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    Default Chinese law: property bought before marriage goes to owner upon divorce

    Here's the article. My dream is that eventually the state will not acknowledge the institution of marriage due to it's culturally charged nature (and many other reasons). However I see this as a step in the right direction to making the contract far less fraudulent. Now people will have to be more responsible and honest about dealing with property before and during marriage.

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    Default Re: Chinese law: property bought before marriage goes to owner upon divorce

    This would be blatant discrimination on the basis of sex, except the thing is- it's not. it's the complete opposite, it specifies no gender preference.

    In fact, to attempt to refute this, would be, in essence, sexism- because it would be declaration that women are inherently meant to be dependent on their partner. If the past 120 years have shown us anything, is that that notion is total garbage and that both genders are equally capable of production.

    Marriage should be a commitment of love, not one of materialism. (ie, 'how much can I extort out of this person using affection?")
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    Default Re: Chinese law: property bought before marriage goes to owner upon divorce

    I don't see an issue with this. Especially when you hear all those stories about one side cleaning out the other. Thing is though it wont pass in the states.

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    Default Re: Chinese law: property bought before marriage goes to owner upon divorce

    So... if you get married in China, as far as the house goes you don't need a pre-nup?


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    Default Re: Chinese law: property bought before marriage goes to owner upon divorce

    I like this! It's a good way to keep those who marry solely for materialistic gain in check.

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    Default Re: Chinese law: property bought before marriage goes to owner upon divorce

    Makes sense. The American style divorce rights seem to date back to old housewiven days.



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    Default Re: Chinese law: property bought before marriage goes to owner upon divorce

    Quote Originally Posted by OminousCloud View Post
    So... if you get married in China, as far as the house goes you don't need a pre-nup?
    Well, I believe it applied to all property gained before marriage, whereas property acquired during marriage is up for grabs.

    The reason why the article emphasizes housing is because housing is as expensive in China, and parents generally help the son get the house and while the daughter is expected to get a house from marriage. Before this law, there were many cases where a woman would marry and divorce a man to essentially take his house, and I suspect that might have inspired this law.
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    Default Re: Chinese law: property bought before marriage goes to owner upon divorce

    What's so controversial about that? That it's made in China, those commie people? It just has a pre-nuptial contract included in the same price package. Saves you the trouble, money and nagging from that hussy you're going to marry.



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    Default Re: Chinese law: property bought before marriage goes to owner upon divorce


    Here in Sweden if you own example a house before you are getting in a relationship the house is still yours after you two break up / divorce. But if you buy for example an house with the intention that you two will live there together - even if one is paying for it - you both own 50 procent of it. Of course you can always write a pre-nup together if you want to change those things, but without the "contract" that is how it goes.

    I like the system.



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    What's so controversial about that? That it's made in China, those commie people? .
    So everyone is a communist in China? haha...
    Why am I not surprised that you are probably an american writing that?
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    Default Re: Chinese law: property bought before marriage goes to owner upon divorce

    @SuXrys You're not some snooty French guy are you? That said they are a communist society so technically everyone in China is a communist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    @SuXrys You're not some snooty French guy are you?

    Hahaha no I am not ;D

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    Default Re: Chinese law: property bought before marriage goes to owner upon divorce

    I must point out that China is a socialist society ruled by the Communist party.
    Socialism isn't quite communism, although they are similar and related.

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    Default Re: Chinese law: property bought before marriage goes to owner upon divorce

    That's great, we should have that law in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    That said they are a communist society so technically everyone in China is a communist.
    not true.

    When regimes have imposed forced religions, everyone had to conform to avoid prosecution, but that didn't mean that they actually believed what they were forced to. Same goes for economic theories and what have you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ericgamer1 View Post
    not true.

    When regimes have imposed forced religions, everyone had to conform to avoid prosecution, but that didn't mean that they actually believed what they were forced to. Same goes for economic theories and what have you.
    You could get into semantics but as long as they don't do anything they don't hold claim to call themselves otherwise.

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    Comparing Socialism to Communism is like me comparing Conservatism to Fascism, the only difference is that America is Right wing so so the majority of the world who are left wingers feel guilty about identifying themselves as Socialist while people like Rick Perry who is so thick it makes you want to cry run for president.
    Sorry to all the Americans who vote Liberal or identify themselves as (Gasp!!) Left Wingers.

    On Topic: Good on them!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by -GAZKUL- View Post
    Comparing Socialism to Communism is like me comparing Conservatism to Fascism, the only difference is that America is Right wing so so the majority of the world who are left wingers feel guilty about identifying themselves as Socialist while people like Rick Perry who is so thick it makes you want to cry run for president.
    Sorry to all the Americans who vote Liberal or identify themselves as (Gasp!!) Left Wingers.

    On Topic: Good on them!!!!

    What? Why do you think that the ones who are socialist feels "guilty" about it?
    America is extremly to the right, even a "right" politican here seems so be "to the left" according to them, but trust me, no one and
    then I mean no one feels guilty about their politican choices. And I have been in various countries and meet people from various cultures.
    I don't even know why you the slightest thinks something like that? Or is it me who didn't understood your post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by -GAZKUL- View Post
    Comparing Socialism to Communism is like me comparing Conservatism to Fascism
    And comparing Communism to Fascism is any better? All I was saying is that there are some similarities between Socialism and Communism. I wasn't even trying to make anyone feel guilty about anything. Heck, I think the Americans sound so stupid and ignorant every time when they "accuse" Obama of being a Socialist as though it's a catastrophic concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -GAZKUL- View Post
    Comparing Socialism to Communism is like me comparing Conservatism to Fascism,
    I don't see where the error was made. animeyay pointed out that the two are not the same, but have similarities in that they are both left-wing ideals.

    the only difference is that America is Right wing so so the majority of the world who are left wingers feel guilty about identifying themselves as Socialist while people like Rick Perry who is so thick it makes you want to cry run for president.
    Sorry to all the Americans who vote Liberal or identify themselves as (Gasp!!) Left Wingers.
    I live in the US, and I'm a socialist; I don't have much of an issue identifying as such.
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    Default Re: Chinese law: property bought before marriage goes to owner upon divorce

    Quote Originally Posted by SuXrys View Post
    So everyone is a communist in China? haha...
    Why am I not surprised that you are probably an american writing that?
    I'm just beating dead horses; Americans now envy the communist states because they turned out more developed than they are, but back in the 90's, oh boy, they used to believe commies would invade they households and eat their children or something!



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    Default Re: Chinese law: property bought before marriage goes to owner upon divorce

    It would be nice if they made that into law in the US. Though, somehow I still think the women marrying to rob their partner of everything would still find a way to get away with it.
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    Default Re: Chinese law: property bought before marriage goes to owner upon divorce

    Ok, let's clear things up regarding socialism and communism and politics in general. Any political ideology will have an opinion on two areas: Economic policy (the size of the government and it's assets), and social policy (e.g. rules about how people can behave, what their morality should be and what religion they should practice).

    Communism wants a large government, and a lot of rules about what people can do.
    Socialism wants a large government, and few rules about what people can do.

    American conservatism wants a tiny government and many of rules about what people can do.
    American liberalism wants a small government, and relatively few rules about what people can do.



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    Default Re: Chinese law: property bought before marriage goes to owner upon divorce

    Quote Originally Posted by lil' McDoom View Post
    I'm just beating dead horses; Americans now envy the communist states because they turned out more developed than they are, but back in the 90's, oh boy, they used to believe commies would invade they households and eat their children or something!
    Well I have heard that USA always have thought that everyone else is a communist (european joke) but I didn't think that it was that bad. höhöhööh oh boy, oh boy, oh boy

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