I do that everywhere. Its not exactly some big revelation that you're feeding the people here. lol
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i'm a boss.
I can teach wherever and whenever i want lol :P
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I do that everywhere. Its not exactly some big revelation that you're feeding the people here. lol
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i'm a boss.
I can teach wherever and whenever i want lol :P
Hmmm... Been a whileSit back some time and simply ask yourself, [Link]->"Do you even lift, bro?"<-[Link]
Whatever you say, sensei. Show me the way of the breast. ~_^
America is far from liberal..... we have extreme opinions on personal freedoms, while most aren't illegal, with the exception of gay marriage, they are harshly judged by the mass, perhaps it is because I live in the south, and in the center of the bible belt of America , but we are extremely conservative. America is capitalist, we expect to be paid for what ever we produce, you make a shoe, you get paid for that shoe. You make a school for higher education ( college) you expect to get paid for people attending that college. America pays for its citizens education up to 12th grade, and if you are low income, helps you pay for some of your college in the form of grants or loans.
Honestly Americans want their cake and eat it too.... They want health care, and education like the Common Wealth countries but don't want to pay the extra taxes that go into it. They also do not want America being socialist , despite the fact that things like our Military and Police forces are funded by socialistic means. Lots people feel we should pay our own way not relay on the wealth and taxes of others. That's why so many people are against Obama, they want people to work hard for what they have, instead of relying on the higher taxes of the wealthy. Plus no one is really a fan of his bail out, and how much he's spent in his 4 year term.
As far as you not dependent on the European Union, ....yeah you are. Texas discusses whether to pull away from North America every year, but do they ever do it? Hell no.
To do it would be foolish and have severe economic repercussions for both you , and for Texas.
Way of the breast, huh? "Jiggle, Jiggle, Jiggle everywhere!" ;P
Anyhow, back to the topic of the military, and not the economy, rudeness, or people getting their feelings hurt or whatever.... (Yea, I basically just skimmed it after realizing it had little to nothing about the military at about right after my last post on military spending.)
your my giant taco and all but to be honest i think its aggressive, sad, but you have no choice.......................
IDK
i always feel iike somebodys watching me
Better then the Marines //5
Honestly I could care less. But I don't think any country can live nowadays without military.
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The person that you are now is not the person that I used to know. You're becoming a stranger that I've never met before. Not liking the change though.
I was in it for the President's Own. Because you know, band nerds gonna nerd.
On-topic, can someone explain to me what the deal is with being pro-Army but against Marines/Navy, etc. I really don't get it. For example, my brother-in-law supports the Air Force to death since his parents served in it, but he was really disappointed when he heard about my sister and I going for the Navy and Marines, respectively, and he wouldn't stop trying to convince us to switch. Imo, if you support one branch of your country's military, why not support em all?
I respect what the marines do, just as much as any other branch of service. However, I have meet many marines, being a marine spouse and I don't think I've ever meet one marine, who wasn't a completely conceited douchbags who thought he was God's gift to the world. I respect their profession, but I do not approve of their general attitude.
Well as an Military brat, one tends to affiliate themselves with their parents branch. Granted, my parents were both Army; and they told me and my brother that we had 2 choices if we joined the military, Air Force or Navy. I still hold the Army is a higher regard then the Marines because both my parents were Army. Then again, to be fair to your brother-in-law, the Air Force (and Navy) treats their people much better than the Army and the Marines.
Honestly though, I'm happy y'all even attempted to join a branch, and wish/hope that y'all don't pick or get slotted into some bullcrap job that may get you killed (by someone else) more than anything else. At least try to go for a job that has an career outside of the military. That way you learn a skill/craft/trade, and should you get out by separation or by retirement there's somewhere you can go a work. Take my job and Flem's (from Sons of Guns) job. I was an aircraft electrical and environmental specialist, I got out over a year ago and in that time I got my disability for hearing, a FAA Airframe and Powerplant license, and started on my college. I'm still looking for work, but there's plenty of work out there, just not in my local area. Flem was an aerial gunner on helicopters. He got out and eventually was able to get a job with Red Jacket Firearms (the company that Sons of Guns follows), but it wasn't he aerial gunner career that brought him there. He learned to wield, and starting working on guns by himself. Even in the show when he interviews for the job, it was the MG42 (I think the name of the gun was) that he had assembled and made working plus his wielding skills landed him the job. Not his military career path.
So please, if you do join and make it in, try to choose something that has potential outside of the military and not something that's just fun to do.
Regarding the OP. You were totally trolling the poor vegans. Who knows if some of those people even had an issue with the US armed forces prior to being filled with a burning desire to flame you, and seeing little else to target in your profile.
Anyway I think individuals in the military are still people and can be good or bad. But I give them an extra dose of respect since many seem motivated by patriotism and they end up doing a dangerous job in often greatly inconvenient conditions. Even those not on the front lines, like the Navy, are put to great inconvenience just for having to be on a ship for so long.
Though I tend to respect Marines from a safe distance away, especially if alcohol is about.
I think the term blowback, while sometimes appropriate, gets greatly overused. And in any case the cold war was real, and whatever the source dealing with "blowback" can still be neccessary.
Also while it would be hard to prove, I think the world is as relatively war free as it is compared to the rest of the recorded history of mankind in no small part due to other countries knowing America would get involved if they decided to invade somebody.
As noted the spending difference as a percentage of GDP isn't that greatly different. But most countries do spend a fair bit less as a percentage of GDP on their militaries. In part I can understand kicking back and letting the superpower do everything. You know if anybody messed with your nation that the US would have your back.
However I think military weakness on the part of other western countries is quite unfortunate. I think a strong UN backed by a bunch of nations capable of working together to achieve various ends would make for better outcomes in diplomacy to avoid conflicts and in any conflicts that diplomacy wasn't able to resolve than the current policy of having everything come down to Team America: World Police.
That also tempts us our politicans to abuse our military power.
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First of all, thanks for serving our country, Kaleohano and the others here.
I know many in the military, very few of them are 'jar heads' or worse derogatory terms that have been thrown around here. I can think of many many times more people I know not in the military that have FAR FAR WORSE personalities and such. And sadly some these folks are the ones writing laws and governing our country. And most military folk I know have benefited greatly from their experience. Some of our best employees I work with are also military... dependable, on time, well organized, intelligent, respectful, driven folks that are leaps and bounds ahead of everyone else. Whether its younger folks I know currently serving, or a couple of the older folks I grew up with that were my dads friends even fought in the Pacific in WW2. Those older fellas were like grandpas to me back then, took us out hunting and fishing, taught me things like carpentry and how to run a chainsaw, etc. Always teaching a good life lesson or telling stories about the old days, but hardly ever saying anything about the war.
Anyhow, just realize the military isnt all about war. Its also about giving aid when needed. And technology. Don't forget a lot of inventions came about through the military. Even everyday usefull things like the microwave oven. And what puts most things in space is military or designed from military designs. All the way back to the Atlas m̶i̶s̶s̶i̶l̶e̶ Rocket that put the first American in space, and the Titan Rockets that comprised the Gemini missions, launched the Voyager spacecrafts as well as most all of our current launches of satellites and things. Just think of how much of science and technology and knowledge of the universe today is from in part the military. Would we ever have explored the solar system without it? Maybe, but probably not for a long time. There were a lot of non-military launch vehicles attempted, but they pretty much all failed miserably.
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~ Tristan
I do not agree with this statement. Though Europe is really convenient, Europe benefits more from us than we benefit from them at the moment. Don't understand me wrong, we are not a super strong independent super country, we are really dependent, but not from Europe. We actually greatly depend on Germany, but our relationship won't change whether we're member of the EU or not.
Ok sorry I'm going off-topic again.
Ah but the thing is the europe zone was a good idea in just that as an idea, true it helps people move freely but what the world needs is more competition in currency exchange rates in order for things to bounce around and find the cheaper market and make things more competitve. Hence why Britain has faired better during this economic depression we have kept our original currency and so therefore we are not in such a bad way in things.
But yeah thats not what this topic is all about
I think that the British Military is doing the right sort of thing in that it does what it needs to do and nothing else unlike the USA (sorry for those who reside in the USA) which promotes itself as the only force out there who can get the job done and behaves like a wannabe super hero. I've seen the american army recruitment adverts and thats the impression I get from it.
I agree with Ryu. Having this mindset will only lower your expectations of everyone whom you discover is either a Marine recruit or veteran. You'll automatically assume that they're a jarhead douche, and most of the time people do very little in trying to change their perspective. It's rather unfair, seeing as how there are arrogant soldiers in every branch, not just one. Granted I think the hype about "omg being a Marine" is what causes a bit more of the recruits to become conceited like how you describe. However some of the most respectful people I've met were involved with the Marines, so saying that you dislike their "general attitude" is a very broad and misleading statement. From what I've noticed, there are people who don't even bring up their history with the military unless you explicitly ask them. It's mostly the people that blurt it out to every passerby that "omg I'm a Marine!" that are the obvious jackasses. The humble ones commonly go unnoticed, sadly.
My father was in the Army and my older brothers in the Marines, and although they can be very strict and harsh when it comes to responsibilities and discipline, they are generally very respectful and kind. Therefore I automatically respect any and all military personnel unless they I see them being disrespectful to myself, my country, or themselves. So long as they don't disgrace their uniform, I really couldn't care less what branch they're from.
"Not even fit to share the battlefield with me."
Yea, don't bother with that crap. The recruiters are so full of crap their eyes are brown. If you want the truth about the military, you've gotta get it from all perspectives. Those in different branches, different jobs (MOS/AFSC), and rank structure (Officer, Warrant Officer, Enlisted) will always have a different side to everything, especially depending on how they feel the military's treated them. It reminds me of an old Hey, Shipwrecked! eps. about the differences of a young, semi-new enlisted guy and an enlisted guy that's been around for a little longer that's also disgruntaled (All beening explained from a "lifer" *person who's been in the military enough to decent to go for retirement after 20 years*).
All in all, it's all about who you ask and in you decide to found out on your own by joining. Eventhough a lot of us military and prior military can related, no two experiences are the same.
theres always individuals that break off from the norm. But i can tell you from experience of dealing with a lot of marines that they generally have a very cocky attitude (you think i'm cocky? you should meet some of these people i've had to deal with) because they're "the first ones in." Not saying that they're all douche bags. Some of my closest friends are marines. But in a very general sense, out of the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines, the Marines have the worst attitude. Maybe its just cuz they hate having to admit that they're not their own branch of the military yet :P
Hmmm... Been a whileSit back some time and simply ask yourself, [Link]->"Do you even lift, bro?"<-[Link]
lol Marine attitudes.... Granted there are from great Marines out there, but they get their "we're the best" mentality from that whole "The Few, the Proud" crap and the crap they endure during Basic. It's like my brother always says, "The only good Marine is a Submarine." ;P Granted, the guys in the Navy hate submariners pretty badly too. I stick to telling them I only deal with full military departments, not departments within a department. Also I say all their crap is owned by the Navy, and that "Marines" stand for "My (butt) Rides In Navy Equipment Sir".
To the above posts regarding "Marine" mentality. We have the hardest basic training then any other branch. Then we go back for MCT, SOI, or ITB. These guys aren't even our special forces but grunts. Marine Corp Scout Snipers are considered the BEST snipers in the world. Then we have Force Recon, FAST Co, DAP, MEU, SRT, and MARSOC. The newest addition to our SpecOps team to compete with Delta Force and Seals.. Rangers are on par with out Force Recon units.. Yet we are the smallest branch of Military and kick the most donkey. As far as the Navy the only units that do any work would be EoD and the Seals. The Chair Force is sad and for the Army.. Well they mop up our dirty work.. I say this with the utmost respect for every branch though. We all have our duties and obligations, which make up the baddest fighting force in the world. We have cocky attitudes because of what we do, we have to keep a sharp head, you don't us going out there thinking we're trash and can't do crap right.
Semper Fi!
You're not a branch of the military in any way, shape, or form. You're a Corps (a small part of the Navy). Like I said, you guys all hate that fact. You are the first Marine i've seen that didn't mention the Navy Corpsman. Most of you guys rightfully respect them. Don't forget who saves your a$$ when you get all shot up cuz you have convinced yourself that you're invincible. You are not the best snipers, that title sadly belongs to the russians. And as far as you needing the attitudes to get your job done, thats a pathetic excuse. SEALS are a hell of a lot more hardcore than any of you guys and they do not brag about what they do. When they retire, most won't even mention the they were ex SEALs, let alone talk about any the things they've done whether classified or not. So no, you do not NEED to act all cocky. Stop making excuses.
Hmmm... Been a whileSit back some time and simply ask yourself, [Link]->"Do you even lift, bro?"<-[Link]
That may be true, but how can you explain the majority of the Marines that aren't Snipers, Force Recon, Fast Co., DAP, MEU, SRT, MARSOC or EoD having a "I'm god's gift to the U.S. Military" attitude? As far the Navy, I'd like to see you tell a submariner he doesn't do any "work". Also the Scorpion teams are pretty badass too. As for the Army, well I ain't got much to say... They're kinda pathetic now and days. Hell, even the Air Force doesn't have a "Stress Card" for Basic, and we're the lazy weak guys. Also, I'd like to see you tell a USAF Combat Controller, TPAC, and/or a ParaRescuer that they're sad, lazy, and/or weak. Also. Next time you think about the "Chair Force" being pathetic, I hope you'll think about any and all flights to and from Afghanistan and/or Iraq that you've had. Because My work allowed your plane to fly safely, provided your ammo, food, and supplies to arrive on time, got your AH-1 Cobra's and UH-1 Huey's to get to their deployed location intact, and made sure you and your buddies when wounded or dead got return home without any hiccups.
So when you see this or this
I hope you think of me and enjoy my hard work keeping your butt alive during the flight.
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