Quality of anime decreasing?

[blueangel06661]

Is it?

I've decided to watch a few new "animes" that came out this year. I use the term anime very lightly to describe these.

So the two I tried to watch came out this year. They were adaptations of pre-existing mangas. However both ended up being about a minute and a half long per episode. Little animation, just basically colored managa stills with a camera pan. Two..Separate..Shows.. Did.. This..

I gave up after 2 episodes...

What kind of a trend is this? It's not a good trend at all.

[Anime Forum]

Is it?

I've decided to watch a few new "animes" that came out this year. I use the term anime very lightly to describe these.

So the two I tried to watch came out this year. They were adaptations of pre-existing mangas. However both ended up being about a minute and a half long per episode. Little animation, just basically colored managa stills with a camera pan. Two..Separate..Shows.. Did.. This..

I gave up after 2 episodes...

What kind of a trend is this? It's not a good trend at all.

What anime were they? Also, short anime is nothing new.

< In b4 Matas saids new anime are horrible.

[blueangel06661]

Romantica Clock and Sugar Solid...

I do not like this "short anime" At least give me 12 episodes of 24mins if it isn't a webcast >.>

[Anime Forum]

Romantica Clock and Sugar Solid...

I do not like this "short anime" At least give me 12 episodes of 24mins if it isn't a webcast >.>

I decided to look up "Sugar Solid" on MaL. I guess they don't consider manga being colored in and being poorly animated scenes actual anime. I remember crunchyroll had a couple of those and they were in the same boat.

Yeah. Short anime are typically low quality, but a couple good ones are:

- Detroit Metal City (2008)
- Tonari no seki kun (2014)

[Inactive_Account]

As Shinobu predicted, I think the quality of writing in anime has been getting worse and worse over the years. Though that isn't to say we don't get good or great anime nowadays just that they're much less frequent and theres much more trash coming out.

I don't think you can really judge that based on short 5 min per episode shows though.

[Anime Forum]

As Shinobu predicted, I think the quality of writing in anime has been getting worse and worse over the years. Though that isn't to say we don't get good or great anime nowadays just that they're much less frequent and theres much more trash coming out.

I don't think you can really judge that based on short 5 min per episode shows though.

IMO you can still judge the quality of writing in short anime. Like, Aiura is miles above Ai mai mi.

[Mystelinth]

Hmh, hmh. Aiura is good.

[Ominous Flare]

I think it's a trend that's pretty much present in many modern works of 'art' (if you could still call it 'art' nowadays and not be labeled a "hipster"). Movies, anime, TV shows, etc. Probably just my nostalgia talking but, I don't know, I've felt the same declining quality in anime for a long time too.

Though that does have a flip-side to it; the few gems that do come out are all the more shinier because of the general lack of quality. I.E.: Fate/Zero, HxH Reboot, JoJo Reboot. Wait... all three of those are 'reboots' in one way or another... Hmmm...

[Anime Forum]

I think it's a trend that's pretty much present in many modern works of 'art' (if you could still call it 'art' nowadays and not be labeled a "hipster"). Movies, anime, TV shows, etc. Probably just my nostalgia talking but, I don't know, I've felt the same declining quality in anime for a long time too.

Though that does have a flip-side to it; the few gems that do come out are all the more shinier because of the general lack of quality. I.E.: Fate/Zero, HxH Reboot, JoJo Reboot. Wait... all three of those are 'reboots' in one way or another... Hmmm...

What year do you guys think the quality of anime went down actually? Sure, we do get some generic anime coming in nowadays, but its been like this even when you guys seem to think the quality wasn't as bad.

I personally don't think quality in anime is as big an issue as some make it out to be. Nostalgia and Elitistism(Matas) really can ruin ones vision in anime.

How many anime have you guys seen? I'm friends with multiple people who have seen 2,000+ and they still feel the quality in anime is perfectly fine.

[ParaParaJMo]

I have been a long time reader of the Hajime no Ippo manga and I hated how the new season cut out so much stuff.

I have also been a long time reader of the Jojo's Bizarre Adventure manga as well and my friends tell me there is so much censorship in the new anime of the Stardust Crusaders arc.

Did anime lose its balls or something?

[Anime Forum]

I have been a long time reader of the Hajime no Ippo manga and I hated how the new season cut out so much stuff.

I have also been a long time reader of the Jojo's Bizarre Adventure manga as well and my friends tell me there is so much censorship in the new anime of the Stardust Crusaders arc.

Did anime lose its balls or something?

Here's something worth talking about. I do agree, I heard the new JoJo does censor quite a few things in Stardust Crusaders. Pity.

Though, wouldn't the Blu-Ray release uncensor that like any other anime?

[Mystelinth]

Decreasing.. hmhh, depends from what point of view. I know people who enjoy generic harem anime only and they're having a complete blast.

Personally i don't have any problem with the anime coming out lately, there are always atleast 4 animes or so each season that pique my interest. And i'm content with that number.

[Яequiem]

I stopped watching anime back in the mid 2000's and just started watching again about 6 months ago and everything new I've seen so far has been really good. Maybe you just need a break from it for awhile? It's not entirely impossible that when you've watched so much it starts to kind of bleed together and everything feels a bit daft?

[Ominous Flare]

What year do you guys think the quality of anime went down actually? Sure, we do get some generic anime coming in nowadays, but its been like this even when you guys seem to think the quality wasn't as bad.

I personally don't think quality in anime is as big an issue as some make it out to be. Nostalgia and Elitistism(Matas) really can ruin ones vision in anime.

How many anime have you guys seen? I'm friends with multiple people who have seen 2,000+ and they still feel the quality in anime is perfectly fine.

I'm not sure what year but, I'm pretty sure I prefer the classics to the modern day stuff. This is just my personal opinion, to be honest, but yeah, back then we had very memorable stuff coming out that could last forever; Cowboy Bebop, FMA, Ghost in the Shell, Evangelion, Naruto, One Piece, etc, etc. So I guess the year that dropped for me would be around 1996 when GitS came out to maybe the early 2000s (FMA: Brotherhood and GitS: SAC).

Again, not really so-called 'elitism', more like my personal perspective on things... I mean, anime today feels more like 'meh' to me. Not as fresh as those examples I listed.

[Yung A$$eroya]

Not necessarily/maybe

No and yes. The quality of the newer anime might be better these days, some have really good animation, it's just that their plots, character-designs, ART-STYLE OH MY GOD and all that are so unappealing-- it's like they've given up on that part.

[Anime Forum]

Not necessarily/maybe

No and yes. The quality of the newer anime might be better these days, some have really good animation, it's just that their plots, character-designs, ART-STYLE OH MY GOD and all that are so unappealing-- it's like they've given up on that part.

Did you just say they've given up on character designs? If anything, that is one thing about anime that has gotten stronger.

Plot depends on the anime. Not all are bad.

Art style. Not even sure why you bring an opinion into this. Some people like the older style while some like the new.

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I'm not sure what year but, I'm pretty sure I prefer the classics to the modern day stuff. This is just my personal opinion, to be honest, but yeah, back then we had very memorable stuff coming out that could last forever; Cowboy Bebop, FMA, Ghost in the Shell, Evangelion, Naruto, One Piece, etc, etc. So I guess the year that dropped for me would be around 1996 when GitS came out to maybe the early 2000s (FMA: Brotherhood and GitS: SAC).

Again, not really so-called 'elitism', more like my personal perspective on things... I mean, anime today feels more like 'meh' to me. Not as fresh as those examples I listed.

FMA Brotherhood wasn't early 2000s.

Anyways, your opinion is fine. I could think of numerous titles to counter the ones you listed, but that enters a debate I'm not looking for. My point is anime is nowhere going that down in quality. If anything, early 2000s is not so much different from now.

[Yung A$$eroya]

Did you just say they've given up on character designs? If anything, that is one thing about anime that has gotten stronger.

Plot depends on the anime. Not all are bad.

Art style. Not even sure why you bring an opinion into this. Some people like the older style while some like the new

Excuse you

 

[Ominous Flare]

Anyways, your opinion is fine. I could think of numerous titles to counter the ones you listed, but that enters a debate I'm not looking for.

Yeah, I hate debates, to be honest, or any form of competition whatsoever.

But let's just say it's for the sake of a healthy and non-violent discussion... what would those 'numerous titles' be, specifically? I'm just kinda interested to know what you would consider as equal heavy contenders. I might even add them to the 'Plan to Watch' section of my anime list.

[Anime Forum]

Excuse you

 

I don't get it. Lol, explain :P

[Yung A$$eroya]

I don't get it. Lol, explain :P

Okay, I'm just saying that I don't like newer anime (with a tiny few exceptions), hah. I don't really have any arguments that aren't opinionated (eh), or rather, I don't have any arguments that aren't heavily opinionated (better).

[Anime Forum]

Yeah, I hate debates, to be honest, or any form of competition whatsoever.

But let's just say it's for the sake of a healthy and non-violent discussion... what would those 'numerous titles' be, specifically? I'm just kinda interested to know what you would consider as equal heavy contenders. I might even add them to the 'Plan to Watch' section of my anime list.

Sure. I'll keep the anime I'll list 2007+.

1) Aria the Origination. You need to watch the first couple series, but its damn good.
2) Madoka Magica.
3) Steins Gate.
4) Attack on Titan.
5) Clannad.
6) Gosick.
7) Death Note (Maybe 2006).
8) Nichijou
9) Angel Beats
10) Gintama
11) Shinsekai Yori

There are more, but those are all good.

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Okay, I'm just saying that I don't like newer anime (with a tiny few exceptions), hah. I don't really have any arguments that aren't opinionated (eh), or rather, I don't have any arguments that aren't heavily opinionated (better).

Oh, that's fine. I'm not looking to derail your opinion or anything, just bringing opinion into the mix and trying to confirm writers gave up because of the reasons is wrong. All is good though!

[Ominous Flare]

1) Aria the Origination. You need to watch the first couple series, but its damn good.
2) Madoka Magica.
3) Steins Gate.
4) Attack on Titan.
5) Clannad.
6) Gosick.
7) Death Note (Maybe 2006).
8) Nichijou
9) Angel Beats
10) Gintama
11) Shinsekai Yori

There are more, but those are all good.

lol Ironically, I've watched more than half of the anime in that list... can't believe I forgot about them.

Yeah, you're right. Those are pretty big-time titles alright, especially Death Note and MADOKA MAGICA (HELL YEAH)! Sayaka FTW! Ahem, sorry, Madoka fanboyism cooled down now.

The only anime on that list that I haven't completed are Gosick and Aria. Gosick because... well, I found the story to be quite flat, but I probably missed something after I dropped it mid-series. Heard so many good things about Aria, though, so I might try and pick up from where I left off in the future (which is Season 1 of the series).

[Anime Forum]

lol Ironically, I've watched more than half of the anime in that list... can't believe I forgot about them.

Yeah, you're right. Those are pretty big-time titles alright, especially Death Note and MADOKA MAGICA (HELL YEAH)! Sayaka FTW! Ahem, sorry, Madoka fanboyism cooled down now.

The only anime on that list that I haven't completed are Gosick and Aria. Gosick because... well, I found the story to be quite flat, but I probably missed something after I dropped it mid-series. Heard so many good things about Aria, though, so I might try and pick up from where I left off in the future (which is Season 1 of the series).

Here's a few more:

12) Bakemonogatari
13) Kill La Kill
14) Fate Zero

Np!

[Inactive_Account]

I don't think there's really an exact year where it just dopped off a cliff but more like it's been steadily getting worse over the years and because of that it's been more noticable as of late when compared to the golden years. I don't really think any of the newer anime mentioned in this thread match up well against the 'classics' of old at all, they're definitely on a lower level imo, not to say that they're bad necessarily (well there are some bad ones imo but that's not the point) just that I don't think they're at or close to the same level of quality. That isn't to say that there aren't some great gems as of recent, hell my favorite anime is from 2010, just that I think that the amount of quality older works outclass and outnumber the recent ones. There's also a lot more anime being made now than back then and the majority of the extra is garbage so the ratio of good to bad is horrendously skewed.

[Ominous Flare]

Still, you gotta give it to Yoko and his list. Most of those quality anime in that list were made over the last ten years. That's really something compared to a handful of classics made over the past 30-40 years.

Adding on to his list, there's also...

- Samurai Champloo
- Eureka Seven
- Mobile Suit Gundam 00 and MSG SEED
- Paranoia Agent, Paprika; pretty much anything made by Satoshi Kon
- Tiger and Bunny
- Gurren Lagann (mixed reviews, but still quite a solid entertainment; also more memorable than the recently released Kill la Kill)
- Claymore
- The Disappearance of Suzumiya Haruhi (easily topping any of the previous instalments)
- Hajime no Ippo
- Clannad After Story
- Spirited Away
- Mushishi
- Monster
- Hunter x Hunter reboot
- Jojo's Bizarre Adventure reboot
- Hellsing Ultimate
- Baccano
- The Girl Who Leapt Through Time

etc, etc.