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    Default Music Snobbery

    Who here is a music snob? I've been exposed to so much music snobbery in my life, that I simply don't tell people what music I like anymore. When they ask, I always give a non-answer. Perhaps this is just me.
    Can musical taste be used to determine character?

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    Default Re: Music Snobbery

    Hell yeah. I'm a hip hop snob to the max. Oh, you listen to Gucci Mane, dawg? Can't kick it with me, go back to the cats with the gold chains and the 4XL white tees.

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    Default Re: Music Snobbery

    I get tired of explaining what black and death metal are. I find that people tend to judge you negatively around this town if they find out you like anything other than classic rock, christian, or country.

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    Default Re: Music Snobbery

    Not really a music snob. I like to get different kinds of music, so I'm more of a music hoarder/collector.
    I tell everyone I listen to all kinds, I don't snub certain genres but I like some more than others. I don't think music taste can determine character, to an extent yes, but not completely. People who like melodic death metal aren't Satanists and not all hardcore punk listeners have hate problems.


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    Default Re: Music Snobbery

    I do know that your musical taste also tells something about your taste in fashion and probably something about your attitude to life too. But I haven't run into a situation where one would be looked down upon simply because of his/her taste. I wouldn't hide my taste. (which is very wide by the way, everything from ani-songs to electronic and even metal. just no pop or rap)
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    Default Re: Music Snobbery

    I'm a complete music snob. But I don't hate on genre's just bands from genre's.



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    Default Re: Music Snobbery

    I am so musically apathetic I think it's impossible for me to be a snob about it.
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    Default Re: Music Snobbery

    I'm not really snobbish about my music taste, but I generally hate pop, hip-hop, R&B, raggae and some other genres. I like rock/metal, but I hate (what I think of as) "mainstream garbage" (and sorry about it) -- my taste leans towards the more "epic" sub-genres (not as in "awesome"; literally EPIC), like some progressive rock/metal. I do think they're superior, but I respect that people have their tastes and I try to avoid being a snob about it. (I know how stupid, annoying and pointless it is.)

    And for similar reasons, I like doujin music. I don't know how many people here have indulged into this culture, but their music excellence can be somewhat analogous to progressive rock/metal, except they add their unique flavor to it, creating refreshingly different, great music. (inb4 w-word -- No, I'm not.) And I'm also a video game music geek. I have whole collections of music MIDIs and MP3s from games from various platforms, some of which I ripped myself.

    My taste in music can be summed up mostly in two categories: First, I listen to music for the thrills, for the epicness; and second, I listen to it to cheer up, relax and wash myself on the inside. The latter category includes a much wider variety of music, from electronic music (techno/trance/etc.), to anison, to some J-Pop/J-Rock (again, no w-word), to exceptions from any genre I said I don't like, to pretty much anything as long as it "hits" my taste, satisfies my own "quality standards", or just sounds hilarious or amusing (think about some nerdcore).

    I know my music taste can be thought of as strange, but I don't care. Though when I'm asked, depending on the person, I often just respond with "metal and rock", and maybe add "and Japanese music" when there's no need to, as they say on /a/, "keep my power level hidden".
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    Default Re: Music Snobbery

    Same as above, only without the Japanese part.


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    Default Re: Music Snobbery

    The only thing I can't stand is certain hip hop music that talks about getting drugged or sleeping with people, or anything sexual. Its like...what is this?

    I also can't stand certain Hispanic genres, like the "naco" type of music.

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    Default Re: Music Snobbery

    I used to be a real music snob. Particularly around the time I started really getting into classical. I shut my mind off from everything that wasn't classical, jazz, soft rock, and classic rock.

    Of course, now I know that was stupid of me. I no longer understand music snobbery, well actually I do understand it. I just think it is pointless. It is better to keep an open-mind. An closed-mind can make you dislike something that you would have liked otherwise. It's a fact.

    And yes I do think it can be a judge of character. For somebody like how I was back then, it was pretty obvious that I was being dumb and just trying to be "different", for example.

    Really one should not be judged by what they like, they should be judged by what they dislike and why they dislike it. A lot of people are incredibly shallow when it comes to music - well even I still am, but at least I can admit it and am trying to fix it.

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    Default Re: Music Snobbery

    music is a good judge of character but not totally...
    since this kind of taste could be used by someone to fit in...

    and i am not a music snob..
    i do listen and appreciate...
    not just loud music please.. they tend to be noisy that ear hurts...
    though i love Linkin Park...

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    Default Re: Music Snobbery

    Eh, when people ask, I'll just tell them I only listen to The Aquabats(not entirely true), which usually elicits the response "Who are the alphabets?"

    I listen to a lot of video game sountrack stuff, anything with a piano, ska, rock, and not rap. And for some reason, I seem to hate every song that gets popular at school...

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    Default Re: Music Snobbery

    All the Hipsters tell me grunge is dead, I tell them that even the worst grunge beats bands where every band member is on synth...

    Me, I like Grunge, Sludge Metal, Doom Metal and other similar genres most though most rock or metal will suit me. I could never really get into Classical, Country, Western or Hip Hop but don't feel it's in my place to try and dictate what people should listen to.

    If I was I probably would have gone nuts as Hip Hop/RnB/Dance/Club is the fave music of most I know right now.
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    Default Re: Music Snobbery

    Is there something people aren't snobbish about?

    Determining someone's personality just by their musical tastes is about as shallow as judging them for any other one aspect.

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    Default Re: Music Snobbery

    I'm not a music snob, but some of my college friends were. I try to be open to all kinds of music and not hate on other people's music. If it makes me feel good and I enjoy listening to it, that's what's most important to me. So yeah, I like some 'mainstream' music but I also like to discover cool songs on pitchfork or tinymixtapes.com.
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    Default Re: Music Snobbery

    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Moonlight View Post

    Determining someone's personality just by their musical tastes is about as shallow as judging them for any other one aspect.
    That comment's a bit vague. By "any other one aspect" do you mean things like personality as well?
    However, if you mean it's shallow in general, like say judging by looks, I'd have to disagree.
    A person's music taste says a lot about them. The mixtures they like, the things they pay attention to in a song, the reasons they have for liking certain things, all of that is a window into their cognitive reasoning as well as other aspects of their personality. It tells a lot about a person. Of course you have to be logical about it. Saying "Oh you listen to hip-hop, you must be an idiot" is ridiculous. Stereotypes in general are wrong. However, using things such a musical tastes to better understand people and determine your compatibility is different.

    That's why, there are certain bands that I immediately know I won't get along with their general fanbase, because the band itself is so repulsive to me. However, if a person can explain to me, in a way I can understand and respect, why they like the band, then we can get along easily. :/

    It's in human nature to judge one another. No one is free of passing judgement no matter how understanding they claim to be. So, it only makes sense that taste in things like music, film, art, and literature should all be used during the process.
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    Default Re: Music Snobbery

    Care to name some of those bands?

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    Default Re: Music Snobbery

    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra Commander View Post
    Care to name some of those bands?
    Bands like:
    Bullet for my Valentine
    All American Rejects
    Staind
    Three Days Grace
    Avenged Sevenfold
    etc.

    I've listened to some of those bands back when I was 13-15, but honestly I don't want to be around people who are like me when I was that young.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wio View Post
    Who here is a music snob? I've been exposed to so much music snobbery in my life, that I simply don't tell people what music I like anymore. When they ask, I always give a non-answer. Perhaps this is just me.
    Can musical taste be used to determine character?
    I wouldn't say I'm a music snob, but I assume I come across as one.

    When people ask me what I listen to, I always pull a "stuff" or "eh...you probably wouldn't know them"...not to be a hipster music snob, but because I hate answering the same questions over and over:
    "You listen to Japanese music?"
    "Yes."
    "Can you understand it?"
    "A bit."
    "Don't they all dress like women and goths?"
    "No."
    Etc.

    I can't count the number of times I've gone through that, so I generally avoid answering such questions.

    In regard to talking about music with other people, I have a bad habit of voicing my dislikes; which I assume comes across as me saying "HURRR! YER TASTE SUCKS! METAL IS BAD! TECHNO IS UN-TISS UN-TISS UN-TISS UN-TISS UN-TISS!", while what I mean is "Well, my fine gentleman and/or madame, I respectfully disagree with your opinion on this subjective matter*."


    And I think that, to a certain extent, music can be a decent predictor of character. If one appreciates music to a great degree, they'll listen to music that has meaning to them. Therein, it is music they can relate to. If they can relate to it and you understand it, you can understand why they might relate to it. It's not a 100% guarantee sort of thing, and it's certainly conditional.



    *Except for visual-kei.
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    I'm not sure, it depends on the people and how they ask me.
    I only tell them I listen to Chinese Pop. After a while, they continue asking me the same questions over and over. Yeah after a while, it gets irritating. But for the sh*ts and giggles, I end up responding to them in Chinese. They end up picking up what I'm saying. I don't tell people unless they ask me, but I hesitate a lot answering them.

    "Chinese Pop? Can you understand it?"
    "Shi de, wo zhidao zhongwen, wo keyi lijie tamen shi zenme shuo de."
    "Alrighty then, I think you do."
    "Its because I can speak the language and I am Chinese." ._.;

    I think its irritating for people to only say that they don't like it because they don't understand it. I think thats why there's some English translation. It may not translate the full song of it or whatever, to get the idea of some of the meaning, appreciate different culture, and the music itself is all good. >_> Plus, English isn't the only language out there so some of those people need to suck it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annie Hall View Post


    Bands like:
    Bullet for my Valentine
    All American Rejects
    Staind
    Three Days Grace
    Avenged Sevenfold
    etc.

    I've listened to some of those bands back when I was 13-15, but honestly I don't want to be around people who are like me when I was that young.
    I see, so you don't get along so well with the mallcore crowd. Can't say I blame you there. As much as I like metal, I have a hard time getting along with fans of Slayer and Metallica. Mostly because Metallica hasn't been good since Justice, Slayer has never been good - some memorable riffage, but Tom's vocals suck hard enough to outweigh it. I like black metal too, but those kids who only want to listen to stuff that's never been published or found anywhere but the back pages of some obscure zine...I hate them too.

    I can make some true kvlt black metal too. I'll scream unintelligibly into a tape recorder, and then bury the only copy of my work in the desert somewhere. It'll be the kvltest crap ever, because no one's ever heard [of] it.

    Oh, and Hatebreed fans [and every other generic tough guy hardcore band out there]. I was at a show where Behemoth was on stage prior to Hatebreed. I left the pit when Hatebreed came on, and went to the bar to sit it out. A guy at the bar acted like he wanted to fight me because I said I didn't like them. I walked off toward the Behemoth merch booth while he was shooting his mouth off, and suddenly he was surrounded by my "people". I got my shirt and other goodies and left.



    Anyway, to answer one of the original questions from the OP, I don't think actual taste in music can help you determine character, bu rather the way the person you're talking to conveys their attitude toward music they don't like. I like what I like and I don't care what other people think of my choices. Some people use their tastes to project elitism, or to attempt to belittle others - think of my kvlt black metal example, they hate anything mainstream, and think people who listen to anything but the same things they listen to are all idiots. Their tastes also change with the winds, and if you still like last week's band, you're also an idiot. The attitude they approach others with is much more telling than their genre picks.
    Last edited by Cobra Commander; 12-06-2010 at 06:51 AM.

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    I would say, depending on the person I'm talking to, yes I am a music snob. I listen to any music that is good, whatever the genre, and while I do voice my distaste for certain music genres, I will listen to them if the specific music is good. What I really hate is people that listen to practically one band/person and that's all, like fans of justin beiber. Most of them listen to nothing but justin beiber and tell you he is better than anything out there, which for me, who has spent years listening to different music styles, the best, the worst, is kind of annoying. I mean, you can listen to him, and like it to, that's your choice. But when you come up to me, tell me he is the best, and then when I ask your reasoning you give vague answers along the lines of "He just is!" "Listen to him and find out" "You're just jealous", it pisses me off just a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annie Hall View Post


    That comment's a bit vague. By "any other one aspect" do you mean things like personality as well?
    However, if you mean it's shallow in general, like say judging by looks, I'd have to disagree.
    A person's music taste says a lot about them. The mixtures they like, the things they pay attention to in a song, the reasons they have for liking certain things, all of that is a window into their cognitive reasoning as well as other aspects of their personality. It tells a lot about a person. Of course you have to be logical about it. Saying "Oh you listen to hip-hop, you must be an idiot" is ridiculous. Stereotypes in general are wrong. However, using things such a musical tastes to better understand people and determine your compatibility is different.

    That's why, there are certain bands that I immediately know I won't get along with their general fanbase, because the band itself is so repulsive to me. However, if a person can explain to me, in a way I can understand and respect, why they like the band, then we can get along easily. :/

    It's in human nature to judge one another. No one is free of passing judgement no matter how understanding they claim to be. So, it only makes sense that taste in things like music, film, art, and literature should all be used during the process.
    I didn't think it was very vague.

    Judging someone solely by their musical tastes is only judging one aspect of them. Such as, their appearance, opinions, religion, so forth.

    I have friends who are into music I don't listen to, but yet we're still friends. Pretty simple enough; if you don't want to get to know someone just because of the music they listen to, that's pretty damn snobbish.

    Oh, and side tip: posting in white makes it really annoying for people using the "blinding white" theme, because I have to highlight your words before I can read them.
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    I guess you could use that phrase to describe my music life. Though it is more of a collection then anything I just like listening to it, don't really make a huge deal about it.
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