THQ: Buying used games is cheating?

[Diocletian]

I couldn't answer that. Would gamers get pissed if they didn't get their latest Call of Duty rip-off game?

[Capernicus]

Hey, the Call of Duty ripoffs are cheaper. Plus, Call of Duty itself is a ripoff. There are no inherently original game ideas anymore.

[RenegadeC4v]

Well jeez, then oh I dunno RENT THE GAME FIRST, SEE IF YOU LIKE IT, AND THEN BUY IT! Is it really that hard? I mean, you may as well be complaining about shelling out $32 for a crappy used game. Have you ever tried to make a fresh, innovative, and engaging game? It's really hard. I mean, if it was so easy they would practically be handing them out on the streets. Stop complaining about buying a crappy game, it's like complaining that McDonald's made you fat. No one made you buy it.

You completely missed the point. Im not talking about myself just buying bad games. My whole point was if buying used games is cheating then making crap games and selling them at full price is cheating too so they (THQ) have no right to be crying when someone tries to save a couple bucks by getting a used game. If they made better games, then you'd have less people trading them in, thus more people who go to gamestop to get the game have to pay full price for a new one because there wont be as many used ones available. If its so hard to make a great game then dont complain when people trade them in and someone else gets in at a cheaper price. Thats the point

[Capernicus]

You completely missed the point. Im not talking about myself just buying bad games. My whole point was if buying used games is cheating then making crap games and selling them at full price is cheating too so they (THQ) have no right to be crying when someone tries to save a couple bucks by getting a used game. If they made better games, then you'd have less people trading them in, thus more people who go to gamestop to get the game have to pay full price for a new one because there wont be as many used ones available. If its so hard to make a great game then dont complain when people trade them in and someone else gets in at a cheaper price. Thats the point

No, the point is that they have EVERY right to complain because buying a used game makes them no money and in fact costs them money since they lose the sale they would have gotten had a used copy not been available. Losing capita means they have less development staff, and thus cannot make the epic games you are so hoping they will produce on a regular basis.

Since you seem incapable of empathy, let's try this. Say you were a painter, or an artist, and you sold your work to person1. Person1 then, deciding that they have no place to put it or it doesn't match their drapes or something, turns around and sells it at a discounted price to person2. Person2 is excited about buying it because they don't have to buy it from you for more money. Thus, you lose that sale. Imagine that going on a GLOBAL scale, and persons 3, 4, 5, all the way to 1000 are now mocking you for making crappy art that isn't worth buying at full price. You are losing tens of thousands of dollars every year because of this. Does that help your little brain grasp what's going on here?

[Hanamaru Kunikida]

No, the point is that they have EVERY right to complain because buying a used game makes them no money and in fact costs them money since they lose the sale they would have gotten had a used copy not been available. Losing capita means they have less development staff, and thus cannot make the epic games you are so hoping they will produce on a regular basis.

Since you seem incapable of empathy, let's try this. Say you were a painter, or an artist, and you sold your work to person1. Person1 then, deciding that they have no place to put it or it doesn't match their drapes or something, turns around and sells it at a discounted price to person2. Person2 is excited about buying it because they don't have to buy it from you for more money. Thus, you lose that sale. Imagine that going on a GLOBAL scale, and persons 3, 4, 5, all the way to 1000 are now mocking you for making crappy art that isn't worth buying at full price. You are losing tens of thousands of dollars every year because of this. Does that help your little brain grasp what's going on here?

Actually, that's a good way to put why people are cheating the developers.

[Capernicus]

I am only trying to make him see why they care little for those buying used games. I am not saying they are right or wrong for being angry (though I personally think they are right).

[RenegadeC4v]

No, the point is that they have EVERY right to complain because buying a used game makes them no money and in fact costs them money since they lose the sale they would have gotten had a used copy not been available. Losing capita means they have less development staff, and thus cannot make the epic games you are so hoping they will produce on a regular basis.

Since you seem incapable of empathy, let's try this. Say you were a painter, or an artist, and you sold your work to person1. Person1 then, deciding that they have no place to put it or it doesn't match their drapes or something, turns around and sells it at a discounted price to person2. Person2 is excited about buying it because they don't have to buy it from you for more money. Thus, you lose that sale. Imagine that going on a GLOBAL scale, and persons 3, 4, 5, all the way to 1000 are now mocking you for making crappy art that isn't worth buying at full price. You are losing tens of thousands of dollars every year because of this. Does that help your little brain grasp what's going on here?

So in other words, you're saying people should be rewarded for incompetence or mediocrity. lol. Either you work for THQ or you're just a complete idiot or perhaps both

[SigmaSD]

So in other words, you're saying people should be rewarded for incompetence or mediocrity. lol. Either you work for THQ or you're just a complete idiot or perhaps both

She means to say that the reason we have soo many crappy games is because supposedly the developers lose money when their used games are bought and that causes less capita earned thus having less resources to make a game. And then a crappy game is born from crappy resources.

[Skylar1]

So in other words, you're saying people should be rewarded for incompetence or mediocrity. lol. Either you work for THQ or you're just a complete idiot or perhaps both

Let's try to cool it with the flames. kk?

[Capernicus]

Nah nah, let him. It's okay because...

[RenegadeC4v]

She means to say that the reason we have soo many crappy games is because supposedly the developers lose money when their used games are bought and that causes less capita earned thus having less resources to make a game. And then a crappy game is born from crappy resources.

Thats like saying people should go pay to see a terrible movie because if we give the producers more money they'll have the resources to maybe make a better movie next time. Sorry but thats not the way things works in the real world. And besides, you dont really need a giant budget to come up with something fun and or innovative so thats just an excuse. I dont really have a problem with there being bad games out there. The only problem I have is this THQ guy getting butthurt because people dont wanna pay full price for their bad games and then calling them cheaters. That just screams hypocrite to me. If they were pumping out great game after game game and this were happening then I would feel for them but clearly thats not the case here

[Capernicus]

Thats like saying people should go pay to see a terrible movie because if we give the producers more money they'll have the resources to maybe make a better movie next time. Sorry but thats not the way things works in the real world.

Actually, by and large, that IS the way the real world works.

And besides, you dont really need a giant budget to come up with something fun and or innovative so thats just an excuse. I dont really have a problem with there being bad games out there. The only problem I have is this THQ guy getting butthurt because people dont wanna pay full price for their bad games and then calling them cheaters. That just screams hypocrite to me. If they were pumping out great game after game game and this were happening then I would feel for them but clearly thats not the case here

Pot calling the kettle black. You're the one getting all butthurt because THQ doesn't want people profiting off their hard work and so are taking steps to discourage people from doing it.

[SigmaSD]

Pot calling the kettle black. You're the one getting all butthurt because THQ doesn't want people profiting off their hard work and so are taking steps to discourage people from doing it.

I agree with this 100 percent. But then again I agree with him on the fact that THQ makes crap games. That's why I don't buy 'em.

[RenegadeC4v]

Actually, by and large, that IS the way my fantasy world works.

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Pot calling the kettle black. You're the one getting all butthurt because THQ expects people to pay full price for bad games when they can get it cheaper

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and so are taking steps to discourage people from doing it.

Yea and im sure its gonna work like a charm

[Capernicus]

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Yea and im sure its gonna work like a charm

You know, the point of that meme is to say some kind of truer statement, not one that your poor teenage mind wishes were actually true rather than what really is. Poor soul. I actually feel bad for you that someday you won't have access to all of the awesome features in a game like the rest of us richer customers.

[SigmaSD]

I actually feel bad for you that someday you won't have access to all of the awesome features in a game like the rest of us richer customers.

Wow, this is entertaining. *sits back and watches*

He will have access to it when he buys it used.

[Capernicus]

Wow, this is entertaining. *sits back and watches*

He will have access to it when he buys it used.

Did you even read the first post that detailed the new features being added to games?

[SigmaSD]

Did you even read the first post that detailed the new features being added to games?

Yeah but MW2 kinda put me off online gaming with their noob tubing and camping and harrier and pavelow.

[Skylar1]

Yeah, I don't really like where this thread is going. Everything to discuss has pretty much already been said.

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