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    Default Harry Potter Fans Deemed Too Heavy for 'Wizarding World' Ride

    http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/movi...orld-ride.html

    Apparently, after the opening of the Wizarding World of Harry Potter theme park last week, some people are finding out that they are too heavy to ride its signature attraction.

    The ride, "Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey" is a dark ride (think of Its A Small World or the Pirates of the Caribbean ride) that allows riders to take a tour of Hogwarts and others parts of the Harry Potter world. The ride utilizes individual restraints to keep riders safe. However, one Harry Potter fan, Jeff Guillaume, found out that he was too big to fit into the restraints properly (at 5'8" and 265 pounds, this does not surprise me). And one other fan, at 6'2" and 310 has decided to lose weight until he was able to fit on the ride (and even beyond that).

    Now, some theme parks apparently have special cars and restraints for heavier people. However, Universal has restricts on height (and on some rides "body dimension") in order to protect the riders. Although, I am surprised that some people honestly expect their "larger-than-normal" girths to fit on some of these theme park rides (it was about 6 years ago when a 230 pound man was flung from his restraints at Six Flags New England).

    What do you guys think? Should Universal make special cars in order to fit their "larger" riders or should these riders not be complaining at all?
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    Universal has no obligation to do anything, nor should they do anything.

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    It'd be nice if they did what other rides have but like Gjall said, they're under no obligation to.

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    Simply put no, because of safety issues. It would just be adding more weight to the car. It's really not a big deal to be denied because you are heavy and cannot fit into the safety restraints properly. [I've had this happen before with my grandpa]

    But if they should make adjustments for the wider [who are more than likely wide because of their choices in life and can do something about it if they desire.. No hate I'm just saying..] Then they should make adjustments for the smaller and taller when it's not up to them how big or little they are vertically.

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    So...let me get this straight....these people decide they need to lose weight now?



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    Brilliant. They should make the restraints even stricter to force more Potheads to lose weight if they want to "take a ride on Harry's broom" or whatever.

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    As a larger person myself, I see it as another 'you win some, you lose some' type scenario.
    I was tall enough to ride any ride when I was ten unlike most of my peers at the time which would have sucked for them. Now if I'm too tall to ride some rides that they've grown into, good for them.
    Of course, some of those great rides of the past aren't available anymore so some of my mates never did get to ride them.

    The future isn't all bad for bigger people though. I can very easily reach the highest shelves in large factory style bulk purchase stores unlike the majority of people who need to either get a staff member with a means of reaching them or ask someone like me for a favour.
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    ahhh the wonders of being able to bask in the bliss of being average in size and weight.

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    I was brewing up on how there should be a law that demands that any obese person be shot on sight before they lay their eggs or something, but I'll save it for another topic. Buuut, anyway, this is the first good thing that came out from these crackpotters: teaching people in a supercalifragilisticexpialidocious manner that they shouldn't be fat. Because it is, in the end, just a matter of education. People must learn that they shouldn't be fat; it's just plain rude.



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    Quote Originally Posted by McDoom, Dr. View Post
    Buuut, anyway, this is the first good thing that came out from these crackpotters: teaching people in a supercalifragilisticexpialidocious manner that they shouldn't be fat. Because it is, in the end, just a matter of education. People must learn that they shouldn't be fat; it's just plain rude.
    Actually it's just telling people not to be too heavy and that can be wrong for two reasons. The first is that some people are only heavy due to their height and frame and the second is that muscular people would also suffer as muscle weighs more than fat.
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    I'm not a guy who usually laughs at fat people, still I find this incident rather hilarious. Well, it's never too late to change, and those people have my best wishes to get on that ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furore View Post
    Actually it's just telling people not to be too heavy and that can be wrong for two reasons. The first is that some people are only heavy due to their height and frame and the second is that muscular people would also suffer as muscle weighs more than fat.
    Well there are people who are heavy you know but the people I know usually range in the 200's at most it's just the way they are and it's not because of their poor diet and life styles. But if you're huge [300+] you're just not the "average big" you're big. My grandfather weighed over 300 and he was turned down from a ride before and he was a big dude. If you're that big it's not only a risk to yourself but a risk to others. Here put it into this perspective.

    Lets say everyone who rides a suspended rollercoaster weighs 100lbs max on the dot. [just an example guys.. I know that is impossible average is 130-200]

    Alright so, lets take Dueling Dragons another ride featured at Universal as an example. The train usually has 8 rows and 4 columns. So 8x4=32. So thats 32 people a full train holds. 32x100=3,200lbs. So assuming that every 32 persons that rides this suspended coaster weighs 100lbs max the total weight that this ride has to hold is 3,200 lbs. But the world isn't perfect and only like one or two persons that will get on a ride will weigh that much [taller kids] but I would say by estimate that eventually allowing more heavier people on the cars would eventually lead to a weight issue. [They sort of already know this and thats why the middle car and middle two seats of most rides are the ones with the modified harnesses]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furore View Post
    Actually it's just telling people not to be too heavy and that can be wrong for two reasons. The first is that some people are only heavy due to their height and frame and the second is that muscular people would also suffer as muscle weighs more than fat.
    Well excuse me princess, but the difference between 320 pounds of fiber and 320 pounds of fat is that one of the two will be able to fit in my car. It's not just the weight, it's being fat overall, physically, aesthetically, mentally and socially. I'm pretty sure Mr.Cappy here isn't lamenting about his weight, he seems to have worked hard to obtain it.
    Now take for instance nerdy beawoo loosers with no common sense at all
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    They should have a special ride that only fat people can ride on, that should even things out :P

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    They should adapt their rides so that 90% of people can ride in them. If you are in that 10% that is abnormally short, tall, fat, skinny, whatever; then it's an acceptable loss (as it just isn't feasible to build for absolutely everyone). But it sounds they reject way more than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmosies View Post
    They should have a special ride that only fat people can ride on, that should even things out :P
    No, then that would be seperation and open a new can of worms.

    I'm a fat guy, but I say keep things as they are. If it acts as incentive for people to lose weight, good. Besides, it's a safety issue.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkseid View Post
    No, then that would be seperation and open a new can of worms.

    I'm a fat guy, but I say keep things as they are. If it acts as incentive for people to lose weight, good. Besides, it's a safety issue.
    It's an engineering issue more than a safety issue. It is quite possible to design rides that big people can ride as well. But it's cheaper to cut corners and make rides for small people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    It's an engineering issue more than a safety issue. It is quite possible to design rides that big people can ride as well. But it's cheaper to cut corners and make rides for small people.
    Sure, it's a business, and so of course the cost/benefit analysis will determine the size of these rides. The fact that it acts as a deterrent for unhealthy abnormality is more of a side effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcmaeonid View Post
    Sure, it's a business, and so of course the cost/benefit analysis will determine the size of these rides. The fact that it acts as a deterrent for unhealthy abnormality is more of a side effect.
    Obesity isn't really that unhealthy, though, depending on the rest of your lifestyle. And some of the people turned away hardly seemed morbidly obese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McDoom, Dr. View Post
    Well excuse me princess, but the difference between 320 pounds of fiber and 320 pounds of fat is that one of the two will be able to fit in my car. It's not just the weight, it's being fat overall, physically, aesthetically, mentally and socially. Etc pic etc etc video etc
    No need to get your knickers in a knot, the OP's article said 'heavy' rather than 'fat'. And even if they are fat, sometimes there's a medical reason or something. I was talking to one guy a while ago and I think he said his was glandular or something and likely in his genetics as his whole family were that way.

    Me, I just like a little fat around my muscle to keep my organs protected. Despite what some'll have you believe too skinny can be just as bad for you as too fat with my favoured midground being fat enough to reap the benefits, skinny enough that you still look good in decent clothes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    They should adapt their rides so that 90% of people can ride in them. If you are in that 10% that is abnormally short, tall, fat, skinny, whatever; then it's an acceptable loss (as it just isn't feasible to build for absolutely everyone). But it sounds they reject way more than that.
    It only sounds like it because it's the news. I'm sure at max they might refuse is no greater than 5-10 people a day which is normal. You have to take into consideration that Universal Studios is a really big theme park. I've been here and the que lines on a normal day can be a an hour and a half wait. So thousands of people ride the rides daily. them turning down the overweight would be at most 10 out of thousands which isn't going to cause the engineers to go "Um hey we should perhaps fix this..."

    I had read somewhere that Disney had to make adjustments to their "It's a Small World" Flume because the boats were beginning to be frequently stuck as the Americans average weight increases.

    I just think the article is expanding a bit more on this because it is a brand new attraction and with anything new you get the raves and the negative issues about it and of course the negative is the one that hits the news. Though props to the fan that is determined to lose his unneeded weight to ride this ride at least this gave him a motivation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    They should adapt their rides so that 90% of people can ride in them. If you are in that 10% that is abnormally short, tall, fat, skinny, whatever; then it's an acceptable loss (as it just isn't feasible to build for absolutely everyone). But it sounds they reject way more than that.
    I am not sure about that, considering the fact that The Wizarding World of Harry Potter has only been open for one week. The body dimension restrictions simply mean the restraints are made to fit a certain way and if they do not fit you (and thus are not able to be properly secured into the ride), then you can't ride.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    Obesity isn't really that unhealthy, though, depending on the rest of your lifestyle. And some of the people turned away hardly seemed morbidly obese.
    Indeed. And it really depends on what definition of obese that you use. Technically, I am obese if strict weight standards are used. However, at 28% body fat, I am hardly fat and have a much more active lifestyle than most people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfgirl90
    What do you guys think? Should Universal make special cars in order to fit their "larger" riders or should these riders not be complaining at all?
    No, because that's ridiculous. The guidelines are in place for safety reasons only. I'd rather not be riding with someone who's 150lbs over the weight/space limit, because you know, i'd enjoy not dying or getting hurt if/when something goes wrong.

    I mean, they do the same thing for airlines. Should we build bigger planes, too?

    Also, It isn't teaching people "not to be fat" as it is not wanting people to die and have huge expensive lawsuits occur as a result. Also, being fat by default isn't really "rude", as much as people's sensibilities are offended by it.

    As for the "discrimination" thing, I don't think this is a case of that. Fat discrimination does exist, but this seems more just because these people cannot physically -fit- and are too -heavy- for the rides. I can see how this would pose a problem, cause you know, things can go wrong if they become unbalanced or whatever.
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    Fortunately any actual changes probably won't occur until 450 lb Joe Shmoe sues Disney, because he can't fit in the Teacups.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gjallarhorn View Post
    Universal has no obligation to do anything, nor should they do anything.
    This and totally this.

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