Having one of your friends call me in not so many words, a douche, has no bearing on your or their inability to understand what makes a poem a poem, or what satire really is. Therefore, I don't care.
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Having one of your friends call me in not so many words, a douche, has no bearing on your or their inability to understand what makes a poem a poem, or what satire really is. Therefore, I don't care.
This should clear up any confusion. (In my dreams)
I did that already Kishiro. It's called Satire: A Definition.
Funny calling me a noob when I clearly understand more than you. I was not summoned either. It's called reading every poem posted, which I do. I believe I have a better understanding than you ever will. And well, this poem ticked me off so I responded in the way I saw fit.
Oh and FYI: I care not about Reputation.
Amazing set by Ezza Obsuna ^^
The days fly by and the feelings remain
So far away and causing us pain
That's okay we'll make it through
Soon we'll get to say "I love you" ♥
I used to be in the literature forum a lot, even before Poetry had it's own subforum. Especially in 2006 and 2007. But I just couldn't stand reading anything in it after most of the people whose writing I liked or respected stopped posting. I voiced my opinions or criticisms about poems and all the sensitive kiddies got offended. People get so damn worked up about what they post, and don't realize that if you are going to put it in the public view, that some people will not like it, and some may even criticize it.
Oh hi, Stephanie Meyer.
And yes, some people may not even give it a chance.
However, it doesn't take too much time to read the poems written here, it's just that when I do they usually leave a bad taste in my mouth, I find my eyes locking in on all the spelling errors and wanting to fix them, and wonder exactly how seemingly EVERYONE'S life could be so damn depressing that all they have to write about is how sad they are. Doesn't that make you more sad? That's not escaping it, that's just taking the melancholy crap out of your head and putting it on paper or on a screen and in a database.
The lesson you kids should take away from this is that poems can be funny, happy, about love, nature, scenery, people, life, etc. YES, they can be sad or emotional, and all the aforementioned things can contain emotion. But at least put something in to it, and try different styles.
It's like all these things are ctrl + c ctrl + v from live journal and dead journal.
tell her shima! im your friend and i understand but calm DOWN don't express your fellings like that! do it more imagitively! so you don't get flamed like you just did kay?
P.S. im sorry!
Done by me~
I'll be your sword, and you can be my Shield.
-------------------------------------------------------Love is a Double-Edged Blade, if you caren't careful you'll be cut, and most times...it's a cut that won't heal...
~ This is something I've learned so many times in my young age, be careful, and do not listen to your heart all the time...otherwise, you'll be fataly wounded...
Konkikushuro ~Divine swordsman
That was the only was I saw fit to express my emotions Shuro but thank you.
Amazing set by Ezza Obsuna ^^
The days fly by and the feelings remain
So far away and causing us pain
That's okay we'll make it through
Soon we'll get to say "I love you" ♥
I have been approached by several people who want to see this removed, but after considering it I have decided not to. Not everyone is going to agree with her perspective, certainly, and they have every right not to. The poem is fairly brutal, but doesn't outright attack anyone. If it did it would be considered a flame and immediately removed. I don't see this as having the potential to drive people away from the forum and nobody should feel personally slighted.
Let's keep things civil here, shall we? Please PM me if you wish to discuss it further.
Why should this thread be deleted? This poetry section is meant for everyone to show their personal feelings on something in the form of poetry, like AI has.
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Why is it the worst one? Usually when posting your likes and dislikes on a poem you explain why. Everyone else said they didnt like it because they felt I was singling them out for harassment.
I've gotten nothing but positive feedback and comments on this from people aside from the two who are blindly spamming me about it.
I'm new here.. But if I may be honest satire or not... Holding back is a art also. you could say it is a satire... And I can respect that. Though I wouldn't be surprised if people felt insulted by it.
If I would make a poem that Hitler was a great guy and made it a satire... Do you think Jews would be happy ?:P It's a stupid example maybe. But I think what I have said now does have a bit of truth in it. So I don't think that those who feel insulted should be called ''spammer''. I think they have all rights to say they're opinion. Just like you have shown your vision Lady gaga.. I think what your doing now by calling them ''spammers''. Your shooting yourself in the leg.. But I do not wish any quarrel so I remain neutral.. Yet I think both sides are saying good and bad things.
^ Stupidest example ever. Comparing a bunch of angry, angsty kids on a poetry forum to Hitler is just foolish.
Let's be honest, about 80% of the poetry in AF is crap. Stop trying to debate it. I bet you I could look at the first page of the forum and find five terrible poems.
^ Stupidest example of how to read...
If I would make a poem that Hitler was a great guy and made it a satire... Do you think Jews would be happy ?
I shale explain for you... For you do not understand..
Here I make a example of if you make something that provokes in this case a Hitler poem. And then stating it just is a satire.. Some Jews might feel offended. So you got it wrong..
Here the poet has made the so called ''Hitler poem''
And here the Jews are ''a bunch of angry, angsty kids on a poetry forum''
But then again I do not wish to quarrel for I did not attack anyone. But you attacked me sir.. Next time read better. And put off those goggles that are blocking your point of view.
Also I'm new I can't judge if they are crap or not. But I can say I saw better poems then this poem!! So if this poem was what you refer to as good. Then I must say you are wrong. Also if you do state the poems in here are bad... I would like to see one made by your hands.
Last edited by The Exiled; 03-10-2010 at 12:16 PM.
At least we finally had a poem that isn't about loving someone, which is almost every single poem in the forum.
lol, goggles
Even if I wrote a poem about hitler and brought a humor to it, that's my right. This website isn't here to opress me, and tell me I can or can not express myself.
If I swore in the post, then I would understand why it got taken down. If I aimed it at any one person, and made it an all out flame war, I'd understand if it got taken down.
In fact, the only time, while I was a moderator here, that a poem EVER got taken down, was a gay bashing poem. That may have been his opinion and all, but he could have expressed it better. This is me, expressing myself.
Honestly, if I didnt edit and remove a bunch of my poems because I'm not a mod here anymore, then you'd see a LOT of poems. I used to write one everytime people would generally start being bad. But I never once named names, or called people out. It was always general. "Follow the rules, please stop spamming, please stop swearing" in prose format.
Just because you think that I am being "too much" doesn't mean I am. Please, by all means, get a thick skin. This is an anime forum, on the internet. If you can't handle a poem that is not directed at anyone, then how are you going to handle the real world? I shouldn't have to defend myself because some people don't understand humor.
I like the poem, because its true.
The only reason why the other people are getting upset in my opinon is because thats how they write their poems. But in all honesty, its a poem, and its your thoughts. And thats what I like. Its a poem you wouldnt normally see in this section.
Good job on it.
I guess in the same vain as Dio and Novak have said, and as I've stated in some ways...
People are only getting upset about this poem because it's true. And the people getting upset are the ones that feel like it's about them--or their poems, that are touched by the truth. Lief harde, kidz. Get over it.
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Hahaha that's funny. To send it to me. First of all I mentioned I was neutral and I did not want quarrel.. Secondly I must say why would I who started 2 days ago feel insulted by a poem of 3 days ago.. I just stated my opinion.. I'm not a small kid nor do I cry or am GEE GOLLY GOSH DARN WILLIKERS But enough said this will be my last post here. For I can taste well enough something has happened that I do not know of. Something that maybe goes way back to older times ? I stick my nose out of it. Please do not reply on me I do not wish quarrel maybe it was wrong of a outsider to post in here. Yet I do believe I have a neutral stance. And that what I said was not 100% untrue. But Sorry if I said anything wrong. Please don't reply on this. Only if you want to talk about it. But if your going to brush it off by calling me a little kid it you should know it does not hit me. Nor does it apply to me I registered two days ago this poem is older! Then my time being here. If I became a new boss on a workplace and they would say bad things about the old boss would I care ? 1+1= ?? I guess you all can do the sum.. though I think a lot of words have passed in this forum. Things I understand things I do not. But I can't say I have said anything a small kid would say. Therefore I leave you all alone. Sometimes words fail in a place. And I think this is such a place. I might want to say it's a shame. If we did stick our heads together. This place could prosper. But I think that is out of the question is it not ?
Well I wrote a whole load of text here. But I felt like I am being misunderstood... I do not seek quarrel that's the last thing I say. Till someone is wanting to give some real comments to me. Not just brushing me off by saying things that do not apply to me.
Last edited by Kishiro; 03-10-2010 at 02:25 PM. Reason: Cleaning up some foul language.
All I see from your comment is the fact that you don't want anyone to reply to this and you can't hold your own against all the truthful comments listed above. If that's not it then I'll pull a "you" move and say please don't reply to it. Why would you even post some of that stuff up there, sometimes more is worse and annoying to read, but I do see some truths in your post.
Oh yea, its possible to be insulted by something made before your lifetime or join date. I don't see how it ever couldn't be. Plus what was the 1 + 1 about? See that pun there? I'm a master at those puns.
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I didn't get your pun, Miz.
This thread is getting horribly off topic can we get back to discussing my poem and why you all have a love/hate relationship with it?
1) I wasn't talking to you in any kind of direct fashion, Son of Europe person. I haven't heard or nor seen you until this thread. As you said yourself, you just joined.
2) Let's keep it clean. Read the rules, dont curse.
3) Can everyone stop with the butts hurts plx? It may be a better idea for you to just not comment on a poem if you can't contain your girlish feelings and emotions and feel the need to gush about how offended you are, or how you feel the poem could be better.
It was satire, a joke for the most part. Despite what truth it holds.
Get over it and let it die. Less Q Q. More pew pew from to pen paper.
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