Canada vs. France.

[Yamato-kun]

Our C2's are already on ground. "C" Squadron of the Royal Canadian Dragoons already have them. I know because I was there when they arrived, and sent over the 17 soldiers (affectionately known as the Horsemen) to use them. One is one of my best friends, a tanker by trade, who was more than happy to fill me in on how good the C2 are.

Now that being said, you only mentioned one tank. What about artillery? What about the technology used by infantry? What about our combat engineers and theirs?

Yes, their navy is more than likely more advanced, and not being Air Force I won't hypothesize on the air craft, but I do know that we are getting the new multi role fighters and ships. JSF I believed the aircraft were called. Either way there are plans to acquire air/naval assets which will effectively make our small AF/Navy capable of taking on a large variety of tasks more than its size would normally dictate.

What I will agree with is the technology isn't everything, obviously. What about the quality of our training vs theirs? Or doctrine? Do we produce better officers and more capable NCO's? Are our logistical support networks more efficient? It just goes on and on..

Since we can't answer this (and more than likely, military analysts would argue back and forth over it) there is no point to just throw out a tiny speck of opinion to say which side will win. Not that it will stop people from doing it of course.

But uh.. to fit in better with the average poster in this threadlet me just say that ... errrrrr... umm liek canada wil shot guns and france will use all theyre nukes but dey wont cause thye are lovers not fighters plus i dun know where canada is on a map lol yay democracie

Oh, we've bought them? You know if we're still borrowing the Leopard 2A6s from the Germans? Well, the Leopard 2 seems like a great MBT (I say seem since I have no right to say "know").

And.. yeah, I mostly look at MBTs and such.. Well, France is developing a Future Soldier system, I think Canada is as well.. I can't remember what it's called though.. I know we use the C8A1 and the C7A3 (or A2, can't remember), 'n they better own the US M16A4s. xD

It's called the F-35 Lightning II now I think, it was called the Joint Strike Fighter during its prototype stages. It'd own to acquire some of those. xD

And, agian I can't comment on the training and docterine of each military.. plus don't have the right. The majority would be fought on the Atlantic for the first phase, wouldn't it? Since we're across it.. so Naval superiority (probably France).. though I dunno' how far aircraft can go nowadays.. x_x

[lagagg]

canada will win bc they have canadian bacon and maple syrup. they will use it to sway other nations to their side. the end

[Josun Tomoro]

Hello CPL. Cody. An interesting queston to ask, is do you think what your country is having you doing over there for my countries frickn government is a good thing?

DEATH TO BUSH!! EVEN THOUGH HE ISNT IN OFFICE!! xD

Cant wait till we pull out of Iraq.. I think ill celebrate with a drink.

Whats the best Canadian beer out there?

[Sagat]

Hello CPL. Cody. An interesting queston to ask, is do you think what your country is having you doing over there for my countries frickn government is a good thing?

DEATH TO BUSH!! EVEN THOUGH HE ISNT IN OFFICE!! xD

Cant wait till we pull out of Iraq.. I think ill celebrate with a drink.

Whats the best Canadian beer out there?

In my opinion, Alexander Keith Pale Ale (from Nova Scotia).. and we're not technically involved with Iraq but there's another theatre of war I don't think we ought to be a part of..

[Cless Alvein]

Pound for pound, the Canadian military is on par with the U.S. military in terms of strength, training, experience, technology and intelligence.

Underestimating them would be a painful and costly mistake.

[Eris]

Pound for pound, the Canadian military is on par with the U.S. military in terms of strength, training, experience, technology and intelligence.

Underestimating them would be a painful and costly mistake.

Ah yes, this is a classic propaganda mistake. That is: Portraying other military forces as inferior. While this at a glance might seem to motivate troops, when they are sent into the field and the enemy starts killing their fellow soldiers with an alarming ease, they will feel as though the government has lied to them, and you'll get tons of deserters.

It is a much better propaganda tactic to demonzie the opposing forces. If you portray them as child-eating savages out to destroy your way of life, failures on your own side will only serve to strengthen your story.

This is also the picture western media has fed us as of late of Iraq and Afghanistan. The ubiquitous burning Bush effigies, AK-47:s shooting wildly into the air whenever something is to be celebrated, women in burqas (sp?), etc. I'm not saying this is doctored, I'm saying it's selected. You never see everyday life, playing children and people buying groceries.

But on the other hand, this has been going on for decades. I challenge you to find a single western newsclip from the USSR when the sun is shining.

[Cless Alvein]

Ah yes, this is a classic propaganda mistake. That is: Portraying other military forces as inferior.

Do you even read what I post when you quote me?

"Don't take the Canadian military for granted, they're a very modern and well trained force even if they lack numbers." I didn't even take sides or offer an opinion on a hypothetical scenario or victor.

pro·pa·gan·da
ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause

So praytell what cause was I trying to further or damage?

[Eris]

Do you even read what I post when you quote me?

"Don't take the Canadian military for granted, they're a very modern and well trained force even if they lack numbers." I didn't even take sides or offer an opinion on a hypothetical scenario or victor.

pro·pa·gan·da
ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause

So praytell what cause was I trying to further or damage?

You're misunderstanding my post. I was commenting on the mistake of underestimating the enemy. It is (or rather was) a common practice to intentionally make soldiers underestimate their enemy by feeding them propaganda. I don't remember what side it was, but there is this classic example from WWII of the follies of this propaganda tactic. Or was it WWI? I remember a book commenting on Hitler commenting on it. Not sure if it was something he learned during WWII, or from WWI... Oh well. You get the idea.

[Grim Scythe]

typical of me, i'm skipping the whole thread convo for now because i don't have that kind of time. So what i'm about to say may have been said, i'll check later.

Honestly i'm fairly positive that the U.S. has much better ties and relations to Canada. So if a war was about to occur then the U.S. would most likely make support with Canada. We can try and talk about a war between the U.S. and France but... come on, really?
But if that happened more interesting tangents could be made like if other countries would try and jump in because the U.S. did.

[Shinigami_55]

i say france cuz france hav help from europe;bt i dnt aprove war,i think war is futile nd grotesque,nd leads nowere jst leads to more anger nd pain

[Señor Nobody]

Wow, this thread is how old?

Right now I can't decide: The country that never fought vs. the country that always surrenders.

[Shinigami_55]

In portugal in 25 April of 1974 there was a revelution to trow down monarquy(cnt spell it) nd only 4 ppl died!
how many countries can say tht??

[Manhattan_Project_2000]

In portugal in 25 April of 1974 there was a revelution to trow down monarquy(cnt spell it) nd only 4 ppl died!
how many countries can say tht??

What does that have to do with anything?

[Señor Nobody]

What does that have to do with anything?

Nothing, he just wants to boast about Portugal's achievements. It'd be fine if he stayed on topic.

[Cobra Commander]

Ooh, this is a hard one.
I guess France is known for backing out quickly (though that label is not really backed up too well) and Canada has more people, so... maybe Canada? But at least France is more acquainted with war; I don't recall Canada having any big impacts in any wars.

Why would they go to war in the first place anyway? Because we mustn't forget about each country's alliances...

Canada contributed to the invasion of Normandy. It's highly unlikely France and Canada would wind up on opposite sides of any new war. I'd vote for Canada, though.

[Baka]

Isn't French an official language of Canada?

[Eris]

Isn't French an official language of Canada?

Yes.

--edit--

Made an elaborate post due to a misread of an as the. If it wasn't for these meddling teenagers I would have gotten away with it!

[Manhattan_Project_2000]

Isn't French an official language of Canada?

Canada is bilingual English/French. French is common in Quebec, and much much less common everywhere else.