A choice?

[Jose]

I was reading Cap's gay marriage ban thread, and something this question dawned on me.....


So I will ask you [AF member] do you believe homosexuality is a choice, or do you believe homosexuals are just born that way?

=O [please keep this mature, we all know oh so well where topic about sexuality usually end up because of disagreement (trash bin)]

[Diocletian]

I really have no idea. It's one of those things that just shouldn't really matter. It can't be when you're born because if your parents were straight I doubt that would go into your genes and make you gay.

If you don't have to fill it out on a document for a license you shouldn't have to say it.

[Miss Moonlight]

I could be a choice for some, but for some it could also just be a pre-disposition. I don't think it really matters, to be honest.

[Beezer]

I really have no idea. It's one of those things that just shouldn't really matter. It can't be when you're born because if your parents were straight I doubt that would go into your genes and make you gay.

If you don't have to fill it out on a document for a license you shouldn't have to say it.

it could just be a dormant gene that happened to "turn on" with that particular person. The drummer in my band is gay, I'll ask him tomorrow what he thinks, I've never asked him before.

[Anime Forum]

Well I'm no high class doctor but in my view of this, I say they are born liking the same gender, it could be a choice but they may be born like that.

[╬Karami Mew~Meow]

I say it's a choice. People change there opinions & points of view throughout life.

[Eris]

I say it's a choice. People change there opinions & points of view throughout life.

Attraction is not a point of view. If a man likes women with red hair, it's not because he sat down in the kitchen one morning and decided "Darn it, I think I'm gonna choose to like women with red hair." But don't take my word for it. Attempt to make yourself like something that doesn't attract you.

Freud would probably say you're attracted to people who resemble your parents, but he is on the other hand quite full of crap, and obviously had issues with his parents.

[Kojack]

I'm an English student so I haven't a clue, but I remember hearing a while ago about sexual preference being based in biology.

[SigmaSD]

Actually, homosexuality does have some biological basis. There are some drugs that pregnant women take that have estrogen (female hormone), and androgen (male hormone). Some of these hormones affect the fetus' brain, which results in hormonal inbalance later in life.

It can also be attributed to trauma such as rape, and any other types of sexual assault.

My opinion is that it doesn't matter. A person has the right to be in love with whoever they want, regardless of sex.

[Brewmaster]

I think it is a choice.Probably affected by where you live and the surroundings.Or some life experience.I don't think you can really be born with it.

[Overlord Darth Fluffles]

I honestly hear both ends of the coin. I mostly hear people go on about it's totally biological/genetic. There are others who say what we like is our opinion. For me, I feel as if it's choice. As Eris said, it's doubtful someone will sit down and think or just wake up one morning and go "YA KNOW WHAT, I like boys/girls".

Even though I have a gay friend who said "I did both, I just liked the guys more. They fancied my intrest." I'm not sure if that's totally biological (I know like...diddly crap about science). SO hey, I say it's probably a mix of both, but that's just me.

[[BlackDeath]]

They are not born with it, it is something discovered as you mature and become more sexually experienced. You then start to know your preferences and make a choice on your own sexuality eventually.

[ShinigamiPrince]

I see it as a choice. There might be the slightest chance of it having some biological background of some sort, but I think it's a choice that people make.
Not everyone grows up the same way and obviously some people might end up taking a liking to the same gender.
It just depends on the circumstances.

[LittleGirl]

I honestly don't know, and it doesn't really matter to me either. But, I don't think it's a choice. People don't choose to be attracted to certain people. Although, I'm not sure you're just born with it...maybe it's just a preference you develop at a young age...

[rikumi]

Absolutely by choice. Influences from surroundings, by exact. There are too many homosexuals around my place and I often mix around with them. Thus, I know this even though I can't really communicate with them well.

[dream magician]

Hmm,it's the environment that affects the individual, especially when they were still at a young age of exposure, sure it can affect there sexuality or as we say gender, but as we grow older, we acquire that knowledge to be or to be something else, i think it's a choice.

[suzumi]

Freud would probably say you're attracted to people who resemble your parents, but he is on the other hand quite full of crap, and obviously had issues with his parents.

Indeed.

A friend of mine (who is gay) says that he believes that gay people are born that way. That if they really had a choice, then people would chose to be straight. Considering the fact that it is way easier to live that way.

I agree with him.

[starchaser]

Well there is a possibility of a genetic basis to it. There's something called CGN called something Gender non-conformity that you may experience as a child, and if you do there's, if I recall rightly, a 75% that you will be gay or bisexual. Whether there is a genetic basis to CGN is something else being researched.

A lot of people I know have known their whole life. My housemate Jason says he knew he was different from as early as he can remember and a few people's parents have said they knew from the get-go. I think when you reach sexual maturity there is an awakening of sorts or perhaps realisation is a better word, though some people don't realise till they're pretty old.

My bio teacher was married with 2 kids very happily then met another male teacher and the two fell in love. It's so cute if a bit devastating on his ex wife, but they seem to be all happy now.

[3pleT]

i believe homosexuality, just like any other paraphilia, is merely a state of mind developed early in life. and given that the vast majority of humans have some kind of paraphilia, i don't think banning gay marriage makes any god damn sense. and if they try to justify it with some they-are-unable-to-procreate kind of nonsense, why the hell don't they ban the marriage between the sterile men and women? just a bunch of close minded religious idiots.

btw, i'm not gay, just opposing homophobia.

[starchaser]

just a bunch of close minded religious idiots.

I was about to say 'Amen to that' but I just realised the irony.


But yeah, agreement.

[lady_jesika]

i believe that its a choice. all that bull about peopel being born gay is just leading scientists for find a "cure" for homosexuality. they dont need to be cured, they just need to be excepted

[starchaser]

i believe that its a choice. all that bull about peopel being born gay is just leading scientists for find a "cure" for homosexuality. they dont need to be cured, they just need to be excepted

Erm, right. Perhaps the religious nutjobs.
But no right minded scientist is going to go 'ahey cure the gays'. There's much better science to be focusing on.
Scientists, like myself, like to understand things and research them. It's our job anyway.

[doomboy536]

Well everyone is a little bit gay really, some people just more so than others. I won't deny that gay people make me uncomfortable, but at the same time I'm happy to live and let live.

[drm0ney]

I hope National Geographics is a good enough source for you all.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...gayanimal.html
This artical talks about animals, both captive and wild, behaving in homosexual ways. At the end of it (there's two pages) it talks about people.

As for my point of view, I've seen enough gay people in my life to know they honestly like the same sex as them. Why would some one choose to have their family, and sometimes friends hate them and not talk to them, if all they had to do was like the other sex?

[DOOM!]

Articles of scientific researches haven't proven anything concrete yet.
I believe it's a slow developing Choice. The choice development speed and age differ from person to person and their psyche. Most factors that cause and enforce this choice are: how they were treated by family members, how many times they got beat up by the opposite gender, if they ever got layed, if they did enjoy/overthrew heterosexual intercourse, how they perceived homosexuality before they converted, and many.
Why, if the homosexuality concept were never popular, people would be less likely to become homosexuals. I don't know why i've been bashed so harshly by all members, the last time i tried to say it's a choice and not a genetical thing.