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    Default Virtual Idols killing the real thing?

    Watching a little special on the E! channel brought up virtual idols, ie. Lara Croft, T-Babe, and KD98. A Virtual idol is a woman who is completely not real, no pulse whatsoever. Awesome, kool, gravy!

    But how will this affect real idols? You know, Britney Spears, Kim Kardashian, yada yada yada.

    Let's face it, a virtual idol can, for all intents and purposes, be perfect. Perfect skin, perfect clothes, demeanor, etc. No paparazzi can catch them shagged-up drunk, beating their kids, etc.

    So hit me back, will the virtual idol eclipse the real idol??

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    It depends how much of a loser you are, if you fall in love with pixels and drawings that old men did in their basement, then of course it will over take.

    But if you are a normal person, than no.
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    Honestly, the real idols can go and die in some corner for all I care. I find the celebrity cult of personality absolutely disgusting.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Blasphemous Feind View Post
    It depends how much of a loser you are, if you fall in love with pixels and drawings that old men did in their basement, then of course it will over take.

    But if you are a normal person, than no.
    But existence depends a bit on perception. I mean even the definition of existence is dependent on perception.

    Hypothetically speaking, unless I touch a real celebrity, it doesn't make a different whether or not they're virtual.



    To be on topic, I don't care about celebrities myself. The truth of the matter is that celebrities aren't necessary so it wouldn't be a problem if they went away without being replaced. I think there will always be real celebrities anyway.

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    Well, no character designer is going to make a Virtual chick ugly, right?

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    I'm okay with virtual idols, but I would never think of them as a replacement for the real thing.

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    Truthfully, I am so tired of American Idol. It has had enough seasons. So I think it would be awesome even if Virtual Idols would knock it down lol. I think the singers who made it so far are talented and all, but I think this takes away from the artist's way of making it without going through some "TV show", band creating/idol creating, whatever you call it.

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    This whole thing is nothing but a spin off issue relating to the porn industries, and the push to make Barbie more realistic in figure. To be honest with you I find the whole thing disturbing. People become desensitized, and lust for things by nature. If all the male population sees things that are our definition of perfect then we as a group are raising the bar, a bar that I think is near imposable for the opposite sex to reach, think about it, does the girls you look for in one way or the other resemble a girl, virtual or other that you saw on tv, in an anime or other? and how many girls do you know of that can measure up to this standard?
    Then consider the result, if you find your self to be well for a lack of a better term wanting, because you significant other is not measuring up either by appearance, bed, demeanor, or personality what will you do? I will tell you what I would do, leave her. Honestly it is that simple, and I have done it.
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    well, since I'm all for getting rid of the real ones, I'd rather have virtual-models. ...then I'd just hack the ftp server hosting them and replace ALL their files with gay porn! ^_^ (im so evil)

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    Yes please-- virtuals! I'm sick of these celeberties and there little mishaps with the law and going to rehab for other common issues that people just love to hear about because they are so important because they are famous...blah blah blah (ex: britney spears...its so sad that I use to love her back when she first began, now look at her >.<)
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    Not unless you can [have sexual relations with] um'.
    Ehhh, I dunno if I'll stick around. We'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000 View Post
    Not unless you can [have sexual relations with] um'.
    Well unless you're the picture of Aryan/Nubian perfection and rich, that isn't a factor for real celebrities either.

    Vcelebs would fail, and I can sum up why in one word: Schadenfreude. People love these celebrities because they're pathetic, miserable people and love hearing about other people failing at life.

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    Well, when was the last time you saw Haruhi Suzumiya shave her head for a stupid reason? or Guiseppe from Gunslinger Girl hang Henrietta out of a tall building? or Kasumi from DOA take a drug overdose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amray View Post
    Well, when was the last time you saw Haruhi Suzumiya shave her head for a stupid reason? or Guiseppe from Gunslinger Girl hang Henrietta out of a tall building? or Kasumi from DOA take a drug overdose?
    I'm pretty sure that, given adequate time and resources, I can find all three of those.

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    Yeah but, I'm 100% positive things like that will not be plastered all over the front page of Newspapers and Magazines regarding a Fictional character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amray View Post
    Yeah but, I'm 100% positive things like that will not be plastered all over the front page of Newspapers and Magazines regarding a Fictional character.
    Then you and I clearly subscribe to different publications, good sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000 View Post
    Not unless you can [have sexual relations with] um'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Dr. M.D. M.P. Eris View Post
    Honestly, the real idols can go and die in some corner for all I care. I find the celebrity cult of personality absolutely disgusting.
    that ^

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    I never really got into that celebrity fad since i never really cared for what other people do other than the people im close to, sure they give us entertainment, and if they can act woopie,i still dont see why they have to be treated any differently than any other person, sure theyre pretty or handsome but if you look around at a public school/mall im sure you can find someone just as attractive to you. What is considered a celebrity anyways?

    onto the subject at hand, virtual idols are just the latest way for companies to get money in my opinion, if they can, they'll try to sell you a model to dance around your desktop for 50$ and considering that most people own a computer nowadays and how many people are into the virtual realm than the real one they might as well succeed.

    Let it go as it is, some people will like it, others will continue admiring celebrities, and some wouldnt care either way, the world would go round regardless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanosuke23 View Post
    Well unless you're the picture of Aryan/Nubian perfection and rich, that isn't a factor for real celebrities either.
    Yeah, but the fantasys for real celebritys don't by definition require some sort of time portal to open up in your garage and spit out a trusiting and emotionally vulnerable Laura Croft sans clothes.
    Ehhh, I dunno if I'll stick around. We'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000 View Post
    Yeah, but the fantasys for real celebritys don't by definition require some sort of time portal to open up in your garage and spit out a trusiting and emotionally vulnerable Laura Croft sans clothes.
    All they require is an imagination.

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    Virtual "idols" don't kill the real thing for me, because the real thing (celebrities) aren't even very real in the first place. If some guy were to dump me for not being exactly like some chic in a video game, I'd just be slapping myself for going out with such an idiot in the first place. O_o

    The big boobed virtual chics do make me roll my eyes though. Like a chic with her size G boobs popping out could be a ninja? Without a sports bra at least? Riggght. Can someone say back pain and saaaaaaggy boobs in the near future? LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by MissChelly View Post
    ...The big boobed virtual chics do make me roll my eyes though. Like a chic with her size G boobs popping out could be a ninja? Without a sports bra at least? Riggght. Can someone say back pain and saaaaaaggy boobs in the near future? LOL
    If I ever met a Ninja chick with size G boobs, I'd be so distracted she could easily whoop my azz six ways to Sunday. And I'd enjoy every second of it!...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wio View Post
    All they require is an imagination.
    But you are always aware on some level (I would hope) that the Virtual Idol isn't real. You always could build up some muscle and some money, hang around LA night clubs and seduce some starlet with your goods looks, but Laura will always be out of your grasp.

    To use an analogy, it's the difference between hearing about a really cool Japanese game that will never be localized, and reading someone's fanfiction about a idea for a game that they are never going to get made. You could always mod your console, learn Moonspeak, import it, etcetera... but you are never going to be able to play that guy's idea.

    You can fap all you want to either one but fewer people would fap to the obviously fictitious, anime fans not withstanding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000 View Post
    But you are always aware on some level (I would hope) that the Virtual Idol isn't real.
    Yes, but that's not a huge deal if you prefer the VI.
    If you have the choice between a movie you really like and a movie that is so/so but comes with a lottery ticket with 1:99999999999999999 chance of winning, you'll most likely go to the movie you like.


    EDIT:
    Also, you have to consider how true real idols are to the character they become when the cameras are rolling(unless you decide to make a stink while cameras are rolling, but even then they'll probably go OOC).
    Most likely you'll be left with something that only looks somewhat similar.

    So, if a person dresses up to look somewhat similar as a virtual idol, you end up with the same deal.

    /thread
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