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    Default "the supernatural" what do you think bout it??

    i was reading a interesting book on "the supernatural" and it was very interesting. it made me wonder and such so i wanted to know what everyone else thoughts were. ghosts teh paranormals, demons and such what do you believe??

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    Well, I believe in ghosts. They scare me poopless. I also believe in aliens, and they scare me poopless too.
    I pretty much believe in a LOT of supernatural stuff, it's just so interesting. And I like how it will make you think.
    I don't believe in Big Foot though...he doesn't scare me poopless.

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    yeah its a nice piece of mind cake...
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    I believe in ghosts

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    I am a strong believer in Ghosts. I have seen one.

    Because of the old layout of my Bedroom I could see the stairs as I laid on my bed. One Night I saw a white figure come out of my Sisters room and go down the stairs. I thought that it was my Sister but then she just happened to come out the Bathroom which is on the total opposite side of our upstairs, and also why the landing was so dark. I told my Mother but she just laughed and said that I was probably imagining it as I was half asleep.

    A month later in general conversation out next Door neighbour, old fellow, said to my Mother that the recent owner of the House died by falling down our stairs. I was pretty shocked to be honest.

    Now many people who visit our House are scared of our Stairs. Haha.
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    Honestly? No. The word supernatural itself is a contradiction in terms. Nature is what is all around us; if ghosts and whatnot existed they would be natural -- not supernatural.

    These are the causes of most "supernatural" encounters, be it ESP, ghosts, astral projection or whatnot:
    This article also provides some insights: Hallucinations in the sane (see "apparitional experiences" and "sense of presence"), more tips are the articles on pareidolia and critical thinking. And let's not forget good old fashioned sleight of hand.
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    I totally believe in the supernatural and in the paranormal!! Why, you may ask? Well, it's because I, *Ninna* ~ Hatake, have had some experiences in the paranormal!! *all gasp at once* Now, I would tell you what happened in my life but for the faint at heart I'll spare the details....unless you want to hear my story??

    I'll put it in my blog!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Number Six View Post
    Honestly? No. The word supernatural itself is a contradiction in terms. Nature is what is all around us; if ghosts and whatnot existed they would be natural -- not supernatural.

    These are the causes of most "supernatural" encounters, be it ESP, ghosts, astral projection or whatnot:This article also provides some insights: Hallucinations in the sane (see "apparitional experiences" and "sense of presence"), more tips are the articles on pareidolia and critical thinking. And let's not forget good old fashioned sleight of hand.
    Are their any bounds to your intelligence?
    I still disagree though, what I saw that time 'was' there. But thats just me.

    My Mother still disbelieves the supernatural although she has even seen a Ghost herself and still has doubts. She wintnessed a woman in a Victorian dress walk through a forest near her old Yard where she kept her Horses. But obviously that was not enough for her. Haha.

    Another supernatural story is that we have the ashes of our oldest pet dog in a cabinet with a framed picture of him attached to his old collar in our lounge. We had him for over 11 years so my Mother refused to rid of him completely therefore wanted his ashes to remain in our house. He was like a proper member of our family and disposing of him would leave a huge dent in my Mothers life. And one Night she swore that she heard him panting downstairs. It woke her up a 3AM. And still, she does not believe in them 100%.

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    We accidentally turned up an old tombstone with the plow last night while preparing a new field for planting.

    There used to be a ghost in this house actually, though I have not sensed his presence in several years now. He might have finally passed on, please with the way in which we have restored this farm. The feeling I would get from him is a chill coming from a specific direction, as though he was looking at me.

    It's possible that other supernatural phenomena exist, such as the ghosts of Gettysburg battlefield and the aura in that location that makes cameras and electronics malfunction, though there aren't a lot of documented cases or provable fact regarding these.

    And as someone who actually has the enlarged and misplaced canine tooth of a vampire, you have to prove conclusively that supernatural does not exist before I would believe it.

    It's like aliens, you can never prove conclusively that they do not exist, but it is possible to prove that they do: Find and document one.
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    I believe the potential for it exists, but until there's actual hard evidence either way we'll never know for sure.

    However, I will assume it's real if faced with a situation that can only be immediately by the "ghosts are real" idea in a situation until evidence suggesting otherwise appears.

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    I don't believe in supernatural things.. Most pictures on the internet with some sort of ghost are just photoshoops.. ALL of them.


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    I don't things are supernatural, because it's just something human beings still don't know much about. When something is understood, it is no longer something supernatural or unknown. I personally do believe in ghosts, spirits, demons and other things.
     
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    Honestly? No. The word supernatural itself is a contradiction in terms. Nature is what is all around us; if ghosts and whatnot existed they would be natural -- not supernatural.
    I think that there are lots of things that we don't understand out there, and saying they cannot exist because we happen to title them incorrectly just doesn't seem quite right. In my opinion, calling something supernatural is just another way of saying we don't know what the hell is going on.

    I've worked in the healthcare profession for many years and seen many strange things. I have come face to face with a transparent human torso, and I asure you I was not hallucinating, nor was anyone playing some sort of a trick on me. Was it a ghost? I don't know. But I can assure you it did fall into the supernatural category.

    For me, the supernatural is real enough. If others choose to close their eyes to the unknown, then that is their choice. However, it doesn't change reality, in whatever form you choose to accept it.
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    I believe in ghosts. And my city is famous for having a place with a lot of paranormal activity (my REAL city, not my profile location, lawl). I haven't visited the place yet... I'm too scared. >.<;

    Do you believe it in your head?

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    No. Or, at best, to an exceedingly limited degree.

    I'm somewhat interested in paranormal and supernatural claims and stories, but the lack of hard evidence, inability to test experimentally and overabundance of anecdotal nonsense make such claims dubious at best.

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    I have come face to face with a transparent human torso, and I asure you I was not hallucinating, nor was anyone playing some sort of a trick on me.
    How can you be absolutely certain that your mind wasn't simply playing tricks on you? I find it funny that people accept that the mind can create entire worlds out of nothing through dreams, but then deny adamantly that such a process was at work when something seemingly supernatural occurs. The human mind is wonderfully adept at making the imaginary seem real.

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    Here's my theory, if I can see it, hear it, smell it, or ACTUALLY sense it, then I'll believe it...but I don't do petty rumors through instant beliefs...not my style ^_~
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legend Saber View Post
    How can you be absolutely certain that your mind wasn't simply playing tricks on you? I find it funny that people accept that the mind can create entire worlds out of nothing through dreams, but then deny adamantly that such a process was at work when something seemingly supernatural occurs. The human mind is wonderfully adept at making the imaginary seem real.
    No one can ever truely be sure of anything, really. In my mind what I saw was as real as anything ever can be. I accept the fact that I have no way to prove what I saw was anything other than a figment of my imagination, other than other eyewitness accounts. And those never seem to be enough for the doubters I've run across.

    But I would ask you in turn, how can you be absolutely sure that my mind was playing tricks? Just like myself - you cannot, which seems to leave us in the same boat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by forgotten Duo View Post
    No one can ever truely be sure of anything, really. In my mind what I saw was as real as anything ever can be. I accept the fact that I have no way to prove what I saw was anything other than a figment of my imagination, other than other eyewitness accounts. And those never seem to be enough for the doubters I've run across.
    That is when we apply Occam's razor, which simplified states that given two possible explanations, the simplest one is preferred.



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    Quote Originally Posted by forgotten Duo
    But I would ask you in turn, how can you be absolutely sure that my mind was playing tricks? Just like myself - you cannot, which seems to leave us in the same boat.
    I'm not certain, of course, I simply feel it a more reasonable explanation.

    I've experienced a lot of strange things myself in the past, but nothing short of a completely clear, lucid event which leaves behind physical evidence (or some means of proper confirmation, preferably independently repeatable) will convince me a supernatural event has taken place. It might seem like a bit much, but I'm really just asking for supernatural claims to be put under the same degree of scrutiny as regular old scientific ones. I think there's a good reason most paranormal claims are anecdotal in nature and leave behind only inconclusive or highly dubious forms of physical evidence.

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    My mom felt that someone was touching her while she was laying in her bed but yet she was alone. She turned on the light and no one was there. I think they could be there, but they avoid clashing with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number Six View Post
    Honestly? No. The word supernatural itself is a contradiction in terms. Nature is what is all around us; if ghosts and whatnot existed they would be natural -- not supernatural.

    These are the causes of most "supernatural" encounters, be it ESP, ghosts, astral projection or whatnot:This article also provides some insights: Hallucinations in the sane (see "apparitional experiences" and "sense of presence"), more tips are the articles on pareidolia and critical thinking. And let's not forget good old fashioned sleight of hand.
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    That is when we apply Occam's razor, which simplified states that given two possible explanations, the simplest one is preferred.
    And then we proceed to argue about which explanation is the simplest one.

    I think there's a good reason most paranormal claims are anecdotal in nature and leave behind only inconclusive or highly dubious forms of physical evidence.
    And I agree that most sightings are by nut-jobs who cry "ghost" at the first sight of anything unusual. Or someone will wake up in the middle of the night confused and see, hear of feel something unusual. And really you have no reason to think any different of me.

    All I can say is that I was wide awake, alert and oriented while working during the majority of my personal experiences. Still, it's just my word which really doesn't hold much weight.


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    To tell the truth, my friends believe in ghosts...I'm kinda doubtful on my side...if I really do find a "Ghost", which I suppose I've found a couple...I guess, I just snap my fingers in its direction or make a gun with my fingers and say "bang", everything stops. Feels good to know that someone or something won't bother you...but that stuff only happens when my friends want a "ghost to go away or calm down...*sigh*
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    I'm scared of them at my other house. Well theres never been any sightings or anything related but I'm always scared to sleep in my room completely dark, or with my door closed.

    But I can easily come over here and sleep in total darkness with my door shut and no problem. It's just that particular house.

    Also when I was a kid I would never walk to my room alone if it was dark [back then I didn't sleep in that room] So someone always had to walk me back there if I needed something. And if I did go alone, I turned on every light on the way.

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    I do know if anything is wrong in the house at night I will usually sense it and awaken to correct the problem, during the winter months it is most often the coal stove that provides heat having an unchecked draft and overheating.

    Though aside from the feeling of being watched I used to get at times, I haven't encountered anything of that sort.

    There was once an instance at scout camp though, in a cabin known as the Amy Jenkins house. Supposidly the original owner of the 'house' like cabin had been killed in an accident shortly before the land was purchased by the council, and now any troop that misbehaved or left the place messy would fall to misfortune.

    The last time I stayed there, I was on the couch near the fireplace as I had been chosen to tend the fire overnight as usual. There was definately something there, even with the fireplace roaring to keep the building warm at -5F I still was getting chills as though something was watching me. And it followed me too, I picked up a lantern and walked through the house to check everyone was asleep and all the rooms were staying at suitable temperatures.

    The guys HAD been a bit rowdy earlier that night, though more likely it was just paranoia.

    Still it used to scare the living daylight out of me when something like that happens. It still does sometimes, I will get out my field knife and search the house for signs of trouble if I feel uneasy in the evening.

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