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    Default Do you think there are significant differences between anime and western animation?

    Hey guys, I'm currently working on a case study for my media studies exam coming up and one of the available topics was children and media. The question title I've gone for is 'Difference in culture between japanese anime and western cartoons' and the most crucial point to covering any ground on this is primary research with people's opinions being the research.

    I'm a very big and loyal anime fan but I can also remember the cartoons I used to watch as a kid like Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry and looking back, a lot of those cartoons had deeper intricate (sometimes negative) messages they were sending across. Basically I want to know what you guys think about the difference in culture and messages between far-eastern cartoons (anime) and western cartoons as a whole. Such as Naruto teaching kids to not judge people until you are familiar with their background as opposed to Sesame Street doing the exact opposite and teaching kids to label people based on their appearance.

    Obviously examples would be very helpful and comparisons too, but please don't forget to simply give your opinion on which offers more positive messages and teachings and which offers negative stuff. Also include which you prefer ( based on messages that is. Goes without saying that all of us here prefer anime :-). )

    Just basically help contribute to my research.

    All opinions would be extremely useful and appreciated.

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    yeah, western animation, well somtimes, has a more fluid like movement and there is more motion in some shows shown in the jaw, now this only pertains to shows. I have seen in movies more jaw movement in anime movies. Japanese animation is more quick movement and has giant tears that pop out of no were and giant pound signs # to show anguish while western animation shows it through movement and hand gestures. Yeah there are many differences between the two. Just looking at them you can see it.

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    Western style has more curves I find, anime has pointy hair or chins.

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    Yes, there is a big BIG fine line between animation towards Westren and Japanese anime. It first's [I think don't get me wrong though, if I am wrong you guy's can correct me.] Go's through the manga first, as though Westren cartoon's really don't go into comics first [Like Looney Tunes], they go into the animations first instead. Westren cartoons really have no point in story line, as though anime in Japan has a great story line's in their works of anime. Although, in Westren animation there is a difference in animation just look at the Westren and compare it towards Japanese. Is there a fine line in animation? My correction is yes there is.

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    **UPDATE**

    I'm talking more about narratives and ideologies and things of that sort, not the art style and more technical differences. Sorry for any confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirai Ryu Scorpion View Post
    Westren cartoons really have no point in story line, as though anime in Japan has a great story line's in their works of anime.
    This is false. There are western animations that have long complex storylines and western animation that have an episode storyline. It's just that children prefer to watch episode long storylines instead, because it is much easier to not get left behind. Infact the problem with the long storylines is that they tend to try to patch this with a million flashbacks. Most western animations also tend to have some moral too them in every episode, where as japanimations try to force some philosophy on you through some character once every 10-20 episodes.
    These are just internal though

    External: Western animation tends to be more realistic when it comes to portraying emotion, though it does have dollar-sign-eyes and ear-steam. Eastern animation tends to have these moments where there is no movement and the camera is just panning this frozen frame. This is a no-no in western animation. The movement can be fake with ridiculous scenes where an enemy instantly teleports.

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    I would also say that, in general, western animation is aimed at children and not at the adult market, whilest anime caters for both (though there is a larger younger market).

    "Westren cartoons really have no point in story line, as though anime in Japan has a great story line's in their works of anime."

    for this I would say that this holds true for more modern animations, the older animations in the west were well produced with storylines, but the focus has changed in more recent years.

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    Generally, anime has longer, more excrutiatingly detailed dialougue.
    Animes often have psuedo-philosophical points key to the plot, too.

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    Um yeah there is a vast difference.

    Western Culture has yet to adapt to real life such as homosexuals. We don't put them in cartoons for some reason, but we'll sure has hell put them on TV like in the show Will & Grace. Western Culture has an apperance different than that of Japan. We don't really want to draw like them, to us they suck. And Vice Versa.

    I could go on but I'm too lazy. Also the Japanese tend to use their imaginations A LOT MORE. Plus they have more violence. I mean I can't remember the last time I saw some good ol' Tom & Jerry or Looney Toons where Jerry gets his tail plugged into an electrical socket, or Foghorn Leghorn grab that dogs tail and he just BEAT THE HELL out of his butt with a 2x4 without some dumbass kids imitating it because their parents are too lazy to do something about it
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    Quote Originally Posted by overwatch View Post
    I would also say that, in general, western animation is aimed at children and not at the adult market, whilest anime caters for both (though there is a larger younger market).

    "Westren cartoons really have no point in story line, as though anime in Japan has a great story line's in their works of anime."

    for this I would say that this holds true for more modern animations, the older animations in the west were well produced with storylines, but the focus has changed in more recent years.
    I agree with you on that statement, on "Westren animation is aimed at children and not at the adult market". Although, look at Wile E Coyote and Road Runner, it's a good cartoon for adults and kids. Well, that's what I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Benoit View Post
    Western Culture has yet to adapt to real life such as homosexuals. We don't put them in cartoons for some reason, but we'll sure has hell put them on TV like in the show Will & Grace.
    I don't know...there's a character on Kids Next Door (Cartton Network) that seems awfully light in the loafers to me (it's one of those villainous adults).

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    western animation has alot of sensorship and is more associated with innocence than with real life.Anime is less censored and has more action more violence and it is based on some manga. Anime is more concerned with getting the idea rather than making random adventures.

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    ..the point is realli we all know it! its still at the bak of our minds hoping to get out

    the plain truth is anime is far better anyway
    and western has crap graphics

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    Quote Originally Posted by red_sky300 View Post
    ..the point is realli we all know it! its still at the bak of our minds hoping to get out

    the plain truth is anime is far better anyway
    and western has crap graphics
    Picture a well, please. It is deep, and wide. It's walls are made of expertly chiselled stone, mortared together with the touch of an expert craftsman, smooth as a fine-cut board. Now, go watch The Iron Giant, Anastasia, The Lion King, and possibly Titan A.E. When you are done with the watching, throw yourself into that well.

    The difference in Western and Eastern animation is primarily a question of audience. The Western audience for animation is primarily kids watching it on Saturday morning. Kids don't really care about philisophical questions and plots as deep as the ocean. Occaisionally, we get animated films like some of the above that are marketed to an older audience, but not often. The audience isn't perceived to be there. And if it is, it's already been taken by anime or 3D animation. So, Western animation is for kids on Saturday morning.

    Saying that anime is better in every conceivable way is frankly stupid. There are likely many animes that are so bad as to redeem you of your sins through suffering. The art style is not better nor worse, it's simply a different art style. The stories are not any better or worse because it's an anime, that depends on the writer. Indeed, it's stupid to say animes are better at anything simply because they're animes is unless the attribute in question is whether they're made in Asia.

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    The difference in Western and Eastern animation is primarily a question of audience. The Western audience for animation is primarily kids watching it on Saturday morning. Kids don't really care about philisophical questions and plots as deep as the ocean.[/quote]

    Sorry the quote didn't work correctly.
    To imply that anime somehow deal with real philosophy on a regular basis is silly. It's tried, but it's almost always horribly executed. There's more philosophical depth to Rush songs than in the average anime. It almost always comes back to the same point: the individual must sacrifice for the whole (group or society) or one must care for others. I've yet to see anything else explored. Rarely are there truly individualistsic characters (unless the've been tampered with in a dubbing). To think that anime (in general) have deep meaning you'd have to think the same of The Matrix.

    Additionally, to say that anime plots are complex or deep is a severe understatement. Many have convoluted masses and messes of echoing dialougue, flashbacks, thought blurbs, and seemingly spontaneous visual cues to make up their plots. Not all are this way, but far to many are.

    Having ranted to sufficient length, I close reminding any potetially disgruntled posters that I find anime entertaining regardless of these failings. Every media form has some; that doesn't discredit those arts, and the same goes for anime.
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