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    Quote Originally Posted by Bean Bandit
    Do not use those 3 letters again. We do not shortcut certain words here, and that word is at the top of the list.
    F is such a naughty and violent letter. We should never use it. And for that matter, we shouldn't use "eff" anymore either. Just pointing out.

    Back on topic: Gay flag. I just hate that it's a rainbow. We should adopt the Nazi classification system back and make the gay symbol a pink triangle for gay men and black for lesbians. I want to enjoy rainbows without having to think of gay.

    Also, I hate affirmative action. It's stupid. In this day and age, we should know better than to give special treatment just because white America is trying to remedy its guilty conscious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ichigosama72 View Post
    Do you like it? I don't. I think it sperates homosexuals from the rest of the world, like we're our own race or something. We're NOT! We just happen to like the same sex is all. Anyway, what do you guys think?
    Now we heterosexual people are going to have to make our own Straight flag, just to balance things out. Damn. Why can't we all just live in harmony?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bean Bandit View Post
    Do not use those 3 letters again. We do not shortcut certain words here, and that word is at the top of the list.

    From reading your replies here, your either jealous because you feel left behind, or your homophobic. I will rule out the homophobic because of how your other replies were typed previously. Being left behind from what? This is America. The place where you can achieve almost anything you want, or become what you want. But it doesn't happen by itself. You have to do it yourself. YOU have to go out there and work hard at what you want. Most people are quitters, and then blame society or the system. If your not one of them, then your just another person who sits in the background and whines because someone, or some group is doing something. Whining about strait people not getting scholarships and etc, is so lame. It seems you have issues with other races getting scholarships also. It sounds like you are just one of the many many out there with your hand held out asking for your share. You didn't get a free hand out so it seems your complaining. And that is what a scholarship is. Someone else paying the bill for you.

    I Personally would rather see someone from a poor country or ethnic background get a scholarship than the average American who whines and complains they didn't get their free share of handouts. At least that other person is going to make the best of their scholarship because they realize they are in the minority to get in, and that their race or orientation helped them get in. That makes most of them work harder. Then after getting a degree they try to help other less fortunate people out, because they know how hard it is to get in. If you got their scholarship I doubt you would be helping any minorities, or people with different sexual preferences out in any way from the way you typed here in this topic.
    Wow. - claps - Don't you just love it when people think they know who you are? I know I do. Let me just take in one more moment and read it again...

    Yep, you know me so well.

    If you did read my posts, atleast more than just a few lines you skimmed I'm sure, you would have noticed that I'm not "whining", as you say, about not getting them, I'm stating that either we all get advantages or no one gets them. That's just what I think. Not once did I say, "Oh, I sit on my butt and do nothing and want everything given to me." People should work hard. That's a no-brainer. That's like saying the sun rises and sets. There's nothing wrong with wanting a help hand once in a awhile. I know I've rarely gotten them, but when I did, it helped. You don't know me, you've never lived my life. But if it gets you off, then you turn this into a personal assumption war on human beings in America cause I'm not wasting my time explaining crap like this any more.

    And you're absolutely right. I wouldn't help out minorities. I would help anyone and not discriminate against it cause it would be my job. I would get paid to help people. It wouldn't matter what scholarship I got, what school I went to, or who made my friggin' breakfast that day. Comprende?

    One more thing. You say scholarships are free money. This is correct. But here's a scenario for you. If you had the choice of working 10 years to make tuition, or 5 years to make tuition with the help of scholarships, which would you choose? You spit this "people need to work hard and handouts are for lazy people" crap when I doubt anyone would turn down free money.

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    I love that flag.

    Its pretty.
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    The flag is so rainbowish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramonkun View Post
    The flag is so rainbowish
    Well duh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Wow. - claps - Don't you just love it when people think they know who you are? I know I do. Let me just take in one more moment and read it again...

    Yep, you know me so well.

    If you did read my posts, atleast more than just a few lines you skimmed I'm sure, you would have noticed that I'm not "whining", as you say, about not getting them, I'm stating that either we all get advantages or no one gets them. That's just what I think.
    Skims back just a little for the following:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Ok. The scholarships for african americans and native americans does piss me off. It's understandable why they get them, but I'm white and I get no scholarship.
    Well that sounds like whining to me. And the hard workers shouldn't get anything more than the slackers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    But if it gets you off, then you turn this into a personal assumption war on human beings in America cause I'm not wasting my time explaining crap like this any more.
    Does this mean your leaving the topic here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    One more thing. You say scholarships are free money. This is correct. But here's a scenario for you. If you had the choice of working 10 years to make tuition, or 5 years to make tuition with the help of scholarships, which would you choose? You spit this "people need to work hard and handouts are for lazy people" crap when I doubt anyone would turn down free money.
    Maybe if you worked harder, or applied yourself more, you would have gotten your schollarship or a full scholarship, and you wouldn't have these issues against others getting scholarships. And those in the minority because of their race, sexual preferences, or background or for whatever reason, most likely work hard to get the chance to be elegible. Basically meaning they worked harder or they are smarter than you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bean Bandit View Post
    Maybe if you worked harder, or applied yourself more, you would have gotten your schollarship or a full scholarship, and you wouldn't have these issues against others getting scholarships. And those in the minority because of their race, sexual preferences, or background or for whatever reason, most likely work hard to get the chance to be elegible. Basically meaning they worked harder or they are smarter than you.
    Hmm. I've never been to college, nor do I want to. I brought up scholarship as an example. So by mentioning the unfairness in a scholarship, I have been deemed lazy(don't work hard enough) and I'm not smart enough(people are smarter than me.)

    Do I laugh, do I bang my head against the wall, wait I know!

    I'm not going to care. Stop retorting with "You need to do this! I know you so well! Blah, blah, blah!"

    Back it up or shut up. Stop trying to use me as a run around. Cause if you do that, then it's gonna be a very long meaningless conversation about your assumptions and me correcting you.

    Now, debate me! -eats cookie-


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Hmm. I've never been to college, nor do I want to. I brought up scholarship as an example. So by mentioning the unfairness in a scholarship, I have been deemed lazy(don't work hard enough) and I'm not smart enough(people are smarter than me.)

    Do I laugh, do I bang my head against the wall, wait I know!

    I'm not going to care. Stop retorting with "You need to do this! I know you so well! Blah, blah, blah!"

    Back it up or shut up. Stop trying to use me as a run around. Cause if you do that, then it's gonna be a very long meaningless conversation about your assumptions and me correcting you.

    Now, debate me! -eats cookie-
    Dude, your immaturity is astounding me. You are in NO position to assume Bean is saying "He knows you". He never once stated that he KNOWS who you are, you're DOING that job for him by what you are TYPING. Also, you've assumed in an earlier post that I was being sensetive, when in fact -- I was not.

    Another thing: You are whining. Your sarcasm is showing your immaturity. If you truly wish to debate, saying "Shut up" or being sarcastic is exactly the OPPOSITE of that, because insults aren't tolerated.

    Now back on topic, you ARE sounding like someone who is caring about yourself, you remind me of a kid that would say "Mom! You gave him an extra chip more than me!". Your replies to mine have utterly shown nothing useful or anything that even back up your statements. All you seem to be doing is throwing a temper tantrum.

    The gay flag doesn't represent anything more than equality and pride. That is the source of its creation. I can PROMISE you that it was not invented to get "free stuff". Homosexuals NEVER claimed they are better than you, or that they deserve more, if you've come encountered one -- Then that's THEIR opinion, not homosexuality as a whole.

    Keep that in mind before you reply to me. Because honestly, I would rather debate with someone that actually comes off as an adult, than a child.



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    Wow. This is vaguely about the gay flag anymore. It's more of a flame-a-thon with hints of gay flag-ism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faceless111 View Post
    Wow. This is vaguely about the gay flag anymore. It's more of a flame-a-thon with hints of gay flag-ism.
    Shh... Much like the T-Rex if you don't move, they can't see you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piper View Post
    Dude, your immaturity is astounding me. You are in NO position to assume Bean is saying "He knows you". He never once stated that he KNOWS who you are, you're DOING that job for him by what you are TYPING. Also, you've assumed in an earlier post that I was being sensetive, when in fact -- I was not.

    Another thing: You are whining. Your sarcasm is showing your immaturity. If you truly wish to debate, saying "Shut up" or being sarcastic is exactly the OPPOSITE of that, because insults aren't tolerated.

    Now back on topic, you ARE sounding like someone who is caring about yourself, you remind me of a kid that would say "Mom! You gave him an extra chip more than me!". Your replies to mine have utterly shown nothing useful or anything that even back up your statements. All you seem to be doing is throwing a temper tantrum.

    The gay flag doesn't represent anything more than equality and pride. That is the source of its creation. I can PROMISE you that it was not invented to get "free stuff". Homosexuals NEVER claimed they are better than you, or that they deserve more, if you've come encountered one -- Then that's THEIR opinion, not homosexuality as a whole.

    Keep that in mind before you reply to me. Because honestly, I would rather debate with someone that actually comes off as an adult, than a child.
    Yeah, I'm done. I don't care any more. Apparently ya'll care more about talking about me than the topic. Peace out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faceless111 View Post
    Wow. This is vaguely about the gay flag anymore. It's more of a flame-a-thon with hints of gay flag-ism.
    What the hell is flag-ism? *lost*


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    Long story short:
    Flags that aren't used to separate distinction between states, provinces, and countries are pretty much useless.

    ESPECIALLY, ones simply declaring sexuality or race.
    The key to unity, integration, and general acceptance is to eliminate things like this. And "black history month". On that note, every month should be black history month, just like every month is white history month. Hell, throw in some japanese and hungarian if you want. Year round!

    Point is, the sooner we stop making separate months and flags and recognition, the sooner we can forget there was any division to begin with.
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    Bean let's not start throwing "homophobic" around, homophobia refers to a fear of homosexuals. You can be completely against their life choices or them having a flag and whatever without being homophobic...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightwing View Post
    Point is, the sooner we stop making separate months and flags and recognition, the sooner we can forget there was any division to begin with.
    Exactly, I agree 150.5%.

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    Well there seems to be a flag for everything, so whatever works do so I guess. Each of the "United States" have their own flag, yet are still considered a unified whole (for the most part). Symbolism is the key objective of the flag, when words aren't enough?...or something to that effect.
    Though, a rainbow wouldn't be my top choice to define any sort of issue, I of a marketing mind, would have suggested an unrelated, yet loveable Zeus like figure hurling down homosexual symbol lightning bolts. I'd like to see someone try and go against that flag.

    Also saying:
    "Maybe if you worked harder, or applied yourself more, you would have gotten your schollarship or a full scholarship, and you wouldn't have these issues against others getting scholarships. And those in the minority because of their race, sexual preferences, or background or for whatever reason, most likely work hard to get the chance to be elegible. Basically meaning they worked harder or they are smarter than you"

    Is a rather overly idealistic statement. I for one worked my behind off in school, did the whole community service, applied for many different ones, and still only received 1, not counting the standard University one. While others who did far less than I did, received far more scholarships because of certain "factors" and "natural" academic talent that allowed them to breeze by things that I had to work for. Oh it's so easy to get a full ride these days, we Americans who apply ourselves, must not be applying enough...curse our lack of effort.
    Hardwork is boiling down to a participation ribbon...sure you feel like you did something, but as hard as you tried you didn't really get that much...(or you really suck, which those ribbons usually are there for)
    Saying things such as whining Americans who complain about not receiving handouts, is far beyond a generalization...which does little to support an argument.
    If the world was perfect, everyone would have equal this and that, and I'd probably be going to any college of my choice...but as we all know its not. Homosexuals deal with it (their own unrelated issues), hard working yet not up to "top tier standards" Americans deal with it and so on and so on.
    I have no real problem with minorities, left handers or whomever receives "free" scholarships, but this whiny American hopes they are really using it wisely.
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    My dad makes fun of my dog being gay, something about a rainbow sticker on his dog house. :\
    OH WAIT-- Little girls like rainbows! Does this mean--?!
    --Nah, just messing around.
    Anyways, I'm neutral to this opinion.
    Sure it's stereotypical, but actually, some homosexuals are PROUD of it :\ I can't say anything, honestly. I will just keep my mouth shut for the time being.

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    Why cant we all just be one big happy family? Lets make a flag for humanity and all say, thats ours!

    In a way i like the gay flag becuse if i see one then i know im welcome there, but at the same time like others have said, it also adds division

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piper View Post
    Oh? So if you feel this way, you must also disagree with African Americans getting special scholarships as well. OH, and that NATIVE American Indians get a FULL-TUITION ride through college, just for being a native! You must not like that either.
    Not to turn this into a racial thing, but I fully disagree with affirmative action and feel people should be eligible by the quality of their work ethic and not by the color of their skin or where their parents came from. Yes, this does indeed extend to scholarships that are only available to people of a certain race, religion, sexual preference, gender, or other defining mark.

    Also, you know me and you know I support gay rights, but this makes it look like you're calling homosexuality a race which it is not. It is a sexual preference. There is a huge difference, and it was a poor choice of words to use in this argument.


    Also Bean, get off your supposed moral high horse. There is nothing in what he immediately said that would suggest he was whining about simply scholarships, Piper brought that issue to the forefront in an attempt to make him back down lest he be considered racist. You felt you should superimpose an "I'm a lazy American, the gays and the blacks are keeping me down!" over what he said, and that's just as ignorant as he's being. Affirmative Action helps people not based off of their income bracket, but their race. It was originally intended only for African-American students both as part of reparations for slavery and to compensate for the fact that most African-Americans applying at the time came from extremely low-income families. However, now it's been extended to other races, and those that benefited from Affirmative Action and could probably afford to send their descendants to college have children and even grandchildren benefiting from it when a student from a less financially secure Caucasian family would have a greater need for it. The "quota" system is racially divisive and breeds racism, the very thing it was intended to combat.

    I'm not saying that happens everywhere and to every white kid that doesn't make it, nor am I saying no black kids can make it to college on their own. What I'm saying is that by giving someone an advantage based on race, it not only makes the playing field highly unbalanced but cheapens the success of those people that would potentially benefit from it. Even if they earned it themselves, all it takes is one person to bring up affirmative action to cast a shadow of doubt on their achievements and not everyone can ignore something like that so easily.

    As for Zantetsuken, I'm not even going to bother. Bean and Piper I know will approach things rationally, but from what you've posted here you seem quite happy being ignorant and I am far from inclined to join the chorus of voices attempting to enlighten you. Some of what you've said is true about some individuals, but making broad sweeping statements about a group of people and believing them is what makes you a fool and anything you say immediately worthless in this discussion.

    EDIT: Forgot this one...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mini_Twilight View Post
    Bean let's not start throwing "homophobic" around, homophobia refers to a fear of homosexuals. You can be completely against their life choices or them having a flag and whatever without being homophobic...
    Agreed. Unfortunately, people that lack a strong argument hide behind certain buzzwords that accuse their opposite of having some fault or prejudice instead of offering a rebuttal.



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    For the record, I would be Pansexual. Someone, I believe Masali, linked the wikipedia entry for it, so I shouldn't have to do it again nor should I have to explain it.
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    i donno anything bout this flag thingy cause i ain't gay unlike you.....

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    Wth? Who said you have to be gay to know about the flag? I can't decide if you're being serious, or you're trying to tempt a flame war.
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    I am all for Gay Marraige and all, but a flag? COME ON! It's not a religion, race, country. It's a sexuality. It shouldn't even matter. It's no big deal. We ALL have our pleasures.

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