Gay marrige?

[smile1010]

The same thing heterosexual couple's do. They want to be just like everybody else. Meaning, they want to get married like straight couples do. And I don't suppose the circumstances of marriage should exclude them. Marriage is a declaration of love and unity. I'm sure that when people think about marriage, what comes to mind isn't who gets what when they divorce.

*hugs*Your right, like I said before those who love each other only have the right for marriage.
Love and unity should be the only reasons one gets married.

[Aulos]

You asked for it. I am against gay Marriage.
Legal marriage is a convenience pact specially designed for two different genders. Although not a lot of people agree with marriage as it is, they go for it anyway because it covers basic details of their convivance, during marriage and even after divorce. Stuff like "who gets the house","who keeps the children" etc. ect. Gay people don't need to get so complicated with these things.
And, in my opinion, they shouldn't be allowed to adopt children either. Many people become gay AFTER a heterosexual marriage and children; the way they walk off from their duties as men/women is plain repulsive, just to go out and satisfy their sexual needs.
Tell me, what do gay people seek out of marriage anyway?

Many become gay after a heterosexual marriage? What are you talking about? Back up your claim.

Gays are people, too.

[smile1010]

Many become gay after a heterosexual marriage? What are you talking about? Back up your claim.

Gays are people, too.

Seriously, gay man become gay after an abusing life and living with a single mother, not all but this is most of the stories behind a gay man
Vise versa with a women.

[Tempest Wind]

I actually couldnt care less about gay marriage. If gay people want to get married, adopt a kid, and be miserable like all other married couples, then why not let them??

[Masali]

As Rayne from www.leasticoulddo.com has said so well "It is out of my cone of caring" being that it does not affect me directly, so I do not care about it.

[DOOM!]

Every american has the right to Life, Liberty, and Property.(I think) but anyway...if you goal in life is to marry some one of the same sex than that is your LIFE. Also if you think its wrong for gays to get married...thats an opionion...and if you only have rude comments to back up your opionion ...keep it to yourself.

You can keep YOUR post to yourself, thank you. By the way, could you quit it with the Screaming Colors? They are SO FRIGGIN difficult to read on my Uber Pink Theme.

Seriously, gay man become gay after an abusing life and living with a single mother, not all but this is most of the stories behind a gay man

Vise versa with a women.

I've had a difficult life too. I have been abused in all ways but sexual. And even if i were, if you follow my logic, why would i want to have sex with men after being raped by one? I would get over it and stand against (homosexual/) rapists.

Many become gay after a heterosexual marriage? What are you talking about? Back up your claim.



Gays are people, too.

Is there somewhere i have disagreed with gay people's human rights, marriage expelled? I don't think so.

And in case your dictionary is poor, and you haven't been around the block, imagine this: You're ten years younger, and sudently, your father dumps you and your mother/brother/dog/stupid baseball equipment/etc because he either doesn't get along with your mom, or thinks he's still an irresponsable teenager who likes pretty men.

The same thing heterosexual couple's do. They want to be just like everybody else. Meaning, they want to get married like straight couples do. And I don't suppose the circumstances of marriage should exclude them. Marriage is a declaration of love and unity. I'm sure that when people think about marriage, what comes to mind isn't who gets what when they divorce.

Well, they can't be like everybody else when they wish to be different (this has already been sayed). And why get married "just because"? Heterosexual couples have reasons and needs in marriage, gay people don't. The circumstances of marriage had better exclude them, or else, everything will get screwed up, especially for straight marriages. Unless they want to totally change the constitution of marriage, by screwing up even more, then it'd be like craving something different when all they wanted was to be treated the same.
There are many other ways of declaring love; legally is not the best of them. Marriage isn't only based on love and sex.

I'm sure that when people think about marriage, what comes to mind isn't who gets what when they divorce.

Many people have inconvenient marriages with rich people to get something off their backs. Just look at today's celebrities; Ana Nicole Smith, for instance. etc, etc, etc...

[Overlord Darth Fluffles]

My question is, "Why does society have to sink so low into getting in the ways of peoples sexual orientation?"

Why does it bugt people so much? Insecuirty? Fear? Jealousy?

In my own view, I don't really care. People like who/what they like. I'm all for it. I say allow them. A man awith a man or woman with a woman is just as cute as a man with a woman. This can be marked as one of the many reasons why I hate society.

[Ami~chan]

This thread is going to be closed soon if people don't cease to be childish. No flaming. It's in the rules.

Seriously, gay man become gay after an abusing life and living with a single mother, not all but this is most of the stories behind a gay man

Vise versa with a women.

Not really. I was abused as a child in every way possible, and I'm not gay. I'm in a relationship with someone of the opposite sex, and it's been a wonderful relationship that has lasted for quite a few years now.

And do you have a link or article of some sort that backs this claim up? We'd love it see it.

[Masali]

Seriously, gay man become gay after an abusing life and living with a single mother, not all but this is most of the stories behind a gay man

Vise versa with a women.

Wouldn't that, in theory, make you gay?

[Aulos]

Is there somewhere i have disagreed with gay people's human rights, marriage expelled? I don't think so.

And in case you dictionary is poor, and you haven't been around the block, immagine this: You're ten years younger, and sudently, your father dumps you and your mother/brother/dog/stupid baseball equipment/etc because he either doesn't get aong with your mom, or thinks he's still an irresponsable teenager who likes pretty men.

"you dictionary" "immagine" "sudently" "aong"

My dictionary is poor?

Meh, enough of that, though!

I've never heard of anybody dumping their wife because they became gay after they become married. >_> I've always thought being gay was a natural thing that really can't be controlled.

[Erikai]

I am gay, so my vote would be yes. If I marry a girl it's my problem not yours. We like it plain and simple, most gay couples who get married don't divorce unless something really bad happenes, and I mean really bad.

Most gay couples raise normal children, for the simple fact that we love our family and we don't want to see them get hurt. Most gays raise children of a different sex, because most gays were hurt by the different sex, like me. I for one have a girlfirend in real life and I told her I wanted to raise a son, to teach him how to treat women, with respect, and if he don't I'll beat his butt, because I would know I told him better then that!

I don't hate guys, it's just most guys in the world have this thing about having as many girls as they can only dream of having.

I'm sorry for having to pull out the "trump card," but gay people want what other person have, a house and someone to love. If you can't understand that, then that's your problem don't get angry at something you don't understand.

So anytime you see a two gay guys and they have a daughter, two gay girls and they have a son, or a all same sex family cover the eyes of your children if you want them or you to face life not knowing things, or you can do better and tell them to treat the other sex with respect and love as they want.

You asked for it. I am against gay Marriage.
Legal marriage is a convenience pact specially designed for two different genders. Although not a lot of people agree with marriage as it is, they go for it anyway because it covers basic details of their convivance, during marriage and even after divorce. Stuff like "who gets the house","who keeps the children" etc. ect. Gay people don't need to get so complicated with these things.
And, in my opinion, they shouldn't be allowed to adopt children either. Many people become gay AFTER a heterosexual marriage and children; the way they walk off from their duties as men/women is plain repulsive, just to go out and satisfy their sexual needs.
Tell me, what do gay people seek out of marriage anyway?

[genericusername2]

Yes, there is a problem here. There are several problems.

I have nothing against gay people. I am by no means afraid of or intimidated by them, nor have I any problem with their existence. I do rather have something of a problem with people who think they deserve special privileges because of their sexual preference, or who think it's their right to express homosexuality in public making a scene everywhere they go just to express their rights.

Most people that are in favor of it will just something like 'it won't hurt anyone, there is no wrong in making it legal, they are just being ignorant. that's why they aren't legalizing it.' But that's not true if gay marriages become legal they will need to legalize a lot of other laws.

I personally am more skeptical about interreligious marriage than same sex marriage. Not that I condemn it or anything, I just think it would be difficult for myself if I belonged to an interreligious couple to decide which religion to raise their children if they plan to have any (although if the mother is Jewish, technically, the children are, too). In other words, I wouldn't do it, but I wouldn't tell people not to do it, either. It's their decision, not mine.

Many right-wing commentators think the sole purpose of marriage is to have babies. If that's the case, shouldn't dating relationships be wrong, too? What about couples who never have children anyway?

Also, homophobia.. It annoys me a lot although I find it hard to see why people can criticize people who are homophobic, it's like a bungee jumper wondering why others are afraid of heights, a person who is not homophobic cannot comprehend what goes on in the head of a homophobic. However, I think those who take homophobia into action should all be lined up and shot. I don't mean heterosexist which is the discrimination of gays and lesbians by straight people. It's a common misconception. There's a hell of a lot of girls/young women out there who claim to be bisexual because they kissed their girlfriends while drunk at a party, or because they think Christina Aguilera looked hot in her latest music video, or simply just for attention or to make them seem 'different' or 'cool.'

I am getting annoyed with the gay marriage issue. It constantly dominates the news, and seems to be a main issue in politics (in Canada at least). And you ask why it is still illegal...

The majority of people don't care whether someone is gay or not. But like I said, I do rather have a problem with people who think they deserve special privileges because of their sexual preference, or who think it's their duty to flaunt homosexuality in public making a scene everywhere they go just to express their rights.

[Ayame_Sohma]

I support gay marriages and i think its great step forward that gays can get marriage now.

I dont see a problem with it at all...they love each other and wanna share everything with each other..So why not?

And also i think gays couple can be great parents just like straight couples..i think its unfair that they are not allowed to adopt children just became they are gay.

[Ami~chan]

Yes, there is a problem here. There are several problems.

I have nothing against gay people. I am by no means afraid of or intimidated by them, nor have I any problem with their existence. I do rather have something of a problem with people who think they deserve special privileges because of their sexual preference, or who think it's their right to express homosexuality in public making a scene everywhere they go just to express their rights.

Special privilege? Since when is marriage a special priviledge? Straight people get married all the time! If gay people wanted the right to murder someone and get away with it, THEN it would be a special priviledge. But marriage is not.

Making a scene? It's called taking a stand. When the African Americans didn't have equal rights, they did the same damn thing. They "made a scene", they got the word out they were tired of being subordinate. Gay people just want the right to be married, and when they're married, share the same rights as any other married couple.

[smile1010]

Wouldn't that, in theory, make you gay?

In theory yes.

[Ollie]

And, in my opinion, they shouldn't be allowed to adopt children either. Many people become gay AFTER a heterosexual marriage and children; the way they walk off from their duties as men/women is plain repulsive, just to go out and satisfy their sexual needs.

Am I the only person who was completely confused by it? It's like McDoom is talking about two different things. Gay couples shouldn't be allowed to adopt because... one of the parents must have left his wife/her husband to have a family with someone of the same gender?

By the way. They don't "become" gay. They simply come to terms with the fact that they are gay. No, it wasn't right for those people to marry and have kids because they could not accept or didn't fully realize their sexual orientations, but it's no less right that they felt forced to be "normal" and go into that marriage in the first place.

You can't wake up one morning and suddenly start lusting after anything that moves and has the same private parts as you, when you never did before. Homosexuality is nothing new, and it's not on the increase. It's always existed, just was never accepted or tolerated until the last few decades.

[UrusaiSevera]

I have no problems with it... let them do what they want to do... >>

 

As long as they don't rub it in my face xD

[Anpan Hayase]

I support gay marriages. I mean, last time I checked gay people can love too...They can, right? Honestly, denying gay people marriage KINDA' feels like you're insulting them as a human and telling them that's good enough, and while people LIKE to judge, they shouldn't. Gay people deserve just as much as the next person.

Took the words outta meh mouth.

[DOOM!]

Oh, so many people want a piece of Dr.McDoom. It's been 30 minutes and i have been quoted like... 30 times? One last quote now, and i'm gone to sleep safe and assured. Y'know, instead of uselessly debating about crap wich most people don't care about, you could do like me and go f*****g work for 10 hours tomorrow morning.
Ok, one more time:

By the way. They don't "become" gay. They simply come to terms with the fact that they are gay.

Oh yes, they come to realise they were BORN gay all along..... right after being sexually molested of course; or never being capable to sustain a straight relationship because they were too shy; or being raised and educated in a homosexual family; etc
And still, don't you think you should've realised that BEFORE you got married and/or had children?

[smile1010]

And do you have a link or article of some sort that backs this claim up? We'd love it see it.

What Causes a Person To Have a Particular Sexual Orientation?
There are numerous theories about the origins of a person's sexual orientation; most scientists today agree that sexual orientation is most likely the result of a complex interaction of environmental, cognitive and biological factors. In most people, sexual orientation is shaped at an early age. There is also considerable recent evidence to suggest that biology, including genetic or inborn hormonal factors, play a significant role in a person's sexuality. In summary, it is important to recognize that there are probably many reasons for a person's sexual orientation and the reasons may be different for different people.

http://www.apa.org/topics/orientation.html#whatcauses


Doesn't quite say but lets just assume

[DeathGoddessMali]

I am gay, so my vote would be yes. If I marry a girl it's my problem not yours. We like it plain and simple, most gay couples who get married don't divorce unless something really bad happenes, and I mean really bad.

Most gay couples raise normal children, for the simple fact that we love our family and we don't want to see them get hurt. Most gays raise children of a different sex, because most gays were hurt by the different sex, like me. I for one have a girlfirend in real life and I told her I wanted to raise a son, to teach him how to treat women, with respect, and if he don't I'll beat his butt, because I would know I told him better then that!

I don't hate guys, it's just most guys in the world have this thing about having as many girls as they can only dream of having.

I'm sorry for having to pull out the "trump card," but gay people want what other person have, a house and someone to love. If you can't understand that, then that's your problem don't get angry at something you don't understand.

So anytime you see a two gay guys and they have a daughter, two gay girls and they have a son, or a all same sex family cover the eyes of your children if you want them or you to face life not knowing things, or you can do better and tell them to treat the other sex with respect and love as they want.

I totally respect wat you say.

[Lavos]

I figure if two people love each other and want to get married, who am I to stop them. Sure marriage in a church could be considered a religious thing, and blah blah blah, but when has the church ever been with the times in all aspects of life.

I just don't get why the Bible is an excuse to keep two people who love each other from getting tax benefits and stuff. Run with this for a second. If there is a God, and he did create us, why would he create homosexuality? I really doubt he created them for the sole purpose of something to pick on.

Look at things historically. Predjudice has always been there. Nobles vs peasants. Women vs. men. African Americans striving for equal rights. Women's suffrage. It is only a matter of time until they are able to get married. Wish we could have a count down clock for it.

[Charmmy]

In all honesty, marriage isn't that religious anymore in my opinion. People are bias towards gay marriage, however, because it goes against "normal society." If marriage was still something holy and religious, with a church and stuff, would people still have five minute, or so, weddings in Vegas? The reality of it is that marriage really isn't something to put high up on a pedestal or whatever.

People should have a right to spend their life with whoever they so choose. I remember in class once that my teacher said marriage's soul purpose was for reproduction and that a marriage could always be annulled if the couple never had their "honeymoon." True, homosexuals can't necessarily reproduce together, but they can always adopt and nurture children as well as have a "honeymoon." After all, heterosexuals have children "accidentally" and go for adoption-- so other heterosexuals or homosexuals would be able to adopt and care for them. Also, there are infertile heterosexual couples which have the same reproduction issues as homosexual couples.

I support gay marriage because I believe everyone has the right to fall in love and to choose to stay with that person, regardless of gender, through legal binds.

[kenny_killer]

I see few if anything wrong with homosexuality at all morally. I mean there’s the inability to reproduce but I don’t think that’s a problem present day. In fact its the very opposite, there’s to many of us. I think we could use a couple of homosexual marriages approved by the government [or not]. I hear all the time that many of them adopt orphans. and as in any family, they'd be able to support each other legally, socially and economically. homosexuals are people to, apart of our states, countries, apart of our world. The idea of taking there right to marry is simply appalling and quite frankly stupid.

[Kitanoru]

In my opinion I believe that gay marriage is perfectly acceptable! I have family members that are gay, and they are great people to be around! I know a few people here on AF too, and they too, are amazing people! As long as both individuals love each other, I see nothing wrong with the relationship, whether it be gay or straight.