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    Regarding the Trailers:

    This is the place where my evil plans of not watching TV really come into fruition. I've seen a theatrical trailer and that's it.
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    I can't remember when it's coming out here but there are already a lot of previews around.

    From the crappy little trailers on ITV1 it does look pretty interesting. I've never been that much of a Spiderman fan (and you can sue me for that if you want) but even I can admit the third movie is looking good even if a guy from the '70's Show is playing Venom.

    To be honest, who cares? They probably couldn't find anyone else to do it and of course you can get the whole CGI thing where they could have CGI'd muscles on him, but I don't think they did that, did they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac View Post
    To be honest, who cares? They probably couldn't find anyone else to do it and of course you can get the whole CGI thing where they could have CGI'd muscles on him, but I don't think they did that, did they?
    Actually I think Brock Lesnar would make a fantastic Venom. He was a pro wrestler so that automatically means he's an actor. He has the build I would expect from Venom. By the way, the suit doesn't give him the muscles. Eddie Brock is really huge. The fight scenes would be better because he can really lift Spidey and throw him around without special effects.

    I don't see a problem with Spiderman having multiple villains. When has Spiderman ever had the luxury of facing just one problem at a time? He's always fighting at least 2 villains a day while working on relationship issues with MJ, study for a final/midterm and writing a 40 page report on nuclear physics.

    To me that''s pert of his appeal. He faces these incredible challenges from villains and everyday life. Just like me.

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    anyway, how many people with natural superpower are in this movie??

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    I'm surprised about that too. But the first 2 movies were good so I'll trust that this will be good as well.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugetsu View Post
    Actually I think Brock Lesnar would make a fantastic Venom. He was a pro wrestler so that automatically means he's an actor. He has the build I would expect from Venom.
    Oh crap, NOW I remember him. Yeah, just have him grow his hair out a bit and he'd make a great eddie. He's even got a good voice for it.

    By the way, the suit doesn't give him the muscles. Eddie Brock is really huge. The fight scenes would be better because he can really lift Spidey and throw him around without special effects
    The symbiote CAN increase it's own size however. In one issue Venom and Carnage were the size of Sky Scrapers fighting Godzilla style in new york.

    I don't see a problem with Spiderman having multiple villains. When has Spiderman ever had the luxury of facing just one problem at a time?
    Before he was Spider-Man...Then he just had the Nerd problem >_>

    He's always fighting at least 2 villains a day while working on relationship issues with MJ, study for a final/midterm and writing a 40 page report on nuclear physics.
    Replace studying for finals/midterms and writing 40 page reports on nuclear physics to "Grading finals/midterms and grading 40 page reports on nuclear physics"

    anyway, how many people with natural superpower are in this movie??
    Natural powers? None of them.
    Spider-Man was bitten by a radioactive spider...Which we learned later it was actually a MAGICAL spider that passed it's spider powers onto someone before the radiation killed it. (Making Spider-Man a totemic)

    Eddie Brock: The symbiote has natural power, but eddie himself doesn't. This could be a toss up. Then again, the symbiote releases it's strongest powers when it's attached to a host...Symbiotes, serious buisness O_o

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Deadpool- View Post
    Oh crap, NOW I remember him. Yeah, just have him grow his hair out a bit and he'd make a great eddie. He's even got a good voice for it.

    I know. It's perfect. Why didn't they think of this?!?!?!?!

    The symbiote CAN increase it's own size however. In one issue Venom and Carnage were the size of Sky Scrapers fighting Godzilla style in new york.

    By huge I meant all of the bulging bicepts & muscles. The symbiote will automatically make the user stronger but the stronger the user already is, the stronger the symbiote makes them. Thats why Eddie was always working out.

    Replace studying for finals/midterms and writing 40 page reports on nuclear physics to "Grading finals/midterms and grading 40 page reports on nuclear physics"

    I mostly read Spiderman during his student/teachers assistant phase. I honestly have not read an issue in years. Does he still freelance for th Bugle?

    Natural powers? None of them.
    Spider-Man was bitten by a radioactive spider...Which we learned later it was actually a MAGICAL spider that passed it's spider powers onto someone before the radiation killed it. (Making Spider-Man a totemic)

    Eddie Brock: The symbiote has natural power, but eddie himself doesn't. This could be a toss up. Then again, the symbiote releases it's strongest powers when it's attached to a host...Symbiotes, serious buisness O_o

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    Goblin: Sciene

    If they want "natural powers" then they have to watch X-Men or something
    I was hoping they would use Kingpin, but they ruined that with the Daredevil movie. God that movie sucked. I just couldn't see past the fact that it was one half of Beniffer (Ben Afleck???) that was playing one of my favorite heroes.

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    http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/spiderman_3/

    Woooow. This actually dissapoints as the first two were rated 90+.

    I mostly read Spiderman during his student/teachers assistant phase. I honestly have not read an issue in years. Does he still freelance for th Bugle?
    No. He actually outed himself as Spider-Man. Jameson fired him, and sued him for a butt ton of money.
    Reason for outing himself?

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    thanx 4 the information, deadpool

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    Wait...Wolverine is an Avenger!?!?!?!? WTF!!!

    Thats why I stopped trying to keep up with comics. Way too much going on. Everything crosses over with everything else. I think thats great, but I don't have enough money to keep up lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugetsu View Post
    Wait...Wolverine is an Avenger!?!?!?!? WTF!!!

    Thats why I stopped trying to keep up with comics. Way too much going on. Everything crosses over with everything else. I think thats great, but I don't have enough money to keep up lol
    Actually, no.
    Not everything crosses over into everything else (Except during events, which only last about 5-8 issues) that often.
    It's just Wolverine. He has a new mutant power that manifested when his sales increased. Allow me to explain,

    Wolverines new power is called "Omnipresent super immunity to everything"
    Wolverine now has the power to be everywhere, at any time, and be in more than one place at one time. He also has the ability to fight for every side at the same exact time, while never having to fight himself, but having to fight his allies who don't recall fighting him to begin with in the next issue.
    Also, Wolverine is immune to the law. He can threaten the president, saughter a small middle eastern country, molest power pack, eat another human being in times square in broad daylight, and destroy 101 shield bases across the planet...All before breakfast...And no one says anything. Because he's Wolverine, who's plot armor is bigger than Supermans. (Guess what? Wolverine can now regenerate his entire body from ONE cell and ONLY one cell, in a short period of time).
    Theres another rule about wolverine.
    He may NOT under ANY circumstances go MORE then THREE panels without being filled with at least 57 bullet holes and must have a shreaded uniform by the end of every other issue.
    He must also say "Bub" before, during, and after every sentance. The only time this doesn't apply is when he gives a speech about how he's the best at what he does and what he does isn't very nice.

    Wolverine: More broken and plot armored than Batman with prep-time.

    Anyway, the score is even worse than it was last night.
    The movie droped from 71/100 to 64/100 over night O_o. Thats bad, because the Hulk move was a 60.

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    I just saw it. It's great for none of the reasons it SHOULD be great.

    Topher Grace as Eddie Brock: This was REALLY unexpected, but to be honest he doesn't do all that bad of a job being a bit of an jerk like pre-Lethal Protector Eddie.

    My only problem with this bit of casting? He's basically playing the Star Trek Evil Dimension version of Eric Foreman. VERY similar speech pattern, but then again, it's Topher Grace. They bulk him up a bit as Venom, and he has what is perhaps the best line of the movie:

     
    When Spider-Man tries to reason with Eddie in an attempt to get him to remove the symbiote because it drives you to do bad, he responds in a warm, fuzzy tone, "I like being bad. It makes me happy."


    I dunno if that's really spoiler-worthy, but just in case.

    Also, Brock Lesnar wouldn't make a good Eddie Brock at this stage in his life in my opinion. I just don't see him as a journalist-type. He's a little TOO big for pre-Venom Eddie. Sure he was athletic before, but the symbiote enhanced that to Lesnarian(?) proportions. Only after that did his regular body really catch up to it.


    Venom/Symbiote in General: Hmm, this one, I gotta say both made me happy and annoyed me. You see, on the one hand, the changes were both dramatic and awesome on Peter. You REALLY need to see the movie for just that, because it's honestly some of the greatest footage put to film. I refuse to spoil it in this thread.

    However, one MAJOR MAJOR GRIPE I had as a fanboy is
     
    THE SYMBIOTE IS NOT A SUIT ON ITS OWN, WHY THE HELL CAN HE TAKE IT OFF AND STICK IT IN A TRUNK?! This really screws up the plot when he's fighting to remove it in the bell tower, because THEN it decides to act like it's supposed to and just not come off.


    As for Venom, I have no major gripes about Venom all in all, he's a bit more realistic than the comic book version in terms of size compared to a normal human, but I'll admit I do miss the hugeness a little. =/ This isn't to say he doesn't bulk up, but still...

    Also, I don't mind this but some people might,
     
    Eddie keeps the teeth, even when he's showing his own face.



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    New Goblin: I liked him, personally. He's a royal pain, and you really end up cheering when he gets his butt handed to him as eventually all villains do.

     
    However, he's also good after his redemption, which shouldn't be such a grand surprise to comic book fans since for a while he WAS a good guy.



    BRUCE CAMPBELL: Freaking hilarious, as usual.


    Overall, on a scale of 0.00 to 10.00, I would give this a 7.45 looking at it from the perspective of a critic. I enjoyed it, but found myself laughing at stupid crap and captivated by the fight scenes, which in a movie that clocks in at about 150 minutes should really have been more frequent.

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    THERE IS TOO MUCH MARY JANE AND EMO PARKER! It's unfortunately necessary as it sets up the awesomeness in the movie like the Jazz Club scene, but at the same time it's like sitting through Lord of the Rings. Sure, the good scenes are good, and the slow scenes are needed to set up the good scenes, but at the end of the day your butt's still asleep.

    I couldn't help but think of the widely-used image macro of a kid sitting off by himself away from a group of kids with the text "I'm gonna go listen to Linkin Park" on it, only it's Peter saying "I'm gonna go wear the black suit."



    Personally though, I give it a 9.75. I thought it was an awesome movie, and would go see it again, even though there were a few things about it I couldn't help but notice were totally inconsistent. Meh, that's just me though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Deadpool- View Post
    Actually, no.
    Not everything crosses over into everything else (Except during events, which only last about 5-8 issues) that often.
    But these events occur at least once a month lol. I hated having to buy a book I normally didn't read in order to find out about the characters I actually care about. Can you imagine how mad I was when I had to actually buy a Cloak & Dagger book because it crossed into Maximum Carnage??? Plus I used to read a lot of different titles so while the major cross overs didn't bother me as much, the minor ones were really annoying.

    It's just Wolverine. He has a new mutant power that manifested when his sales increased. Allow me to explain,

    Wolverines new power is called "Omnipresent super immunity to everything"
    Wolverine now has the power to be everywhere, at any time, and be in more than one place at one time. He also has the ability to fight for every side at the same exact time, while never having to fight himself, but having to fight his allies who don't recall fighting him to begin with in the next issue.
    Also, Wolverine is immune to the law. He can threaten the president, saughter a small middle eastern country, molest power pack, eat another human being in times square in broad daylight, and destroy 101 shield bases across the planet...All before breakfast...And no one says anything. Because he's Wolverine, who's plot armor is bigger than Supermans. (Guess what? Wolverine can now regenerate his entire body from ONE cell and ONLY one cell, in a short period of time).
    Theres another rule about wolverine.
    He may NOT under ANY circumstances go MORE then THREE panels without being filled with at least 57 bullet holes and must have a shreaded uniform by the end of every other issue.
    He must also say "Bub" before, during, and after every sentance. The only time this doesn't apply is when he gives a speech about how he's the best at what he does and what he does isn't very nice.

    Wolverine: More broken and plot armored than Batman with prep-time.
    These aren't really new powers from him. At one point he was able to actually recreate his entire existance by using a miniture, accelerated big bang. I could never understand why one character (Batman & Spiderman included) need about 7 different books/titles.

    Greedy bastards.

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    It was a good movie... if you're going just for the action, fights and explosions. Sanosuke23 beat me with the opinions. Topher Grace did a good job being an annoying jerk, kudos for him xD

     
    But I am mad because there wasn't enough Venom (IMO) and too much Mary Jane and Peter drama! >_< Dear God!


    They probably couldn't find anyone else to do it and of course you can get the whole CGI thing where they could have CGI'd muscles on him, but I don't think they did that, did they?
    They did, but we have been seing this since Spiderman 1

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    I'm excited to see it. The first and second movie were good. Hopefully I'll be able to follow along ok.

    I'm either seeing it tomorrow or Sunday. Either way, the theaters will probably be packed for the next week or so.

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    I just got back from seeing it.

    I give it a 7.5 out of 10. The following may contain spoilers, skip my post if you don't want them.

     
    In all honesty...Venom was a terrible addition to the movie.
    Either Venom or Sandman should have been dropped completly.
    My gripe with Venom, that proves Raimi knows nothing about the character...He kept saying "I" or "Me" or "I am", when he should have been refering to him and venom as one person. Venom has always spoken as if he and the symbiote were two diffrent entities, while at the same time one ( "We are", "We" "Us"), In ALL media... The comics, video games, and that low quality yet fun cartoon.
    Venom was so far out of character it was sickening. Venom only wants to kill Spider-Man and villians, not innocents (In this case MJ). That should have been Carnage at the constuction site with that attitude, not eddie.
    Out of character villian is out of character.

    New goblin...What? It's the Green Goblin II Raimi.
    Personally, aside from the costume, I just didn't like him. He didn't act...well...crazy enough. He just seemed angry. No sinister cackle, no dark voice...It was just an angry harry in a costume.

    Sandman...I liked Sandman. Honestly, this movie would have been a lot better if it focused on Sandman, with a little, ONLY a little harry on the side. He was similar to the comics, pretty close to actual character as well (Except he wasn't the one who murderd uncle ben)

    That takes care of villians. next...

    As Sanosuke said in his spoiler tags.

    The Symbiote is NOT it's own suit. It BONDS with the host. He can't take it off.

    now one other thing that annoyed me.

    The freaking love triangle.
    Gwen Stacey is SUPPOSED to be Peter Parkers first, greatest, and true love. Not MJ. Grant it, I can let that go...Most of todays younger readers will be like "Gwen who?". But...She was nothing more than a throw away character to drive the plot and introduce venom/cause problems with MJ. THAT annoyed me..
    And the constant MJ/Peter drama was too annoying. And if you ask me, MJ's character throughout the entire movie was a whiny little witch.
    Boo whoo, a critic gave you a bad review. Peter tries to cheer you up "LAWL CRY CRY REJECTION!". Good work. He gave you fair warning that his life as Spider-Man would be a hinderance on your relastionship.
    the entire love triangle was an over emotional baaaaawwwwwwfest.

    Also...The fight scene at the movies climax was...Well...Boring to watch. It was mostly peter just getting his butt handed to him untill harry came by to save him.

    Sadly, I had high hopes. The first movie was great, the second movie? Absolutly amazing, groundbreaking in comic book to movie adaptations. What happned here? the quality dropped down a few pegs above Hulk.
    It was a good movie, but watching it didn't give me that "Summer Blockbuster" feeling I got from Spider-Man 2, or Batman Begins. It also failed to give me the feeling that I was watching Spider-Man. The last two movies made it feel like I was watching SPIDER-MAN. This movie failed to do so.
    It was good. Not Amazing, Not Sensational, not even Friendly Neighborhood...Not even GREAT. Just...Good.

    Spider-Man 2 is by far the better film of the three in my opinion. And Doc Oct was in CHARACTER (save the last few minutes) in 2. Norman? He was in character as Green Goblin....Sandman was even in character to an extent.

    So, what Hampered this movie?
    -Too many places at one time
    -One too many villians
    -Out of character everyone important (Excluding JJ Jameson, he was still awsome) at some point more than they should have been.
    -Peter was out of costume more-so than in
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    I don't care for this movie. Just another one I'll watch when it hits dvd.



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    I thought the movie was very good but not great. I don't think it lived up to the first two movies. It had some of the same flaws as X-Men 3. I felt the stories were rushed, did not have good conflict resolution, some fights had bad camera angles, and some plot holes. I think it could have been two, hell, maybe even three movies if they wanted to. I think they put too much into this movie. Though it did a better job of fitting things than the two Batman movies before Batman Begins.

    I think Brock Lesnar would have been the PERFECT Eddie Brock. They look EXACTLY alike. I also think they made the character very whimpy and lacked integrity. Well the comic book Eddie was no saint but he had some integrity and he did not fight Spidey as something as trivial as revenge and thought he was protecting the people. Venom not referring to himself as "we," wasn't that much of a big deal to me but I was cool with it.

    I would talk about the flaws of this movie but I don't want to spoil it.

    Overall, I'd compare my feelings to when I saw King Kong. People were hyping it like crazy and giving it high reviews and regards but I just don't think it lived up to that.

    My tip is try not to have VERY HIGH expectations of the movie.

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    The film has been getting alot of bad mouth, I saw it on friday and really enjoyed the movie but it is differen't from the other two.They don't exactly feel connected, like this film just went a little bit too far away from the path of spidey 1 and 2 but it does have cool special effects and a scene with sandman that is just amazing.But I hope that it will still do well, even though it is getting all these mixed reviews and I think there is hope because pirates 2 got alot of bad reviews.And I think pirates 2 deserved those, because it had so many problems and all but that films still did huge and spiderman 3 will most likely be the same.I still say everyone should go see the movie, don't be mad if your dissapointed like alot of people and I just enjoyed it alot because I love the spidey movies.
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    jz bought the DVD. watching it soon

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    I'll say it bluntly:

    Since when was Spiderman the fifth member of Fallout Boy?

    Also, there will be no more Spiderman movies. Not because it was lameish, but because if Tobey Maguire's head grows any larger, he will be limited to playing the Blob. I mean... did anyone see any of the close-up shots from any angle except full-front???

    And I agree with Deadpool on all points.
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    I still think Sandman was a pretty...bland villain, and how he resolved was so lame it spoiled the whole character. I do agree about the plural vs. singular thing though, it sucks horribly that for some reason Eddie was an individual while in full-on Venom mode. Everyone in that movie is emo though, so I suppose Eddie's MASSIVE emo ego ate the symbiote's self-awareness.

    Though to be fair, Venom at creation would have put innocents in danger if it meant getting to kill Spidey. It was only after that(I believe post-Carnage, after he saw what he was doing and was like "Whoa buddy.") he started going the Lethal Protector route.

    Speaking of, I think I would go see a Venom movie, if they did it right. The only problem being continuity, because as I said at this point Venom's still more obsessed with vengeance than right and wrong. If they skipped ahead a bit not only could whoever did it make a decent story around Venom, then all you people going "ZOMG Brock Lesnar shud b venum even though he's wrestling in Japan right now" could maybe get your wish.


    Personally, I still think he'd be a retarded choice, and you're all looking at size. He is NOT an Eddie Brock personality. Heck, he's not even a Venom personality. The only character he knows how to play is "Grr! I am a large and muscular man! Don't mess with me!" He couldn't believably pull of the lines they give Venom, where he's cheerfully describing how he's going to punish the criminals he battles or even just being Venom. Also, Eddie's a more or less nice guy, and a mind apart from Venom. He's still connected to the symbiote, but he still has his own thoughts and desires, even his own friends. Brock Lesnar is far too two-dimensional to pull that off, in my opinion.


    So please, if ANYONE can tell me WHY Brock Lesnar should be Venom aside from size, enlighten me.



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    Like all the head trauma, and
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    i've watch this movie... when there is part where peter & mary jane, it will be very boring... i nearly fall asleep... the action is too short... other than that, the movie is great... the new goblin died... that's so sad (he's cute when he smiles)... the ending should be spiderman help sandman's child.. then the movie will be better...

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    Quote Originally Posted by izzy14backstabber View Post
     
    i've watch this movie... when there is part where peter & mary jane, it will be very boring... i nearly fall asleep... the action is too short... other than that, the movie is great... the new goblin died... that's so sad (he's cute when he smiles)... the ending should be spiderman help sandman's child.. then the movie will be better...
    Spoiler tags, they save movie plots.

    So please, if ANYONE can tell me WHY Brock Lesnar should be Venom aside from size, enlighten me.
    He has the voice for it. Also.
    Wrestling = Fake
    Fake = Wrestler
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    Plus, Lesnar kinda looks like a few incarnations of Brock.
    And heck, I would have been happy if they got someone Lesnars size to just wear the suit and have Topher voice over (Worked for Darth Vader)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000 View Post
    Also, there will be no more Spiderman movies. Not because it was lameish, but because if Tobey Maguire's head grows any larger, he will be limited to playing the Blob. I mean... did anyone see any of the close-up shots from any angle except full-front???
    Except that they've already announced a 4th. Rumors say a 5th and 6th as well.


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