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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengin-san View Post
    Why bring another homeless, depressed child into the world? I think it hurts more for a little baby to grow up not knowing their parents, then coming into the world. What if a 15 year-old girl gets kid-napped and raped? Was that her fault? I think not. It's awful to force a teenager to have a baby, when she isn't ready. Besides, the baby will come out most likely premature, or have many other birth defects.
    I totaly agree a child does <U> not </u> deserve to suffer.
    Then again that <U> would be murder and the parents if they adopt </u> should <B> all ways </b> keep in contact with thier child and explain why they couldn't keep the child.
    It really is the parents decision.
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    this is what I think...
    Why do an abortion if you don't want the child? Just have the child, and put it up for adoption. There ya go, that's all you have to do.

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    OK. I am an unwed father. I am 22 years old, college educated, have a job and a girlfriend for the past 5 years (the mother of my child). My daughter is nearly 2. When my girlfriend told me we were going to be parents. I was naturally shocked. We felt we weren't ready to be parents. My parents were close to my age when they first got married and had my sister who is now 30. I'm not sure if they were ready either. My girlfriend and I have been in a committed relationship but were not sure about marriage yet, but being parents just came into our lives first. We decided it because we thought that things would just naturally work out and knew we were getting ourselves into, but we had to get ready.

    Being a single parent or a parent in general is tough. Yes, my girlfriend helps me and we do things like a married couple. Being a parent is one of the best things that has ever happened to me in my life. Sure it came way too early for me but it was time I had to be responsible. My girlfriend and I just figured, we didn't choose to be born (from what we know =P) and just thought it wouldn't be fair to give our own kid a life regardless of how we provide for it. All we could do was our best.

    If my girlfriend asked for an abortion, we'd talk it out. If that's what she would have wanted, I would support her and give her the help she needs after she went through the procedure. Even though I morally don't agree with abortion to some extent, I have to respect that she is the one going through the pregnancy and not me as a male. I can't expect everyone to follow my beliefs . Not even my own girlfriend.

    My personal views on abortion are not at all influenced by my religious beliefs as a catholic. Just mostly how my parents raised me to use common sense.

    Yeah, a child may be born to a parent that didn't want them or adopted or put in an unstable foster care system. Regardless of how children are raised, crimes still happen and criminals still exist. President Bush was born was such great wealth and he committed a DUI. I'm sure we all think that Paris Hilton is such a role model for our little girls, now do we? How about good ol' drunk lovin' Ted Kennedy? Or the heir to a make up company who ran away to Mexico for committing 80+ counts of rape? Osama bin Laden is from one of the richest families in Saudi Arabia. Did he end up becoming a spiritual leader of the most dangerous terrorist group because he came from a bad economic background? There are criminals who come from all backgrounds.

    I understand abortion is a difficult decision. A woman who chooses to abort her child is not a bad person though I think she is making a mistake when there are better alternatives. I knew friends in high school and college that went through abortions and they regret it. Not many clinics in my area offer proper education on the procedure and it's potential side effects both emotionally and physically. I know 3 women in college who quit because of their abortion, not because of their pregnancy.

    I can understand abortion in the cases of rape since the pregnancy was not the woman's fault and she was forced into it. And in the case of the mother's health being in danger.

    I also went to a high school where the school allowed their pregnant students to have abortions behind their parents back. And this was in an upper middle class neighborhood. I think there should be parental notification if a pregnant teenager wishes to seek an abortion. I don't want to hear the news that my daughter had an abortion behind my back without telling me and she ended up dying or something. If my daughter told me, we would discuss the solutions and I would make the choice hers and will support her in any way I can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ParaParaJMo View Post
    I think there should be parental notification if a pregnant teenager wishes to seek an abortion.
    I disagree with that note simply because it's not them who is having the kid [even if it is their grandchild]. And unfortunately, plenty of pregnant teens have a lot of reason not to tell their parents about it. :/
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    Would you want your own daughter to have an abortion behind your back? What happens if your daughter happened to get hurt or die during the procedure or mysteriously feel depress/emotional or have other health problems as a result?

    I don't think the parents should have the final say, but they should have at least be notified if an underage girls do seek an abortion since they are responsible for the minor. I wouldn't force my daughter to whether or not have an abortion. I would only want her to understand or make sure she understands what she is doing and is aware of the potential side effects or consequences. That way stupid things like lawsuits can be less avoidable (though they may happen anyway) and it would be a more productive learning experience.

    I don't think there should be laws against abortion as a whole. I don't see it as a means of population control. I respect it as a privacy issue. I think abortion to some extent is wrong. I can understand when it is necessary and when it is not necessary in my own views. I do not call myself pro life or pro choice. I just call my view, "pro-make sure you know what you're doing and if it's what you really what you want to do."

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    I now my girl friend had a abortion. I don't now what to think about it she said she wanted the child whit me and i said no i don't want to have a child. Then she said don't you love me anymore and i said no thats not it i just don't want to have a child on this age. then i leave the house. three days later i went back to say that i would take the child only because i love her, but she took already a abortion and said that she did it for me. I felled that i was a real baster back then and i can not turn it back.
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    Oooh, very controversial topic, as always.

    Well, I shall be political and straddle the fence, so to say.

    Its a choice, first and foremost. Not for the government, not for the people in general, but for the woman herself. Just because other people do not want women to abort their unborn children, does not mean the women do not have a reason.

    But then again, using abortion as a form of birth control is wrong. I think there should be some sort of proof shown, that the women in question have a reason for aborting the baby, whether its rape, or can't afford it, or the such. Not just because they don't want to have it. But then, once again, you have to remember: Why would you want to put a child through an awful life, knowing the mother never wanted her child in the first place?

    And as for adoption as an excuse, some children are NEVER adopted, and if they are, who says they will go to a loving family? In some cases, its the(not better), but the only choice that is given.

    And if the government bans abortion, women are going to go back to deliberately trying to have miscarriages, and using under the tables methods that could harm them or worse, kill them. Does that mean they deserve to die? In my opinion no.

    As for my opinion on abortion, and me being a woman, I would go for it being legal, with those little "terms of conditions" attached. Abortion should only be legal under the normal following: Rape, something wrong with the baby that could affect the mother, and maybe...even the fact that the mother is just adamant about having the child, but only because it was an accident she was pregnant in the first place. Not because she whored around and conviently FORGOT to use protection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ParaParaJMo View Post
    Would you want your own daughter to have an abortion behind your back?
    If she wants to have one, I'm fine with it.
    What happens if your daughter happened to get hurt or die during the procedure
    Then I'll be notified. Why will notifying me before hand change the results?
    or mysteriously feel depress/emotional or have other health problems as a result?
    That's why they offer counseling in most decent clinics.

    I don't think the parents should have the final say, but they should have at least be notified if an underage girls do seek an abortion since they are responsible for the minor. I wouldn't force my daughter to whether or not have an abortion. I would only want her to understand or make sure she understands what she is doing and is aware of the potential side effects or consequences. That way stupid things like lawsuits can be less avoidable (though they may happen anyway) and it would be a more productive learning experience.
    That's fine, but you don't just notify the understanding parents, you notify the religious goons, idealistic hippies, and other people who can and will make their daughter's life hell as a result. Even if the parents can't technically prevent the abortion, try to have one when confined to your room.


    Suffice to say, if the parents are notified, the people who need to get abortions won't get them, either because they will be too intimidated of their parent's to follow through, or physically prevented.
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    I think abortion should be legal since despite being illegal, people still go through abortion and end up in worse situations (get infections, or die). That's not my only reason though. Some people are just stupid to get pregnant when they shouldn't be, but there are those who have no choice (i.e. get raped, birth control does not work).

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    this is what I think...
    Why do an abortion if you don't want the child? Just have the child, and put it up for adoption. There ya go, that's all you have to do.
    Carry the thing for nine months, suffer morning sickness and whatnot, go through the pain of labor/surgery? As opposed to abortion, I'd go for the latter if it was in my case.
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