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    Mohammad received it directly from God by Angel Gabriel. There is no third party in this one. This is another story and history lesson.
    Right here, you call this a history lesson?? If you accept this as historical fact then of course you have to believe the word of the Qur'an is divine. Everything you have said is just a bunch of circular logic leading us back to your "history lesson." I have no idea where you learned history from, but I would like to tell you that what you have here is in no way historical fact.

    Muhammad challenged the best poets and storytellers of the day to match the breathtaking elegance and the broad sweep of the divine text. They couldn’t.
    Contemporary sensibilities are not immune to the magnetic force of the Qur’an. Stories abound of people entering Islam after listening to a recitation of it, or reading it in translation. Cat Stevens, the British folk singer, converted and became Yusuf Islam after he read a copy given to him by his brother. Cassius Clay also converted after reading the Qur’an and became Muhammad Ali.
    Ok..So you can't match the "elegance"...and this somehow makes it divine?? I saw a wonderful piece of art today. I don't think anyone could do anything as beautiful as this painting so full of perfection, and yet I am under the impression that this art piece was made by a memeber of the human race. If we are to believe that those things that possess magnetic force and cannot be reproduced are divine, then we have quite a few other divine things here on this Earth... including the works of Shakespeare and a good number of poems by Robert Frost.

    You seem to think that the existence of the Qur'an itself is proof that a God exists. If that is all the "proof" you need then that's fine....But in fact you have no proof what so ever..and you would do well as to not call it such around those who know the true meaning of the word.

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    Who here believes in fireballs and shooting lightening out of hands?

    Who believes God is good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Darien
    I believe in God. If it wasn't for God I owuld have been dead a long time ago.
    Well you see, I believe in God but not the God that we worship. The reason is because Man created religion.

    WHO HERE BELIEVES WE'RE EQUAL TO GOD? SURELY NO ONE WOULD. SO GIVEN THAT, HOW CAN WE EVEN COMPREHEND GOD? IF WE WERE TO UNDERSTAND OUR CREATOR THEN ARE WE NOT ASCENDING TO THE LEVEL OF GOD? GOD IS NEITHER BAD OR GOOD, THOSE ARE HUMAN ATTRIBUTES. TO ASSOCIATE GOD WITH SUCH ATTRIBUTE THEN GOD HAS HUMAN QUALITIES? GOD IS NEUTRAL. GOD IS EVERYTHING AND NOTHING. I'M GREATFUL FOR MAN'S RELIGION BUT RELIGION IS STILL A PRODUCT OF MANKIND. This is just my opinion. I mean no disrespect to anyone. If anyone feels offended I apologize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hohenheim's Legacy
    Well you see, I believe in God but not the God that we worship. The reason is because Man created religion.

    WHO HERE BELIEVES WE'RE EQUAL TO GOD? SURELY NO ONE WOULD. SO GIVEN THAT, HOW CAN WE EVEN COMPREHEND GOD? IF WE WERE TO UNDERSTAND OUR CREATOR THEN ARE WE NOT ASCENDING TO THE LEVEL OF GOD? GOD IS NEITHER BAD OR GOOD, THOSE ARE HUMAN ATTRIBUTES. TO ASSOCIATE GOD WITH SUCH ATTRIBUTE THEN GOD HAS HUMAN QUALITIES? GOD IS NEUTRAL. GOD IS EVERYTHING AND NOTHING. I'M GREATFUL FOR MAN'S RELIGION BUT RELIGION IS STILL A PRODUCT OF MANKIND. This is just my opinion. I mean no disrespect to anyone. If anyone feels offended I apologize.
    To quote Nietzsche.

    "God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we, murderers of all murderers, console ourselves? That which was the holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet possessed has bled to death under our knives. Who will wipe this blood off us? With what water could we purify ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we not ourselves become gods simply to be worthy of it?"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieselmannen
    To quote Nietzsche.

    "God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we, murderers of all murderers, console ourselves? That which was the holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet possessed has bled to death under our knives. Who will wipe this blood off us? With what water could we purify ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we not ourselves become gods simply to be worthy of it?"
    You put it eloquently.
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    hmmm... you guys know this thread will go on unless it is closed, and then there will be another, and another and another thread....this shouldn't have been started
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    Tis true.....hmmmmm, but tis neva a bad idea 2 express ones opinion ^_^

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    If there is any divine being, I'm sure it'll show itself here in this thread after having seen how it troubles so many minds on t3h intarnet.


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    Nokizaru: I already did that, but people don't take me seriously. It's so hard being god these days. It's like, if I set fire to a bush, they just call the fire brigade and put it out, instead of recognizing it as a holy omen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dieselmannen
    I am god.



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    When god does reveal him/herself (after all we don't really know which gender god is, or if he/she has a gender), I'm sure all the bloggers will put the proof into their MySpace/LJ and then soon all the world will know the truth. After all, isn't that how we learn the truth of things these days...via blogs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neko Kira
    YES



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    Church is a waste of time, energy, and intelligence.

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    Of course there is a god. Who d'you think Christians Pray to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlaydeZeken
    Of course there is a god. Who d'you think Christians Pray to?
    Cthulhu? Dieselmannen?

    No one?

    Probably no one, since the Greeks liked to worship Helios, who they TOTALLY KNEW pulled the sun across the sky. Totally.
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    Oh wow I read what you said all wrong Whispers! My bad!
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    What, that since He is worshipped, He must exist? Not that confusing, since religions were invented by man, whenever they were needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlaydeZeken
    Of course there is a god. Who d'you think Christians Pray to?
    Myself, if they were smart.

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    Ahh yes there's a God, if you don't believe in God thats cool, he gives you that choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarahmoonstone
    Ahh yes there's a God, if you don't believe in God thats cool, he gives you that choice.
    At the cost of eternal hell in the afterlife?
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    If you care about where you would be in the afterlife then Im sure you believe in God.

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    No, I.... ugh, nevermind. You completely missed my point.
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