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Repent Sagat, repent!!
Religon is a rather difficult subjected but I beleive that we need religion. We need to beleive in God because what would we do. There is no way that I am going to start to beleive that science is the answer to everything.
I am not part of this world, I do not belong. I am just a girl with dreams, and who know where they will take me. Dreams that may seem impossible to you, but to me they are the fabric of reality.
Chocolate is.....everything
religion is not a necesity, I supose.
"Don't be fooled by an apperence"
If you havn't already read it, you're really going to love Nietzsche's "The Antichrist" (e-book here).Originally Posted by Sagat
Hey look, Japan made a movie about me!
Yeah, except that people do live just fine without. Ignorance of your place in the world does not mean that a deity must exist to give you purpose.
Also, unlike Religion, Science is not supposed to be an end. It doesn't give all the answers, and was never intended to. It wasn’t meant to replace religion. Could it? Not really.
Science is based in using logic to deduce a better understanding of the physical realm. Religion is based on believing in a Deity to give one better understanding of the spiritual realm. However, I can’t blindly believe in something just because someone tells me it’s true. I want verifiability.
Therefore, I believe in Agnosticism mixed with parts of Deism. A deity, if he exists, did not create earth by act of special creation, much less man, and he either does not care about earth, or refuses to act. However, there is no evidence supporting or disproving the existence of said deity, and therefore, his existence is a moot point. I live therefore, appreciating the world in spite of its inequities, and trying to carve out a niche matching my abilities. Then I intend to reproduce, and die as an old man, secure in the knowledge that I did as well as anyone. Do I think an afterlife exists? No. Does that bug me? No. Who wants to live forever?
Ehhh, I dunno if I'll stick around. We'll see.
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oh no sir
i do not believe umn that just cuz ur not my religion u have an eternity of flames
i was how do u say it
i was just posting a come back
anyway
umn no i believe that God is the best to judge us all
he knows best who is good and bad
it does not matter what religion u r
cuz ur parents have brought u up that way
so it is not ur fault
and i also do not believe
that just cuz Adam and Eve ate that apple
we all have sins
cuz everyone is a pure baby at some time
he is not born with sin
and also we do not need God's son to forgive us
we need God to forgive us
Because God is one
not 2 or 3
and any had a chance at heaven as long as he does the best he can
i do not believe that u will not go to heaven just because you are Christian or a Jew or a Muslim
anyone has a chance at it
you need to read the Qur'an
it will open your mind up
seriously
i am telling u this as a friend i guess
and one more thing
i do not believe in when someone slaps u
that u need to turn and let him slap u again
this is an interesting talk we have
we should be friends
^^
Religion=war=death
bang wowowo
you=disaster=distruction=dumbness=unhappiness
whats your problem man?.. you have a problem with religion? ( then i suggest you fix it)
Religion=warshiping=happiness=heaven
Uh, and the crusades were completely unrelated to religion?
Hey look, Japan made a movie about me!
they killed people
islam does not allow killing
and guess who was being killed by the crusaders?
muslim ( people who were following islam)
they were innocent
the crusaders kill and there for i do not beleive they were with any religion but saton's religion
I was under the impression that Islam is an "upgrade" of Christianity so to speak--that Muhammad is another in a long line of prophets (including Jesus and Moses).
Hey look, Japan made a movie about me!
it is
but see religions have changed over time without the original text to support it
right now there are so many different versions of the bible
you know?
but islam is a completion of the true christianity
and it always has the original text with it unlike the bible which has changed over years
i mean beleivig God has a son
that means there are 2 Gods
that is an awful thing to say
and if he has a son, why would he let him die?
i mean God is the merciful, the best.
if there were 2 gods there would be an argument in our creation and we would have lots of problems and issues
cuz who could create such a peacfull place with perfect unity and beauty
besides isn't Adam and Eve created the same way Jesus was
so that means we are all decendents of God
if so does that mean we are brotheren and sisters with insects and animals
anyway
if we are all his children
why should he liek one more than the other
thats why i say there is one God not 2
not a father not a son
just one
Long post, but I wanted to let people know what true Christians are like
Hey Sagat, there ARE some of us good Christians out there. You gotta understand that the people who follow this religion vary in thoughts, perspectives, and personality very greatly. People who follow this religion that I cannot stand: Evangelists that are only after peoples' money, Hypocritical "I'm so perfect" type people that instead of actually following the religion spend their time criticizing others, people who are megalomaniacs and try to turn the religion into some sort of social heiarchy (looking down on others who come to chruch dressed less extravagently than they are, looking down on people with less money who don't put as much money in the collection plate as them, use positions and extra church activities as a way to be better than others and look down on those that only come to chruch to worship and leave at the end of the service, and basically trying to incorporate stupid high school social standards into the church), overly fanatical Christians who seem to have forgotton what the religion is really about and spend their time attacking things they think are satanic trying to make big deals over stupid crap (like those people who were calling Harry Potter, Pokemon, and a bunch of other stuff satanic. A good example of this would be Jack Thompson, even though I don't think he's ever called a videogame satanic, but he uses his Christian views as a reason for doing what he does), politicians who use Christianity as a tool to help them in their campaign, and many other people who make a bad name for other Christians.
Notice all the different kinds of Christians that I don't like that I listed are all commiting sins in their own faith based on the reasons I don't like them. Not only that, but they think that what their doing is good for the Christian religion.
These kinds of Christians that I listed make it really hard for good Christians to find a decent church. The church I used to go to was really nice looking, big, and had alot of money put into it. All the people there dressed really nice. They had all kinds of programs like Sunday school services for every different age group, a large youth group that went on vacations to all kinds of different places multiple times per year, many different extra programs to be a part of, nice dinners for the people attending the church were served quite often, and they even had an after school daycare for kids as well as a nursery for babies. Top that off with a huge and talented choir and a large church staff and you have yourself a great church, right? WRONG. The people there were so snobby and egotistic, they would sneer at people whose cloths were not as expensive or nice as theirs, if someone put less money in the collection plate because they could not afford to put more in they were looked down on, if you weren't in all kinds of extra programs the chruch had you were also looked down upon, they even would talk about people behind their backs! These people were adults, too! The church did have one really good thing going for it, though. It had a GREAT preacher, who was down to Earth, funny, nice, caring, and really took the religion very seriously. He looked down upon no one and treated everybody as equals. He was one of the types who was there to preach about God and make sure we all knew exactly why we should praise God so much and even explained into detail why God would frown upon each sin and he even adressed some things I didn't even know were true sins. He wasn't fanatical or overly conservative either, when my brother got married, he called him and his wife into his office and started explaining the great things about marriage to them, even going into the subject of sex. His exact words were something like: "Now that you are married there is nothing you cannot consentually do together that is a sin, I want you two to know that I hope you two have GREAT sex!" Not to mention when my brother asked him to perform his wedding for him he let no personal engagements stop him. He even left the church because of the way the people were and started his own from scratch. The church was ment to bring things back to the basics of true Christianity. His idea was a church where no one cared what you were wearing (people even come in jeans and a t-shirt, and girls are allowed to wear pants, unlike the other one wear they were expected to wear long skirts only) and were just glad you came to worship God. He didn't have all that many people follow him out of the church, so he had difficulties doing it, but the people attending it are actually doing things to help, things that aren't in some "extra program", just real things to really help whenever possible. Needless to say I now attend his chruch. We don't even have a building yet, they are trying to finance that right now. They don't care how big or extravagent the building is, as long as it's fit for worshiping. As a matter of fact, they are currently holding the service in the lunchroom of the high school in my town.
Sorry, I know it's a long post, I just felt the need to adress some of the views people have of Christians, most which are because of those Christians that have made a bad name for us. But I completely understand why non-Christians see Christians the way they do, but I thought you all should know that we are not all like that.
Shinji Ikari=The Jack Tripper of anime.
yeah i agree with you about the harry potter and pokemon thingi
yeha
you watch it
does not mean
u have to beleive it
do i know you?
Please keep the spam and off-topicness out of this. I am trying to be nice and allow this thread, even tho I want to close it.
i think religion is necesary but it would be scary to think what it would be like if we had no religion
Well im getting back to this website hope you can give me rep because as you can see i need it.
Spam and offtopicness, really? Everything I've seen in these posts has pertained to religion (the only exception being yours). What would give you the urge to close this thread? Do you have something against the discussion of religion? I find that boarderline insulting. We are discussing a serious, mature, universally relavent topic, and yes, there have been some people posting immature posts that don't really contribute to the flow of conversation and some that have criticized others for their beliefs, but that's what makes it so great, it gives us the chance to witness to others and and educate those that may be ignorent with ideas and values they were not raised with. While you reserve the right to close this thread you know another one similar would be posted within a day. That's because it's in our nature to discuss such things with one another, seeking others who share a common view. So, like I was saying you definately reserve that right but it would only make people take this place less seriously.
By the way thank you for being so nice and allowing us to carry on an adult conversation. After all, it probably wouldn't bother you too much if we were all talking about our favorite kind of pocky right now, would it?
Shinji Ikari=The Jack Tripper of anime.
i think religion is necessary cuz sometimes i need to feel that there is a higher power than me and that sometimes i need a guid to lead me to right way or to remind me to stay away from wrong or bad things. and also if i didnt have a religion i'd go crazy cuz there would be so much questions that wouldnt have answers like how earth was created how i was created. and i belive tht no one will ever help me more in times of crises or any other time other the God . so ya but thats my belive
well i tried to stay away from this thread as much as possible but i cant some wrong things have been said about my religion and i cant just stand there and leave poor famous alone so dont blame me ppl. famous hasnt asked anyone to belive in Islam he was just expressing his ideas or belives and he never said anyone else was wrong.
Sagat that was really mean " ill-begotten faith" thats not true. i love my religion the fact that is u dont like my religion doesnt mean u go off saying mean stuff about my religion i dont know what religion u r or if u have one that isnt any of my busness its urs . besides u said if u have something nice to say then say it if u dont then dont thats what u said to famous but here u r saying mean stuff about my religion. Sagat everyone have there belives some would love to have the rest of the world to belive in what they belive in like me but i cant make anyone do that its the other's own choices not my choices everyone has to carry there own consiconquences on there own shoulders. and im not saying that my religion is right i mean everybody belives that there religion is THE religion just like i do. but thats everybody. and besides if u think my religion ( Islam) is bad tell me whats so bad about it why do u want to raise a attack on it so much. maby i can help on explainning something or maby i cant and i'll just have to accept the fact that u dont like my religion just dont say bad stuff about it based on one side u heard or saw ya gota study it from all different views even if u dont get convinced by the other views at least u'll know that there is a good and peacful side. there always is a good peacful side to everything . i've studied some other religions and i found out why ppl might belive those things i mean i used to say that it was just weird that was there religion but now i kinda understand i mean everybody has a different prospective that they look at things from. so ya i really tried to stay away from this thread but i just had to .
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traped in the mist of ones who lied,
confused by how foolish i am ,
wanting to disappear in my world alone with ones who care for me,
is that forbidden to ask that-tell me someone*
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Finally:
Well said.
And to the bad repper: leave a name next time you baby.
Last edited by Sagat; 07-22-2006 at 07:57 AM.
yeah.
your right cherryblosmes
umn i think
that all ppl should read about all religions and then they would understand eachother
and maybe
they would all find the right religion
and also
umn yeah i have read about other religions too
and everythign makes sence to me
Science does not explain everything; the concept of evolution isn't even half the truth.
Were those "Islamic friends" of yours believers or just namely Islamic, also, do they believe in the concept of evolution? If so, then thats not what we call true Muslims, it has been said in the Qur’an that Humans were created from clay/earth!
Umn I tolled u I was just coming up with a comeback about the eternity of flames thing (I was being honest)
And besides did u not read what I said?
I was saying that everyone has a chance at heaven
Just have to be good
We can not judge who goes to heaven
ONLY God
ONLY him
He is the only one who can judge us
No one else
He is the best
He knows what we have done
If someone was born in a family that believed wrong
It is not their fault
So God can judge them
We cannot walk in God's territory
And sorry for the typos
I was in a hurry
They are mostly typos
Some were bad spellings
but mostly typos
but anyway
Fairy tales?
come on
It makes more sense that we were descended form Adam and Eve
than to say we were monkeys
and then we evolved to humans
It does not make sense that
The world was created by a big bang
lol
that is silly
one accident
and wow we are here
lol
I do not think so
God created us all
Last edited by famous; 07-18-2006 at 03:24 PM.
I study religion, many various ones, as a hobby. I was raised Christian, dated Wiccans, and my best friend for the past three years is Muslim. I'm well educated in Tao and Zen, and I'm familiar with the various religions of the East. I've studied the development and evolution of religion starting from the beginning of civilization; from Ancient Paganism into Christianity, Judaism and Islam in the Middle East. And if there is any "truth" I've found, it is this:
Faith brings us together.
Religion drives us apart.
These eight simple words speak volumes.
I won't presume to tell anyone WHAT to have Faith in. Different people NEED to believe in different things. That's reality, it's just how we are. But it just makes me sick all the hypocritical idiots who preach "Love God. Celebrate Life. And think and act exactly the way I think you should or suffer never-ending violence and death."
Not all religious people do this, but a small percentage is sufficient to create a huge problem.
I personally consider myself a Spiritual Humanist. It focuses on logic, faith in humanity, and having a sense of right and wrong and helping others without needing to rely on a deity for guidance.
In my case, however, I didn't need religion to teach me that.
Religious topics are especially prone to spiraling out of control, and usually require more moderation than any other kind, relatively speaking. This thread has already exceeded the average life expectancy of such highly controversial subjects. Not because WE have something against religion, but because most people tend to have something against other people's views on it. That should be self-evident if you've read the posts up through this one.
Last edited by Cless Alvein; 07-18-2006 at 08:20 PM.
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oh.
interesting things you mentioned
well i do not think religion drives us apart
if we only studdied about each other
everyone does not do this
just some ppl
some ppl just go with the media and assume ppl in the middle east are terrrorist
wich infact
do they evern know what the ward means?
if they did
they would know if you kill
then you are a terrorrist
if they studdied religions
then they would know that it is agains islam to kill ppl
so the media is currupt
but anyway
i have friends of all religions
i enjoy religious talks
i like ppl who are religious
it really does not matter much too me what religion they are
but it is really nice that they are religious
i have friends of all religions
christianity
islam
Jewdisim
yeah
lol
and i forgot to ansere sagats question about the middle east
if anybody does somethign wrong that does not make the religion wrong
and besides alot of the problems, esspecially recently are when other countries like america decide they want the country to be just liek themselves
if other countries did not interfere it would be way better
ur right about all what u said famous. i totaly agree with u and i agree with some of the stuff that Lance wisteria said. and AGAIN im not asking anyone to convert im just saying what i belive in i like this disscution. but Sagat i was pointing out something and i think it got to some ppl well but u on the other hand attacked me for no reasone and i was nice so that was no way of being civilized i never critisized wht u belive in. and famous may have u said u will burn in hell but then he cleared it up and whether u hold that as a grudge or not thats up to u. and if u have something nice to say then say if u dont then dont but if disagree with something i said u can express ur view in a more nicer way. and u cant tell me that im not strong or so i belive in what i belive and if u actually got into u it u might understand but u wont all ur doing is attacking and not giving a chance for u mind to think i told i dont care what u belive in its ur busniness i didnt call u dumb for what u belive in so u cant tell me im weak for wanting a god to exsit. and for some ppl u know if they didnt have a religion they'd DIE cuz they live on beliving that there is a god and they have a reasone to live. i mean some ppl live for god and if they didnt have a purpose to live they'd kill themselfs do u see how important religion is to some ppl it actually saves lives. and anyways i am stoping cuz all im gona get from is being offended and u r just going to keep attacking i was just having a discussion thats all.
*lost in the world of broken and dead hearts,
traped in the mist of ones who lied,
confused by how foolish i am ,
wanting to disappear in my world alone with ones who care for me,
is that forbidden to ask that-tell me someone*
sig by Nespa thank u so much ur awsome !!! lol ^.^
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