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    Default Does your country have a problem with illegal immigrants?

    Does your country have a problem with illegal immigrants?

    Today in US thousands of
    of mostly Hispanic immigrants and illegal immigrants are protesting about a future law not in their favor.

    Do you think the protesting is a good ideal or do you think it will backfire?
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    i have no ideea but if you're such an idealist then what's with the " attempting to give a damn" signature? /

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    There was no need for that, Im just asking you all a question.

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    I just think it will back fire.

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    I dunno. Canada just lets anybody in so theres bound to be at least one illigal immigrant out of 20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fullmetal_Alchemist249
    I dunno. Canada just lets anybody in so theres bound to be at least one illigal immigrant out of 20.
    Yeah, Canada is very easy going when it comes to their boraders.

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    like maddox said once, force companies to pay them the same wages as everyone else, now there is no incentive to hire them .. in time it will sort itself out ... well mostly

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    Canada may want to have different laws in the future about immigrants entering illegally.

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    I think the only people who should make those types of laws are Indians
    because they lived here first we have taken their land
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    The USA is very divided on this issue. It is only a slight majority that seems to have a problem with this enough to want to do something about it. I personally think it is mostly discrimination, for if an Australlian or British man immagrated here, the women would welcome him with open arms. How is that any different from a Portegese family? Because they are fortunate enough to already speak English? A double standard.

    I feel immigrants are fine, they enrich out culture and provide us with a broad range of people. Who I have a problem with is ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. They pay no taxes in society, and I feel that is very unfair. They also put themselves at risk, for they then have no health insurance. Foolish on both counts.

    I would like to say however, the majority of these immigrants do no/can not vote, so they will most likely lose this battle.

     
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    I think the only people who should make those types of laws are Indians
    because they lived here first we have taken their land
    I'll have to agree to that. But Indians already get allot of money from the government. They basically own all of Chilliwack! (near Vancoucer) But they should get a say in at least some laws

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    Yep america sure does have a illegal immagration problem.

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    Yes, it does, but not I'm getting into details because this subject has all ready been disscused in more than 3 threads all pointing out different things about it, yet they still end up in the same subject.

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    Yes and no. The politicians think it's a problem (well, treat it as one), but they really have very little popular support for the idea.
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    I suppose, since I constantly hear about it on the news and white folk complaining every minute. But since I live in Michigan, I hardly see Mexicans, so I'm not complaining and really don't see why people would actually want to build a wall to keep our labor force out. Heh heh, I'm just kidding.

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    well here in the states it is a problem to an extent.see if people come over here legally i have no problem with it but its when they come over here illegally and dont pay taxes or anything like that,that hurts us american citizens and thats what annoys me

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    oh and to add to comment to the statement made by Faceless111 "white people" are not the only ones complaining. i live in a southern state alot closer to the border than michigan and we actually do see the reprecussions of illegals unlike you who dont see most legal immigrants from mexico at all. so what im trying to say is don't make racist remark over something you have no concept of.thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eros Marrionette
    The USA is very divided on this issue. It is only a slight majority that seems to have a problem with this enough to want to do something about it. I personally think it is mostly discrimination, for if an Australlian or British man immagrated here, the women would welcome him with open arms.




    That's not true in the least. California, for example, has a HUGE immigration problem that A LOT of people care about. Depending on where you are in the states, it's a HUGE problem, or a very minor one. All along the Mexico/US border there are thousands of illegal immigrants, THOUSANDS. Not just a family or two. It's not discrimination, either. These people chose to go around the system, be it for a better life, or for other reasons. What they're doing is ILLEGAL. If a female got pulled over, and refused to show ID- The male cop wouldn't go "Okay, you're female, it's okay" and let her go, she'd still get in trouble, regardless of gender. Same vice versa. It has nothing to do with gender at ALL. It's ILLEGAL and that's all there is to it. The US suffers from economic issues enough; we don't need to be pursuing more of that by letting illegal immigrants come in without hassle. Most of them could probably obtain a VISA to come in legally, but refuse to.



    By you saying that this is gender related, you're proving how completely ignorant you must be. There are many issues and factors that go into this and you have yet to state even one of those. =( PLEASE go do your homework before you start speaking on behalf of the entire country. I'm offended by this.

    PS, this part of your statement contradicts that last part. And this topic isn't about immigrants who aren't illegal, so I can't even begin to understand what your rambling is about.
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    Of course America does. We have to call in the army to keep illegal aliens out. and we also have to have a fence.

    That's pretty sad...
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    I don't know about Canada but it's not like we don't have the space to house people XD LOTS of empty space up here.

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    I don't live in the USA, so I don't know what's going on there.

    Answer to the first post: Yeah, our country is having trouble with illegal immigrants. Main problem would be that they don't pay their taxes BUT want "equal rights". And also, as Schrei says, they're "illegal"; if that's not a problem by itself, then I don't know what is. Most of the illegal immigrants here are either from India or China. I watched on the news just this afternoon that the government is arresting some Indians (people from India) because of running businesses, which violates certain laws. They react by saying that "We also need to support our families and make money." , which in my opinion, is not a very wise statement. This is because: a.) they can get employed here, what they're not allowed is to set up a business until they get naturalized; b.) they don't declare what they do for a living, hence they're not taxed.

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    Ref the Natives and their eternal crying about land claims:

    Too - damn -bad

    Spoils of war goes to the victor. It happened a long time ago, and it sucked, but it ain't gonna change now.

    Also, like that land dispute in northern Manitoba, it's funny how they only care once they find out a particular parcel of land may generate/hold lots of monetary value. Then the whole "Aboriginal rights and land claims" comes back into play full force. Extortionist losers.

    The Senator who makes a promise to wipe out all Aboriginal land claims and disputes and vows to bulldoze all Aboriginal Reservations as well as ending their free university and tax-exempt status would without a doubt, get my vote. Which means I'd be voting for myself.

    Now, on the topic again of illegal immigration:

    Within my country, Canada, we do have problems. We also have problems with legal immigrants and minorities. Seems they think that because they are a minority, they should be treated more "equal" than everyone else. Seems that they want all of our rights plus some they feel they alone should be entitled to. And our stupid communist Government continually bends over backwards trying to make all groups happy and fit into the mosaic like a twisted game of Tetris.

    Solution is simple: Crack down on illegal immigrants: I don't care if the CCP is persuing them for practicing Falun Gong - send them back if they didn't apply to be refugees beforehand. Cause once they're here they're going to then demand jobs and every other handout they can get. Why soon they'd be teaching Mandarin in grade four classes in British Columbia .. oh wait.

    Crack down on immigrants already here - the noisy, whiny ones. The ones that want to be treated like Canadians, leave alone. The ones that want to be treated like that and a class of their own; deport back to wherever the hell they came from. See how special they feel back in their own crappy country.

    That's all for now. Anymore and I may have CSIS knocking on my door at midnight and be sent for "cultural awareness and sensitivity" re-education.

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