The formations of Devils and Demons

[ps2huang]

I often head that devils and demons are the toughest ones in hell.

I've question: are they the mutated ones of zombies? How did they form? Who have origins of them?

Another question: were demons and devils humans at first? If that is so, how were they transformed?

[ryuu_underworld_overlord]

how is a human going to know that unless they are one themselves?

[der Scharfschüt]

demons are satans minions simple as that, i guess when satan was cast out of heaven other angels who followed him were to, so it would only make sense that they would be the demons

[ps2huang]

So Demons were once angels?

[der Scharfschüt]

exactly, they became demons when hell was founded

[ryuu_underworld_overlord]

yeah thats what is says in the bible...I think

[der Scharfschüt]

yea pretty much (went to a lutheran school preschool-8th lol)

[ps2huang]

is Janemba a demon?

[der Scharfschüt]

umm who? lol

[ryuu_underworld_overlord]

isn't Janemba from DBZ?

[Opinionated]

Okay, when Satan rebelled against The Almighty, one thrid of the angels rebelled with him. After a battle, they were all forced to the earth, and to Hell. They became demons.

This is not to be confused with the demons of anime, 9/10ths of which were poorly translated, with a more accurate translation being monster.

[der Scharfschüt]

nice summary (but why did I have to read your sig lol)

[ryuu_underworld_overlord]

I was bored ._.
Janemba is a fictional villain in the anime series Dragon Ball Z, a demon resulting from the escape of lost souls in the franchise mythology's version of Hell. His first and only appearance was in Fukkatsu no Fyūjon!! Gokū to Bejīta ("Rebirth of Fusion!! Gokū and Vegeta"), released in North America by FUNimation Entertainment as Fusion Reborn. He is a creation of Toei Animation, with neither the concept or design done by original manga author Akira Toriyama (though their efforts were complimented by Toriyama in interviews).[citation needed] Since Janemba is not present in the manga like all other Dragon Ball Z movie villains, he is not part of its canon.

[Kishiro]

Ha ha ha. This thread is pretty funny...

You know, this can all on be speculated off of personal beliefs. Although, many people may share many beliefs.

And the way I believe, all the information in this thread thus far is completely wrong.

First off, I don't believe in heaven and hell, because I don't believe in Jehovah and Lucifer ("God" & "Satan"). So to me, all that was said above can be thrown out the window. Secondly, demons can be seen as the most powerful and the strongest of evil beings. They reside on the astral/spiritual plane, but can't cross over at will. Third, zombies? HA.

I see MaruDashi and Opinioated are watching....

Anyway. Back to the topic at hand. Demons need a summon to cross over in most normal occassions, the way I personally see it. But I also think that if one is strong enough, that when this happens (however extremely rare), they can pass through.
The easiest way to summon, or open the gate? The Ouija Board, of course. Do I condone the damned things? Hell no. Especially if you don't know what you are doing. There are said to be riutals that are more complex for summoning demons and spirits. But meh. This isn't the place to get in to theory and speculation on that.

[ryuu_underworld_overlord]

zombies, zombies, zombies I want to see the zombies, brains brains brains! XD

[der Scharfschüt]

thats what this thread is for so everyone can give their idea on the topic, theres isnt one right answer (or is there..... food for thought lol)

[ryuu_underworld_overlord]

thats what this thread is for so everyone can give their idea on the topic, theres isnt one right answer (or is there..... food for thought lol)

lol food for thought I like that=^_^=

[der Scharfschüt]

lol food for thought I like that=^_^=

thanks i thought if it while typing lol, now back to the topic

[ryuu_underworld_overlord]

anyways anime demons are not the same as 'demons' in the real world? anyways... I am trying to say not all fantasys are real...I knowthat made no sence...

[der Scharfschüt]

but then again whats to say demons aren't on earth, look at serial killers who, well lets not get into to detail but do some sick stuff

[Prophet of Death]

Im tired of this sicko... I think he needs to go to another forum. No one here likes him and he keeps making stupid threads.

With that said.

They are not mutated zombies. Maybe you should read the bible bud.

[ps2huang]

Do you guys remember Janemba made Goku fell into the blood pool that modified Goku's nipples, auuuuuu.

[Sailor Lunar Eclipse]

Ha ha ha. This thread is pretty funny...

Yep thanks for sending me the link over aim!

You know, this can all on be speculated off of personal beliefs. Although, many people may share many beliefs.

Well like with everything, everyone believes things for different things!

And the way I believe, all the information in this thread thus far is completely wrong.

NEVER SAID TRUER!

First off, I don't believe in heaven and hell, because I don't believe in Jehovah and Lucifer ("God" & "Satan"). So to me, all that was said above can be thrown out the window. Secondly, demons can be seen as the most powerful and the strongest of evil beings. They reside on the astral/spiritual plane, but can't cross over at will. Third, zombies? HA.

Exactly lets look the word Demon up in the dictionary...
Demon:

1. An inferior deity, such as a deified hero.
2. An attendant spirit; a genius.

I see MaruDashi and Opinioated are watching....

They are... oh noes...

Anyway. Back to the topic at hand. Demons need a summon to cross over in most normal occassions, the way I personally see it. But I also think that if one is strong enough, that when this happens (however extremely rare), they can pass through.

I didn't not know that you believed the same thing I did, and for that my respect for you has been highered, not to mention that you have said everything I would say and that makes me very upset.
Anyways I don't know what else to say, I truely don't, if only Kishiro didn't beat me.


and after previewing this this post I relised how pathetic everyone who has posted are. This is truely sad, look up your facts, read a book, and not a story book like harry potter, ok?

[der Scharfschüt]

im trying to be considerate of everyone else's ideas but lets not go bad mouthing people's religions. its one thing to say what you think but another to say that someone else is completey wrong, the only thing you'll get out off that is a big argument and alot of bad blood

[BlueJade]

I often head that devils and demons are the toughest ones in hell.

I've question: are they the mutated ones of zombies? How did they form? Who have origins of them?

Another question: were demons and devils humans at first? If that is so, how were they transformed?

You'll see for yourself when you get there.