Hentai - SERIOUS DISCUSSION!

[Skeith/Haseo Wave]

It's just like porn in anime version... and like what I THINK - most of the people has been watching some before, out of curiousity. But still, people should NOT insult people for watching hentai, since it's none of their business what people likes to watch and such.
I don't know about the culture in japan when it comes to hentai at least... there's every type of anime and hentai should exist as well I guess ^^;

ugh,...~thinks back~ we had this discussion b4, haven't we?
Whoever was in it last time should know how this will turn out.......

[Kishiro]

I've never watched Loli, and I never want to, from the sounds of it. Thats just gross....

Keep in mind, she said it is against her religion to watch hentai. It is therefore safe to assume that she is religious to the point that she will not watch an adult cartoon. Religion negates all logic and replaces it with "ignorance, bias, and insulting statements".

Fair and true enough my friend. But still, I have little tolerance for that, even when brought on by religion. Because that view doesn't only apply to pornography and hentai, it goes for people in real life too. And whom are we to say who can and cannot love each other? And yes, I know I am in no place to judge another's person religion or their beliefs either, and I'm not. I just don't approve of the bias beliefs can create.

La Blue Girl was just retarded.

Yes, yes it was. That was the point I was getting at. Hope I didn't come off like a fan of it. The whole tentacle thing does nothing for me....
As for the octopus thing.... All I can say, is ick, and shudder.

Not to mention...I've seen some pretty hot teachers, and it's even hotter because you know you aren't allowed to have it, even if she offerd.

Ain't that the truth. In my last two years of highschool, I had teachers that there were closer to my age than my older brother, whom is only six years older than me. Teachers in their early twenties. And some of them were older than that, but they were still pretty good looking. Ha ha. Oh yes, they had some nice looking ladies up at my old high school.

Edit: I'd like to add that the japanese aren't really "perverted", and that using that term is inaccurate, in my opinion. Many say it is perverted because they live in The UK, The USA, or Canada. Where as in most other countries in the world, so many things that we find taboo by society, are not in there. Take countries like Germany, where ten year olds can stop by the bar and have a small beer on the way home, and then keep going. Where adult stores are located directly next to ice cream shops and toy stores in a strip mall, with what we would consider "explicit" items right in the window, uncensored, and uncovered.

The same lack of taboo occurs in japan. Vending machines for EVERYTHING on the street. From ciggarettes to used girls underwear. Its just that in our countries, we have been pushed to believe that such things are so inappropriate for everyone to see. And that they should all be kept private. I always say, things wouldn't be such a big deal if they weren't seen as so taboo by the media and the powers that be. Censorship has made people feel like things should be kept private, even though the majority of people all experience the same things.

[Regex]

Come on man there are much better things to do in the real world then fantasize on these.

So very true. So how can you say that about the little girl hentai, and not accept a similar argument about the whole idea?

And there is in fact, hentai that is normal like normal porn. So generalizing hentai as "disturbing anime" and such is invalid.

"Disturbing" is an opinion, and is absolutely valid in a discussion, as long as it's presented as such. In this case, I say that it was presented properly.

Religion negates all logic and replaces it with "ignorance, bias, and insulting statements".

That was incredibly flamatory. Do not insult someone for having different religious beliefs than you. Especially when you bring your own moral beliefs into the discussion immediately after. There's nothing wrong with using your religious beliefs in a discussion, provided that you can accept that not everyone will share your beliefs. It's not a debate where we're trying to convince you not to watch pornographic anime. It's a discussion on the issue in general.

nd I havn't seen Revolutionary girl utena, but wasn't that a Yuri anime?
Also, I recall 2 of the sailor scouts were lovers in the Japanese version of sailor moon( I forget the name, but one has short blonde hair, and the other had long, wavy looking blue hair. The short haired one always dressed like a man)

There are homosexual situations, but very little that can be considered pornographic. There is some that is arguable, but that's not the main focus to the show at all.

[Rageling]

wasn't it something like 13-14 with a parent's permission or something.

Thirteen I think. I think anything depicting someone under thirteen is counted as child pornography and punishable by law. I'm not sure how that applies to hentai but Japan is actually unusually strict in a lot of regards such as not being able to show any genitalia without a censor, but then not so strict in other ways. I don't understand most Japanes laws but then again I don't get most American ones either.

[-Batman-]

There are homosexual situations, but very little that can be considered pornographic. There is some that is arguable, but that's not the main focus to the show at all.

Go read my post over again. I wasn't talking about the pornographic content. Someone made a comment on how yaoi anime such as gravitation is acceptable, but if it were women it would not be excepted. I was just giving examples of anime that are Yuri/have Yuri. Yuri doesn't have mean girl on girl sex, it can just mean a relationship between two women.

[Gjallarhorn]

Yuri doesn't have mean girl on girl sex, it can just mean a relationship between two women.

That would be classified as shoujo-ai. Yuri has hentai content, shoujo-ai is more romance-based.

[Zantetsuken]

I just have to say this. If a women has "mean" sex with someone, it can't be a relationship? BTW, "mean girl on girl sex" is the funniest thing I've read so far.

[Darth Tyranus]

Can I point out girl on girl action is sick

Nice of you to point that out
I forgot to mention boys on boys by the way but don't get me wrong here... I'm for consenting adults having sex meaning whether it be hetorosexual, bisexual and even homosexual. I have no problem with them doing it. It's basically their choice and who are we to say otherwise.

Hypocrite much?

[_CTA_]

My mom said that because sex laws in Japan are so high, that they can't do real porn. So they show it in there cartoons.

i have ur comment and agree with u

[Regex]

Go read my post over again. I wasn't talking about the pornographic content. Someone made a comment on how yaoi anime such as gravitation is acceptable, but if it were women it would not be excepted. I was just giving examples of anime that are Yuri/have Yuri. Yuri doesn't have mean girl on girl sex, it can just mean a relationship between two women.

Yeah... Yuri in fact does mean girl on girl sex. Just like Yaoi does mean boy on boy sex. Without the sex, it's not pornographic, and not hentai.

[Janethan23]

Hypocrite much?

What are you trying to pull here?
To think that you've been here longer than I have (level 97) and you still use pitiful ways to get your message across. Misquoting me then insinuating things that are baseless is so uncool and low girl. That's the trouble with kiddy posters, always going for a couple of words then taking it out of context and they think they have something valid. Here's a word of advice: Read it again, only this time read it entirely so that you could get to what I was really trying to say. It's all about children in hentai if you still don't get it.

"If this has something to do with your robotech garbage then grow up and deal with it. I've moved on and so should you."

[Capo]

In my opinion Hentai is stupid. But then, I find stupid stuff funny. Now, it depends on who you are and what you are into so I can not judge those who watch it. I guess to some it is the same as regular porn. My friend and I sat through a Hentai DVD once, we couldn't stop laughing. Half of the stuff couldn't be farther from the truth. But, it's not as if it is some disgusting monster that makes anyone who watches it a pervert. I guess some people find it gross, I think that if they like it then it is their personal buissness and we should not judge.

[Regex]

What are you trying to pull here?
To think that you've been here longer than I have (level 97) and you still use pitiful ways to get your message across. Misquoting me then insinuating things that are baseless is so uncool and low girl. That's the trouble with kiddy posters, always going for a couple of words then taking it out of context and they think they have something valid. Here's a word of advice: Read it again, only this time read it entirely so that you could get to what I was really trying to say. It's all about children in hentai if you still don't get it.

"If this has something to do with your robotech garbage then grow up and deal with it. I've moved on and so should you."

This is an obvious troll. The post you quoted is pointing out discrepancies in your own arguments. The discrepancies exist. Accept it, retract the statement(s) that don't apply anymore, or accept that you won't be taken seriously at all.

And do NOT troll here. It will only cause problems for you.

[Masali]

What are you trying to pull here?
To think that you've been here longer than I have (level 97) and you still use pitiful ways to get your message across. Misquoting me then insinuating things that are baseless is so uncool and low girl. That's the trouble with kiddy posters, always going for a couple of words then taking it out of context and they think they have something valid. Here's a word of advice: Read it again, only this time read it entirely so that you could get to what I was really trying to say. It's all about children in hentai if you still don't get it.

"If this has something to do with your robotech garbage then grow up and deal with it. I've moved on and so should you."

I guess the process of reading your own posts to find the blindingly obvious contradictions and hypocrasy is now out of style.

In my opinion Hentai is stupid. But then, I find stupid stuff funny. Now, it depends on who you are and what you are into so I can not judge those who watch it. I guess to some it is the same as regular porn. My friend and I sat through a Hentai DVD once, we couldn't stop laughing. Half of the stuff couldn't be farther from the truth. But, it's not as if it is some disgusting monster that makes anyone who watches it a pervert. I guess some people find it gross, I think that if they like it then it is their personal buissness and we should not judge.

Once again, Back to my original comparison "It's like taking your opinion of rock and roll from Greenday. Is it mainstream? Yeah. Is it good? Hell. No." The hentai you can rent in a video store is the hentai that Japanese people laugh at. It's the kind of stuff that American hentai fans are forced to sit through because the good stuff is either:
A. very hard to come by
B. Impossible to come by
C. In japanese.

And yeah, watching videostore hentai is great for a laugh, I've done it myself. But it's surely not what you should base your opinion of it off of.

Case and point, this game (no explicit content):

Im extremely interested in this games art style and it's story. "*gasp* Story!? in hentai!? Perish the thought!" This is why you shouldn't be posting here, you obviously know nothing about hentai. Hentai from websites or filesharing is the crap that Japan rejects. The stuff from the 80's that's obsolete now. H-Games straight from Japan, available on torrents (for the most part, if you know what game to buy) are very story heavy. I've already given examples.

The Word "I've" makes me think of another hentai plus. Kickbutt music! I've is the leading musical directors in Japan for H-Games. If there's an H-Game worth getting, I've probably does the music for it.

Another thing about hentai is that, despite what you may think about H-games, they are all executed differently. Some follow the same trend, but some are extremly interesting and diverse in their execution. Case and Point, Brave soul (thumbnail below). Brave soul is much like Zelda and FF (without the lame story) in it's gameplay. You have a party (all females) and you go around and slash the hell out of skeletons and the like. This game. But you must lead them well for them to fall in love with you. And once that happens then it becomes an H-game again...

I know way too much about this stuff...

[-Batman-]

You have a party (all females)

What, so the cute little dragon doesn't count? He has better stats than all of the girls.

[Janethan23]

Post removed due to language

Yeah right...

[Manhattan_Project_2000]

I forget who said it, but I've seen live-action tenticles. Evil Dead 1 has evil, evil trees.

[-Batman-]

...I remember that movie. Yes...evil tree's >_>

[jing fi is back]

Hentai is not bad it is kinda cool i ran into it a cupple of time and it was cool anf funny.

[[Boolean]]

So far to my knowledge I've never had any desire to look into hentai. Sure, it's in a few issues of Newtype (barely could be called hentai), but those pages I rip out and throw away (or recycle, I am a tree hugger after all).

[lorie]

yeh i know how u feel chimes... but i accidentally came across hentai. i shouldnt have cus its not allowed (in mi religion) but it was... fascinating. im underage though and i kept that in mind so i left the website. now i rely dont like it. im kinda glad. dont know why. oh and i never knew yaoi/yuri meant porn between them i thought it was equivalent to shounen-ai and shoujo-ai

[Darth Tyranus]

What are you trying to pull here?
To think that you've been here longer than I have (level 97) and you still use pitiful ways to get your message across. Misquoting me then insinuating things that are baseless is so uncool and low girl. That's the trouble with kiddy posters, always going for a couple of words then taking it out of context and they think they have something valid. Here's a word of advice: Read it again, only this time read it entirely so that you could get to what I was really trying to say. It's all about children in hentai if you still don't get it.

"If this has something to do with your robotech garbage then grow up and deal with it. I've moved on and so should you."

I read your posts and you flip flow so much it's comical, as soon as some one disagreed with you you changed your tune. And you didn't add that stuff about children until after you said yuri was sick.

And I fail to see what be being a member longer than you, or my robotech fandom has to do with anything here.

And Masali I can't agree with you on those points of H-games. Although it's true many DO have a story most of the time they are pretty pointless or melodramatic. And the art really runs together, and most of the music is just droning. Maybe you played the gold at the end of the rainbow, but from what i've seen/played it's mostly crap.

[[Boolean]]

Someone bad repped me for that previous post. For their info, I do not have a hatred of it, it's just not what I care to see. If you like it, that's fine, I won't sue you for it. The reason why I rip out pages is because if my parents came across it, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to watch/read anime ever again, and that would make me sad...very, VERY, sad.

[The Archangel]

Someone bad repped me for that previous post. For their info, I do not have a hatred of it, it's just not what I care to see. If you like it, that's fine, I won't sue you for it. The reason why I rip out pages is because if my parents came across it, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to watch/read anime ever again, and that would make me sad...very, VERY, sad.

well than that's what you should have said in the first place. U made henati fans sound like pervs in that last post.

[urrik]

Like anime, hentai an be very graphic, and quite realistic. So, getting turned on by it is not at all shameful in my opnion. It just depends on your preferences. I myself don't find anything good about furries or tentacles, but I think some hentai is acceptable. I have numerous pics, read some, watched one. But all that doesn't make me a perv, now does it? I don't go around hitting on every girl (in real life), nor do I try to cop feels or make sexual inuendos. I am not a perv, I'm simply human, and I have hormones too.

i agree with u