what is the worst military loss in all history?
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what is the worst military loss in all history?
Last edited by Darrmyth; 10-07-2005 at 06:36 AM.
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This is weird. Well, I have to say Japan bombing USS Arizona, somebody close this thread before somebody gets killed.
Hm..well, Vietnam seems like a pretty good choice.
The Korean war! Damn North Koreans! (not really much of a blunder, but damn North Koreans!)
The Children's Crusade. They sent a bunch of 12 year old boys to try to retake the "holy lands" because they thought god wouldn't let the children die at the hands of the heathens. Half of them died and rest became slaves.
The worst military loss?
Well the soviet union going into afghanistan would probably have to come close to taking the cake. That war was what ended up destroying the soviet union.
Hitler's declaration of war on the united states after pearl harbor is also a big blunder. The US, even after the japanese attack held off declaring war on germany, and the isolationist movenment being strong, might never have done so, if not for the nazi's declaring war on them.
Verdun, 1916 was a pretty horrific battle also, between France and Germany, where casualties of over 880,000 men were inflicted in an area roughly the size of NYC's central park over the course of 10 months, as both armies attempted to wear each other down.
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the battle of pearl harbour is preaty bad but i would have to say that the bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki was far worse.
Last edited by Darrmyth; 10-07-2005 at 01:55 AM.
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There is too many to choose one.
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Hiroshima and Nagasaki wouldn't count as military blunders though. Because of how singularly destructive they were, they did end the war. They weren't even the worst loss of life in WWII itself.
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yeah but it was still preaty bad. i dont think the desruction of lifes is anything other than evil and creul and i mean any life.
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I see you edited your posts to change blunder into loss.
If you want to stick to that era, and go for loss of life through military action, which is what I think you are going for, look up the firebombing of dresden, which cost more lives then hiroshima and nagasaki combined. The rape of nanking by Japan cost similar amounts of lost lives in China. The Nazi war machine's systematic, and brutual murder of Jews, Gays and Gypsies was certanly responsible for more deaths also.
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Why choose now? Man attempts to out do himself at every turn possible, even at attempts of his own destruction. As for the greatest military loss so far, I would not know as these statistics are rarely made public.
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The US bombing the Iraqs. The Iraqs destroyed the World Trade Center in New York, so they pretty much deserve it. Good thing that the US gave the Iraqs money to rebuild. I hope they don't attack us again.
First of all, the Bin Laden and Al qaida was behind the world trade center attack, he's from Afganistan.
anyway, I think the 1st and second world war, those were just terrible..
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Probably Pearl Harbor. . . . . . . That was a horrible battle.
for your information, bin laden is from a country called saudi arabia! not afghanistan!!Originally Posted by Axeit
thats realy hurtfull to say cuase my background is from iraq, and for the trade centre, i didn't have anything to do with it neither iraq, neither afghanistan, if America leave the little countries alone nothing happens, who the hell bush think he is, first they armed iraq to help it in persian gulf war, then they going take the iraq out becuase of weapon of mass destruction WHICH by the way where are those WEAPON of MASS destruction, and also muslim got nothing to do with it either, in Islam said if you kill an innocent person your not Muslim so thats fairly clear, you know there is a phrase we got is that leave the snake alone and it won't bite you, now im gonna finish my sentence with these, how long is it that america Government(not people, thats the most common mistake people make for pointing out) tried to control the world by guns?Originally Posted by Tri-Soilder
vietnam
Afghanistan
Iran(desert storm)
Iraq
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and tell me if you attack a snake what happens?
i just don't like people misunderstand us muslims and arabs.
(American government, have power and their affraid of losing it so what they do they try to control the world how, first they arm little countries, they sold 150-180 fighter jet to kuwait, then they armed iraq before and this is when iraq and kuwait had war, then mr. bush make speeches like i should be president becuase we live in a dangerouse world, well thanks to you you little brat, and look mr bush will go to iran and go to set it right their excuse nuclear reactor, if iran didn't had any oil trust me america would'nt even bother to argue about the reactor, im not just saying america, any government with power try to keep that power in any cost even their peoples lives, and they say well we have to sacrifice, well if you want to sacrifice peoples bet on your own stinking life not innocent people. and the world trade centre, comon guys that was planned by some government, how did they get the plane, how did they know where to hit to bring those reinforced building?)
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hmm....good answer Keitaru-San...I think this post should be named the most useless war ever....but we cant so looks like I will have to join in with the original question......I think that so far there is no war that had the most deaths yet..but I would say Hiroshima and nagasaki..but I think it will be world War 3...cuz Bush is probably the one to start it and he probably wont stop killing people..
"God told me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan'". "and I did". "and then god would tell me, 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq', and I did".....said by Bush himself....
and I said...' George W Bush has a history of acohol abuse'.
ok you're all seeming to ignore a couple of facts. Like that Saddam gave $20,000 to families of people who were suicide bombers at American Embassies. He also ran genocide of the kurds in the north of iraq, and that anyone who looked at him or any of his sons wrong would be taken out to the desert and killed then forgotten. We're still digging up mass execution graves. yeah we should never have taken him out of power, what a great man.
In Afghanastan, the Taliban was in power. The Afghani people were fighting WITH us against them. Because they too were a very cruel dictatorship type regime that killed many.
This war was 100% nessicary, it took out a major funding of terrorism and showed the other nations that any actions against America or the American people WILL elicit a response, and not one of a slight slap on the wrist. These people don't listen to diplomacy, we've tried that and it never worked. Its like when Germany took Poland, and said to the world "its just poland, we swear its ONLY poland..." and everyone went "oh ok" then Germany took another "but its ONLY that one as well, we swear this is the LAST one". Again the world looked the other way.... we have looked the other way several times, last time Iraq tried to take over Kuwait, we stopped them drove them out THEN tried the diplomacy... yeah it got us REALLY far.
Lastly, in response too "and I said...' George W Bush has a history of acohol abuse'."
Yeah but at least he didn't kill anyone doing it.... Ted Kennedy anyone?
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The 9-11 attack wasn't done by any government, unless you count al-quaida and the taliban. It's not like there was a secret weak point in the buildings. They just weren't built to be hit with HIJACKED 747 planes. Those planes were full of innocent people, not just purchased at random, and I am greatly resentfull of your implication here keitaru that it was done by someone other then al-quaida, who certanly have taken credit for it, on more then one occasion.
Our responce on Afghanistan was well and truly deserved. It should have happened after the first attack on the world trade center in 1993, or after the USS Cole bombing.
These blind and pointless conspiracy theories undermine any point you may be trying to make.
Also Desert Storm was against Iraq, not Iran. It was against Iraq because it invaded Kuwait, and was killing people. Again. As it often did. In nearly absurd numbers. The only reason they aren't fully absurd is that Hitler and Stalin managed to do it on a grander scale.
And war with the most deaths? Do you realize, at all, that during most of World War II there were thousands of causualties DAILY?
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If this war is about oil why am I still paying over $3.00 a gallon? If it was about oil I'd be paying the $1.23 I was in High school.
As Kaitou said, Desert storm was the invasion of Iraq into Kuwait so we had to help out Kuwait and push out Saddam and his regime.
The middle eastern countries hate america for the major reason that we've sided with Isreal in almost every conflict... Hi Seven Day War? We gave Isreal the patriot missles to defend themselves with. Your facts are so misconstrued its just rediculious. Any point that you hope to prove is riddled with media propaganda and misinformation, that it just turns moot.
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um...ah..I am no moderator or anything though mr.Kaitou Ace and ms.Princess Minako....but i think we are um...skiping the topic...why not make another post about that subject?.....^_^;.....
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