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    Default Doll by Aruka-P

    Here's the lyrics and my translation.

    http://vocaloidlyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Doll/ArukaP

    I'm unsure about what これ in the second last verse refers to:

    僕らは忘れてる あの時使ったはずの魔法

    これにかかった世界は全てが愛で溢れてた

    Is it the teddy bear? Like it was referred to as 彼 earlier when she was young but became a これ when she grew up to show she lost her childhood dreams?

    Or am I off on a tangent ... Any ideas?
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    Default Re: Doll by Aruka-P

    Hm, did you ever gain better understanding of this? I'm thinking it over and it does feel a bit strange - my instinct would say that これ refers to 魔法, given how it's commonly used with かける/かかる, but it does seem strange to use これ for a noun immediately before it.

    Personally, it doesn't really seem like an intentional play on これ to highlight animate vs inanimate to me, though I'm sure it could refer to the bear for other reasons - but this is just by feeling and I don't actually know anything, so :V
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    Default Re: Doll by Aruka-P

    in the end i just translated これ as "it" leaving it up to the reader's interpretation. personally i strive for translations that preserve ambiguities present in the original, although japanese and english are so different that it's a tall order to achieve consistently.

    grammatically i can't see how it refers to 魔法. if the phrase これに is associated with かかった then 魔法 is what is kakaru'ed so it would be これがかかった. I can't make any sense of it if これに were associated with 溢れてた. the only option left i can think of is that これに is the toy bear.

    you just reminded me, i forgot to submit the song to anime lyrics.

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    Default Re: Doll by Aruka-P

    https://eow.alc.co.jp/sp/search.html?q=魔法にかか&pg=1

    Hm, maybe I misread the relation between the two verbs, but it does seem to be a thing.
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    Default Re: Doll by Aruka-P

    brilliant! you've solved the puzzle! thanks so much!!

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