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    Default Amagi Brilliant Park - Extra Magic Hour

    Since it's been over a month and the original translator hasn't responded, I'm working on a new translation of this song, but like most songs off Decennia (even though the lyrics were written by a bunch of different people), it gets pretty weird in places, so I'd love a second (third, etc.) pair of eyes on it.

    パズルのピース はまるみたい
    違うカタチ つなげてみる
    バラバラだと 見えなかった景色が突然
    目の前に浮かんで 動き出すカンジ

    PAZURU no PIISU hamaru mitai
    chigau KATACHI tsunagete miru
    BARABARA da to mienakatta keshiki ga totsuzen
    me no mae ni ukande ugokidasu KANJI

    We try putting our different forms together
    Like fitting together puzzle pieces
    The scenery I couldn't see was torn apart
    Suddenly floats before my eyes and I feel I've started moving [1]

    新しい出会いの数だけ
    change my world 変わってく世界

    atarashii deai no kazu dake
    change my world kawatte'ku sekai

    Only the number of new encounters
    Changes my world

    騒然 鳴り止まぬMusic! 眠っていた ココロ響く
    君と私gradation 空を染める
    きっと 探していたのは こんな風に 笑い合う時
    虹と星と太陽
    輝くもの ぜんぶ集めて

    souzen nariyamanu Music! nemutte ita KOKORO hibiku
    kimi to watashi gradation sora o someru
    kitto sagashite ita no wa konna fuu ni waraiau toki
    niji to hoshi to taiyou
    kagayaku mono zenbu atsumete

    The loud, never-stopping music resonates through my heart that was sleeping
    The sky is colored by the gradation between you and me
    Surely what I was searching for was a time when I could laugh with you like this
    Gather up all the shining things--
    Rainbows and stars and the sun

    終わらないMagic Hour

    owaranai Magic Hour

    The Magic Hour never ends

    本当の自分 認めた時
    気付かされる 優しさがある
    空っぽなら きっとたくさんの愛情を
    ココロに受け入れる 余裕あるってこと

    hontou no jibun mitometa toki
    kidzukasareru yasashisa ga aru
    karappo nara kitto takusan no aijou o
    KOKORO ni ukeireru yoyuu aru tte koto

    There's a tenderness that you notice
    When you've accepted your true self
    If your heart is empty, that means
    That it has room to take in a lot of affection

    完璧な人はいないから
    need someone 君に出逢えた

    kanpeki nara hito wa inai kara
    need someone kimi ni deaeta

    Because no one is complete in themselves
    I needed someone, and I met you

    燦然 騒ぎ出したParade! 昨日からは 遠く離れ
    君と私celebration頬を染める
    ずっと 終わらないでって 胸の中願っているよ
    サクラ 渚 落ち葉と 雪も
    ずっとずっと 君と見たいよ

    sanzen sawagidashita Parade! kinou kara wa tooku hanare
    kimi to watashi celebration hoho o someru
    zutto owaranaide tte mune no naka negatte iru yo
    SAKURA nagisa ochiba to yuki mo
    zutto zutto kimi to mitai yo

    The brilliant, boisterous parade travels far away from yesterday
    Cheeks are colored by the celebration between you and me
    In my heart, I'm wishing that this will never end
    The cherry blossoms, the beach, the falling leaves and snow--
    I want to see them with you always, always

    終わらないMagic Hour

    owaranai Magic Hour

    The Magic Hour never ends

    何が起こっても 不思議じゃない世界で
    あとどれくらい 魔法は続くのかなあ
    スレ違うほど 探るよココロ
    まだ足りないよ Don't go, Magic Hour

    nani ga okotte mo fushigi ja nai sekai de
    ato dore kurai mahou wa tsudzuku no ka naa
    SUREchigau hodo saguru yo KOKORO
    mada tarinai yo Don't go, Magic Hour

    In this world where it's not strange for anything to happen
    I wonder how much longer this magic will continue
    My heart fumbles around so much it passes things by
    I'm not done yet--don't go, Magic Hour

    今見上げてる空は もう二度と見られない色
    儚いこのgradation 憶えていよう
    他愛ない出来事も 何気ない言葉もいつか
    消えてしまった後に
    かけがえのないものに変わってゆく?

    ima miagete'ru sora wa mou nidoto mirarenai iro
    hakanai kono gradation oboete iyou
    taai nai dekigoto mo nanigenai kotoba mo itsuka
    kiete shimatta ato ni
    kakegae no nai mono ni kawatte yuku...?

    The sky we're looking up at now is a color we'll never see again
    Let's memorize this fleeting gradation
    Will even silly events and casual words someday,
    After they've disappeared,
    Change into irreplaceable things...?

    騒然 鳴り止まぬMusic! 閉ざしていた ココロ響く
    君と私gradation 空を染める
    きっと 探していたのは こんな風に 笑い合う時
    輝くもの ぜんぶ集めて

    souzen nariyamanu Music! nemutte ita KOKORO hibiku
    kimi to watashi gradation sora o someru
    kitto sagashite ita no wa konna fuu ni waraiau toki
    kagayaku mono zenbu atsumete

    The loud, never-stopping music resonates through my heart that was sleeping
    The sky is colored by the gradation between you and me
    Surely what I was searching for was a time when I could laugh with you like this
    Gather up all the shining things

    終わらないMagic Hour

    owaranai Magic Hour

    The Magic Hour never ends

    [1] Is there a better way to phrase this? It's kind of a garden-path sentence as is, but I couldn't come up with anything better.

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    Default Re: Amagi Brilliant Park - Extra Magic Hour

    For [1], my idea would be:
    "The Scenery I couldn't see was torn apart and suddenly,
    it floats before my eyes, I feel like I've started moving "
    to avoid this strange "I feel I've" thing.

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    Default Re: Amagi Brilliant Park - Extra Magic Hour

    That's not quite what I was asking, although it does illustrate the problem with my current phrasing very clearly. My issue is, as far as I understand, the "~だと見えなかった" means that the singer couldn't see that the scenery was torn apart. Or maybe it's more like "the scenery that didn't look torn apart [to me, but in fact it was]"? So my translation as it stands is "[the scenery [that I couldn't see was torn apart]] suddenly floats before my eyes", not "[the scenery that I couldn't see] was torn apart." "... that I couldn't see was torn apart" is, in its entirety, a modifier for "scenery"; it's not the rest of the sentence. But on further consideration, I do think "... that didn't look torn apart" is a more accurate translation as well as not being so misleading, so I guess that answers that question. Though of course I'm still open to other suggestions--or to being told I'm misunderstanding the "だと見見える" construction, which I may be.

    "I feel I've..." is perfectly fine English grammar.

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    Default Re: Amagi Brilliant Park - Extra Magic Hour

    Great, my first post ever in this forum and it starts off with me completly missing your point.
    For the "だと見えなかった" part, as far i learned it and as far as its written in my grammar book, the "と見える" construction actually means that something looks like something when in fact it's not known (in other words: "sth. seems like sth.)
    So in this case, yes, I would go with "the scenery didn't look torn apart"-Translation. (wheter it's in fact torn apart or not, is not known)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghdf View Post
    Great, my first post ever in this forum and it starts off with me completly missing your point.
    For the "だと見えなかった" part, as far i learned it and as far as its written in my grammar book, the "と見える" construction actually means that something looks like something when in fact it's not known (in other words: "sth. seems like sth.)
    So in this case, yes, I would go with "the scenery didn't look torn apart"-Translation. (wheter it's in fact torn apart or not, is not known)
    That's okay! I've had worse reading comprehension failures myself. Anyway, thanks for the confirmation on the meaning of that construction--I'm never really sure how to look things like that up, at least in a way that results in explanations for non-native speakers as opposed to just a whole bunch of random instances of the construction being used. (I mean, sometimes that helps! But figuring things out based on context is sometimes not enough to make me confident I really understand a thing.)

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    Default Re: Amagi Brilliant Park - Extra Magic Hour

    Hm, that line reads more like 'the scenery I couldn't see due to it being in many pieces' to me. Fits with the puzzle metaphor.
    Last edited by bambooXZX; 01-21-2017 at 09:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bambooXZX View Post
    Hm, that line reads more like 'the scenery I couldn't see due to it being in many pieces' to me. Fits with the puzzle metaphor.
    That was my initial assumption considering it makes the most sense, but can ~だと mean "due to/because of"? I haven't encountered that usage before.

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    Default Re: Amagi Brilliant Park - Extra Magic Hour

    https://japanesetest4you.com/flashca...2%8B-to-mieru/

    That's were i got the explanation of "と見える"
    Maybe you want to check this and then see if you can "copy" this definition on your case.

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    Default Re: Amagi Brilliant Park - Extra Magic Hour

    I think the 「動き出すカンジ」 is referring to the scenery, not the narrator moving, though?
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    Default Re: Amagi Brilliant Park - Extra Magic Hour

    Quote Originally Posted by Happyblossom View Post
    I think the 「動き出すカンジ」 is referring to the scenery, not the narrator moving, though?
    Ah, you're right, of course. Stupid mistake on my part. Thank you!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghdf View Post
    https://japanesetest4you.com/flashca...2%8B-to-mieru/

    That's were i got the explanation of "と見える"
    Maybe you want to check this and then see if you can "copy" this definition on your case.
    Thanks, that looks like it could be a helpful resource! It definitely fits with how I was reading the line, but I'd still like to hear back from @bambooXZX about why they think it's "couldn't see because it was in pieces," because I really wanted it to mean that, but couldn't make it line up with the grammar as I understood it, and I'd like to know if there's something I'm missing with ~だと that would allow it to be read that way.
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    Default Re: Amagi Brilliant Park - Extra Magic Hour

    Hm, I guess 'due to' in my previous post may have been bad word choice on my part.

    I see this as the general-use と, as in 'this is what I said/thought when I did the thing' - in this case, バラバラだ just further explains 見えなかった. I'd say the special case with と見える is coincidental. This conclusion largely comes from accumulated experience and intuition, so it's kind of hard for me to find citations, but maybe a few examples of what I mean will help (just going off other works by Fujibayashi Shouko as a jumping-off point):

    -当たりまえだと頷いていたら
    -ミントは嫌いだと戻って来た
    -届くはずだと 腕をのばすよ
    Just examples where だと phrases are followed by verbs without special cases for と.

    So I guess you could say it's closer to the と of と言う, とする, etc? The だ isn't particularly important.
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    Default Re: Amagi Brilliant Park - Extra Magic Hour

    Quote Originally Posted by bambooXZX View Post
    Hm, I guess 'due to' in my previous post may have been bad word choice on my part.

    I see this as the general-use と, as in 'this is what I said/thought when I did the thing' - in this case, バラバラだ just further explains 見えなかった. I'd say the special case with と見える is coincidental. This conclusion largely comes from accumulated experience and intuition, so it's kind of hard for me to find citations, but maybe a few examples of what I mean will help (just going off other works by Fujibayashi Shouko as a jumping-off point):

    -当たりまえだと頷いていたら
    -ミントは嫌いだと戻って来た
    -届くはずだと 腕をのばすよ
    Just examples where だと phrases are followed by verbs without special cases for と.

    So I guess you could say it's closer to the と of と言う, とする, etc? The だ isn't particularly important.
    All right, I'm sold. Thanks for taking the time to explain.

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