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    Quote Originally Posted by Ωmega View Post
    Games with the highest sales? Guess what?? Theyre Nintendo games. In face, they dominate the top 10 games
    You do know that half of those games are aimed to casuals, right?

    Not that is a bad thing since the Wii sold the most units and it's games as well, but it's aimed for a bigger audience (casuals), not to mention it also has the people in-between. It's the reason why Sony and MS created these accessories, they know casuals is where the money is at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ωmega View Post
    Just because its aimed for younger audiences doesnt make it a "toy". It plays games, games with high replay value, games with HUGE fanbases [mostly adults]. Its a console. Theyve been making consoles for years and have been making games since before either of us were born. Back in the 90s, arcade games were "hardcore". Nintendo updates its formula but keeps to the core of it, knowing theres still a huge fanbase for those of us who grew up going to the arcade to play Donkey Kong for hours, or freaking out when we got an NES and refused to pull away from Mario brothers.

    Games with the highest sales? Guess what?? Theyre Nintendo games. In face, they dominate the top 10 games

    PS and Xbox *wishes* it could get the numbers Nintendo does but probably never will. Looks like they do a lot of spanking for being just a "toy"
    But they *make* toys. And there's nothing wrong with making a toy. Toys have a huge market. Look at frickin' Lego. They have erected entire amusement parks themed around their toys. In fact, I'll argue the fact that Nintendo embraces it's role as a toy-maker is what makes the company so successful. They stick to what they're good at.

    Microsoft and Sony's attempt at competing with Nintendo in the casual genre on the other hand is dumb. They should also stick to what they're good at (which isn't the casual market).

    And comparing sales is utterly pointless. You might as well compare the sales of movie genres and argue that comedies are *much* better than horror films. They are different markets.



    Hey look, Japan made a movie about me!

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    The fact of the matter is Nintendo is not a casual console. Do we in American and PAL regions only get casual games? Most of the time, we do. It sucks but thats how it is. Nintendo of Japan has a huge collection of "hardcore" games that we'll never play without buying a Japanese console or hacking our own. We have a lot of game restrictions in America that tons of Nintendo games break, while the bulk of PS and Xbox games are created here or in PAL areas, thus adhering to the necessary standards.

    Honestly, I dont see games like CoD or Metal Gear to be "hardcore". I sit back, I shoot. Big deal.

    And yes, you can compare genres, even with games. Many will claim FPS is better than RPGS, or vice versa. Saying you cant is ridiculous, because people do it every day. Hell, you yourself Eris are [basically] saying PS and Xobx are somehow 'better' because theyre 'hardcore' and Nintendo is casual, therefore is inferior. Its the same thing as saying comedies are better than horrors, the example you used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ωmega View Post
    The fact of the matter is Nintendo is not a casual console. Do we in American and PAL regions only get casual games? Most of the time, we do. It sucks but thats how it is. Nintendo of Japan has a huge collection of "hardcore" games that we'll never play without buying a Japanese console or hacking our own. We have a lot of game restrictions in America that tons of Nintendo games break, while the bulk of PS and Xbox games are created here or in PAL areas, thus adhering to the necessary standards.

    Honestly, I dont see games like CoD or Metal Gear to be "hardcore". I sit back, I shoot. Big deal.

    And yes, you can compare genres, even with games. Many will claim FPS is better than RPGS, or vice versa. Saying you cant is ridiculous, because people do it every day. Hell, you yourself Eris are [basically] saying PS and Xobx are somehow 'better' because theyre 'hardcore' and Nintendo is casual, therefore is inferior. Its the same thing as saying comedies are better than horrors, the example you used.
    That's not a generic shooter. MG is a stealth game. Also, it's silly you put a game series from 1987 (that originated from Nintendo btw) with COD, a current gen series. Bad Maru.

    Also, the Nintendo Wii is a casual console, it was mostly aimed to get the casual audience. Sure, it has it's core-games that gained Nintendo fans but the Nintendo Wii is still mostly casual in mind.

    However, the WiiU is not really casual...it just won't have any games until 2014. That's another topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou+ View Post
    That's not a generic shooter. MG is a stealth game. Also, it's silly you put a game series from 1987 (that originated from Nintendo btw) with COD, a current gen series. Bad Maru.

    Also, the Nintendo Wii is a casual console, it was mostly aimed to get the casual audience. Sure, it has it's core-games that gained Nintendo fans but the Nintendo Wii is still mostly casual in mind.

    However, the WiiU is not really casual...it just won't have any games until 2014. That's another topic.
    The earlier MGs were, yeah....MGS4? That was more of an interactive movie. Metal Gear Rising? Hack and slash.
    One of the PS3s biggest games was Heavy Rain....an interactive story. Sit back and do quick time events! So hardcore~

    Personally, I consider 'hardcore' games to be ones that I have to think. No, Mario doesnt really make me think, but the Fatal Frames that came out [again, sadly, just for Japan....doesnt mean I didnt get emulators] made me think. Professor Layton makes me REALLY think. Portal makes me think [not a Nintendo game, but you get the idea]

    Now, before anyone goes tossing out 'lol, you need skillz' any game I have in my library...*any* game, has been played an beaten by my younger cousins. Who are eight. Which, isnt that the bulk of the people on live of CoD? Or do I just get shafted when I do decide I want to play CoD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ωmega View Post
    The earlier MGs were, yeah....MGS4? That was more of an interactive movie. Metal Gear Rising? Hack and slash.
    One of the PS3s biggest games was Heavy Rain....an interactive story. Sit back and do quick time events! So hardcore~

    Personally, I consider 'hardcore' games to be ones that I have to think. No, Mario doesnt really make me think, but the Fatal Frames that came out [again, sadly, just for Japan....doesnt mean I didnt get emulators] made me think. Professor Layton makes me REALLY think. Portal makes me think [not a Nintendo game, but you get the idea]

    Now, before anyone goes tossing out 'lol, you need skillz' any game I have in my library...*any* game, has been played an beaten by my younger cousins. Who are eight. Which, isnt that the bulk of the people on live of CoD? Or do I just get shafted when I do decide I want to play CoD?
    MGS4 wasn't an interactive movie...lol it had a lot of gameplay, it just had lot of cutscenes. MGR is a hack and slash, but it's not a generic one tbh. It's a good game but not the best MG obviously.
    I don't thin anyone called Heavy Rain hardcore tbh.

    In case you didn't notice, I'm calling the Wii casual cause of the Wii Move, motion blah blah casual, not the other games.

    COD is casual, imo not hardcore because it's aimed for the casual audience. It's something so simple and became an acceptable thing.

    BTW, the amount of skill is a factor for hardcore, and Nintendo has those too. Casuals wound't play games like the Fatal Frame games on the Wii.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou+ View Post
    MGS4 wasn't an interactive movie...lol it had a lot of gameplay, it just had lot of cutscenes. MGR is a hack and slash, but it's not a generic one tbh. It's a good game but not the best MG obviously.
    I don't thin anyone called Heavy Rain hardcore tbh.

    In case you didn't notice, I'm calling the Wii casual cause of the Wii Move, motion blah blah casual, not the other games.

    COD is casual, imo not hardcore because it's aimed for the casual audience. It's something so simple and became an acceptable thing.

    BTW, the amount of skill is a factor for hardcore, and Nintendo has those too. Casuals wound't play games like the Fatal Frame games on the Wii.
    Especially not now because NoA wont give them to us ;____;

    And ok, I see your points. Though MGS4 was bulk cutscenes. I cant barely remember the game play aside from the boss battles....those were fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ωmega View Post
    Especially not now because NoA wont give them to us ;____;

    And ok, I see your points. Though MGS4 was bulk cutscenes. I cant barely remember the game play aside from the boss battles....those were fun.
    Okay, got it.

    Hardcore is what you invest hours on and casual is the lolz okay, simple, easy to get into stuff. (Kinda like how FE:A made two modes, a classic and a "casual" mode.

    But I think still is kind of subjective. It's just that Xbox/PS3/PC Gamers like to be anal about it and at the same time Nintendo fans are on denial about some of their games not being casual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou+ View Post
    Okay, got it.

    Hardcore is what you invest hours on and casual is the lolz okay, simple, easy to get into stuff. (Kinda like how FE:A made two modes, a classic and a "casual" mode.

    But I think still is kind of subjective. It's just that Xbox/PS3/PC Gamers like to be anal about it and at the same time Nintendo fans are on denial about some of their games not being casual.
    Yes, very well said =D

    Though I'll be the first to admit that most of the Nintendo games NoA actually gives us is casual, which I constantly shake an angry fist at
    But it doesnt mean its completely casual. We just get the really short end of the stick


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ωmega View Post
    Yes, very well said =D

    Though I'll be the first to admit that most of the Nintendo games NoA actually gives us is casual, which I constantly shake an angry fist at
    But it doesnt mean its completely casual. We just get the really short end of the stick


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    That's why I don't really discuss hardcore and casual much, sure some games are obvious casual but games like Uncharted are becoming casual infested so it's not an easy argument.

    But I still stick to the fact that hardcore and casual depends on how much time you invest.

    Most deff. Wonder how that will play out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou+ View Post
    That's why I don't really discuss hardcore and casual much, sure some games are obvious casual but games like Uncharted are becoming casual infested so it's not an easy argument.

    But I still stick to the fact that hardcore and casual depends on how much time you invest.

    Most deff. Wonder how that will play out.
    Well, Wii U so far has been promising more hardcore games. Its a wait and see sort of thing.


    PS4 related- Looks like the release date may have been leaked


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    The user interface is decent.

    And well, November 21st seems about right tbh.

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    it sounds freaking awesome but i don't think i'd buy when its out

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    SO, Xbox does a one...eighty [HARHAR] and PS3 releases an update that bricks a bunch of systems.


    This will be VERY interesting to watch play out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ωmega View Post
    SO, Xbox does a one...eighty [HARHAR] and PS3 releases an update that bricks a bunch of systems.


    This will be VERY interesting to watch play out
    Well, to be fair, one still has a stigma of a bad intentional choice and the other is just a mistake and not intentional. Admittedly a very big mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    Well, to be fair, one still has a stigma of a bad intentional choice and the other is just a mistake and not intentional. Admittedly a very big mistake.
    Lets not forget the huge PSN hack that happened a while back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ωmega View Post
    Lets not forget the huge PSN hack that happened a while back
    Going to guess you're referring to the lack of security on personal information and not the cracking of the firmware. Though that last one was a response to removing the optional OS. Eh, they both have there licks and you have to deal with them as they come. Right now it's making sure what Microsoft did isn't going to fly.

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    November 21st? That's a Thursday. EVERYTHING IN ENGLAND LAUNCHES ON FRIDAYS, WTF.

    ... I say November 22nd. So, you Americans will probably get it the 19th. because you always get everything three days before the UK does. <__>

    well ... maybe with this region-locking being removed, games'll probably start to show up here on Tuesdays. At least downloadable, not sure if video game stores will be willing to start selling stuff on weird days. I never understood why it's always Friday here, and always Tuesday in America. What do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranshiin View Post
    November 21st? That's a Thursday. EVERYTHING IN ENGLAND LAUNCHES ON FRIDAYS, WTF.

    ... I say November 22nd. So, you Americans will probably get it the 19th. because you always get everything three days before the UK does. <__>

    well ... maybe with this region-locking being removed, games'll probably start to show up here on Tuesdays. At least downloadable, not sure if video game stores will be willing to start selling stuff on weird days. I never understood why it's always Friday here, and always Tuesday in America. What do?
    Thursday for Japan, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou+ View Post
    Thursday for Japan, lol.
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    Maybe this is the Year of Synchronised Game Launch Dates... it's long overdue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranshiin View Post
    :|

    Maybe this is the Year of Synchronised Game Launch Dates... it's long overdue.
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    The Wii console is no more casual than Xbox and Playstation. In fact, it could be argued that Nintendo has more core games on their platform than their competition. The Wii has some of the best core games to date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayu 「あゆ」 View Post
    The Wii console is no more casual than Xbox and Playstation. In fact, it could be argued that Nintendo has more core games on their platform than their competition. The Wii has some of the best core games to date.
    The main stream gaming media doesn't consider a lot of that stuff to be "core" so the wannabe core gamers who are more mainstream gamers than anything else wont see it that way. If it's not a FPS, WRPG, or a Sports Sim then it's not "core".

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