im inbetween because some pot can help people with cancer but some is not so im in the middle so i have no response so i just voted!!!!
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i say pot should stay illegal. let em troll the pot heads as long as possible.
It should certainly be legal. It is a medicine which can help all sorts of diseases, and it's much safer than alcohol. I mean it's a plant! Totally natural. And if it were legal it could be policed much better and would be harder for kids to get hold of, and much less money going to dealers and bikies.
It's a mystery to me why marijuana is illegal in the first place. I am not afraid to admit that I smoke it on a daily basis (mainly to relieve stress and inspire my art). Government authorities would treat me like a criminal and society will turn me into an unfavorable cliche, but in the end, it's not worth punishing and doesn't deserve such a bad reputation. If marijuana were to be legalized, it would most likely be taxed and controlled by the government. I don't like this idea, however, it would generate revenue and save money spent (or should I say wasted) on prohibiting it.
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No, don't legalize pots. They're evil, just as much as cigarettes and alcohol.
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Why doesn't this poll have an "I don't care much" thing xDD
anyways, I really don't care much, it would have good sides and bad sides (the lists!!! -brick'd-)
Reasons why it should
1. More money for stores that sell it... yay money
2. Less of this drug dealing nonsense around.. geebus, I hate to look out my window and see 2 suspicious people trade cash in for a white small bag...
3. Less nitwits would get arrested for just having it around
now for bad reasons..
1. Adults would buy it, and then give it to the idiotic 16 year old who gave him the cash to buy.. just like cigarets ..
2. More pot heads would be made if its easier to get
more good reasons then bad but there might be more who knows lol
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How did i miss this thread?! But im not shure what to think of it, i dont have my facts straight and to many people convince me either it's the anti-christ or an herb sent from heavan. All i know is that i like to smoke it every now and then.
The majority of people tend to split one of two ways
- Weed is immoral so I will find/fund anything that suggests it is dangerous to your health.
- I love weed so I will find anything that suggests it has health benefits and ignore anything contrary to this.
Its a subject were severe confirmation bias is apt to run riot.
At the end of the day weed is not a miracle drug. When, used in precise dosages, can be useful to combat the side effects of chemo should it be required. Some people find it puts them in a good mood, makes them appreciate things more etc. Some people will have negative reactions to it althought they tend not to be too extreme. I had some trouble with paranoia when I tried it. Its not something I particularly enjoy because of this.
People seem to aim at current legal drugs stating they are worse, but thats not important. What is important is whether the benefits of legalisation outweigh the negatives.
For me the benefits outweigh the negatives. The largest positive form legalisation to me is the repairing of relationships between the police and the public as well as the lower number of people in prisons. Prisons are an attrocious waste of taxpayer money.
I would like a breathalizer provided to the police service to test if people are under the influence whilst driving. If I can smell weed in the air surely theres a way to create a breathalizer for this.
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Lol, my first post being in a thread about pot...
Anyway. I can definitely see some benefits for legalizing pot, but I find the need to break it down into medical use and recreational uses.
Medicinal: It's been proven time and again that marijuana has benefits in the medical community, particularly with patients who are undergoing chemotherapy treatments. One of the side-effects of chemotherapy is that patients lose all semblance of an appetite, or are unable to keep anything down. Now, what's one of the most well-known side-effects of marijuana? If you said "getting the munchies," then you win a cookie. And some cheetos. And a microwavable burrito. After smoking just one joing, people undergoing chemo treatments generally have had their appetites return and are able to keep their meals down. If not for good, then at least long enough to get some nutrition. Now, why is it (beyond the obvious, of course) that it's so important for cancer patients to be able to eat? When a person's body is going into starvation mode, their immune system is compromised. A compromised immune system means that along with fighting cancer, the patient is vulnerable to diseases that, had they had a healthier immune system, they'd be able to shrug off. And so far, there are no good legalized drugs on the market that works nearly as well, nor are as cost-efficient.
There have been other studies done indicating marijuana can help with other ailments, but more research has been done with marijuana in conjunction with chemo treatments, so that's what I concentrated on.
Recreational use: Ah, now here's the sticking point for some. Some people believe that marijuana for recreational use should be banned completely, others are all for it. Personally, I don't partake, but I'm all for others to be able to smoke it, as long as they're under the same restrictions as cigarette smokers (no smoking in restaurants, for example.) If it's regulated, taxed, and sold at your local Qwik-E-Mart, then it'd be a major boost to the economy. I don't think it'd lead to more and more people picking up smoking marijuana: it's so prevalent that it's easy to find someone to buy off of, and anyone who is interested in trying it would be able to, pretty much no matter where they live in the US.
Another advantage: most of the people in prison are in due to non-violent drug-related activities, in many cases involving marijuana. In some areas, rapists and thieves have been let out of prison early just because there's no room. Less people in prison due to marijuana = more space for dangerous criminals who NEED to be locked up.
Disadvantages: Don't be fooled - you are still breathing in BURNING LEAF MATTER deep into your lungs and holding it. That causes damage to your throat and lungs that can build up over time. Using a water pipe is slightly safer than smoking a joint, but there are still health risks. Not to mention that, like alcohol, it is a mind-altering substance. However, unlike alcohol, trace amounts can stay in your system for up to two weeks, which can make drug testing difficult. And don't give me, "Oh, it's natural! How can it be bad for you?" You know what? DEADLY NIGHTSHADE is 'all-natural,' I'd like to see you roll it up and smoke it.
So yeah, I say legalize it, but restrict it like alcohol or cigarettes. And tax the hell out of it - that'll bring some revenue in.
Just my two cents, though :P
Where i live all Drugs are legal up to a certain ammount. So i could go do lines of coke in front of the police station in a windy day and the cops would have to groove on the dust...
I think all drugs should be legal in all countries... If a person wants to kill themselves they can , so why are they not allowed to do as much drugs as they want?
Totally cool with Pot tough.
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What effects do you think legalizing everything would have in food market? Could we sell food with these drugs included? What of the effect on pharmaceuticals as a whole. Once you remove a vetting system all sorts of drugs with horrendous side effects could start being prescribed for things like the sniffles.
Also you have to remember, there are a lot of stupid people out there. I remember seeing interviews with teens in the UK when a type of plant fertilizer instantly became a popular recreational drug. The problem there was that it was not safe. No where near safe. It was a potent mixture of methadrone and a ton of industrial cleaning fluids which run riot. In the interview the reporter asked one of the girls if she was worried about the dangers of the drug and the girl replied, "no because if its legal then it couldn't damage me".
Yes and make it a source of tax.
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People are given more choices and will have to be more careful about what they buy, which should always be the case. People should be suspicious of all products which they aren't familiar with, rather than assuming something is safe because the FDA said so. This is how government intervention causes sane people to throw out their common sense. They give them a false sense of security.
Oh god, if we have to make laws with these kinds of people in mind, I'm not sure if we can keep fishing rods and gasoline legal.Also you have to remember, there are a lot of stupid people out there. I remember seeing interviews with teens in the UK when a type of plant fertilizer instantly became a popular recreational drug. The problem there was that it was not safe. No where near safe. It was a potent mixture of methadrone and a ton of industrial cleaning fluids which run riot. In the interview the reporter asked one of the girls if she was worried about the dangers of the drug and the girl replied, "no because if its legal then it couldn't damage me".
I find this very shortsighted, as pot is, without a doubt, the product with the least amount of lung/liver pollution in it.
I think this should be legal, as the government can tax it (like here in Holland). We also have a law you can only buy a few grams of it per time period, so no one can really become an addict. But of course, while high, driving should be prohibited as it limits your response skills.
Pots may have the least amount of lung/liver pollution as you say, but that doesn't overrule that they have side effects on our body. Chances are even though it's made legal and with limited amount per time, there will be drug addicts who will illegally obtain more dosage than is necessary. I've also heard that drug usage per person will increase over time.
Probably it's just me, but I keep thinking about the drug abuse and drug wars from movies that I watched, so I've always thought that pots are evil. Nothing personal, just my opinion on things.
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So you take your opinion from movies. Yeah, that'll get you far. Please know the facts before posting.
Side effects? What side effects? How you can puke from a bad trip? Yeah, that happens, but it's still better than alcohol poisoning. I don't see people buying more weed as a serious problem, as people can LEGALLY obtain alcohol while they're absolutely addicted. Weed, unlike cocaine, heroin, and other stuff, has a far lower addiction rate, too.
I smoked irregulary pot and I don't think that it's sooo dangerous. Look at netherlands there is pot legalized and it works.
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I never was that interested in pot. I'm not a fan of things that alter my state of mind. I do drink alcohol, but only with people I know. Anyway, marijuana is really similar to alcohol. It's perfectly safe and harmless if used right. So honestly, either ban both, or legalize both cause this is just silly.
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This is how i look at it. No one has ever come home and beat the living s**t out of their wife and kids from smoking da ganja. Cant say the same about alcohol. Yet alcohol is legal.
I personally don't smoke anymore. Military career forbids me from doing so. and i'm perfectly fine with that. However, Weed is such a small thing and so much better for you than the things that are legal such as tobacco, alcohol, spice, and the zombie bath salts.
I think there are much bigger problems in the world than some guy getting stoned at home and eating cookies while watching cartoons.
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weed is one of the only substances you can take that is classified as non-addictive.
as far as what you see in the movies, its not entirely untrue. but you gotta remember, its not the drug its self causing the problem. its the money that causes those wars. the same thing happened when alcohol was illegal. same would happen if tobacco was illegal. the drugs themselves don't cause gang wars. its always the money.
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Alcohol is certainily the biggest home/family-breaking substance, think I don't know many cases of disrupted families, beaten wifes or sons, car-driving deaths or so due to smoking tobacco or pot, so that's what's a real problem and definetely not that stoned guy at home, which most probably won't harm anyone else.
And not being addictive it should be even less harmful (while alcohol and also tobacco are!), just alcohol is seen as a nice disinhibiting (not sure's an existing word) and therefore most useful in parties and other kinds of meetings, therefore sociable acceptable, so that's just a huge hypocrisy! And hypocrisy is a most untolerable thing for me, I'm afraid.
I had never smoked pot nor intend to do it but that doesn't matter as I think I can see the facts as pretty obvious, pot is defintely not worse than alcohol or other legalized substances, so guess it should be legalized then!
And as @bug said it's just silly to allow alcohol to be legal and pot not to be, either legalize both or forbit alcohol
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Here in Holland its quite legal to smoke it, but illegal to grow the plants. Didn't hear any story about people going crazy on pot, so why not. Make it legal all over the world!!!
Yeah, I know that, been in Amesterdan a year ago (though just a few weeks after getting back I heard in a Portuguese newcast that they were going to change the legislation to make it ilegal... guess they didn't, right?)
Indeed, it is as I said, hypocrisy as per example compared to alcohol, that causes a lot of direct kills every year all around the world due to the most various situations! And it's legal so by that logical pot should be too
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