Fallout: New Vegas discussion thread.

[Skylar1]

Well, it has been released today. Time to start up discussion.

All things about the game as you play through it, planing on buying it an buying it/etc. go in here. And of course things about the game that you like/don't like.

Basically, post your experiences as you play in here. have fun~

[Eris]

Not released until Friday here in yourep. Eargerly awaiting it's release, though.

[Bulf]

I've never really gotten into Fallout, though 3 was fairly amusing to watch. If anything I'll get it for someone else, and watch.

[SigmaSD]

Its okay so far. Hopefully it picks up soon.

[-Batman-]

Step 1) Take the wacky wasteland trait at character creation.
Step 2) Go to Nipton
Step 3) Examine bone piles
Step 4) See two burned up skeletons named Owen and Beru
Step 5) Go to New Vegas with a crazy old man and learn the ways of the wastes and become a Courier like your father before you.

[Inactive Account 0061]

.... Friggin..... Friday...

[Hanamaru Kunikida]

I'm liking this game so far. ^^

[Eris]

Much of the original SPECIAL from Fallout 3 remains intact, with very few new features being added in the way of character creation or stats. Weapons now have a minimum strength requirement to be used, like in Fallout and Fallout 2.

One significant change is that there are no bobbleheads available with permanent increase to SPECIAL scores. The only way to permanently increase SPECIAL scores in Fallout: New Vegas is by purchasing expensive implants from Dr. Usanagi at the New Vegas Medical Clinic.


I'm so happy to hear this. Go Obsidian, dealing with the stupid min-maxing that ensued in Fallout 3 where people made broken characters that were all INT to max their skill points.

[Skylar1]

Oh yeah! Just picked it up right now; about to pop it in.

Hm... wondering if I should play it on hardcore mode. oo;

Sounds really cool. This is going to be great~

[Eris]

I LOVE THIS GAME SO MUCH. IT FIXES EVERYTHING THAT WAS WRONG WITH "FALLOUT" 3.

Hardcore mode is a mixed bag. I like some of the features, like healing over time and ammo weight, but maintaining hunger and thirst is more of a nuisance.

[Furore]

I LOVE THIS GAME SO MUCH. IT FIXES EVERYTHING THAT WAS WRONG WITH "FALLOUT" 3.

Hardcore mode is a mixed bag. I like some of the features, like healing over time and ammo weight, but maintaining hunger and thirst is more of a nuisance.

This.
My God, I haven't enjoyed a game this much in almost a decade.
I've hit Freeside with my favourite Caravaneer babe and my pet eyebot after doing many sidequests including some that had me chuckling at the absurdity. Brings back fond memories of the first two games...

[Skylar1]

I LOVE THIS GAME SO MUCH. IT FIXES EVERYTHING THAT WAS WRONG WITH "FALLOUT" 3.

If you remember, I've never actually played the first and second games.

If -this- is what you meant, then I definitely take back what I said before. <3

This game is massively improved from 3. The reputation system is better, the dialogue between characters is expanded, NOW you can actually level to 30 (not 20), and the perks and skills have been updated! This is my new favorite game.

--

anyways, currently poking around with the Ghost Town Gunfight. After that, I'm going to do some exploring.

Also, I can't wait to find out what they decided to put where "area 51" is supposed to be.

[Eris]

Fallout New Vegas is so much more like Fallout 1 and 2 than Fallout 3. The overall ambiance, especially the (off-radio) music is much more the way it's supposed to. The RPG-aspect is much more true to the old games (with perks every couple of levels instead of constantly, traits, and general usefulness of base stats other than INT). The quests are much are more Fallout-like, in that they're actually interesting and well-written, and not dumbed down for "casual" gamers with an attention span of 3.5 seconds who fear they're no longer cool if they play a video game for more than 10 minutes straight. In the end, Fallout 3 just felt shallow and gimmicky compared to it's ancestors. But New Vegas manages to capture the setting much better, and just feels much more genuine.

[Skylar1]

Oh wonderful.. I couldn't reach Sunnyside in time because she was on top of those.. rocky hill things, and now she got killed by Geckos. Mission failed. .A.

... So uh, I guess I'll be doing that 'sploring a little ahead of schedule. oo;

I'm going to start by taking the highway down to Prinn.

[Eris]

And that is why you save a lot (auto-saves go far, but not far enough).

[Skylar1]

And that is why you save a lot (auto-saves go far, but not far enough).
True. I will most certainly keep that in mind for the future. One mission failed isn't that big of a lose though.

Oh, also, decided to pick the "cherchez La Femme" as my first perk.

Edit:

The tumbleweeds make me lol.

[Eris]

The old west feel would be totally lost without the tumbleweeds.

[Inactive Account 0061]

Ok so I got my hands on New Vegas now

Started on Hardcore mode, and I like the fact you need water/food and sleep. Also like that you only get perks every other level and stuff like that. Makes your character more unique and more replay value. Only real ''issue'' I got is that the music is a little ''meh'' compared to Fallout 3... Also way to few tracks.. But I love everything else <3 (except when I got some kind of infinite loading bug....) also add me on Xbox live :3 : Dryaxx


Character info, so far (will be updated)
Level 6 - Good - Peacekeeper
SPECIAL : (Str, Per, End, Int, Agi) = 6.. (Cha, Lck) = 5

Skills

Barter : 16
Energy Weapons : 17
Explosives : 17
Guns : 43
Lockpick : 33
Medicine : 23
Melee Weapons : 17
Repair : 44
Science : 20
Sneak : 17
Speech : 48
Survival : 22
Unarmed : 17

PERKS

Educated
Lead Belly
Rapid Reload

REP

Goodsprings - Liked
NCR - Neutral
Powder Gangers - Shunned
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Also, share your own character stats :3?

[Eris]

Like two levels ago (like at level 8?), this was where I was at:

S 6
P 8 (+1 bonus from wearing a hat)
E 5
C 5
I 6
A 5 (-1 penalty from wearing armor)
L 5


Barter 30
Energy Weapons 36
Explosives :22
Guns 68
Lock pick 21
Medicine 17
Melee Weapons 17
Repair 25
Science 45
Sneak 15
Speech 45
Survival 30
Unarmed 15

Perks:
Bug Stomper (an award for killing insects)
Commando
Educated
Intense Training
Toughness

Traits:
Four eyes
Weird Wasteland

Goodsprings - Idolized
Great Khans - Accepted
NCR - Accepted
Novac - Accepted
Powder Gangers - Villified

[Inactive Account 0061]

It.. Got... BlackJack <3.. This game is now GOTY

[Eris]

What did you expect from a game set in and around vegas?!

[Skylar1]

So I'm Lvl 3 right now (don't laugh, I have to work like.. a lot >_>)

anyways,

Strength 4
Perception 6
Endurance 5
Charisma 6
Intelligence 8
Agility 6
Luck 5

Skills:

Barter 25
Energy Weapons 27
Explosives 12
Guns 19
Lockpick 20
Medicine 26
Melee Weapons 10 (+)
Repair 28
Science 50
Sneak 32
Speech 27 (+)
Survival 22
Unarmed 10

Perks:

Cherchez La Femme
Good Natured
Trigger Discipline

GoodSprings; Accepted

I decided to play through without hardcore mode, because that way I could do it the second time time through for replay value.

I'm in Prinn right now,

reprogrammed the robot to be the sheriff
in the My kind of Town quest.

Going to just head East from here and see what else I find.

[Hanamaru Kunikida]

I actually like these perks a lot better.

[Eris]

Yeah. It completely kills the RPG aspect to hand them out like candy. This way, your character build actually matters. You can no longer be the master of all trades.


I decided to play through without hardcore mode, because that way I could do it the second time time through for replay value.

The faction system pretty much guarantees at least two or three interesting replays as it is. If you side up with one big faction, you pretty much exclude the possibility of being friendly with the others, and lose access to their quests. You can play neutral, but that's yet another interesting replay that excludes possibilities. The fact that it's game over when you finish the main quest actually makes much more sense in New Vegas than it did in consequence-free Fallout 3, seeing as how you can't explore the whole game with the same character because of the bridges you burn in doing so.

[Skylar1]

Wow, the dynamite is like super effective.

It causes more damage than the grenades did in 3

[Eris]

Well, it's frickin' DYNAMITE.

Here are some general tips: If you want to deal with radscorpions, you NEED armor-piercing ammo (or a flamethrower, but that's not very effective). They have unbefrickin'lievably high damage threshold, so pretty much anything else will do like 1 damage per shot. Explosives -might- work, as well.

Hollow point ammo are also good to keep around, if you run into big low-DT targets. But it's not nearly as effective. I only use them against nightkin, as those guys have insane HP, like no DT and do enough damage to need to go down very quickly.

Melee damage seems to wreck armor very quickly, so it's a good idea to stay away from melee opponents if you want your armor to stay in one piece.

As well as the visible land mines, there are now barely visible concealed mines.

[Inactive Account 0061]

Finally found my old friend from Fallout 3 <3, the Hunting Rifle (god damn it's overpowered in New Vegas) Anyhows, update on my stats.


Level 14 - Very Good - Shield of Hope

SPECIAL

Str : 6
Per : 7+
End : 6
Cha :6+
Int : 6
Agi : 6
Luk : 5

SKILLS

Barter : 27+
Energy Weapons : 19+
Explosives : 19+
Guns : 72+
Lockpick : 57+
Medicine : 45
Melee Weapons : 17
Repair : 65
Science : 20
Sneak : 17
Speech : 63+
Survival : 31
Unarmed : 17

PERKS

Educated
Lady Killer
Lead Belly
Life Giver
Light Step Ranger Takedown
Rapid Reload
Search and Mark
Spotter
Strong Back

REP

Followers of the Apocalypse - Neutral
Freeside - Accepted
Goodsprings - Liked
Great Khans - Accepted
NCR - Accepted
Novac - Idolized
Powder Gangers - Shunned
The Strip - Neutral

WEAPON OF USE

Hunting Rifle +(Extended Mag)

ARMOR OF USE

1st Recon Beret (Per +1, Crit. Chan +5)
Bounty Hunter Duster ( Char +1. Guns +5)
Sunglasses

[Skylar1]

The faction system pretty much guarantees at least two or three interesting replays as it is. If you side up with one big faction, you pretty much exclude the possibility of being friendly with the others, and lose access to their quests. You can play neutral, but that's yet another interesting replay that excludes possibilities. The fact that it's game over when you finish the main quest actually makes much more sense in New Vegas than it did in consequence-free Fallout 3, seeing as how you can't explore the whole game with the same character because of the bridges you burn in doing so.
It does give a much better sense of depth to the game. I mean, in 3, the worst thing you could do was.. blow up megaton, which, didn't really give you that much reward..


Well, it's frickin' DYNAMITE.

Here are some general tips: If you want to deal with radscorpions, you NEED armor-piercing ammo (or a flamethrower, but that's not very effective). They have unbefrickin'lievably high damage threshold, so pretty much anything else will do like 1 damage per shot. Explosives -might- work, as well.
Why oh why do the scorpions have such a high DT. At least, whenever one of those bugger decides to come into my house uninvited, I get it with a shoe or something and it's done with in one hit. lol


Hollow point ammo are also good to keep around, if you run into big low-DT targets. But it's not nearly as effective. I only use them against nightkin, as those guys have insane HP, like no DT and do enough damage to need to go down very quickly.
Are the nightkins the same as the deathclaws?



Melee damage seems to wreck armor very quickly, so it's a good idea to stay away from melee opponents if you want your armor to stay in one piece.
I typically avoid melee, just because the loss of safety by being in such close contact outweighs the benefits.


As well as the visible land mines, there are now barely visible concealed mines.
Oh cool, so now we get actually -look- for mines like we're supposed to? <3


Finally found my old friend from Fallout 3 <3, the Hunting Rifle (god damn it's overpowered in New Vegas) Anyhows, update on my stats.
that was one of my fav weapons as well~

repair it to maximum efficiency, and let loose.

[Eris]

Why oh why do the scorpions have such a high DT. At least, whenever one of those bugger decides to come into my house uninvited, I get it with a shoe or something and it's done with in one hit. lol

Well, they have a carapace that is like several inches thick. Would seem like something quite bullet-proof to me.


Are the nightkins the same as the deathclaws?

No, they're invisible super-mutants. A serious headache to kill.


I typically avoid melee, just because the loss of safety by being in such close contact outweighs the benefits.

This is generally a good idea, but not always so easy to do in practice.


Oh cool, so now we get actually -look- for mines like we're supposed to? <3

Well, more like stroll into a mine field and lose both your legs, then look for a way out of there without losing your torso.

Also, there's a gun I just found. It looks like a tommy gun, but manic laughter ensued when I realized it shoots frickin' lasers!

[-Batman-]

Finished the main story.
Two things bothered me.

1) New Vegas itself was pretty freaking small considering it's the main focus of the game. D.C. was much larger in comparison. I was expecting to see a big strip filled with Casino's, instead it was 3 Casino's and a slum. Big whoop.
2) Why were there only 3 Casino games? And for the biggest city in the Mojave it felt kind of dead. Not a single Poker Table to be found.

Also fun fact.
If you have 10 luck, you almost always win or break even in blackjack, you'll hardly ever lose.

And has anyone found the Legendary Deathclaw yet? Supposedly there is only one. It's much larger than other deathclaws, has 850 health, 10 perception (No sneak attacks for you), and does 250 damage +Knockback with each hit. I have suicidal tendencies and activley hunt Deathclaws whenever I can since I was murdered by one at level 10.
-Look through sniper scope on Varmint Rifle, See Deathclaw far away
-Too low level to deal with it, decide to back away before it see's me
-Turn to my right, there's a second Deathclaw...5 feet away from me
- "Clever girl"
- Dead character.

[Eris]

Finished the main story.
Two things bothered me.

1) New Vegas itself was pretty freaking small considering it's the main focus of the game. D.C. was much larger in comparison. I was expecting to see a big strip filled with Casino's, instead it was 3 Casino's and a slum. Big whoop.
2) Why were there only 3 Casino games? And for the biggest city in the Mojave it felt kind of dead. Not a single Poker Table to be found.


Well, New Vegas is a sort of rat-pack era Vegas, which was significantly smaller than the city is now. Beyond that, trying to populate a humongous city with interesting characters and plots is utterly doomed to fail (as Fallout 3 clearly demonstrated). Besides, this is very much in line with how older Fallout games were designed.


2) Why were there only 3 Casino games? And for the biggest city in the Mojave it felt kind of dead. Not a single Poker Table to be found.

Vegas is a tourist destination. A huge frickin' nuclear war reducing most of the country to a nuclear wasteland is the very epitome of bad for business.

[Inactive Account 0061]

I accidently Mr.House :>

But god, been playing 25 hours the last 1½ day. It's addicting.

[Eris]

I'll just leave this here


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N68S1rpEjo&feature=related

[Skylar1]

No, they're invisible super-mutants. A serious headache to kill.
Ninjas are always hard to kill


And has anyone found the Legendary Deathclaw yet?
"Legendary Deathclaw"? As if they weren't frighting enough.

Actually, funny story about deathclaws. You have to be careful of them when they're around and you decide to wander into an enclosed area.

In 3, I ran away from one into a vault, and didn't realize that the damn thing would -still- be outside the entrance when I was done exploring 2 hours later (and had already saved like.. a bunch of times).

the walls to the entrance made it so I couldn't just run around it, and I obviously was unable to fast travel.. I came very, very close to having to restart the entire game. @__@

luckily though, i managed to kill the thing..

[Hanamaru Kunikida]

I found out funny how they labeled it as "blind Deathclaw", yet it doesn't make it any better.

[Daken.]

I like the game so far, better than fallout 3 to me.
But is there anyway to change your characters appearance besides from the kings barber shop?

[Furore]

Pffft, I kill Deathclaws with Spiked Knuckles.



(And Stimpacks. Lots and lots of Stimpacks. Especially when several are trying to rape me at the one time.)

[Eris]

Deathclaws were much easier back when Fallout was turn-based. You could get like 6 sniper shots off at it before it even reached you (and the sniper-rifle was ridiculously OP).

[Hanamaru Kunikida]

God, I forgot how much I love pickpocketing xD.

[Inactive Account 0061]

Ok, so now I'm done with my first playthrough (30'ish hours) And I decided to take the Hoover Damn for myself... I think NCR (which I helped ALOT!) got butthurt :<... Also where do you guys find epic weps'n'armor :3?

[Aku no Hikari]

Thanks guys. I just bought this game and I CAN'T FRIGGIN' STOP PLAYING IT!! =D

Funfact: I encountered one of those giant scorpions Eris spoke of and I was level 2. I had a rifle, and I was at the top of a high place. I kept shooting and shooting and shooting it, and was moving around randomly and getting stuck at objects, and I was slowly chopping down its HP. But then it went round the mount, climbed from the other side and made it near the top. Luckily for me, it got stuck near me, where I kept shooting it at it until its HP was like 2. But then I accidentally moved and it un-stuck'd itself and killed me with two hits. X____X

And when I loaded the game, it was like 15 minutes ago. D=

MAN, I WAS ABOUT TO KILL THE GODDAMN SCORPION AT LEVEL 2!!! ;____;

[Skylar1]

updating stats:
Level 5 currently.


Strength 4
Perception 6
Endurance 5
Charisma 6
Intelligence 8
Agility 6
Luck 5

Skills:

Barter 25
Energy Weapons 27
Explosives 12
Guns 40
Lockpick 25
Medicine 30
Melee Weapons 10 (+)
Repair 28
Science 50
Sneak 32
Speech 27 (+)
Survival 22
Unarmed 10


Got the educated perk. And I'm planning on taking the NCR's side in the game.

Still just exploring atm.

[Eris]

Thanks guys. I just bought this game and I CAN'T FRIGGIN' STOP PLAYING IT!! =D

Funfact: I encountered one of those giant scorpions Eris spoke of and I was level 2. I had a rifle, and I was at the top of a high place. I kept shooting and shooting and shooting it, and was moving around randomly and getting stuck at objects, and I was slowly chopping down its HP. But then it went round the mount, climbed from the other side and made it near the top. Luckily for me, it got stuck near me, where I kept shooting it at it until its HP was like 2. But then I accidentally moved and it un-stuck'd itself and killed me with two hits. X____X

And when I loaded the game, it was like 15 minutes ago. D=

MAN, I WAS ABOUT TO KILL THE GODDAMN SCORPION AT LEVEL 2!!! ;____;

If it makes you feel better, I'm at level 19 and they still give me headache.

[Aku no Hikari]

If it makes you feel better, I'm at level 19 and they still give me headache.

Yeah, I mean... They're like crazy! I couldn't hit them with one single dynamite... (Though I fail @ throwing. o_0 I'm only good at aiming and shooting.)

Edit: Actually, I should have practiced throwing them before having to use them... :p Thought about everything in this game except this.

[Inactive Account 0061]

Well time for a character update (my 1st playthrough one) decided to reload just before last mission so I can fool around, explore and random questing :3



Level 23 - Very Good - Shepherd

SPECIAL

Str : 6
Per : 7+
End : 6
Cha :5
Int : 6
Agi : 6
Luk : 5

SKILLS

Barter : 45
Energy Weapons : 22
Explosives : 19+
Guns : 90
Lockpick : 92+
Medicine : 50
Melee Weapons : 20
Repair : 84
Science : 20
Sneak : 20
Speech : 100
Survival : 40
Unarmed : 17

PERKS

Animal Control
Bug Stomper
Center of Mass
Educated
Explorer
Lady Killer
Lead Belly
Life Giver
Light Step
Lord Death
Ranger Takedown
Rapid Reload
Scrounger
Strong Back
Tag!

REP

Boomers - Idolized
Brotherhood of Steel - Liked
Caesar's Legion - Vilified
Followers of the Apocalypse - Accepted
Freeside - Accepted
Goodsprings - Liked
Great Khans - Accepted
NCR - Liked
Novac - Idolized
Powder Gangers - Shunned
The Strip - Accepted

WEAPON OF USE

Gobi Campaign Scout Rifle

ARMOR OF USE

1st Recon Beret (Per +1, Crit. Chan +5)
Van Graff Combat Armor
Sunglasses

[Skylar1]

Yeah, I mean... They're like crazy! I couldn't hit them with one single dynamite... (Though I fail @ throwing. o_0 I'm only good at aiming and shooting.)

Edit: Actually, I should have practiced throwing them before having to use them... :p Thought about everything in this game except this.
lol, why don't you just use the VATS? Makes things a whole lot easier. xP

[Hanamaru Kunikida]

Lol at people who play Fallout as a FPS.

You're not going to go anywhere like that.

[Eris]

lol, why don't you just use the VATS? Makes things a whole lot easier. xP

VATS is useless against rad-scorpions. They have no vulnerable limbs.


Lol at people who play Fallout as a FPS.

You're not going to go anywhere like that.

Works pretty well in New Vegas, now that you have proper iron sights (unlike Fallout 3, where manually aiming was utterly impossible). With very fast moving opponents, VATS is useful, but it works pretty well without as well. Given you have the skill, that is, as it affects your aiming in "FPS" mode as well.


Well time for a character update (my 1st playthrough one) decided to reload just before last mission so I can fool around, explore and random questing :3

Why would you do that? You'll ruin the replay value!

[Inactive Account 0061]

Well Eris, I'd mostly fool around places I've already been, just until I ding 30. Complete some side quests I got. Maybe get banned from the casinos (havn't gambled yet and got about 60k caps atm. Srsly what do I need so many for =/ )

[Eris]

You're looting too much if you have that much money.

[Inactive Account 0061]

You're looting too much if you have that much money.

Can't help but looting everything I see :3

[Skylar1]

Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places, but it seems like so far all the caves and stuff don't really seem all that... explorable. @__@

[Eris]

Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places, but it seems like so far all the caves and stuff don't really seem all that... explorable. @__@

Yeah. This isn't Fallout 3. Running off and exploring like you did in Fallout 3 is generally punished with a swift and brutal deathclaw-related death. As New Vegas is more story-driven* than Fallout 3, it's better to find quests that send you into dungeons than merely exploring at random.

You can't swing a dead redscorpion without hitting a quest giver in Fallout: New Vegas so it's hardly a problem. Most, if not all dungeons seem to have one or more quests related to them.

[Skylar1]

Yeah. This isn't Fallout 3. Running off and exploring like you did in Fallout 3 is generally punished with a swift and brutal deathclaw-related death. It's better to find quests that send you into dungeons than merely exploring at random, and you can't swing a dead redscorpion without hitting a quest giver in Fallout: New Vegas. Most, if not all dungeons have one or more quests related to them.
bah. Exploring was the best part though

It seems like everywhere I go here is either: impassable mountains, or a pack of deathclaws, supermutants, and giant radscorpians. x___x

which, I'm not saying is all bad. I know that it helps improve the progression dynamic, but still..

[Eris]

bah. Exploring was the best part though

It seems like everywhere I go here is either: impassable mountains, or a pack of deathclaws, supermutants, and giant radscorpians. x___x

which, I'm not saying is all bad. I know that it helps improve the progression dynamic, but still..

You really want to save the exploration for later in the game (or explore near the route the game sends you). Once you hit Freeside and Vegas is when the game starts to open up in terms of freedom of movement. But it's always somewhat risky.

[Inactive Account 0061]

Still havn't met even one Deathclaw :< Also I'm running around in the NCR Ranger outfit and helmet <3 (the one on the cover of the game) I be stylin'

[Eris]

A good way to get your self shot at by people who don't like the NCR.

[Hanamaru Kunikida]

If you see Da Police, warn a brother!!

Oh and I think this would be an appropriate thread:
http://www.vg247.com/2010/10/28/boom-zenimax-buys-tango-and-shinji-mikami/
___

Right now, I am doing a bunch of mods for the PC version. =]

[Skylar1]

A good way to get your self shot at by people who don't like the NCR.
That's why I always dress in the srs business attire.

doesn't do much in the way of battle, but sure does look snazzy and professional.

[Inactive Account 0061]

Wow, caravan is incredibly easy once you understand the rules =/

[Furore]

Yeah, the AI seems to merely want to complete three bids or constantly outbid you (at least for me), and that makes it fail everytime.
I did find that it's damn fun in real life if you teach the rules to your buddies.

I'm currently on my second playthrough and my first only had me encounter three bugs and a freeze every 5-10 hours.

My first ending..
had me decide that Yes Man is a total champ (and quite good at tossing things off somewhere high).

[Hanamaru Kunikida]

Gah, I need to still finish it for the Xbox, being Evel this time.

I was a goodie goodie in the PC version, finished the game.

Oh, just in case anyone asks...Xbox is at home, and a we(roomie and me) have PC is at dorm room, so I played it there.

[Inactive Account 0061]

Yeah, the AI seems to merely want to complete three bids or constantly outbid you (at least for me), and that makes it fail everytime.
I did find that it's damn fun in real life if you teach the rules to your buddies.

I'm currently on my second playthrough and my first only had me encounter three bugs and a freeze every 5-10 hours. My first ending..

had me decide that Yes Man is a total champ (and quite good at tossing things off somewhere high).

Got the same ending, wannabe Sparta :D

[Eris]

Spoiler ending-specific details, plx.

[Inactive Account 0061]

http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/2843/nvc1.jpg
Aaw aren't I cute?

[Eris]

What armor are you wearing?

[Inactive Account 0061]

Gunrunner armor :3

[GameGeeks]

Curious, how negligible is lucks effect on things outside of crit? I don't tend to rely on crit in games outside of D&D. Was wondering if I could just safely steal points from luck.

[Eris]

Curious, how negligible is lucks effect on things outside of crit? I don't tend to rely on crit in games outside of D&D. Was wondering if I could just safely steal points from luck.

It affects gambling, and affects all skills (if you have 4 luck, you lose 1 point in all of your skills). So probably not worth it.

[GameGeeks]

Thanks, and I'm assuming the training perk is the only way to increase stats?

[Eris]

You can increase them with implants as well. But your endurance limits your total number of implants.

[Skylar1]

You can increase them with implants as well. But your endurance limits your total number of implants.
oh snap. Good bit of info there.

I think I may have made my strength too low [4] as well now that I think about it. x___x

[Eris]

Many weapons have minimum strength requirements, so that's not a good idea. Really, you don't want to min-max in New Vegas. Dumping any stat below 5 will come back and bite you one way or another. It should also be noted that while it was worthwhile to max intelligence in Fallout 3, that in New Vegas, you only gain half the skill points per intelligence point, making it a much worse deal.

[Skylar1]

bah. For some reason I can't seem to get my ED-E eyebot to "follow" me. Am I imputing the wrong command setting or something? =[

[GameGeeks]

Many weapons have minimum strength requirements, so that's not a good idea. Really, you don't want to min-max in New Vegas. Dumping any stat below 5 will come back and bite you one way or another. It should also be noted that while it was worthwhile to max intelligence in Fallout 3, that in New Vegas, you only gain half the skill points per intelligence point, making it a much worse deal.
Thanks suggested str for laser weapons?

[-Batman-]

I finally found my prey, hidden away in a cave filled to the teeth with Deathclaws.

But alas.
The hunter has nothing left to hunt.
Nothing of note anyway. Took down every color of the Deathclaw rainbow.
Everything else is smalltime.
I want to say I saw someone on /v/ mention something about a radscorpion queen...Maybe I'll look into that.

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/138/legendaryu.th.jpg (http://img835.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legendaryu.jpg)

[Eris]

Thanks suggested str for laser weapons?

You can get away with 5 str and use most energy weapons except heavy duty stuff like gatling lasers, plasma casters and tesla cannons. They require 8 str. Though there's a perk that lowers strength requirement by 2 available at level 16 called Weapon Handling.

If you start with 5 str, and then get a strength implant, and pick weapon handling, you can use all weapons in the game, except miniguns which require 10 str.

You can still use the guns without meeting the strength requirement, but you're gonna be less efficient with them.

[GameGeeks]

Thanks, I'll have to use a training perk and bring str back to five. I'll have to remember to take the perk at 16.

[Inactive Account 0061]

http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/images/35570-1-1288599250.jpg

:3

[Eris]

Just chillin'?

Also, have you modded your HUD? It looks slightly different.

[Inactive Account 0061]

Indeed I have Eris :> And were just chillin' around yup.

[GameGeeks]

I'm curious, I'm going the yes-man route and I did the brotherhood quest, yet.. I can't seem to get them to join me. Is it because I put Hardin in charge? If so, then I may just have to blow the bunker up. Did too much since then.

[Inactive Account 0061]

The last thing you never see :>
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6168/nvc3.jpg

[GameGeeks]

Third pick kinda looks like it has a boom mic.

[Hanamaru Kunikida]

Dryaxx, you're such a thug.

[Inactive Account 0061]

Dryaxx, you're such a thug.

I'm stylin' on you!

[Skylar1]

level 10 now, and I'm almost into new vegas. didn't realize it would have taken this long. lol

Need to find a passport, since I don't have enough caps to meet the balance requirement though.

[Hanamaru Kunikida]

You got to ask The King, you got to do mussions for him and in the end, he will grant you one favor...1000 caps, be part of their crew or the passport.

[Inactive Account 0061]

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter...

[Daken.]

level 10 now, and I'm almost into new vegas. didn't realize it would have taken this long. lol

Need to find a passport, since I don't have enough caps to meet the balance requirement though.

You can get one by purchasing it from Mick and Ralphs in Freeside for like 500 caps.

[GameGeeks]

Lol, I kinda butchered my first play through, ended at level 14. Trying again. Though I have to say, I think Yes-Man will be my favorite char in the game.

[Skylar1]

trying to find a quick way to get a lot of caps now since my speech skill was ever so slightly off of being able to persuade the guard from letting me see the King. /raeg

[Inactive Account 0061]

trying to find a quick way to get a lot of caps now since my speech skill was ever so slightly off of being able to persuade the guard from letting me see the King. /raeg



Get to the Armory in Vault 34 dude... Guns, guns everywhere.. You can earn a load by selling them :D

............................

Either that or Caravan (easiest cardgame, EVAH)

[Chewbaka]

Archimedes II

'Nuff said.


Seriously though, I got this game on day one, and I can't stop playing it.

My current character is basically a gunner who can use any and all Guns. I have Euclids C-Finder, which my copy/PS3/tech allows use once every few days, or whenever (it's glitching, only fires every once in a while, but it does it to great effect.)

I have high numbers in everything but Charisma, which is 1. I'm level 21 right now, and I have pretty much killed most enemies.

Most of them. I know I killed a ton of named enemies, like Alpha Deathclaw (with All-American after a Archimedes II drop on it (twice)). I have found all the good uniques, to my character archtype at least. All-American was hard because of the radiation and ghouls, the others were less than hard, but still challenging.

This game is great, but there are problems. I do experience moments of invisible walls when there shouldn't be any. I get lag, and have died from it. Reloads didn't allow me to fire until a few seconds after the animation was done. There are visual glitches that make it impossible to see things from certain angles.

There are others, but I can't remember them. I do like the story-line quests for each faction, with the quests themselves being quality over quantity. Side quests make it quality and quantity. The dialogue and humor are excellent, and the fact that murder with new weapons is even more exciting than before means I'll continue to waste my time with this game.

Seriously, go find the C-Finder. You know, the one that the boy that's chasing the girl has. It doesn't work immediately, cause there is of course a quest to it, but it's well worth it.

[GameGeeks]

Here's an interesting glitch. At the Vikki and Vance casino they don't remove the chips when you turn them in. You can just keep on cashing in.

[Skylar1]

Ah, the ever wonderful glitches.

Gotta love getting stuck in those invisible walls and end up having to load from the last save. >=[

[GameGeeks]

Or meeting two immortal deathclaws. Seriously, I loaded clip after clip into them and they took no damage. Yes, I was hitting them especially since I tried melee. As for the invisible walls, let me climb a mountain dammit. Really, seems they put them there just to annoy you and make you take the long way. Oh, anyone know a decent way to make money for implants outside of the glitch I just found? I can afford one but I'd like a bit of a cushion for ammo and what not. And not the casino since the max bet is 200 no matter what one I go to.

[Eris]

let me climb a mountain dammit.

You need mountaineering equipment to climb mountain faces like that in reality. Doesn't make sense to be able to do that in game, especially with 200 lbs of equipment on your back.

[GameGeeks]

Yes, and no. There have been people who've climbed mountains without such equipment.

[Eris]

And they did this after being shot in the head and walking in the desert for days? Maybe if you have like 10 END and 100 survival skill, but anything less. Just no.

[GameGeeks]

True, but some of them aren't even that high and there was one that even had a path halfway up. Not to mention places outside of mountains like hopping over those road boundaries.

[Inactive Account 0061]

Lolis with guns :3

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/317/nvcc1.jpg

All way to the right you can compare the height :3

[Eris]

lol(i)wut?

[Inactive Account 0061]

lol(i)wut?

Mods, mods everywhere!

[GameGeeks]

You're using that Sojo race aren't you? And in the second pic your right hand looks swollen.

[Skylar1]

Finally got into new vegas. bleh, this place is boring. :3

Imma go do what I enjoy best now- 'sploring.

[GameGeeks]

Yeah, I've been doing that for what seems forever and I still don't have all the markers. Not sure if I even have half of them. And the Deathclaw mission is a royal pain in the arse.

[Inactive Account 0061]

Yeah, I've been doing that for what seems forever and I still don't have all the markers. Not sure if I even have half of them. And the Deathclaw mission is a royal pain in the arse.



Been playing NV for a total of like 110 hours.. Still havn't encountered a single deathclaw :'I

I think they aviod me :<

[Hanamaru Kunikida]

http://kotaku.com/5692221/fallout-new-vegas-first-add+on-pack-is-an-xbox-360-exclusive

So the first DLC has been confirmed and it's an Xbox 360 only DLC. But it's obviously going to be timed, just like everything else, lol.

Can't wait.

EDIT: Apparently it might be permanent exclusive, lol.

[GameGeeks]

That's ok, PC has modding. In a years time there will be some starling content created by the community.

[Skylar1]

I'm currently in Vault 34 trying to do the Radiation mission.

Wish I could figure out where the key is so I don't die of radiation down here. D:

[GameGeeks]

I have to redo that mission. It's a pain in the ares to say the least. I kept going in circles. Though I'd do the ghoul space mission first since near the end you can find a space suit that give decent protection to radiation.

[Inactive Account 0061]

I'm currently in Vault 34 trying to do the Radiation mission.

Wish I could figure out where the key is so I don't die of radiation down here. D:

God, I remember being there in lvl 12 on my melee character. I finally got to the armory and completed the quests there, and then I rushed out (had a rad-poison on 983).. Felt good man :>

[Eris]

Did you use the advanced rad-suit or space suit?

But yeah, that place is a damn maze, and the rad ticker keeps increasing.

[GameGeeks]

I didn't know there was and advance version of the rad suit. I haven't found one yet.

[Daenerys]

I've had this game since it came out, and I'm only level 4/5. Every time I go to play it I just get really bored. It didn't suck me in as much as Fallout 3 did. I don't know if it's just got a slow beginning or I just liked the feel of the other game more. Is there anything fun or amusing to do while I try to do the storyline missions? I just got to Primm.

[Skylar1]

I've had this game since it came out, and I'm only level 4/5. Every time I go to play it I just get really bored. It didn't suck me in as much as Fallout 3 did. I don't know if it's just got a slow beginning or I just liked the feel of the other game more. Is there anything fun or amusing to do while I try to do the storyline missions? I just got to Primm.
Yeah, I got the same impression.

I guess it's just because fallout 3 was far less restrictive in terms of where you could travel somewhere and when, whereas New Vegas is very linear as to where you can progress until about half way though. Plus, the mountains make in incredibly frustrating that way because you -think- your going somewhere when, boom, impassable mountain.

Plus, I enjoyed having the ability to talk to most every common folk that passed by, (even if it wasn't anything particularly interesting); still a lot better than the one-line regurgitated dialogue they give you. :\

[Daenerys]

I haven't found impassible mountains yet, but I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who thinks this. Maybe it's just me, but I also liked the green overlay in Fallout 3 better than the orange. It just seemed more post-apocalyptic than the orange. It just had a darker more sinister feel to me, I think.

[Hanamaru Kunikida]

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/Fallout-New-Vegas/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802425307e0

All Xbox users of the game.....Get it now, and guess what? FOR FREE.

Go get it before they fix it!

[Inactive Account 0061]

''Dead Money is recommended for experienced Couriers (Level 20+). If up to the challenge, continue on. The Sierra Madre Grand Opening awaits... and has been for 200 years''



Free DLC, feels good man :>

[Ghost]

This Game is very cool a has great animation and cool characters

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This Game is very cool has great animation and cool characters

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Great game dude

[Chewbaka]

Bump.

Still playing this thing into the new year. Have a 21 Courier with NCR Ranger Combat Armor, and most of the uniques (I <3 Lucky/All-American/Dinner Bell). Btw, this invisi-walls are apparently there for a reason. e.e
Still pretty good. Kinda wish the game didn't freeze too much. Especially when I'm trying to take down the Legendary Deathclaw. I want Mercy and I want it now.

Why does it seem that most cross-platform games that get DLC hit the Xbox first? Why can't it be the PS3, so that I don't feel like crap?

[Cloud.]

I almost played this as much as Fallout 3. Almost.

I prefer 3's atmosphere to NV. I'll take gray and rubble over blue skies and sand any day.

[Chewbaka]

I want rain to be introduced...or other weather in general. It's dull just to see the sun or the moon.

[Skylar1]

I want rain to be introduced...or other weather in general. It's dull just to see the sun or the moon.
yeah.. weather does add quite a bit of a neat effect that you can't really get any other way.

Shame it wasn't there.

[Hanamaru Kunikida]

So I played the free DLC I mentioned a few weeks back...

Yeah, Free DLC FTW! Nice expansion of the game.

[Chewbaka]

e.e You kids and your free DLC.

Btb, I just glitched the game to never ever give me any more solar strikes during that playthrough. Ever. I disapprove of this severely, because I now have no laughter in this game when it comes to destroying the faces off of people.

Someone come fix my game.

[Skylar1]

I found a mega glitch up in the town where the supermutants live (not sure if it was the game it's self, or my xbox getting ready to rest in peace), but it started giving everything this green tint. Which was pretty cool at first because it looked like fallout 3, HAHA, but it wasn't right, and I couldn't fix it D:

[Chewbaka]

I found a mega glitch up in the town where the supermutants live (not sure if it was the game it's self, or my xbox getting ready to rest in peace), but it started giving everything this green tint. Which was pretty cool at first because it looked like fallout 3, HAHA, but it wasn't right, and I couldn't fix it D:

That's awesomewrong. I think my favorite glitch is the "you can't see anything because the game wants to spaz out with it's texture/mesh/image load". It happens often, but you can only see it at certain camera angles. Another favorite glitch is the Miguel's Pawn Shop door glitch.

I <3 problems.

[Eris]

Some locations are tinted though.

Horribly-irradiated-ville is shrouded in a green mist.
The-area-with-a-minefield-between-a-caesar's-and-a-NCR-base is brown and almost monochrome, like an old photo.

[Skylar1]

Some locations are tinted though.

Horribly-irradiated-ville is shrouded in a green mist.
The-area-with-a-minefield-between-a-caesar's-and-a-NCR-base is brown and almost monochrome, like an old photo.
yeah, but this was something that followed you where ever you went. x_x

[Hanamaru Kunikida]

Kinda old news, but the new DLC is almost going to release...hopefully I can get that one for free as well. xD
http://kotaku.com/5800756/fallout-new-vegas-honest-hearts-laid-bare-in-new-trailer-and-screenss/gallery/1

[Chewbaka]

Honest Hearts adds the weather that I've always wanted, and a bunch of guns and perks that make me cry. Too bad I'm poor right now. ;_;

Rain <3

[Hanamaru Kunikida]

And it got pushed back due to PSN Store being down, even though PSN will be up.

Xbox LIVE and PC/Steam Users can still get it on time. =3

[Chewbaka]

And it got pushed back due to PSN Store being down, even though PSN will be up.

Xbox LIVE and PC/Steam Users can still get it on time. =3

Which sucks, but it leaves me with wiggle room for monies.

Been looking at all the stuff it adds, and I laughed when I saw the .45 weapons. WWII ftw. I wonder what other WWII weapons they'll add.

[-GAZKUL-]

Just upgraded to a 360 and have got Fallout 3 which is amazing!!!!! dous New Vegas compare?

[narunaru]

Just upgraded to a 360 and have got Fallout 3 which is amazing!!!!! dous New Vegas compare?

New Vegas is basically more Fallout 3 with some guns added, some taken away, and a more Western flavor of post-Apocalyptica.

[Chewbaka]

The one thing that ruined this game for me for beginning stuff is the New Vegas Clinic Run. I. Hate. It. Yet I can't stop, cause I need me some powerful stuff that I should get later.

The new patch makes NCR actually better, and it makes certain guns actually viable for use. It's awesome. I kinda wish though that they would have changed Mercy so it would use 25mm, not 40mm. Thump-Thump becomes useless once I get it. v.v;

[Eris]

New Vegas is basically more Fallout 3 with some guns added, some taken away, and a more Western flavor of post-Apocalyptica.

And a vastly better story, NPCs that have personality rather than being mindless vending machines for fetch quests, a less procedurally generated feel, and in general being better in most ways conceivable.

Graphics and interface are the same, but that's about all that is.

[GameGeeks]

Yeah, but it still falls flat in the area I pick these kinds of games up for which is exploration. There's really no reason to explore in Vegas outside of seeing the views.

[Chewbaka]

Bumpeth.

Post builds so I can laugh at them, then cry at how much I'd like to use them. Seriously, I'm making builds revolving around the Assassin Suit, 1st Recon Beret and Automatic Rifle (Holorifle if I use Energy Weapons, Bear Death/ Knife Spear for up close.) It's sickening how quick I want to get those weapons. So much so that I just start that DLC at around 16 or so.

I am serious about posting builds. I'd like to play something else other that the few I take from the guide, or the two I make up. Also the names. Stuck in a rut, and I can't get out. =(

[Eris]

I've been casually playing this again. I'm level 7 now. Playing on hard, hardcore. Man this game is unforgiving. Stray into the wrong area and it's game over. Like instantly. 30 nightstalkers spray out of a cave and chew on your face. Or a giant radscorpion zooms at you at mach 4. If you're lucky, you can throw down 5 land mines and make it mad (and maybe even cripple one of it's legs), so that you can try to backpedal while emptying every single gun you own at it, hoping that you get a lot of critical hits and kill it.


Yeah, but it still falls flat in the area I pick these kinds of games up for which is exploration. There's really no reason to explore in Vegas outside of seeing the views.

So in other words, you picked the game up expecting a Bethesda game (procedurally generated doodad collection game), but got a Fallout game (RPG instructing you to solve a fairly vague problem* in a large game world driven by faction diplomacy).

* The main quest in Fallout 1 as well as 2 boil down to pretty much a fetch quest, where the only help you're given is a gun/spear and the directions for the nearest town.

[Hanamaru Kunikida]

So there's a DLC coming out on June and then July.

And as for Honest Hearts. I like it but for me it felt really short and Zion is really empty, like there isn't a lot going on.

All in all, I like it better than Dead Money, and Dryaxx(thanks to me) and I got it for free thanks to an Xbox Live glitch. But I think they should release a GOTY version like Fallout 3 with all the DLCs.

[GameGeeks]

I've been casually playing this again. I'm level 7 now. Playing on hard, hardcore. Man this game is unforgiving. Stray into the wrong area and it's game over. Like instantly. 30 nightstalkers spray out of a cave and chew on your face. Or a giant radscorpion zooms at you at mach 4. If you're lucky, you can throw down 5 land mines and make it mad (and maybe even cripple one of it's legs), so that you can try to backpedal while emptying every single gun you own at it, hoping that you get a lot of critical hits and kill it.



So in other words, you picked the game up expecting a Bethesda game (procedurally generated doodad collection game), but got a Fallout game (RPG revolving largely around faction diplomacy).Well kinda after playing Fallout 3. Don't get me wrong, I still like Vegas, and am currently playing it. I just like exploring as well and seeing what I can find. That said, outside of that one aspect NV is superior. Which is probably gonna keep me playing this instead.

[Eris]

That's why I generally write "Fallout" 3. I get the impression that they based that game off nothing more than the first half of the intro video to Fallout 1, and that nobody actually bothered to play the game.

You know, this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkBNKa2KXZE

[GameGeeks]

That's why I generally write "Fallout" 3. I get the impression that they based that game off nothing more than the first half of the intro video to Fallout 1, and that nobody actually bothered to play the game.

You know, this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkBNKa2KXZE
Probably gonna get ripped apart but...I never played a Fallout game prior to 3.

[Hanamaru Kunikida]

I started to get into Fallout ever since the second one, I never really played the first one completely.

[Eris]

You're missing out. Together with Baldur's Gate 2 it's one of the crown jewels of PC RPGs. Of course it requires a level of patience and focus I don't expect people have anymore.

[GameGeeks]

You're missing out. Together with Baldur's Gate 2 it's one of the crown jewels of PC RPGs. Of course it requires a level of patience and focus I don't expect people have anymore.
Now there's a game I did play. Wish more games where like that today.

[Hanamaru Kunikida]

I know....Bioware at it's best, before it got acquired by EA and went straight downhill (Dragon Age II).

[jimmyzen]

I'm still undecided about the ending. I definitely don't like the Legion. I'm leaning toward the NCR but I always have doubts because in places people don't talk very kindly about them. Mr House seems way too bi-polar- he's either a control freak who treats my character like a Boy Friday with all his crappy little missions/errands. But then he goes psycho when he doesn't get his way. I never trust people even in real life who are as agreeable as Yes Man so I don't fully trust him in the game either. I think I'm just going to have to choose one way and follow it through to the end and save that and do the same thing with each possible path. That's one of the good things about playing on a PC is being able to cut/paste the saved game files out of the game folder to somewhere else so I can restart from any point.

I finished Dead Money and am double checking all over for any side missions I may have missed. I have Honest Hearts but have read it has bugs so I may hold off before I play it and finish just before I finish the main game.

I just got all the addons to Fallout 3, Broken Steel, Point Lookout, The Pitt, and Operation Anchorage which I'm also in the process of replaying.

[Eris]

Now there's a game I did play. Wish more games where like that today.

Play more games like that from yesteryear. I hear Fallout 1 is good. You can get it at gog for cheaps. They also have Arcanum, Planescape, and other awesomeness.

[jimmyzen]

Play more games like that from yesteryear. I hear Fallout 1 is good. You can get it at gog for cheaps. They also have Arcanum, Planescape, and other awesomeness.

I mentioned GOG in another thread about old video games. They sure have quite a selection and I bought like 5 my first visit.

I also read Fallout 1 was good but I think I read it has graphics sorta like the first GTA- not very detailed and everything is small. I read that some time ago in a gamer mag when Fallout 3 was first reported to be in development. having slept since then i can't vouch 100% for the accuracy of my brain....

[GameGeeks]

Play more games like that from yesteryear. I hear Fallout 1 is good. You can get it at gog for cheaps. They also have Arcanum, Planescape, and other awesomeness.
First, har, second, own Arcanum. I'll probably get Fallout 1 and 2 in the future.

[Eris]

I mentioned GOG in another thread about old video games. They sure have quite a selection and I bought like 5 my first visit.

I also read Fallout 1 was good but I think I read it has graphics sorta like the first GTA- not very detailed and everything is small. I read that some time ago in a gamer mag when Fallout 3 was first reported to be in development. having slept since then i can't vouch 100% for the accuracy of my brain....

GOG is awesome.

The graphics in the original fallout are dated, but it's okay. It leaves much more to the imagination, which is something that generally is positive for RPGs.

[Chewbaka]

Ugh, the new patch is like a sexy woman with a deformed leg. It's fantastic, but that leg is just...ugh. My framerate drops in every area on The Strip, fast travel freezes me at a few spots and just blocks it, and a few other problems. I do like the weapon changes though. I use shotguns more due to the extra 20% damage, the 12.7mm Sub is fantastic, All-American is freaking awesome in V.A.T.S., among other weapons being used more. I'unno, it's a mixed feeling. Any opinions on this?

Also, screw the other DLC's, I want Lonesome Road. I want to know: Why Ulysses is such a jackwagon, and what's our personal history. A theory is that we were in a gang, and something we did left us running with him essentially "holding the bag". Just a theory though.

Again, just a theory. I'm interested in other theories though.

OH, Dead Money sucks with it's invisible cards in some locations and the extra skill books making me work my game around them. It was bad enough for me to figure out how to bump my stats to fit certain things, only to find out that I made a mistake. e.e;

[jimmyzen]

Ugh, the new patch is like a sexy woman with a deformed leg. It's fantastic, but that leg is just...ugh. My framerate drops in every area on The Strip, fast travel freezes me at a few spots and just blocks it, and a few other problems. I do like the weapon changes though. I use shotguns more due to the extra 20% damage, the 12.7mm Sub is fantastic, All-American is freaking awesome in V.A.T.S., among other weapons being used more. I'unno, it's a mixed feeling. Any opinions on this?

Also, screw the other DLC's, I want Lonesome Road. I want to know: Why Ulysses is such a jackwagon, and what's our personal history. A theory is that we were in a gang, and something we did left us running with him essentially "holding the bag". Just a theory though.

Again, just a theory. I'm interested in other theories though.

OH, Dead Money sucks with it's invisible cards in some locations and the extra skill books making me work my game around them. It was bad enough for me to figure out how to bump my stats to fit certain things, only to find out that I made a mistake. e.e;

I read on Steam that there were bugs galore with Honest Hearts although I didn't see anything saying it affected video performance. A patch is forthcoming (isn't it always?). I didn't have any of the other problems you mentioned but I did see them among those others had. What brand is your video card? Sometimes ATI based stuff has problems and nVIDIA is OK and vise-versa.

I started HH just to get a look-see of the area but need to tie up loose ends in the main game a bit more. I tried a half dozen times to alter the beginning but apparently it's meant to be that way. I'm ducking dropping a spoiler here.

As for Dead Money- it was OK but the lack of resources make it unnecessarily hard at times. The incessant beep-beep-beep of the collar got tiresome. They took that a little too far. After I finished it I re-explored the entire area and there was a lot I found that would have been useful in the game had I been able to get in the area. I thought the ending was good story-wise but it was way harder getting past the holographic guards than it was to deal with Elijah. I never did get the deal with changing the holo-guys behavior at the various terminals. It didn't look like they did anything different after selecting that command. Since most of the terminals that did that required a hack it would have seemed that the devs would have thrown players a bone and maybe rendered them inactive for a short time or shut a few down where there were hordes of them. Since they were indestructible they had a lot going for them anyway. Better yet, Stealthboys! Maybe toss a few around at the beginning and drop a few clues that you shouldn't use them until it really called for it. I didn't think the combat between the character and the Ghost Thingies was quite right either. When you stand right in front of them and stab or throw a spear at them and it totally misses, well at that range there's no way! BTW: Elijah looked like the main guy from the Brotherhood of Steel in FO3.

I'm with you waiting for Lonesome Road. For some reason the title makes me think it should have a Neil Young/Crazy Horse distorted, feedback drenched, guitar frenzy theme song in it. Better yet, in-game music by Electric Neil like he did in the movie My Name is Nobody (starring Johnny Depp) which is one of my favorite odd films and a Must See for the warped of humor and for those who like dark things with a twist.

Great analogy with the leg thing, too! ;-)

[GameGeeks]

Ugh, the new patch is like a sexy woman with a deformed leg. It's fantastic, but that leg is just...ugh. My framerate drops in every area on The Strip, fast travel freezes me at a few spots and just blocks it, and a few other problems. I do like the weapon changes though. I use shotguns more due to the extra 20% damage, the 12.7mm Sub is fantastic, All-American is freaking awesome in V.A.T.S., among other weapons being used more. I'unno, it's a mixed feeling. Any opinions on this?

Also, screw the other DLC's, I want Lonesome Road. I want to know: Why Ulysses is such a jackwagon, and what's our personal history. A theory is that we were in a gang, and something we did left us running with him essentially "holding the bag". Just a theory though.

Again, just a theory. I'm interested in other theories though.

OH, Dead Money sucks with it's invisible cards in some locations and the extra skill books making me work my game around them. It was bad enough for me to figure out how to bump my stats to fit certain things, only to find out that I made a mistake. e.e;Yeah, I noticed that too. It's quite annoying knowing I can run the game at full settings and still have lag. And the freeze in starting to piss me off. There have been times where it refused to correct itself and force a termination making me re do a large chunk of what I just did. Such as clearing an entire cave or building. And as for the history, I think it's left blank intentionally by the developers so I doubt there would be a DLC for it. Though there are a few minor choices you can make about it throughout the game.

jimmyzen Haven't played Dead Money yet but short of them stripping your gear you just need to be prepared. I don't think it'd be an issue considering on this char (preparing for a full on survival hardcore play through, i.e. no merchants) I have hand loader, scavenger and jury-rigging. Haven't tried Junk Rounds yet but chances are I'll test it out since I still have ten perks to pick left.

[Chewbaka]

I just want to point out that you can start Dead Money at any point you want, but being level 20+ is recommended for the skill challenges, perks and weapon skill. Also, the Automatic Rifle is downright sexy. Wish that they added a different weapon mod other than that 10% ROF bump, but it equates to 50 DPS extra, so I'unno.

I finally quit playing this game for a while. Since Day 1 it's been in my PS3, and now I'm doing something else. Feels real good not having to put skill points into anything, but I'll be sucked into it soon enough.

[jimmyzen]

Yeah, I noticed that too. It's quite annoying knowing I can run the game at full settings and still have lag. And the freeze in starting to piss me off. There have been times where it refused to correct itself and force a termination making me re do a large chunk of what I just did. Such as clearing an entire cave or building. And as for the history, I think it's left blank intentionally by the developers so I doubt there would be a DLC for it. Though there are a few minor choices you can make about it throughout the game.

jimmyzen Haven't played Dead Money yet but short of them stripping your gear you just need to be prepared. I don't think it'd be an issue considering on this char (preparing for a full on survival hardcore play through, i.e. no merchants) I have hand loader, scavenger and jury-rigging. Haven't tried Junk Rounds yet but chances are I'll test it out since I still have ten perks to pick left.

Hey! No, losing my gear wasn't an issue and I was already a level 30 when I went in. My playing style for any game seems different from the way many people play. I will stay in an area and fight every opponent, explore every inch, and take everything I can. According to my Steam page for New Vegas - I just checked- 323 hours(!) so you know I am definitely not a run and gunner! I've never been one who tries to beat a game as quickly as possible. I paid for it so I will get everything out of it I can. Off topic a bit, but I did get stuck in Dead Money so I watched a video on YouTube of a guy playing through it. I figured out what I needed to do well before I saw him do it, but his play style was such a train wreck to me I had to watch for awhile. He went in a level 20 and I noticed on his Pip-Boy map and how sparse it was that he hadn't even been to half the areas in the Waste Land but he said he'd completed the game before starting Dead Money. In dead Money, he jumped through every intro and dialog cut scene where things were explained and information was given only to be baffled later by the same things he'd skipped. He sped through conversations with characters without reading anything and then couldn't figure out what to do with them later. When anybody in the game spoke he was like a sports commentator and felt it necessary to run his own dialog on top of them commenting and never heard a word that was said. Had he shut up for even half the time he was babbling he wouldn't have have had trouble in spots because he would have known what was going on. He didn't care a whit about the story, all he wanted to do was "win" and get it over with. He bought the game so he can play however he wants to, but I don't get spending that kind of money and then ducking out on 3/4 of the experience of playing it. I had to stop watching his videos after a few because it was too frustrating and I was tired of telling the screen "If you'd shut up for 10 minutes you'd know"

What I was referring to in my original comment was that to survive there was tedious. It was possible, but time consuming. Exploring was a risk because you couldn't let your health get too low, but you also needed supplies so you had to explore. There were a few beds that could be slept in but you had to hunt for them. There were holo-vendors you could get things from both to use and to feed the vending machines. The trick there was you had to trade stuff because they didn't have any chips to buy things with and you couldn't spend them. You had to trade items of enough value with them for what you wanted. That meant scrounging cans, ashtrays, cups, bottles, clothes, plungers- anything of any value. At times I left everything I was carrying there in their shops just to go on scavenging hunts.

The vending machines would buy back stuff and there are codes or whatever they were you could find that let the vending machines you use make items or enhanced items they otherwise wouldn't. They will also buy back items for casino chips. I had stash spots I would keep stuff in so when the guns, etc. wore out I had more stashed.

As you adapt to the hazards of the place, traps, poison gas clouds, the radios and speakers that trip your collar, the enemies, it is a learning curve. I guess one way to do it is save, learn your away around and what to watch for, then restart from the save and play for real. Again, it's just me, but I get tired of repeating sections and levels (my reason for detesting checkpoint save games) in most cases. I'd rather patch myself up and continue on. Of course, the random crashes to desktop of FO 3 and NV taught me to SESO!! (Save early, Save often) A little more help with a few more stims thrown around would have been nice.

The ghoul character you are teamed with has stashes all over marked by a glowing hand print. These contain weapons, food, ammo, some meds, etc. There were also items inside apartments in dressers and cabinets, on the floor, on shelves and tables. There sre things of value strewn among the drbris outside, too.

What did become "Oh no! Not again!" tedious was the beeping that warned of the collars getting ready to blow. It was challenging rushing an area and looking for the source of what was setting the collar off and running back out before it blew. There were graffitti clues of many ot the speaker locations painted and scrawled on walls. There were places where the only option was to run past them because they were the red glowing indestructible ones. That's all well and fine, but there were a few spots where it was a timing thing that took practice to get right. In one spot you have to pick a lock while you're beeping. That required replays because you couldn't mess arounf for even a fraction of a secon in getting to it. That gets a bit repetitive. At least fo me it did.

Then there there are the holo-guards. They are indestructible which gives them a huge leg up. There are security terminals around where they are posted. Some of them need to be hacked and all have a "modify behavior" command. Select it and it acts like it's running, but I didn't notice any change in behavior, be it going inactive or just moving to a different area to patrol. Most things in the FO series return some error message to let you know it isn't working.

There are places where you just have to charge through these guard, especially toward the end. I don't want to spoil it so i will be vague. Here's an analogy- If you ever played Half Life 2 you will remember the ant lions. When they were first introduced they were a challenge and you were happy when you were done dealing with them. Then in the Half Life Edisodes following Half Life 2 they went way over the top with them. It wasn't fun or a challenge, especially the parking garage, it was just stupid and frustrating and one of the few times I ever entered "God Mode" to get through a challenge in a game. I think it was just laziness on the part of the FONV developers at the entry to the valult level. Rather than make it more difficult to find or require specialized or hard to get items to complete the section, they just stick an army of indestructible enemies and make the player get to safety before he dies. No cover, no place to duck and decide what to do next: Run, Die, Repeat.

What would have been nice is if Stealth Boys would have been allowed and worked on those Holos. Even a special type available somewhere in the area left by the plotters who had planned the evil deed that was interupted years before. (I'm trying to avoid dropping a spoiler here) There could have been, say 3 of them so if you wasted them on less dangerous situations you would be SOL when you truly needed them.

The thing I always liked about F0 3 and FO NV was, besides being shooters, they also required some thinking and strategy. Choices were important. The more you invested in the game from following the story line, listening to the stories of the NPCs, taking missions, and exploring, the more the game gave back. It's a pretty good story which is fun to take part in. I don't much care for games like Painkiller where the point is just ever increasingly more difficult combat and the storyline is just a thin thread to explain the combat. (I think that kind of game is more suitable for the guy whose videos I watched) The last part of DM reminded me of that kind of brainless get away before you die thing. I guess I just wanted a more "heady" set of tasks to the conclusion that required use of other resources besides luck and repeat until you get it right.

It would have also been nice to have found a courier's box with which to ship the loot out in. (Sigh!)

I found the segment's story ending rather anti-climactic although I'm sure my opinion is the exception rather than a rule. I don't think they did a good job tying up the loose ends and I really wish there could have been a better ending sequence with one of the three "team members" you were linked with. Two concluded and one was left hanging.

On a high note, after it was over, I did get to re-explore all the areas without the collar and clouds of poison gas afterwards. I dispatched the remaining Ghost guys, found the rest of the Ghoul's stashes and made some notes for next time. Once Dead Money is over and you return to the Waste Land you can't go back.

It was fun, places were very good, but overall, I think it was uneven.

[GameGeeks]

jimmyzen First, lol Write three sentences and get an essay in reply. Second, I can live with the collar. If anything it sounds entertaining. Like a more serious version of what the Brotherhood does if you don't bring along Veronica. So really looking forward to it. Though I think I'll wait till I max science which is about three levels from now since I just plopped a level and a half into survival for Entomology.

[jimmyzen]

jimmyzen First, lol Write three sentences and get an essay in reply. Second, I can live with the collar. If anything it sounds entertaining. Like a more serious version of what the Brotherhood does if you don't bring along Veronica. So really looking forward to it. Though I think I'll wait till I max science which is about three levels from now since I just plopped a level and a half into survival for Entomology.

I write anyway and today was a two pot of French roast coffee day... ;-)

[Chewbaka]

BUMP! HONEST HEARTS IS SMEXY! I'unno what is up with those caps and all that, but seriously, it's nice. The patch is nice too. It's essentially surgery for that one leg on that lady I was talking about. There are scars on it, but it looks awesome overall.

My only problem? How hard some encounters are. I'd rather tough it out, instead of toning down the difficulty. Makes my Manstache feel manlier.

Lonesome Road needs to get here now. I want some closure. >:/

[Skylar1]

well, I am disappointed.

Seeing as how the new 360 I got doesn't have a slot for a memory card, all my saved data in vegas is meaningless now. ;__;

I can always start over I suppose.

[GameGeeks]

well, I am disappointed.

Seeing as how the new 360 I got doesn't have a slot for a memory card, all my saved data in vegas is meaningless now. ;__;

I can always start over I suppose.
Just think of it as being able to correct any mistakes you made with the character and You've only done one char so far?

[Skylar1]

It's been a while since I've played it now, so it'll be a fresh start. lol

I'll make sure not to making the same mistakes I did the first time around at least o_o;