A World Without Awards & Awards Shows

[Robin Sena]

The fact that awards and their shows like The Grammys and the Oscars is a bloody waste of the taxpayers' money things would be a lot better and lovely if they never existed at all.

[International 4-8818]

Wait...... these shows are paid with tax payer money? last time i checked, no.

[Eris]

The fact that awards and their shows like The Grammys and the Oscars is a bloody waste of the taxpayers' money things would be a lot better and lovely if they never existed at all.

They're tax funded? I thought it was Hollywood, and not the government (it's a common mistake to mix those two up) that hosted that thing.

[Robin Sena]

They're tax funded? I thought it was Hollywood, and not the government (it's a common mistake to mix those two up) that hosted that thing.The people of Hollywood must pay their taxes sooner or later so that makes them taxpayers. Same with the stars that live there.

[International 4-8818]

I think you are just over thinking this. Isn't it all privately paid? I do habeeb so.

[Eris]

The people of Hollywood must pay their taxes sooner or later so that makes them taxpayers. Same with the stars that live there.

Yeah, but by a waste of taxpayers' money is generally meant squandering by the government, and not a waste of money that is owned by people who pay taxes.

[Diocletian]

All I have to say is why is it that they get an award for talking or "acting" very well in a movie, but I can't get an award for Ping Pong?

[International 4-8818]

All I have to say is why is it that they get an award for talking or "acting" very well in a movie, but I can't get an award for Ping Pong?
because A. acting is hard to do and they are awarded for making great strides to produce a great representation of the character
B. You either are terrible at ping pong or you have not entered into a ping pong contest.

[Eris]

because A. acting is hard to do and they are awarded for making great strides to produce a great representation of the character


Furthermore, people watch these awards out of their own free will. If nobody wanted to watch them, there would be no attention given to them in media. It's not like there's some sort of Oscar's Gestapo that pulls you into a van off the street and beats you up for not watching it, forcing people to seem to enjoy it.

[Diocletian]

because A. acting is hard to do and they are awarded for making great strides to produce a great representation of the character
B. You either are terrible at ping pong or you have not entered into a ping pong contest.

Reasons either the people were bribed OR they were "good actors" from what I remember.

How did Forest Whitaker beat Will Smith's performance in The Pursuit Of Happyness?

How the heck did Little Miss Sunshine even get nominated?

I was comparing my average skills in Ping Pong to actors winning something for being mediocre.

[Robin Sena]

Furthermore, people watch these awards out of their own free will. If nobody wanted to watch them, there would be no attention given to them in media. It's not like there's some sort of Oscar's Gestapo that pulls you into a van off the street and beats you up for not watching it, forcing people to seem to enjoy it.The media is the press, not the entertaiment industry. Also consider the money meant for paying the taxes is wasted on food, drink, drugs, outfits--all those stars showing off and acting prideful, riding arrogant in limos is a mark of pride which is a sin. Besides, they don't give a hang to the poor people nor the govement when it comes to their selfishness and their ego, and they're also above the law, 'cos even if they do get arrested, all they get is a slap on the wrist. Why should we give those tax evaders attion when they'd rather be poisoned by pride, greed, drugs, fortune and fame? Take away the awards shows, and just give them a check, so they can pay their taxes, simple as that. And have them just wear street clothes.

Besides, how hard is acting anyway?

[alarix]

Reasons either the people were bribed OR they were "good actors" from what I remember.

How did Forest Whitaker beat Will Smith's performance in The Pursuit Of Happyness?

How the heck did Little Miss Sunshine even get nominated?

I was comparing my average skills in Ping Pong to actors winning something for being mediocre.

I always think acting is more to do with talent than actual trained skill. It's not like those little kids that star in movies have had years of sweat training like I believe you would with pingpong. Acting is on of the things like art; if you aren't born with it, no matter how hard you train, you're just unlucky.

Good on those who get famous for a few minutes of screen time. For the rest of us, we will keep on ploughing backstage in other areas.

[Memento Mori]

I thought these events were privately paid for.

Also, rather than whine about how we don't need it...

Don't watch it and you'll have no reason to whine.

No one's forcing it down your throats. Acting is harder than you'd expect, it requires a lot of commitment and effort, and awards should be given to the best performances. Sure, you might not agree with who the awards are given to, but get over it.

Also, if you're mad about this, if this is paid for with tax payer's money, just wait til you see the crap the government does daily.

[Diocletian]

I thought these events were privately paid for.

Also, rather than whine about how we don't need it...

Don't watch it and you'll have no reason to whine.

No one's forcing it down your throats. Acting is harder than you'd expect, it requires a lot of commitment and effort, and awards should be given to the best performances. Sure, you might not agree with who the awards are given to, but get over it.

Also, if you're mad about this, if this is paid for with tax payer's money, just wait til you see the crap the government does daily.

I don't have to watch it, but when they kick 2 and a Half Men to make room for the Grammys that's when Hulk smash!:curses:

[Eris]

The media is the press, not the entertaiment industry. Also consider the money meant for paying the taxes is wasted on food, drink, drugs, outfits--all those stars showing off and acting prideful, riding arrogant in limos is a mark of pride which is a sin.

You obviously have no idea how capitalism works. Let me introduce the VAT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAT). Every time you buy something, a percentage of the money goes to the government, as a sort of "purchase tax". So, when you're "wasting" your money on food, drink and outfits, you're actually paying your taxes.

You also need to respect that these people may have a different interpretation of sin than you. Most people in Hollywood worship The Holy Dollar, and not God. To them, not spending money on extravagances is sinful.

[International 4-8818]

The media is the press, not the entertaiment industry. Also consider the money meant for paying the taxes is wasted on food, drink, drugs, outfits--all those stars showing off and acting prideful, riding arrogant in limos is a mark of pride which is a sin. Besides, they don't give a hang to the poor people nor the govement when it comes to their selfishness and their ego, and they're also above the law, 'cos even if they do get arrested, all they get is a slap on the wrist. Why should we give those tax evaders attion when they'd rather be poisoned by pride, greed, drugs, fortune and fame? Take away the awards shows, and just give them a check, so they can pay their taxes, simple as that. And have them just wear street clothes.

Besides, how hard is acting anyway?

Ok, well if lets say if you are doing a sport that you love and you wanted to get an award for all your hard work you have done. By your standards no.

It just seems like you have some bias against hollywood. But why do you care. I don't really give a rats ash about hollywood either but i enjoy seeing the award ceremonies. Eris does have a point about how this ceremony is paying towards taxes because there is purchas tax. So technically yeah they are paying their taxes.

[Robin Sena]

Even if I won a sport, I'd expect not a thing 'cos happiness and contentment is my only reward, not an inanimate material object that doesn't do a thing and is a mark of idol worship. Something made in an image and the Bible says "Thou shalt not make unto thee any image of any likeness." Remember the gold calf? The world and a lot of people's souls would be a lot better if awards never existed. And that is how the world look like if Grammys, Oscars, the lot, had never existed, no material idol worship, no greed. The only good for those bleedin award statuettes would be when their owners die, so they can use them to pay the helmsman before he rows them across The River Styx--the greedy stars, that is.

[International 4-8818]

Even if I won a sport, I'd expect not a thing 'cos happiness and contentment is my only reward, not an inanimate material object that doesn't do a thing and is a mark of idol worship. Something mad in an image and the Bible says "Thou shalt not make unto thee any image of any likeness." Remember the gold calf? The world and a lot of people's souls would be a lot better if awards never existed. And that is how the world look like if Grammys, Ocars, the lot, had never existed, no material idol worship, no greed.

Didn't god gave Job a reward for all the pain he went through? Didn't he give moses a reward? People do not worship the award. Well maybe some people, but who cares. It is a symbol of all the hard work they did to get that award. Much like the awards given to the people in the bible.

[Memento Mori]

Even if I won a sport, I'd expect not a thing 'cos happiness and contentment is my only reward, not an inanimate material object that doesn't do a thing and is a mark of idol worship.


No offense...

But you're probably lying.

Even if you really don't want an award, you shouldn't take that feeling onto other people. Guess what?

Celebrities want awards for all the hard work they put into movies.

And thus, those programs in which you hate were created.

To credit the actors/actresses who put a lot of effort into what they are paid for.

[Robin Sena]

Didn't god gave Job a reward for all the pain he went through? Didn't he give moses a reward? People do not worship the award. Well maybe some people, but who cares. It is a symbol of all the hard work they did to get that award. Much like the awards given to the people in the bible.i don't think it's the same thing at all. Remember Solomon and he got a lot of riches? In getting so much, he soon fell to idol worship which upset God who rended the kindom out from Solomon's ownership; after that, Solomon died.A symbol of so called hard work. More like earthly hard work, and that it's only good for melting down and casting it into the shape of a crucifix.

[Memento Mori]

i don't think it's the same thing at all. Remember Solomon and he got a lot of riches? In getting so much, he soon fell to idol worship which upset God who rended the kindom out from Solomon's ownership; after that, Solomon died.

I know this is kind of off topic...

But have you turned into Mavericker? o_O

Anyway, actors go through a lot of hardships [albeit tiny ones compared to the average lower middle class person] while making a movie, well, some do. Believe it or not.

Think about it. You have to commit so much to this one movie that might not even go well with audiences. Emotional distress, hell, time away from family and friends.

[International 4-8818]

i don't think it's the same thing at all. Remember Solomon and he got a lot of riches? In getting so much, he soon fell to idol worship which upset God who rended the kindom out from Solomon's ownership; after that, Solomon died.A symbol of so called hard work. More like earthly hard work, and that it's only good for melting down and casting it into the shape of a crucifix.

I think you are putting to much thought into this. Kids who play pee wee baseballs get little statues and you do not see them thriving for power. Really not that bad.

[Manhattan_Project_2000]

Besides, how hard is acting anyway?

I see someone never has never taken a Drama class.

Alright, go from zero to crying in three seconds and make it believable. Post some video of you doing it, while you're at it. It's easy right?

Acting, as in what actors do, is actually pretty damn hard to get right (unless you are basically playing yourself like most action actors do and Keanu Reeves does). It is:
Pretending to be another person that doesn't exist, and making that person seem complete even though you only know him from a few pages of scribbles written by a nerd in a trailer somewhere.
Pretending all the people you are working with are all different people that your character interacts with based on how he views them, and help them to be the characters they are supposed to be through your acting.
You also have to ignore all of the lights, cameras, and slave-people meandering around and pretend you are in whatever setting your character is. And you have to stand around for ungodly amounts of time and still look like you're as fresh as a daisy (or whatever) when they start the cameras again.

The fact that you can't walk ten feet without stepping in bad acting should give you some idea of how hard it is to actually pull off.

[Robin Sena]

Think about it. You have to commit so much to this one movie that might not even go well with audiences. Emotional distress, hell, time away from family and friends.What's wrong with that? If the film fails, it fails, you don't get paid, you just get another job. (scoffs) If I was an actress that won one of those "bulls that eat grass" stauettes, I'd just dash it to the floor and break it, say to everyone that it's all a big waste and kick the podium before walking off. Or beeter still, I wouldn't show up at all, even if my name were called. Also consider, that those ruddy money greedy God hating agnostic stars can't hang on to their statuettes forever; sooner or later when they did, they can't take them with them into the afterlife, so those awards should be collected from them and melted ino votive candle holders.

[International 4-8818]

What's wrong with that? If the film fails, it fails, you don't get paid, you just get another job. (scoffs) If I was an actress that won one of those "bulls that eat grass" stauettes, I'd just dash it to the floor and break it, say to everyone that it's all a big waste and kick the podium before walking off. Or beeter still, I wouldn't show up at all, even if my name were called. Also consider, that those ruddy money greedy God hating agnostic stars can't hang on to their statuettes forever; sooner or later when they did, they can't take them with them into the afterlife, so those awards should be collected from them and melted ino votive candle holders.

Ok well you obviously hold a grudge against someone. I say bullcrap that you would do that. You make a scene like that infront of everyone and disgrace what people have put before you? Thousands of people make that ceremony and it would show thanks by accepting that award. Acting like an ash and kicking down the podium and throwing the award on the ground would be disgraceful and people would not even listen to what you have to say.

[Manhattan_Project_2000]

What's wrong with that? If the film fails, it fails, you don't get paid, you just get another job. (scoffs) If I was an actress that won one of those "bulls that eat grass" stauettes, I'd just dash it to the floor and break it, say to everyone that it's all a big waste and kick the podium before walking off. Or beeter still, I wouldn't show up at all, even if my name were called. Also consider, that those ruddy money greedy God hating agnostic stars can't hang on to their statuettes forever; sooner or later when they did, they can't take them with them into the afterlife, so those awards should be collected from them and melted ino votive candle holders.
Agnostics don't hate god. Why would you hate something that you don't have any opinion on the existance of? At least think before you string words together.

[Robin Sena]

I see someone never has never taken a Drama class.

Alright, go from zero to crying in three seconds and make it believable. Post some video of you doing it, while you're at it. It's easy right?

Acting, as in what actors do, is actually pretty damn hard to get right (unless you are basically playing yourself like most action actors do and Keanu Reeves does). It is:

Pretending to be another person that doesn't exist, and making that person seem complete even though you only know him from a few pages of scribbles written by a nerd in a trailer somewhere.
Pretending all the people you are working with are all different people that your character interacts with based on how he views them, and help them to be the characters they are supposed to be through your acting.
You also have to ignore all of the lights, cameras, and slave-people meandering around and pretend you are in whatever setting your character is. And you have to stand around for ungodly amounts of time and still look like you're as fresh as a daisy (or whatever) when they start the cameras again.
The fact that you can't walk ten feet without stepping in bad acting should give you some idea of how hard it is to actually pull off.You left out one more rule that all actors must take in classes--cursing like sailors, even at the risk of their own souls. Likewise for posing nude and nasty sex scenes and to accept demeaning roles and demeaning scripts.

[International 4-8818]

You left out one more rule that all actors must take in classes--cursing like sailors, even at the risk of their own souls. Likewise for posing nude and nasty sex scenes and to accept demeaning roles and demeaning scripts.
Well that did not even make any sense. There is a role that says you have to curse like a "sailor"? since when?

[Memento Mori]

What's wrong with that? If the film fails, it fails, you don't get paid, you just get another job. (scoffs) If I was an actress that won one of those "bulls that eat grass" stauettes, I'd just dash it to the floor and break it, say to everyone that it's all a big waste and kick the podium before walking off. Or beeter still, I wouldn't show up at all, even if my name were called. Also consider, that those ruddy money greedy God hating agnostic stars can't hang on to their statuettes forever; sooner or later when they did, they can't take them with them into the afterlife, so those awards should be collected from them and melted ino votive candle holders.

Because you'd be mad. Because the movie you put all that blood, all those tears, and all that sweat into failed.

A movie, something everyone takes for granted, doesn't just happen, it takes time. You don't seem to get how hard it is to act, and how talented or hardworking you must be to get these awards.

They don't just hand them out like candy. I think the awards could be there so the actors have something to work for besides money.

Do you think the actors/actresses who've never won an award for acting in their life will get a big role in a movie? Or will the actress who's won so many, she plays with them like dolls?

The actors/actresses who get more awards get more money, it's just that simple.

I don't see how it's okay for us to give away awards for being able to spell, but if we give away awards for something as hard as acting, it's bad.

[ALSO, I might have not gotten the memo because I haven't been as active, but is Robin Sena really just Mavericker in disguise? <_<;]

[Eris]

[ALSO, I might have not gotten the memo because I haven't been as active, but is Robin Sena really just Mavericker in disguise? <_<;]

Probably, or some confederate of his. Sena's MO is straight out of the Mavericker book of how to troll AF.

[Manhattan_Project_2000]

You left out one more rule that all actors must take in classes--cursing like sailors, even at the risk of their own souls. Likewise for posing nude and nasty sex scenes and to accept demeaning roles and demeaning scripts.
Please. You can choose your roles. It's in your contract. Many people refuse to do nude scenes. Regardless, nude scenes and foul language aren't mortal sins, unless they involve taking "The Lord's name in vain*". Also, most movie sex isn't sex at all, so adultery isn't a factor either even if they are married.

*- The General interpretation of the commandment is "to never take the name of God in a vain, pointless or insincere oath." Acting would probably entail none of these things, unless your version of Yahweh is completely blind to subtext.

[Sanosuke23]

This whole thread is just one big LOL WUT.


Probably, or some confederate of his. Sena's MO is straight out of the Mavericker book of how to troll AF.

All in all though, Sena's slightly more effective since they came in declaring they're autistic, so now regardless of whether or not they're actually trolling, there's a backstory for them to fall back to.

For example, Mavericker posts something batcrap insane and everybody will ridicule him for it. Sena does the same, if someone calls them out on it all they have to do is remind people they're autistic and, in the eyes of the rank-and-file at least, the person ridiculing them is demonized for picking on an autistic kid.

Pretty sneaky, sis.

[Robin Sena]

With all due respect, if the awards never existed, all the money wasted on food, liqur, drigs, posh clothing, and the award statuettes could go to poor people as well as feeding the poor peole as well.

Besides, have you checked Mavrick's IP address? I doubt if he shares mine.

[International 4-8818]

With all due respect, if the awards never existed, all the money wasted on food, liqur, drigs, posh clothing, and the award statuettes could go to poor people as well as feeding the poor peole as well.

Besides, have you checked Mavrick's IP address? I doubt if he shares mine.
jesus made wine and drank that stuff to which is alcohol. Just stop now. Just, go back to your nerdery and stop talking.

[Fabala]

You say this right after the madness that was the Olympics? People love to compete, to win awards, to get to the "top," to be labeled the best at something. You see it everywhere. Employee of the month, Olympic medals, literary awards, science awards, Oscars...all things designed around our competitiveness. What's sad is how little real talent is awarded anymore. So much comes down to money, ability to schmooze, whether or not the topic at hand is "in vogue," and so on.

Perhaps if we didn't hold winners of awards on pedestals as we do, there would be less inclination to whatever necessary in order to procure one.

[Eris]

All in all though, Sena's slightly more effective since they came in declaring they're autistic, so now regardless of whether or not they're actually trolling, there's a backstory for them to fall back to.

For example, Mavericker posts something batcrap insane and everybody will ridicule him for it. Sena does the same, if someone calls them out on it all they have to do is remind people they're autistic and, in the eyes of the rank-and-file at least, the person ridiculing them is demonized for picking on an autistic kid.

Pretty sneaky, sis.

Ah, but what they didn't take into account is that this is the interwebs, the official home of the callous douchebag. We've been making fun of fat, suicidal and/or disabled people for over a decade. And nobody cares (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Nobody_cares).

[Robin Sena]

Pretty sneaky, sis.I am not your sister.

[Manhattan_Project_2000]

With all due respect, if the awards never existed, all the money wasted on food, liqur, drigs, posh clothing, and the award statuettes could go to poor people as well as feeding the poor peole as well.

Besides, have you checked Mavrick's IP address? I doubt if he shares mine.
Well, to be fair, you do share the same Internet Provider, albeit no direct IP matches and different results via traceroute. Not that it really matters, because it isn't hard to use a proxy.

I'm not buying the Mavericker -> Robin thing, although I'm not sure that Robin isn't a troll, and that there isn't a connection between the two.

[Eris]

I am not your sister.

Ah, but you are not me, so you can't say 'I'. Only I can say I.

[Sanosuke23]

Ah, but what they didn't take into account is that this is the interwebs, the official home of the callous douchebag. We've been making fun of fat, suicidal and/or disabled people for over a decade. And nobody cares (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Nobody_cares).


Ah, but what YOU didn't take into account is that this is a forum with a large amount of internets-ignorant teenagers who will totally call you a meanieface for being a callous douchebag. While you won't beat many grizzled veterans, you'll certainly win over the bright-eyed youngsters that are the usual target of trolling attempts.


I am not your sister.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU1K4X_LOxY

[Manhattan_Project_2000]

Well, what YOU didn't take into account is that the grizzly veterans always have higher rep scores, and are therefore always right.

[Sanosuke23]

Well what YOU didn't take into account is that I clearly said grizzled veterans, and through that I was referring to the internet as a whole and not just this one corner of it.

I may be less grizzly, but I didn't wanna be a stupid bear anyhow!

[Manhattan_Project_2000]

Well, what YOU didn't take into account is that bears are clearly cooler then bits of stray bone matter found in cooked meat.

[International 4-8818]

Well, what YOU didn't take into account is that bears are clearly cooler then bits of stray bone matter found in cooked meat.


Colbert says that bears are not cool. Colbert knows his stuff.

[Manhattan_Project_2000]

Colbert says that bears are not cool. Colbert knows his stuff.
Comparative coolness. Grizzle is bad times. Grizzlies are also bad times, but at least you can respect a GODAMNED BEAR.

[International 4-8818]

Comparative coolness. Grizzle is bad times. Grizzlies are also bad times, but at least you can respect a GODAMNED BEAR.

Sure i can, but Colbert knows all.

[Ωmega]

This has gotten way off topic o_o;;