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iRevo
11-21-2007, 08:43 PM
I was in church the other day and an interesting question came from my priest," Is Ressurection Immortality?". Many pondered about this he came with an answer in the end,No.

So what do you think? Is it or is it not?

gyakusetsu
11-21-2007, 08:44 PM
One sentence, If you can be killed again it is not immortality.

╬Karami Mew~Meow
11-21-2007, 08:49 PM
Well, I'm not really sure.
Resurrection can't be immortality if you could die again. So, it'll have to be no.
Unless, their's some kind of something that resurrects you, and at the same times, gives you the ability of immortality, then that's a different story.

Jose
11-21-2007, 08:49 PM
One sentence, If you can be killed again it is not immortality.
exactly my denifition IM means not like not mortal so NO because if you have been resurected then you dies means you are mortal

gyakusetsu
11-21-2007, 08:54 PM
exactly my denifition IM means not like not mortal so NO because if you have been resurected then you dies means you are mortal
What I meant was if you get resurrected only to die permanently you are dead and therefore not immortal. If you can keep coming back though that would be a type of immortality, albeit a less than optimal one.

Reniti
11-21-2007, 08:55 PM
Although I'm not Christian/Catholic, I would say no, because having immortality means that you will never die, but if you were resurrected, you were just brought back from the state of being dead. It doesn't mean you can't die again.

Jose
11-21-2007, 08:56 PM
What I meant was if you get resurrected only to die permanently you are dead and therefore not immortal. If you can keep coming back though that would be a type of immortality, albeit a less than optimal one.


not really
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–adjective 1.not mortal; not liable or subject to death; undying: our immortal souls.


you see if you die that make mortal no matter how many times you die XD

KuroTan
11-21-2007, 09:00 PM
Although I'm not Christian/Catholic,

I don't think that really mattered with the question.

My answer would be no. Immortality is living forever. With resurrection, this meant you died already, like what the others said.

Tetsanosuke
11-21-2007, 09:09 PM
not really
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you see if you die that make mortal no matter how many times you die XD


That's by the literal meaning. But taking it by comparison... To come back to life over and over again is a type of immortality because you are never eternally dead. You die and are returned to life, and the process continues. Which means it's the process that's never going to die. If that process is a part of you, then you are immortal as well.

There's another way to look at it.

gyakusetsu
11-21-2007, 09:10 PM
not really
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–adjective 1.not mortal; not liable or subject to death; undying: our immortal souls.


you see if you die that make mortal no matter how many times you die XD
Undying: that is the key word. You can play with semantics but you do not truly "die" if you keep being resurrected. Mortality is something that ENDS! Constant resurrection would preclude that end, would it not?

Jose
11-21-2007, 09:19 PM
Undying: that is the key word. You can play with semantics but you do not truly "die" if you keep being resurrected. Mortality is something that ENDS! Constant resurrection would preclude that end, would it not?


yes however even if only for a nano second you still end therefore it is not immortality

bakakame
11-21-2007, 09:39 PM
If you keep your memories from one life to the next then I'd say yes, that's immortality to me. Otherwise no, and for all we'd know we could all have been resurected thousands of times.

gyakusetsu
11-21-2007, 09:44 PM
yes however even if only for a nano second you still end therefore it is not immortality
Inside of your strict "Webster's" definition, yes. That is a rather...how do I say...illogical way of looking at it. It would still grant you everlasting life which in essence IS immortality.

TamaChanForEVAH
11-21-2007, 11:36 PM
No. In order for ressurection to happen, death must first occur. Immortality is never ending life and SO ressurection does not = immortality.

Thingle
11-21-2007, 11:45 PM
No.

Njrotcgurl
11-21-2007, 11:50 PM
I'd have to say no. The point already been made but if you die you can't be immortal. To be immortal means to never die. Resurrection and Immortality contradict each other.

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CyraXZero
11-22-2007, 12:14 PM
if only once: nope...

if you get ressurected everytime you are killed then yes....but then again noone knows if you will eventually die by age so....

i'm guessin' it's no

Aizmov
11-22-2007, 12:21 PM
No it isn't. This is in regards to our current life, but in regards to the after life I don't know. Though supposedly the after life is meant to be forever, but does that mean immortality, I don't know.

Storm Strife
11-22-2007, 01:34 PM
Even if you go by the definition of immortality, or (for the purposes of this post) the practice of resurection, no. If you are immortal, you can never die, which probably gets really awkward once you reach the age of 200, seing as it's likely you would be in agony. To be resurected, you have to die, and thus have to be mortal. And even if resurection was possible, I have doubts about being resurected after you die of natural causes.

Last Templar Knight
11-22-2007, 02:04 PM
Resurrection is just like giving someone a extra life in a game..... and as you progress you will die... again, so how can it be a immortality if you die?
because immortality is where you live for ever, and if you die how would that work???

Bittersweet
11-22-2007, 03:31 PM
I think of immortality as staying the same body, never growing old, and being immune to things that could kill you.
Ressurection, you can die, grow old, and get fatal diseases and many other things.

This is just my opinion.

Saiyan Destroyer
11-23-2007, 02:59 PM
Being able to revive people or self resurrect does mean you're Immortal. Immortality means the inablity to die. Resurrections and Reviving means to bring one back to life. THey're not the same. Just because you can revive someone/yourself doesn't mean it always works. Death is FINAL.

Nephthys
11-23-2007, 03:04 PM
well for one thing you died in the first place so no, second this implys you can be killed again so no, immortality means not being able to die.

Konata Izumi
11-23-2007, 06:30 PM
No, resurrection isn't immortality, cause to be immortal means to not die, ever. And to resurrect you need to die.

Hypergraphian
11-24-2007, 11:18 AM
Resurrection isn't immortality for the reason that the earlier refers to coming back to life but in an ethereal sense. Where as immortality is more of living forever in your bodily form. That's my two cents worth.