Girls In Video Games.

[Naruto-Girl]

HEY I WAS Wondering do you think that the creators are being sexest... i mean i dont see a lot of girls in video games and stuff.. and when they are they dont do anything good or important. so tell me what you think..

[Ami~chan]

HEY I WAS Wondering do you think that the creators are being sexest... i mean i dont see a lot of girls in video games and stuff.. and when they are they dont do anything good or important. so tell me what you think..
Two words: Metroid Prime.

[viewtyjoe]

When you do something, you gotta play to your demographic. Since the primary demographic of video games (for the most part) is something like 12-30-something males, there aren't going to be many girls that are neither 1) sex symbols, a la Lara Croft, or 2) damsels in distress.

[Piper]

When you do something, you gotta play to your demographic. Since the primary demographic of video games (for the most part) is something like 12-30-something males, there aren't going to be many girls that are neither 1) sex symbols, a la Lara Croft, or 2) damsels in distress.I beg to defer. It actually boils down to opinion on that. For example, Lara Croft may be wearing very high shorts, and a tank, but it's all a matter of perspective. I don't view her as a sex symbol. You're confusing her with Britney Spears.

As far as females being in games.. There are MULTIPLE games with female characters, as far as them being the main character, there are few, but like the member above me stated, the (majority) of games are directed toward the male audiance, and for some odd reason, being a female in the game is off to them, when (most not all) of them, play WoW as females.

Ah well.

[DemonToaster]

All true, all true. I've encountered at least three games in which you can or are forced to play as a girl. Silent Hill 3 for one. FFX-2, and Star Ocean 2 are the others.

[Vel]

Harvest Moon and Pokemon - you can play as a girl too.

[Regex]

I beg to defer. It actually boils down to opinion on that. For example, Lara Croft may be wearing very high shorts, and a tank, but it's all a matter of perspective. I don't view her as a sex symbol. You're confusing her with Britney Spears.You may not view her as such, but that's how she's treated by the creators and many of the gamers. I knew many a kid in junior high who got that game just to watch her flip over and over and over again. From interviews and quotes, the game creators definitely knew what they were making with the Tomb Raider series.


As far as females being in games.. There are MULTIPLE games with female characters, as far as them being the main character, there are few, but like the member above me stated, the (majority) of games are directed toward the male audiance, and for some odd reason, being a female in the game is off to them, when (most not all) of them, play WoW as females.

Ah well.This does have a lot of truth to it. What it comes down to is the type of character created. You look at the Resident Evil games, which started with female leads, the characters were made for that. Meanwhile you have games like Max Payne, where that character wouldn't have worked as a female. However, both of these games are targetted to males.

If we want to go back further into the history of gaming, we have Mario. For as long as we remember, we have had Mario saving the girl. Why is that? Because even 20+ years ago, people weren't thinking a lot about sexism in video games. Saving the damsel in distress, that was a common theme. Mario's character has developed, and most of the time you still find Mario saving the princess, just because that's historically what he has done.
However, we did have Peach playing the lead in the recent DS game "Super Princess Peach". The interesting thing about this game was how girly they made it. Peach operates primarily on manipulating her emotions to progress in the game.

It's really true though. Very few games have females without portraying them as either sex objects or the damsel in distress. From your Dead or Alive games to your Mario games.

Of course you have your exceptions. Off the top of my head, I can think of Samus from Metroid, Joanna Dark from Perfect Dark, Jill from Resident Evil.. RPG's generally keep from that as well. I didn't ever think of Aeris or Yuna (FFX, X-2 is a different story) as a sex object or all that much of an actual damsel in distress. Certainly not the girls in Final Fantasy 4-6.


So why do guys like to play girls in MMO games? Simple. They're made to look pretty. Guys like the idea of watching a pretty girl kick butt for hours on end, rather than a buffed out guy who they could never compare to.

[Miss Moonlight]

I don't think creators are being 'sexist' by NOT having women in their games ..

I think they are being sexist when they exploit women in their games. There's a difference, really.

[Buruku]

Yes in more and more games being made today women are being shown in negative ways. But this it not surprising in the least, this happens all the time, for instance anime is the WORST at portraying women in a steriotypical way, dont even try to argue that. And since the video game industry is male dominated of COURSE this was going to happen once graphics got good enough to creat realistic looking people.

I have no problem with games that feature attractive women, but I do think its pathetic if thats what drives a guy to play the game.I know its hard to believe, but there ARE better things then bouncing tits. And I know guys that do get sick of all these games with porn-star looking chicks.

And as far as featuring more women as lead roles, I dont really care about that. Theres no difference to me if its a guy,girl,troll,dragon, I'll play with a dang stick figure if the game was good.

I just dont want to see video games become too smutty. I was perfectly happy with climbing ladders and jumping over barrels just to save some 8-bit princess.

[Kittyninjamewmew]

well i think they SHOULD make more video games with girls in them so........CRUD! i forgot wat i wuz gonna say!

[Music Fiend]

Two words: Metroid Prime.
Right on!

If you are actively looking for sexism with video games, you're going to find it. Grand Theft Auto had prostitutes, DOA has near-naked female fighters, and the market isn't exactly flooded with RPGs that have female leds. However, you have kick butt girls like Samus, in the Metroid series, and Jade, in Beyond Good and Evil, take the helm in the video game and star as the main protagonists. Peach had to save Mario in Super Princess Peach. Since video gamers are mostly male, companies are more likely to put in a male led, so that their audience can relate to them. They also add eye candy, like in DOA, because...well...that's what most guys want. Instead of complaning, more females she be develpoing games of their own, so that they can have characters to identify with.

[Dr.McDoom!]

i got Tomb Raider once, in '99. Deleted it after 5 minutes of play. 5 Years later, i read on a magasine forum that the object of the game was LARA as a sex symbol. And i was surprised to read a rough number of guys playing that game just because of her breasts.
One thing for sure in video games: Girls with small breasts(like in reality) DON'T exist.
Like, what's so wrong in adding a bit of realism in the game? They feel frustrated that they have a powerfull graphics engine in their hands that they should make normal/less attractive/non-whorish girls to enhance realism.
In some anime games(or some anime) you notice this factor when you see all those incredibly large Ribbons, Hair, Eyes, part-dresses and... breasts.

Anybody played Blood Rayne ? I can't believe i payed 60 bucks for that! The general idea of a sexy, red-haired, bouncy-breast vampire, slashing soldiers(humans) in a frenetic, inhuman way... really scares me. It just made it so obvious what that game was about: Sex and Violence. They knew we wanted that, so they tottaly pumped it up to the maximum in that game.

[Naruto-Girl]

I know a lot of guys just geting games with girls in them to see them jump around.. and in a lot of games like GTA seires the have half naked girls walking around.. i say girls should have a better part..

[Music Fiend]

I know a lot of guys just geting games with girls in them to see them jump around.. and in a lot of games like GTA seires the have half naked girls walking around.. i say girls should have a better part..
Once again, there are girls that have leads in video games (and they don't look like trash, either). Also, once again, the industry is mainly male gamers. Good looking girls attracts many guys to the game. If female developers want to come in and make games that have fully clothed, intelligent, powerful female leds, then more power to them! But please, it's not that bad, people! Pick up a copy of Metroid Prime and relax.

[zan]

ok so medtroied is a girl so what.. i mean come on half of the people dont know shes a girl.. and she only takes off her helmet once.. and you never see her shes in a suit.. and zelda doesnt do anything i mean i like her why doesnt she have a better part then being kidnapped. i think that the makers of vidoe games dont think girls are that great.. shame on them.

[Music Fiend]

ok so medtroied is a girl so what.. i mean come on half of the people dont know shes a girl.. and she only takes off her helmet once.. and you never see her shes in a suit.. and zelda doesnt do anything i mean i like her why doesnt she have a better part then being kidnapped. i think that the makers of vidoe games dont think girls are that great.. shame on them.
Dude, if someone didn't know that Samus is a girl, I wouldn't even consider them a great gamer. It's one of the most well-known video game facts. She has taken her helmet off more than once...in Metroid Prime 2, Metroid Zero Mission...come on, now. She even stripped down to her Zero suit in Zero Mission, exposing her face and blond pony tail.

Actually, Zelda has help Link out a few times. Remember Shiek, in Ocarina of Time? Yeah, that kick-butt warrior was Zelda, in disguise. How about when Zelda nails Ganondorf with light arrows, in The Wind Waker? Not to mention Tetra the Pirate. The Zelda storyline is steeped in tradition, so the "princess is kidnapped" thing is going to be used, just like with Peach.

You see, you people are looking for problems in video games. You are looking for any excuse to make these developers seem like lowly, disgusting, perverted trash. Well, I'm here to be the voice of reason.

[Kristen]

Not at all. o_O There are tons of games with girls in them and games the revolve entirely around girls (i.e Final Fantasy X/-2). It just depends on the type of game you like. If you want blood, guts and gross, you're generally not going to find girls plastered all over it.

Also, girls are usually more sexual objects for games. If there are games that are blood/guts/gross with a girl in it, it's usually more of a sex appeal kind of thing, as Regex previously stated. But that isn't thus limited to. o_O

[Piper]

So why do guys like to play girls in MMO games? Simple. They're made to look pretty. Guys like the idea of watching a pretty girl kick butt for hours on end, rather than a buffed out guy who they could never compare to.That is very true. But what strikes me as odd, is they have no problem playing games like "God of War" for the Ps2, or Prince of Persia, or any other lead male character that has the "athletic" build.

[zan]

come on are you kidding so what samus is a girl wow im a gamer and didnt know that because the game didnt look that great.. and shiek helps like once so what so 1 second out of hours of game play zelda does some stuff.. your wrong..

[Souhi]

come on are you kidding so what samus is a girl wow im a gamer and didnt know that because the game didnt look that great.. and shiek helps like once so what so 1 second out of hours of game play zelda does some stuff.. your wrong..Uhm no he's not wrong my friend, he makes a good point in favour of his own personal opinion, show some respect. I'll accept your opinion on Metroid and Zelda, but they do a bit more than just stand around looking pretty.

Games with attractive women aren't necessarily bad, but when they became the entire focus of the game....well that's a different story altogether. All the best points in this discussion seem to have been made, and I have to agree. The vast majority of gamers are male, and attractive women as leads (pixelated or not) certainly attracts that audience. But like Piper pointed out, being the tough male protagonist can draw in the same audience.

It really isn't so black and white.

[nekosarai]

HEY I WAS Wondering do you think that the creators are being sexest... i mean i dont see a lot of girls in video games and stuff.. and when they are they dont do anything good or important. so tell me what you think..
Well, its a common fact that males play videogames alot more than females so naturally the games are going to target the male audience more but in a way I think videogame creators are a wee bit sexist. If the creators focused on target the female audience more I think there would be alot more female gamers. Thats just my opinion though.

Oh yeah I'm a female videogame addict...:D

[Tetsanosuke]

I'd actually love to find more RPGs with female leads! It would prove very interesting. For example I'd like to play:

Rhapsody; A musical adventure (Although a 20 hour game, I'd still like a shot at it!)
Valkyre Profile
Parasite Eve (I've played 2)

And other RPGs with female leads:
Wild Arms 3 (Virginia is a Lead character! ^^)
Wild Arms 1 (One of the lead characters is female)
Legends of Mana (You can choose to be female)
La Pucelle Tactics (Prier has a very painful move...)
Dark Cloud 2 (One of the lead Char is female)

[king nothing]

look at final fantasy. every one of them has had at least 3 girls in each one.
and FFX had yuna lulu and rikku that went on into the next FF. I dont think the creators are being sexist, but thats just me.

[Cantelope]

Post removed due to language.

[zan]

im Naruto-Girls brother.. ok and she say that some games have girls but.. theres millions of games and not a lot of them have girls.. and what games have girls they make the girls look sexy because they have to because most people wont buy a game with a girl unless they are half naked i know this..

[pyrothunder336]

Final Fantasy X-2 and Metroid Prime. FFX2 there was nothing but girls fighting so you can't really say its sexist and the same goes for Metroid Prime. Also in most rpg games, a girl is the most important character in it. They might not fight but they usually get a huge role in the story plot.

[Miss Moonlight]

I don't know.

Why am I thinking that some women will find anything sexist?

if there are girls in games, then its sexist .. if there are no girls in games, then it is sexist.

Of course, it depends on why they are there. If they are there soley for entertainment value and to jump up and down, that's sexist. If they are there as a major supporting character, it isn't noticed, and therefore, still sexist. Ok then.

[Princess Cupcake]

I 100% Agree. Girls in video games are just there to look at. And most of the time they have no use. It gets me angry a lot of times.

[zan]

yeah girls are just there to look at i mean theres on some games with girls..

[narunaru]

clear one thing up for me... how can u use a FFX2 avatar, and have the guts to say that?

[lex__luthor]

yah met4roid prime but they cover her face and i dont think they are

[nintendo/zelda=isTHEbest]

WELL i think they are.. in most video games with girls they are half naked so i think they are just doing that so more people
[/url]
will buy the game..

http://myspace-380.vo.llnwd.net/00729/08/36/729116380_s.gif (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=1039523)
(http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=1039523)
(http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=1039523)
[url="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=1039523"]

[Nighthawk]

well i think they SHOULD make more video games with girls in them so........CRUD! i forgot wat i wuz gonna say!
like Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball? :laugh: *duck*

[Skeith/Haseo Wave]

Post removed due to language.

[Sasuke is God]

for this post...i must recite the #1 rule of anime... GIRLS HIT HARDER THEN THE VILLIANS!! and if its a female villian....well then you know you're about to get whooped!! lol

[Orca]

Alright, Alright I hear everyone saying that there are many games having woman as the main character. Though the only game mentioned having a woman as the main character of use if FFX-2, Metroid, and Tomb Raider.

There are other gaems besides those although its mostly because those are games that are "well-known". Is it not the fact that people are going for games that are more "popular" is to reason why they cannot find much main character woman in games ?

There is blood rayne which was an okay game staring a Vampire Woman am i right ?
Woam in video games are usally for support as i've seen previously. Such as Tifa from FF-7 although not the main character she was deeply involved in the storyline aswell as Aerith/Aeris.

Those of fighting games mostly hae girls who i've seen before as well can kick-a**. Such as ivy which i've seen. Despite some games that are, well i think are merely there for pleasures(dead or alive beach vollyball) *wink wink* there are still games were woman may not be the main character but play an important role in the game.

[Zantetsuken]

Uh, am I the only one here that knows sex sells?

[Tetsanosuke]

I 100% Agree. Girls in video games are just there to look at. And most of the time they have no use. It gets me angry a lot of times.
Well when ladies play videogames, what do you think they do? Maybe notice the guys? Probly? Just a thought!

As I have stated earlier, their are other games than FFx-2 and Metroid Prime with Female leads

(Just to re-cap)
Rhapsody; A musical adventure
Valkyre Profile
Parasite Eve 1 and 2
Wild Arms 3 (Virginia is a Lead character! ^^ You can walk around as her!)
Wild Arms 1 (One of the lead characters is female, same as W.A. 1)
Legends of Mana (You can choose to be female)
La Pucelle Tactics (Prier has a very painful move...)
Dark Cloud 2 (One of the lead Char is female)
Atelier Iris 2: Their are two characters to switch between and one of them is female.

[Anime is poison]

I beg to differ on that. Metroid Prime, Super Princess Peach, a lot of the Final Fantasies, and rpgs in general, play crucial roles in Video Games. Sure, you didn't see a lot back in the day, and they don't use uzis very often to kill enemies, but they still exsist. The following is a small list of games that feature women as main roles, or strong roles, in a video game.


Metroid Prime
Super Princess Peach
Perfect Dark and Perfect Dark Zero
Some PS game that featured two chicks fighting crime that were a little too close(forget the darn name)
Resident Evil
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3
Resident Evil Zero
Resident Evil Code Veronica
Final Fantasy 5
Final Fantasy 6
Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy 8
Final Fantasy 9
Final Fantasy 10
Final Fantasy 10-2
Baulder's Gate
Tomb Raider
Tomb Raider 2
Tomb Raider 3
Dead or Alive
Dead or Alive 2
Dead or Alive 3
Dead or Alive Beach Volleyball
The Legend of Zelda
There, I was able to get 25 in less than 3 minutes. So yeah, most game companies are not sexist, and do include women in a vast amount of games they make.

[samuriagent]

ok, this is going to sound 'sexist' , i think,

guys play games more than girls, and i'm not sure if you've noticed, but guys dont really like to be girls...unless its for other reasons(nother topic)...so of course games will be made to suit the likings of it's main catagory of, are you even giving me your attn? just like anything else games are made to fit its main base of fans, ie guys, yeah, thats why.

[Snowscala_Xx]

i think its pretty good that theres not alot of girls in rpgs like x2 its pretty good even with girls but if you play hitman and what nots it makes girl seem bad.. and make the players feel judgmental about the makers so even even is pretty good like final fantasy games O.o

[[BlackDeath]]

HEY I WAS Wondering do you think that the creators are being sexest... i mean i dont see a lot of girls in video games and stuff.. and when they are they dont do anything good or important. so tell me what you think..ROFL you got this completly wrong, if anythings women rule the games now. People use many female game characters to sell there games, using sex appeal also. Dump a pretty girl on the cover of a game can sell loads.


Uh, am I the only one here that knows sex sells?Nope, I hear ya.

[Orca]

I beg to differ on that. Metroid Prime, Super Princess Peach, a lot of the Final Fantasies, and rpgs in general, play crucial roles in Video Games. Sure, you didn't see a lot back in the day, and they don't use uzis very often to kill enemies, but they still exsist. The following is a small list of games that feature women as main roles, or strong roles, in a video game.

Metroid Prime
Super Princess Peach
Perfect Dark and Perfect Dark Zero
Some PS game that featured two chicks fighting crime that were a little too close(forget the darn name)
Resident Evil
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3
Resident Evil Zero
Resident Evil Code Veronica
Final Fantasy 5
Final Fantasy 6
Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy 8
Final Fantasy 9
Final Fantasy 10
Final Fantasy 10-2
Baulder's Gate
Tomb Raider
Tomb Raider 2
Tomb Raider 3
Dead or Alive
Dead or Alive 2
Dead or Alive 3
Dead or Alive Beach Volleyball
The Legend of Zelda
There, I was able to get 25 in less than 3 minutes. So yeah, most game companies are not sexist, and do include women in a vast amount of games they make.

I think you mean fear effect ?

[Sega saturn x]

Nobody here seems to get that a women being a leading role doesn't equal being a strong character.

[nintendo/zelda=isTHEbest]

I beg to differ on that. Metroid Prime, Super Princess Peach, a lot of the Final Fantasies, and rpgs in general, play crucial roles in Video Games. Sure, you didn't see a lot back in the day, and they don't use uzis very often to kill enemies, but they still exsist. The following is a small list of games that feature women as main roles, or strong roles, in a video game.

Metroid Prime
Super Princess Peach
Perfect Dark and Perfect Dark Zero
Some PS game that featured two chicks fighting crime that were a little too close(forget the darn name)
Resident Evil
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3
Resident Evil Zero
Resident Evil Code Veronica
Final Fantasy 5
Final Fantasy 6
Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy 8
Final Fantasy 9
Final Fantasy 10
Final Fantasy 10-2
Baulder's Gate
Tomb Raider
Tomb Raider 2
Tomb Raider 3
Dead or Alive
Dead or Alive 2
Dead or Alive 3
Dead or Alive Beach Volleyball
The Legend of Zelda
There, I was able to get 25 in less than 3 minutes. So yeah, most game companies are not sexist, and do include women in a vast amount of games they make.

__________________________________________________ ______________


Wrong in zelda well zelda does nothing and in most of theose games the girls are half naked or have big boobes i mean tomb rader she has big boobes and a lot of people like watching her jump around becuase of her breasts. ADMINS IM SORRY IF I WASNT SPOSE TO SAY THE B WORD IM REALLY SORRY.

[The-_-Wizard]

Well i wouldnt say they are sexist i mean theres not a lot of games with girls its juct most gamers are guys and dont wana play every game if the main person is a girl..

[Sega saturn x]

Post removed due to language.

[Rin!]

I think the creators of vedio games have run out of ideas. Its either that or they think boys/men are stronger than girls. Not all the time.. They could put a stronger, in control girl in one of their up-coming video games. That would be very greatfull.

[Suichiro Taguchi]

theres not alot of games for girls.. i think
well my sister has barbie, and the sims

[sheenafan1000]

There are quite a few DECENT games for girls, but quite a few other games do have rather "scantily clad" girls as characters. Then there is the games like most mario ones, where they depict girls as "damsels in distress". They need to release more games that have girls that aren't all THAT scantily clad as the main characters. I mean, I know that nowdays, sex sells, but they could at least make a couple. There should be a couple out there for all us gamer girls!

[The-_-Wizard]

There are quite a few DECENT games for girls, but quite a few other games do have rather "scantily clad" girls as characters. Then there is the games like most mario ones, where they depict girls as "damsels in distress". They need to release more games that have girls that aren't all THAT scantily clad as the main characters. I mean, I know that nowdays, sex sells, but they could at least make a couple. There should be a couple out there for all us gamer girls!____________________________________________ ______________________

thats ture even thou im not a girl... and you are right about all that.....

[der Scharfschüt]

I'm sure people already said these but TombRaider, Metroid, & DOA. (and RumbleRosesXX if that counts XD)

[Kakashi Sharingan eye]

I havent seen a game where girls are useful i guess their just for entertainment for the guys.

[der Scharfschüt]

^ Oh almost forgot MGS- Sniper Wolf, MGS2-Olga, MGS3- Eva

[halcyon23]

i dont mind girls being in video games

[der Scharfschüt]

heres another Fortune from MGS2

[Master Ninja Aldj]

Well...I don't think they are sexist b/c the games where girls aren't the main character are games that are really for boys....

[der Scharfschüt]

oh and Meryl from MGS

[Luzifer]

Well, girls are starting to step more into the main character role (metriod being the first major game to give the lead role to a girl, especially in the adventure genre). Other games have had women in more dominant roles, I remember Atelier Iris because it actually had the male main character as the physically weak mage/healer and the main female as the fighter.

I guess a lot of it depends on what your idea of a "strong female role" is... Is it different from being just a sword swinging warrior as men are portray or does it entail some sort of moral or spiritual propierty.

As an ending note, It is often said that the girls in video games are more beautiful than in real life but I fail to say many ugly guys in them as well.

[der Scharfschüt]

oh oh The Boss from MGS3, shes the mentor to Snake

[Shadow Phoenix]

Really i don't complain cause most girl's in the video game's look better than the one's in real life <My Opinion>

[Buruku]

Really i don't complain cause most girl's in the video game's look better than the one's in real life <My Opinion>
oh I know, real flesh and blood is SO over-rated. Long live polygon cleavage!!

[samuriagent]

oh I know, real flesh and blood is SO over-rated. Long live polygon cleavage!!

YEAH-YA!! anywho's some games are better suited to have guys as the main role, and some are better to have girls as the main role

[Link-Kun]

ok so medtroied is a girl so what.. i mean come on half of the people dont know shes a girl.. and she only takes off her helmet once.. and you never see her shes in a suit.. and zelda doesnt do anything i mean i like her why doesnt she have a better part then being kidnapped. i think that the makers of vidoe games dont think girls are that great.. shame on them.
That is so very true. Zelda should get a better role in most of those games. But in the new one Zelda game you can't really say she's getting Kidnapped. Don't forget about the Resident Evil Series, you get to play as a girl. For example in RE4 for the PS2 you get to play as Ada.

[Thousand Eyes]

Hmm, actually, I can't really say that girls don't have an important role in video games. The Tenchu series (my favourite video game series) for example has Ayame the ninja who appears in all of the games. She also has a very essential role as the 'supposed' sole survivor for a while, thus having a title called "Fatal Shadows" which has her in the lead role as the main character along with another female character named Rin. That's the one special occasion I see in the series with two playable female characters being the only ones available.

[DarkSakuraEmpress]

Actually I know quiet a few games where girls are either very important or the main character.

[Cantelope]

Hey, Lara Crof-- nevermind.

[The_SolarGod]

i like girls as the lead character in a video game... because it is unusual... hehe

[-Batman-]

Ohh cut me a break.
Like the men in video games aren't made flawless boy toys for the female-gamers.
Example?

Lets take...Sephiroth! HE seems to be popular with the ladies!
Big sword
Long platnium hair
Tight black leather.
Tall
Dark
Brooding
Mysterious
I think he was wearing Eyeshadow in Advent Children and kingdom hearts.

Now...Do they make sephiroth look like this to please...the guys?
Think about it for a few seconds.
...

...

...
Did you think of the answer? No?! THE ANSWER IS NO! Same thing goes for cloud. Hell. If it were up to me, sephiroth could look like THIS for all I care.

http://www.animeforum.com/uploads/Mongler1.jpg

Heck, I would prefer it. Imagine fighting this man at the end of 70 hours of hard work while dramatic latin chant music is playing in the background. It would be hilarious. However, lets just say he did EVERYTHING like sephiroth. Spoke like him, weilded the same sword, had the same attitude. So, would you Female FF7 fans accept Mongliroth? Would you still write Cloud X Sephiroth fan-fiction? Would you buy his plush toys? His wallscrolls? Would you search the internet for wallpapers of him? Would you make linkin park AMV's that just show him topless at the end of FF7 over and over throughout the video and throw in clips of sephiroth killing Aerith while thinking to yourself "YES! Shes DEAD, she was trying to steal my man -__-"
No. Why? Because he's not as "Pretty" as sephiroth.

It would be the same for guys if all of the DOA girls were 200 pounds overweight with more grease on their faces than a pizza.

Also, there are plenty of WOMAN WORKING FOR GAME COMPANIES! *Gasp* If they don't mind DESIGNING the actually female model, why should you care? No one is even forcing you to play the game.

Oh, and if you're a girl reading this, and you find this offensive. Guess what, I don't care, you know it's true. BOTH genders are EQUALLY shallow.

P.S. Long live Mongliroth.

[Piper]

oh I know, real flesh and blood is SO over-rated. Long live polygon cleavage!!
Hahahahaha. Exactly what I was thinking! =P

[Nighthawk]

P.S. Long live Mongliroth.
You know, you might just have started a global mongliroth hysteria. At this moment maybe 1000s of fangirls are working on a FF7 mod to include him in the game. With the Icy Hot Stuntaz as the turks and Richard "Rock the 60s" Simmons as Cloud :p

[Hideki-_-Motosuwa]

i dont think that they are being sexist maby they are a little. but then thats how the wrold is today.. they have men more in games becasue guys are the ones that play video games. becuase guys dont wana to play games that have only girls. and stuff. im sorry that is how it is..

[Agomae]

HEY I WAS Wondering do you think that the creators are being sexest... i mean i dont see a lot of girls in video games and stuff.. and when they are they dont do anything good or important. so tell me what you think.. Yes, Sexest..SEXEST!!!!! but!! if you would put some thought into your post..mabye you would see the light..like...okay..A girl in GTA? no,that would totally kill the series...and what are you takeing about? theres plenty of girls in games...Final Fantasy....whoe..!!! Shadow hearts 2.....haha!!!

[aimforthetop]

some are sexist BECAUSE there are girls in it and some they just put girls in it

[lex__luthor]

I think they arent but it doesnt matter just get the games you want.

[Princess Hoshi]

Yeah, I have noticed that people are being sexiest with videogames and girls. People typically think videogames are for guys. HEY, girls can play videogames too!!!

[Aurion the Fallen]

Look at things this way, we have physically perfect men and women in video games. There are both guys, to attempt to attract women into playing the games, and girls to attract men into playing. Pure and simple. Is it less noticeable, hell yeah. Why? Because people focus on the negatives of sexism or racism or any other form of prejudice first. Negativity is something which stands out milestones ahead of positivity. I can name a few female characters who AREN'T sex symbols, like Jill Valentine, Rebecca Chambers, Samus Aran (don't tell me you don't know she's a girl...BAD excuse), any MMORPG has the option of being a female character that isn't just a sex symbol, the girls from Tales of Symphonia, any of the FF girls (for the most part). I think I'm making a fairly strong point here. Just my own opinion.

[Naruto-Girl]

Yeah, I have noticed that people are being sexiest with videogames and girls. People typically think videogames are for guys. HEY, girls can play videogames too!!!yeah but maby more girls would play if there was girls in the game.

[Gorion1928]

HEY I WAS Wondering do you think that the creators are being sexest... i mean i dont see a lot of girls in video games and stuff.. and when they are they dont do anything good or important. so tell me what you think..
*cough*Metroid*cough*

[Plaidbutterfly]

There are plenty of games with female leads - I cannot however think of any games with well-proportioned females that are not double-double-triple-d-cups with itty bitty waits.

I don't look at Lara Croft's polygon'd bust and think "Dayum, that's HAWT!" or "I'd like some of those someday!", but instead something along the lines of "Boy, if those were real, she would be crying for breast reduction surgery" or "Can't the animators do better than THAT?". The problem is, pretty women sell better. Men like looking at pretty women, simple as that. Women, well, it depends on your preference - but I think 9/10ths of it is that women have been trained to prefer other women who fit the current ideal of "pretty".

I say it's about high time we tossed that out the window not just in video games but in EVERY aspect of modern culture. Tell me, when was the last time you saw a movie, especially an action-adventure movie, where the heroine had a little pudge around her belly, had plain brown hair, and looked like some absolutely normal somebody you could meet on the street? There is ENORMOUS potential for these - audiences connect better with someone that they can see as just like them, utterly normal, going on an adventure. (See Bilbo Baggins and Frodo Baggins!! Nowhere does Tolkein go off on a tear about how drop-dead gorgeous they are. They're just two ordinary people whisked off on a fantastic adventure.)

In some respect I think entertainment industries are shooting themselves in the foot with this. The idea of what's beautiful changes over time. If your idea for your hero is simply that she is beautiful, that will sell quickly but when that idea of beauty changes not keep selling; it will not become "classic". If your idea for your hero is that she is an ordinary person, being whisked away, something that your audiences can truly identify with quickly and easily, then that's an insta-classic.

Video games better realise this, I think, before female gamers become so disgusted with going looking at cardboard characters made only for cup sizes and jiggle that they throw themselves entirely into playing Tetris.

[Ichiro Matsuchani]

It's just marketing. Those desperate guys that can't get any of the hot girls in real life would love games like DOA extreme volleyball, with its emphasis on hot women.

[International 4-8818]

Well it is obvious that cebious and draken are related. Also girls in video games are good. Imagine if it were just men? Yeah also girls in video games make it more enjoyable. Sounds wrong but you understand.