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DeathBlade/13.666
03-08-2005, 07:14 PM
Ah, yes, mana. The fatal flaw in magic. You don't draw enough mana, you lose. The only color that does not have that flaw is green, because they have lots of cards that allow you to search for land cards. Otherwis, just sort out your deck after each game so that your land cards won't be on one pile.yea, true but some of my decks aren't green or don't have green in them

ESCAFLOWNE
03-08-2005, 08:25 PM
I saw my friend play this game he loves it cuz he is such a magic the gathering fan.

dragoninja
03-09-2005, 12:20 AM
ah yes .. the joys of building a new deck

Mana is the key to magic and everything evolves around it. The easiest way arround the "mana screwed" or "nuthin but mana" problems is to use cards that let you controle your mana how you want, and need it.


We all know what elves are good for ... mana. Try and find cards that lower the cost of your spells, cards (creatures) that give you mana, and cards that double your mana and change the color of mana.


You might even want to have cards that controle the way you pay for spells. Dual lands are also good mana boosters. Then just double the mana you get from land. Example: Add red, black to your mana pool with a dual land, then use a doubling cube to double that amount.


I could sit here all night and list all the "add more to your mana pool" cards but here are just a few of my favorits. These are just spacific cards though, other cards go great with these to make some crazy mana flow.

Now as was mentiond before, most mana comes from green but there are ways arround this. Dark Ritual is baned but its good for casual play. Try and use cards that change the colors of spells. Joiner Adept is a good example.


http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/fd/doubling_cube.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=FifthDawn&name=doubling_cube#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/mirrodin/gilded_lotus.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=Mirrodin&name=gilded_lotus#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/chk/heartbeat_of_spring.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=ChampionsofKamigawa&name=heartbeat_of_spring#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/judgment/miraris_wake.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=Judgment&name=mirari[s_wake#)

http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/mirrodin/extraplanar_lens.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=Mirrodin&name=extraplanar_lens#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/uz/gaeas_cradle.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=UrzasSaga&name=gaea[s_cradle#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/bok/sakiko_mother_of_summer.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=BetrayersofKamigawa&name=sakiko,_mother_of_summer#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/uz/serras_sanctum.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=UrzasSaga&name=serra[s_sanctum#)

http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/scourge/upwelling.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=Scourge&name=upwelling#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/tempest/emerald_medallion.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=Tempest&name=emerald_medallion#)

DeathBlade/13.666
03-09-2005, 09:56 AM
ok thanks very much, but can you pm the whole list to me?

red storm
03-10-2005, 02:56 AM
Ok, I've decided to make a red/blue deck. What cards would you advice? The red part is mainly focused on dealing lots of direct damage.

I was thinking, besides the counters, to ad some card drawing cards.

DeathBlade/13.666
03-10-2005, 09:55 AM
well cards that deal X amount of damage are pretty good, and the counters and interrupts would be a good idea to have

Magic gamer
03-10-2005, 10:12 AM
ah yes .. the joys of building a new deck

Mana is the key to magic and everything evolves around it. The easiest way arround the "mana screwed" or "nuthin but mana" problems is to use cards that let you controle your mana how you want, and need it.


We all know what elves are good for ... mana. Try and find cards that lower the cost of your spells, cards (creatures) that give you mana, and cards that double your mana and change the color of mana.


You might even want to have cards that controle the way you pay for spells. Dual lands are also good mana boosters. Then just double the mana you get from land. Example: Add red, black to your mana pool with a dual land, then use a doubling cube to double that amount.


I could sit here all night and list all the "add more to your mana pool" cards but here are just a few of my favorits. These are just spacific cards though, other cards go great with these to make some crazy mana flow.

Now as was mentiond before, most mana comes from green but there are ways arround this. Dark Ritual is baned but its good for casual play. Try and use cards that change the colors of spells. Joiner Adept is a good example.


http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/fd/doubling_cube.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=FifthDawn&name=doubling_cube#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/mirrodin/gilded_lotus.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=Mirrodin&name=gilded_lotus#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/chk/heartbeat_of_spring.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=ChampionsofKamigawa&name=heartbeat_of_spring#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/judgment/miraris_wake.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=Judgment&name=mirari[s_wake#)

http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/mirrodin/extraplanar_lens.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=Mirrodin&name=extraplanar_lens#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/uz/gaeas_cradle.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=UrzasSaga&name=gaea[s_cradle#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/bok/sakiko_mother_of_summer.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=BetrayersofKamigawa&name=sakiko,_mother_of_summer#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/uz/serras_sanctum.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=UrzasSaga&name=serra[s_sanctum#)

http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/scourge/upwelling.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=Scourge&name=upwelling#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/tempest/emerald_medallion.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=Tempest&name=emerald_medallion#)those look like very good cards to have mana in your mana pool

Isunamaru
03-10-2005, 08:15 PM
umm... if your playing a black deck you could include 'cabal coffers'....

Magic gamer
03-11-2005, 07:55 AM
you dont have to play with cards to be a nerdthat is very true man

dragoninja
03-11-2005, 04:34 PM
I was thinking, besides the counters, to ad some card drawing cards.

thats cool ... heres some you might like

[/url]http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/apocalypse/fire__ice.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=Unlimited&name=ancestral_recall#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/judgment/grip_of_amnesia.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=UrzasLegacy&name=frantic_search#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/apocalypse/squees_revenge.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=Apocalypse&name=squee[s_revenge#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/onslaught/words_of_war.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=Onslaught&name=words_of_war#)[url="http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=Unlimited&name=ancestral_recall#"] (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=UrzasLegacy&name=frantic_search#)

http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/prophecy/heightened_awareness.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=Prophecy&name=heightened_awareness#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/chk/honden_of_seeing_winds.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=ChampionsofKamigawa&name=honden_of_seeing_winds#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/apocalypse/illuminate.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=Apocalypse&name=illuminate#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/visions/prosperity.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=Visions&name=prosperity#)

Isunamaru
03-11-2005, 07:36 PM
umm...howling mine is better than Heightened awareness....it allows you to draw extra cards yet it doesn't have the drawback, it costs less and it's also an artifact which makes it a lot more versatile...

red storm
03-12-2005, 04:19 AM
Aah, thanks for the sugestions, my new deck is finished! Splicing is still important, but I added a few cheap blue flying creatures to do direct damage, wich is also part of my deck strategy, but it also alows me to use my ninja's ninjutsu, making it 50% cheaper, and allowing me to draw a card! I also added a few veil of secrecy's, wich are both good counters (Target creature is inume for spells and ability's) and it makes them ublockable until the end of turn ^_^. The most mportant counter in my deck would be Kira, the great glass spinner.

http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/bok/kira_great_glass_spinner.jpghttp://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/bok/veil_of_secrecy.jpghttp://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/bok/ninja_of_the_deep_hours.jpg

Isunamaru
03-12-2005, 08:37 AM
hmm...if your adding ninja's try getting a 'Higure, the Still Wind' it can make ninja's unblockable for 2 and whenever it deals combat damage you can search your library for a ninja....

red storm
03-12-2005, 11:26 AM
Definetly going to add those to my deck. Now all I need to do is find them ^_^;

Isunamaru
03-12-2005, 11:28 AM
well you can find them in the blue theme deck "ninjitsu"....

red storm
03-12-2005, 11:55 AM
Yeah, wel, I'm not about to go and buy a complete theme deck just for one card. I'll see if I can trade it with someone. Otherwise, I'll have to buy it seperatly.

Isunamaru
03-12-2005, 12:20 PM
it also has some Minamo Sightbenders if your interested....

Fantasy fighter
03-12-2005, 12:34 PM
I loved playing this about 3 years ago. I wasted a fortune on those cards. How many have appeared since Legion?

red storm
03-12-2005, 12:37 PM
Hmm, no I think my veil of secrecy's are better, as they counter spells and ability's as wel.

Isunamaru
03-12-2005, 01:19 PM
oh yeah and theres also Tomorrow, Azami's Familiar in there....it helps ALOT...

Terminator
03-13-2005, 04:30 PM
What's your strongest card?

Isunamaru
03-13-2005, 04:32 PM
It depends....strength wise it'd prolly be Tooth And Nail....however for overall effectiveness it'd prolly be Umezewa's Jitte...

DeathBlade/13.666
03-14-2005, 10:04 AM
what worms do you have?

Isunamaru
03-26-2005, 09:24 PM
hmmm.....here's a copy of my red-green spirit deck

Hana Kami 4x
Kodama of Center Tree 2x
Kodama of South Tree 2x
Kami of the Hunt 4x
Soul of Magma 4x
Ore Gorger 2x
Kami of Fire's Roar 2x

Kodama's Reach 4x
Kodama's Might 4x
Unchecked Growth 4x
Unnatural Speed 4x
Strange Inversion 4x

Forest 12x
Mountain 8x

DeathBlade/13.666
03-27-2005, 01:28 PM
hmmm.....here's a copy of my red-green spirit deck

Hana Kami 4x
Kodama of Center Tree 2x
Kodama of South Tree 2x
Kami of the Hunt 4x
Soul of Magma 4x
Ore Gorger 2x
Kami of Fire's Roar 2x

Kodama's Reach 4x
Kodama's Might 4x
Unchecked Growth 4x
Unnatural Speed 4x
Strange Inversion 4x

Forest 12x
Mountain 8xvery nice, indeed...it sounds like a hard deck to beat.

Isunamaru
03-30-2005, 10:17 AM
hmm....i think need to replace the Unnatural Speed with Lava Spike and the Strange Inversion with Blind with Anger...

Hungry man
03-30-2005, 02:40 PM
hmm....i think need to replace the Unnatural Speed with Lava Spike and the Strange Inversion with Blind with Anger...i think that you should replace Unnatural Speed with Lava Spike because you will do more damage to the player and you can use the other arcanes with Splice onto Arcane to do other things to your opponent but i don't know about changing Strange Inversion with Blind with Anger bacause both of them can help you to win a match.

DeathBlade/13.666
03-30-2005, 05:31 PM
well here's my Red/Black deck

black... Red... Land...
Painwracker Oni Boil Mountains x10
Swallowing Plague Dromosaur Swamps x11
Dark Banishing Caldera Kavu
Phrexian Driver Shatter x2 Gold...
Dross Crocodile Keldon Mantle Terminate
Bile Urchin Viashino Bey
Call for Blood Shock Artifact...
Oni Possession Flare Belbe's Portal
Ostracize Lava Axe
Befoul Disintegrate
Pull Under Goblin Raider
Ravenous Vampire Viashino Sandscout
Corrupt Mire Kavu
Thief of Hope Frost Ogre
Ashen-Skin Zubera Raging Goblin
Lost Soul Sonic Burst
Vile Requiem Lightning Blast
Gibbering Kami Flame Rift
Scuttling Death Tremor
Kami of Lunacy Kindle

Isunamaru
03-31-2005, 10:06 AM
i think that you should replace Unnatural Speed with Lava Spike because you will do more damage to the player and you can use the other arcanes with Splice onto Arcane to do other things to your opponent but i don't know about changing Strange Inversion with Blind with Anger bacause both of them can help you to win a match.I know what ya mean.....i once managed a combo with Strange Inversion, Soul of Magma and a lot of other things.....it was really funny and i ended up with a 8/8 kami of the Hunt.....

DeathBlade/13.666
04-08-2005, 02:25 PM
what about a Dream Fighter with an Air Bladder? it seems to be a nice working combo that easily screws up someone

dragoninja
05-09-2005, 05:15 AM
sorry but iv been away for awhile

Spending most of my online time playing magic lol ... anyway, I have found that everyone likes to play with the same decks.

A speed deck with Umezawa's Jitte ...
Tooth and Nail with Plow Under ...
Red burn with land destruction ...

Seems like the game has become stale ... if you play to win or you play in tourny's then you probably know what im talking about. The game isnt fun anymore. You know what deck you opponent is playing by turn 2.

The most common decks are Jitte, Ice/Fire, Tooth, LD, or you might see a discard or counter deck but they're becoming less common.

I wish more people would play for fun instead of playing to win. I can understand though. Some make a living playing magic but when you play to win its not fun anymore.

Isunamaru
05-09-2005, 10:11 AM
sorry but iv been away for awhile

Spending most of my online time playing magic lol ... anyway, I have found that everyone likes to play with the same decks.

A speed deck with Umezawa's Jitte ...
Tooth and Nail with Plow Under ...
Red burn with land destruction ...

Seems like the game has become stale ... if you play to win or you play in tourny's then you probably know what im talking about. The game isnt fun anymore. You know what deck you opponent is playing by turn 2.

The most common decks are Jitte, Ice/Fire, Tooth, LD, or you might see a discard or counter deck but they're becoming less common.

I wish more people would play for fun instead of playing to win. I can understand though. Some make a living playing magic but when you play to win its not fun anymore.
Well, no one seems to have any really good combos, or any way to implement them effectively......such as a Voice of the Woods + 4 other elfs and Intruder Alarm.... i could probably make an effective deck, if i could find an defense early enough......when i played it tho i was killed before i could get the combo out......

DeathBlade/13.666
05-09-2005, 04:47 PM
Well, no one seems to have any really good combos, or any way to implement them effectivelywell Dream Fighter with Air Bladder it pretty good, it gives a 1/1 creature, with Phasing, Flying. so it really helps out with people that have really annoying flying creatures. and here's another good one. Ensnaring Bridge + Grafted Skullcap + Spellbook. first, it keeps cards with a power greater the the number of cards in your hand from attacking. then, it allows you to pick up two cards instead of one on your draw phase. and finally, the Spellbook allows you to have as many cards in your hand as you want. so you won't have to get rid of so really good cards in your hand if you're being mana-raped

Isunamaru
05-09-2005, 05:50 PM
Ensnaring Bridge + Grafted Scullcap is pretty usefull......i once saw a insane burn deck with that to nuetralize creature threats.....

Hungry man
05-10-2005, 09:32 AM
how can somebody beat a deck that has lots of different ways to win for instanse he has speed, power, and vey good stratages plus the only way u can beat him is if he doesnt get enought lands witch he only needs four to play almost everything he has in his deck

Isunamaru
05-10-2005, 09:48 AM
how can somebody beat a deck that has lots of different ways to win for instanse he has speed, power, and vey good stratages plus the only way u can beat him is if he doesnt get enought lands witch he only needs four to play almost everything he has in his deckLock him down so he can't do anything.....a combo i found one of my friends using was - Nature's Will, Lantern Kami and Hokori, Dust Drinker.....
Either that or get a fast defense.....such as General's Kabuto and Kaijin of Vanishing Touch......

Hungry man
05-10-2005, 10:05 AM
Lock him down so he can't do anything.....a combo i found one of my friends using was - Nature's Will, Lantern Kami and Hokori, Dust Drinker.....
Either that or get a fast defense.....such as General's Kabuto and Kaijin of Vanishing Touch......those are very good things that i have tried but he ends up killing the creatures the next turn anyways and when u kill his creatures he will just bring them back and u lose your creature that u blocked with and u are wide open for a direct attack the next turn and he will do alot of damage or kill you.

DeathBlade/13.666
05-10-2005, 04:38 PM
Ensnaring Bridge + Grafted Scullcap is pretty usefull......i once saw a insane burn deck with that to nuetralize creature threats.....yea, it's a pain to all my friendswhen i play'em, i have it in my articfact deck. it's so awsome, it can just sit there and screw'em over and they can't do crap.

dragoninja
05-10-2005, 06:14 PM
the thing you have to remember about magic is for every great deck there is another deck that can be made to beat it

it is imposible to have the "best deck" ...

People who play to win build fast decks that get real big real fast or they use a fast deck that screws you over like a fast burn with slith, fire/ice sword or jitte, and land destruction. A good defence for that would be a blue return/counter deck.

Isunamaru
05-10-2005, 06:18 PM
those are very good things that i have tried but he ends up killing the creatures the next turn anyways and when u kill his creatures he will just bring them back and u lose your creature that u blocked with and u are wide open for a direct attack the next turn and he will do alot of damage or kill you.Umm.....General's Kabuto states that when equipped the creature doesn't do damage, doesn't take damage and can't be the target of spells or abilities....



the thing you have to remember about magic is for every great deck there is another deck that can be made to beat it

it is imposible to have the "best deck" ...

People who play to win build fast decks that get real big real fast or they use a fast deck that screws you over like a fast burn with slith, fire/ice sword or jitte, and land destruction. A good defence for that would be a blue return/counter deck. hmm.....i made a pretty fun green deck that relied solely on 1/1's and 2/2's with lots of creature pumping spells like invigorate.....

dragoninja
05-11-2005, 05:43 PM
mmmmmm


http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/8e/temporal_adept.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=EighthEdition&name=temporal_adept#)

DeathBlade/13.666
05-11-2005, 06:59 PM
the thing you have to remember about magic is for every great deck there is another deck that can be made to beat it

it is imposible to have the "best deck" ...

People who play to win build fast decks that get real big real fast or they use a fast deck that screws you over like a fast burn with slith, fire/ice sword or jitte, and land destruction. A good defence for that would be a blue return/counter deck.

i know, what'd you think the deck was built for in the first place. beating my best friends white deck. really, it's an awsome deck that royally screws you over if you're not having a perfect game.

Isunamaru
05-11-2005, 07:21 PM
hmm.....one of my friends made an annoying Ornate Kanzachi deck a few days ago.....it somehow manages to stall until it kills you.......

Nineteenth
05-11-2005, 09:06 PM
Annoying decks , my current decks are considered annoying for only two reasons.
The first one is what I like to call , an "Ultimate Burn" using Death Pits of Rath, Clash of Realities and some of the cheapest/strongest direct damage/ damage all cards I can fit with more Colorless costs rather than the colored costs.

To really round it out, toss in a tempting worm. Really risky but it's a great"dump it and hope your opponent brings it back" card.

DeathBlade/13.666
05-12-2005, 09:53 AM
yea, his deck is really annoying, he's got scent of jasmine, which gives him 2 life for every card in his hand, and circle of protection (all colors-though doesn't have anything for artifacts), and a couple of runes of proection. plus a bunch of creatures that either screw you over with flying, first strike, or other stuff, or are a pain in the butt to get rid off.

Isunamaru
05-12-2005, 05:59 PM
hmm.....hah, that's nothing....my friends ornate Kanzachi Deck uses stuff like rootrunner so you can't manage to get any more that 4 lands out at any one time.....

DeathBlade/13.666
05-12-2005, 07:07 PM
good thing is i can bring tons of crap out with just four mana. hell i can do it with just 2 mana

Vash_2007
05-12-2005, 09:00 PM
i love magic currently i have over 5 decks
reanimation
upheaval
elf
merfolk
mixed plains and forest deck
and some others but i love magic ive been playing for about 5 years i have over 300 rares. so talk ot me about magic i love it.

DeathBlade/13.666
05-13-2005, 10:34 AM
i love magic currently i have over 5 decks
reanimation
upheaval
elf
merfolk
mixed plains and forest deck
and some others but i love magic ive been playing for about 5 years i have over 300 rares. so talk ot me about magic i love it.hmm...i wouldn't mind seeing the reanimation deck.

Nobunaga
05-13-2005, 10:15 PM
I dont now how to play Magic, but i wish learn and play, please, put sites with rules.

DeathBlade/13.666
05-14-2005, 12:28 PM
I dont now how to play Magic, but i wish learn and play, please, put sites with rules.go to http://www.magicthegathering.com then go down till you see a box with a box of cards (box set i believe) that mentions something about the rules on the right if it (still in the box) and click on the hyperlinks.

Blood Angel
05-14-2005, 12:33 PM
i have an undefeated Swamp deck nobody i have ever faced beat me mwuhahaha....im not gonna list my whole deck iim not that into MTG

Lysander Cyric Korvein
05-14-2005, 03:15 PM
my white deck is life giving, artifact destroying, and proctection all in one. only a complete artifact deck or a red and black deck can beat it. in my white i have all the circles of protection and two runes of protection. my fave cards are Confessor(which i gain one life every time any player discards a card from their hand), Venerable Monk(i gain 2 life when it comes into play), Reliquary Monk(when sent to the graveyard from play, it destroys target artifact or enchantment), Rhystic Circle(does the exact same thing as all the circles of protection). But my best card is Scent of Jasmine(i gain 2 life for every white card in my hand, which ppl really hate cause my entire deck is white).

DeathBlade/13.666
05-14-2005, 05:59 PM
my white deck is life giving, artifact destroying, and proctection all in one. only a complete artifact deck or a red and black deck can beat it. in my white i have all the circles of protection and two runes of protection. my fave cards are Confessor(which i gain one life every time any player discards a card from their hand), Venerable Monk(i gain 2 life when it comes into play), Reliquary Monk(when sent to the graveyard from play, it destroys target artifact or enchantment), Rhystic Circle(does the exact same thing as all the circles of protection). But my best card is Scent of Jasmine(i gain 2 life for every white card in my hand, which ppl really hate cause my entire deck is white).see this is the idiot i was talking about, the one with the oversized white deck that gets really annoying, and was the reason i built my artifact deck.

dragoninja
05-14-2005, 07:36 PM
see this is the idiot i was talking about, the one with the oversized white deck that gets really annoying, and was the reason i built my artifact deck.
lol ... sounds like you know him

I built a fun deck the other day. Wont list the whole thing but iv won by turn 4 with it. Its only weakness is black but im still working on it.

Serra Avatar x2
Ageless Entity x4
Beacon of Immortality x2
Surestrike Trident x4
Heros' Reunion x2
Terashi's Grasp x4
Awe Strike x2

the rest is mostly land search and drawing cards when i gain life

Isunamaru
05-17-2005, 09:32 AM
hmm......
A random combo i just thought of....
Web of War + Deranged Hermit.....

DeathBlade/13.666
05-17-2005, 12:29 PM
lol ... sounds like you know him

I built a fun deck the other day. Wont list the whole thing but iv won by turn 4 with it. Its only weakness is black but im still working on it.

Serra Avatar x2
Ageless Entity x4
Beacon of Immortality x2
Surestrike Trident x4
Heros' Reunion x2
Terashi's Grasp x4
Awe Strike x2

the rest is mostly land search and drawing cards when i gain life
what color is it? i may able to find some good stuff to help you get rid off that weakness

cat lord3
05-17-2005, 01:30 PM
i dont play magic the gathering, but i have seen people who do

dragoninja
05-17-2005, 07:35 PM
what color is it? i may able to find some good stuff to help you get rid off that weakness
green/white

I have a Story Circle in there but when you have a 144/144 Ageless Entity and he uses Terror whats the point. I need some protection in there ...

DeathBlade/13.666
05-17-2005, 08:32 PM
green/white

I have a Story Circle in there but when you have a 144/144 Ageless Entity and he uses Terror whats the point. I need some protection in there ...green and white with a black weakness...hmm....2x Circles Of Protection: Black and some Bayou Dragonfly's

Isunamaru
05-18-2005, 09:24 AM
see this is the idiot i was talking about, the one with the oversized white deck that gets really annoying, and was the reason i built my artifact deck.annoying....ha...that's nothing.....one of my friends made a red chaos deck that uses Web of War, Confusion in the Ranks, and Tide of War.....i really don't know the point but it's a pain to try playing a multiplayer against it.....

DeathBlade/13.666
05-18-2005, 10:03 AM
annoying....ha...that's nothing.....one of my friends made a red chaos deck that uses Web of War, Confusion in the Ranks, and Tide of War.....i really don't know the point but it's a pain to try playing a multiplayer against it.....well both of our decks have 250+ cards, and yesterday we went all the way down to the last card *last three cards for me because i had Feldon's Cane out, and i keep paying 8 mana, tapping, and sacrificing my Elixir of Vitality, tapping my Braidwood Cup (i which give me 9 life total), and paying 1 Mountain and sacrificing my Pyrite Spellbomb (dealing him 2 damage), then after it all i tapped my Feldon's Cane and reshuffled my graveyard into my library*
and we couldn't do anything because i had my 2 Ensnaring Bridges (plus my Grafted Skullcap, that's why i had to use my Feldon's Cane so much) and my Portcullis (which kinda sucked, cause after a while i pulled my Phyrexian Colossus, and had to set it aside) and i, useing my Feldon's Cane, Braidwood Cup, Elixir of Vitality, Pyrite Spellbomb, and AEther Spellbomb, i brought myself to a personal, and school record of life points (145), ended up making Aragorn, Son of Arathron, give up and draw his last card and lose.

Isunamaru
05-18-2005, 08:10 PM
well both of our decks have 250+ cards, and yesterday we went all the way down to the last card *last three cards for me because i had Feldon's Cane out, and i keep paying 8 mana, tapping, and sacrificing my Elixir of Vitality, tapping my Braidwood Cup (i which give me 9 life total), and paying 1 Mountain and sacrificing my Pyrite Spellbomb (dealing him 2 damage), then after it all i tapped my Feldon's Cane and reshuffled my graveyard into my library*
and we couldn't do anything because i had my 2 Ensnaring Bridges (plus my Grafted Skullcap, that's why i had to use my Feldon's Cane so much) and my Portcullis (which kinda sucked, cause after a while i pulled my Phyrexian Colossus, and had to set it aside) and i, useing my Feldon's Cane, Braidwood Cup, Elixir of Vitality, Pyrite Spellbomb, and AEther Spellbomb, i brought myself to a personal, and school record of life points (145), ended up making Aragorn, Son of Arathron, give up and draw his last card and lose. 145...that's all??....hmm....i remember managing somewhere around 300 with my elf deck.....hmm....Wellwisher's.......

DeathBlade/13.666
05-18-2005, 08:23 PM
145...that's all??....hmm....i remember managing somewhere around 300 with my elf deck.....hmm....Wellwisher's.......well this a a complete artifact deck. plusw i only have 2-3 life giving cards. an elf deck would probably have around 9-10

Isunamaru
05-19-2005, 03:05 PM
well this a a complete artifact deck. plusw i only have 2-3 life giving cards. an elf deck would probably have around 9-10 hmm....you've got a point there.....hmm.....Confusion in the Ranks + Deranged Hermit.....getting 5 creatures for 5.....

Takeshi
05-19-2005, 03:13 PM
i used to play, but i havent met anyone else to play against so i locke up my cards and put them in storage.
im in serious need of re-teaching.

DeathBlade/13.666
05-23-2005, 01:27 PM
hmm....you've got a point there.....hmm.....Confusion in the Ranks + Deranged Hermit.....getting 5 creatures for 5.....yea, and are those artifacts?

Isunamaru
05-24-2005, 12:37 PM
yea, and are those artifacts?no.....Confusion in the Ranks is a red enchantment and Deranged Hermit is an elf.......hmm.....Kiki-Jiki + Deranged Hermit.....4 2/2 squirrels per turn.....

DeathBlade/13.666
05-24-2005, 05:55 PM
no.....Confusion in the Ranks is a red enchantment and Deranged Hermit is an elf.......hmm.....Kiki-Jiki + Deranged Hermit.....4 2/2 squirrels per turn.....ahhh, you know, i'm starting to think of just tearing down my decks, putting my cards up, and just collect cards (new or old) and just be tradeing with ppl.
it's really getting old for me, but then again almost everything has.

Nineteenth
05-24-2005, 11:55 PM
my white deck is life giving, artifact destroying, and proctection all in one. only a complete artifact deck or a red and black deck can beat it. in my white i have all the circles of protection and two runes of protection. my fave cards are Confessor(which i gain one life every time any player discards a card from their hand), Venerable Monk(i gain 2 life when it comes into play), Reliquary Monk(when sent to the graveyard from play, it destroys target artifact or enchantment), Rhystic Circle(does the exact same thing as all the circles of protection). But my best card is Scent of Jasmine(i gain 2 life for every white card in my hand, which ppl really hate cause my entire deck is white).
I've seen something like that before.
I can't seem to recall the name of the card but it was along the lines of ..
3 Blue, 6 NonColored, Tap. Declare a color, all cards of that color are sent from the oposing player's hand to the grave.
Echoing Ruin? I can't remeber the dern names and I don't feel like looking through my cards to bother.

I am guessing the best threat to that deck would be a Tri-Color. The rather old Counterspell for only two blue, Flash Counter :1b , Ogre Marauder.
It really depends on the shuffle..

DeathBlade/13.666
05-25-2005, 03:14 PM
my white deck is life giving, artifact destroying, and proctection all in one. only a complete artifact deck or a red and black deck can beat it. in my white i have all the circles of protection and two runes of protection. my fave cards are Confessor(which i gain one life every time any player discards a card from their hand), Venerable Monk(i gain 2 life when it comes into play), Reliquary Monk(when sent to the graveyard from play, it destroys target artifact or enchantment), Rhystic Circle(does the exact same thing as all the circles of protection). But my best card is Scent of Jasmine(i gain 2 life for every white card in my hand, which ppl really hate cause my entire deck is white).yea, but you don't have a Samite Pilgrim XD but i could make a trade, if you're able to come over to my house during the summer.

dragoninja
05-25-2005, 03:45 PM
Some decks work better in multplayer than one on one.

The smaller you deck is the better. If your using all COP's and 2 Runes you should just use 3 or 4 Story Circle's. Also, if your using life gain think about Serra Avatar or Ageless Entity. Very powerfull. Life gain is easy. Heros' Reunion does the job or if your a risk taker Beacon of Immortality. Surestrike Tident. Game over. Armadillo Cloak works well. Well of Lost Dreams to draw cards. Maybe a couple Spellbooks. Leonin Abunas. hmm ... Moments Peace, Grasp, and land search* would be my personal choice. Oh yeah ... Awe Strike can be used on opponents and your Ageless or Serra .. Blessed Reversal if there using tokens ... again, weak against black


sorry, i was bored


maybe Eternal Witness for backup .. i dont know

http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/uz/serra_avatar.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=UrzasSaga&name=serra_avatar#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/darksteel/ageless_entity.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=Darksteel&name=ageless_entity#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/invasion/armadillo_cloak.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=Invasion&name=armadillo_cloak#)http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/darksteel/surestrike_trident.jpg (http://gatherer.wizards.com/gathererlookup.asp?set=Darksteel&name=surestrike_trident#)

Nineteenth
05-25-2005, 04:56 PM
Some decks work better in multplayer than one on one.

The smaller you deck is the better. If your using all COP's and 2 Runes you should just use 3 or 4 Story Circle's. Also, if your using life gain think about Serra Avatar or Ageless Entity. Very powerfull. Life gain is easy. Heros' Reunion does the job or if your a risk taker Beacon of Immortality. Surestrike Tident. Game over. Armadillo Cloak works well. Well of Lost Dreams to draw cards. Maybe a couple Spellbooks. Leonin Abunas. hmm ... Moments Peace, Grasp, and land search* would be my personal choice. Oh yeah ... Awe Strike can be used on opponents and your Ageless or Serra .. Blessed Reversal if there using tokens ... again, weak against black


sorry, i was bored


maybe Eternal Witness for backup .. i dont know


Aquire, search your opponent's libarary for an equip Artifact and put it into play under your control.Fist of the blood hand ( or the like.) target player takes four damage and cannot gain life that turn if they were to gain life. Another nifty card for a low price.
Then there are the rather annoying black cards than I REALLY love Kiku, Night's Flower and Death Pits of Rath. =D Alright, I admit. Ever since I got two of them , I've been so happy about using it. I can abuse one and save the other.

Argh. I really need to get my cards in hand.

Giglamesh
05-26-2005, 01:34 PM
heres my fav. deck

4x graftid skullcap
4x ensnaring bridge
4x Words of War
4x Insidious dreams
4x guildfeeder
2x Urzas Rage
4x Consume Spirt
4x Firebolts
4x Reiver Demon
3x Diabolic tutor
3x Demonic tutor

10x Mountains
10x Swamps


have fun trying to beat it:ninja:

crack dude
05-26-2005, 01:50 PM
Here is my deck that absolutely kicks major ***.

3x Kokusho, the Evening Star
3x Demonic Tutor
4x Death Cloud
4x Grave Pact
4x Megrim
2x Yukora, the Prizoner
2x Dragon Mage
2x Swallowing Plague
2x Vengeful Dead
4x Cranial Extraction
4x Through the Breach

Lands
12x Mountain
12x Swamp

If you can make this deck and try it out it fucking awsome.

Isunamaru
05-26-2005, 02:53 PM
hmm.....fun combo deck....

Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker 2x
Deranged Hermit 4x
Rootrunner 4x
Dripping-Tongue Zubera 4x
Intruder Alarm 4x
Floating-Dream Zubera 4x
Time of Need 4x
Howling Mine 4x
Ember-Fist Zubera 4x
Kodama's Reach 4x
Forest 11x
Island 5x
Mountain 6x

hmm.....it works well, though i do have some trouble getting Kiki-Jiki out......if i could fix that then it would work alot better....any suggestions???

DeathBlade/13.666
05-26-2005, 07:50 PM
hmm.....fun combo deck....

Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker 2x
Deranged Hermit 4x
Rootrunner 4x
Dripping-Tongue Zubera 4x
Intruder Alarm 4x
Floating-Dream Zubera 4x
Time of Need 4x
Howling Mine 4x
Ember-Fist Zubera 4x
Kodama's Reach 4x
Forest 11x
Island 5x
Mountain 6x

hmm.....it works well, though i do have some trouble getting Kiki-Jiki out......if i could fix that then it would work alot better....any suggestions???Solution #1) get two more Kiki-Jiki's so you'll have four (four's the limit)
Solution #2) find a card that allows you to bring a type, color, priced, or w/e you'd need to bring Kiki-Jiki out.

Amix
08-10-2005, 10:01 AM
I play the game, but I barely know how to play, it's too complicated for me. >o< i'm to stupid.

DeathBlade/13.666
09-22-2005, 10:26 AM
I play the game, but I barely know how to play, it's too complicated for me. >o< i'm to stupid.well you could find someone that knows how to play and has been playing for a long time, to teach you, or go to http://www.magicthegathering.com and look up everything you need to know....

Lysander Cyric Korvein
09-22-2005, 05:14 PM
hey its addictive like drugs!!! once you start playin it and you like it, you cant ever stop!! -craves for my decks- btw DB/13.666, i still cant find out when the next tournament is. i will send them another email soon

DeathBlade/13.666
09-25-2005, 11:52 AM
hey its addictive like drugs!!! once you start playin it and you like it, you cant ever stop!! -craves for my decks- btw DB/13.666, i still cant find out when the next tournament is. i will send them another email soontoo late, i already heard about a brand-new tourny. the first place prize is pretty damn good, check it out on the website!

Lysander Cyric Korvein
09-25-2005, 12:51 PM
i already did. $200,000 grand prize. plus they havin a Grand Prix tourny!!! its in LA though ;.;

DeathBlade/13.666
09-25-2005, 01:25 PM
not the one i'm talkin' about.

i think the finals are in Hong Kong for it.

Isunamaru
10-06-2005, 08:48 PM
wow....i havent been here in a while.....and i have decided i hate Auras.....

red storm
10-07-2005, 02:29 AM
I've noticed a lot of people whining about the kamigawa set, most of them have artifact decks too.

Do any of you think Kamigawa sucks? I hardly think it sucks, since build an excelent direct-damage deck (I reached 8 damage for 3 mana once, booyeah!)

Terminator
10-07-2005, 11:19 AM
Do you know the best place to buy decks?

red storm
10-07-2005, 04:46 PM
De spelenwinkel, located in Holland, province Utrecht, City Amersfoort, look for a place called 'het drakenest' and you'll find it.

Nineteenth
10-09-2005, 11:50 AM
I've noticed a lot of people whining about the kamigawa set, most of them have artifact decks too.

Do any of you think Kamigawa sucks? I hardly think it sucks, since build an excelent direct-damage deck (I reached 8 damage for 3 mana once, booyeah!)

You can end the game in 12 mana if you have the right cards. Even then it contains enough mini-creatures who do more than enough damage for a low price.

Overall, I heart it since it works fast enough to take down "unstoppable" decks.

Lysander Cyric Korvein
10-10-2005, 10:48 AM
hey if you ppl really want to mess up an opponent, dont go for the big creatures, spells, instants, and artifacts. stick with the cheap, easy stuff. cheap artifacts are reusable while the expensive ones (mana cost not money) are not. my Nuts and Bolts deck is full of cheap little artifacts and artifact creatures that can be brought back from the grave. let the dumb kids play with the big expensive creatures cause it will take them more turns to get that certain creature out while you on the other hand will have an army of small creatures that can attack ur opponent at any give rate

red storm
10-10-2005, 12:20 PM
Agreed, weenie decks for the win!

Lysander Cyric Korvein
10-10-2005, 01:25 PM
finally someone who agrees with me on that basis!!!

red storm
10-12-2005, 06:29 AM
The funny thing is, I have yet to hear a valid argument why weenie decks are 'for wimps'

I think they're just pissed I kill them before they get their über creatures on the field.

angelwing
10-14-2005, 10:02 AM
i got an artifact destruction deck!! and counterspell hahahahhaa:p

DeathBlade/13.666
10-18-2005, 07:15 AM
I've noticed a lot of people whining about the kamigawa set, most of them have artifact decks too.

Do any of you think Kamigawa sucks? I hardly think it sucks, since build an excelent direct-damage deck (I reached 8 damage for 3 mana once, booyeah!)
the kamigawa block has some great cards, it's just you have to know how to use them...
that's why people say they suck, because they can't use them properly.

Lysander Cyric Korvein
10-18-2005, 04:39 PM
The funny thing is, I have yet to hear a valid argument why weenie decks are 'for wimps'

I think they're just pissed I kill them before they get their über creatures on the field.

weenie decks for wimps? LOL!! ha, like i stated in an earlier post, let the lil kids play with the big expensive monsters. at least they wont be able to bring it back into play after being destroyed!!! mwahahahahaha

good strategy. i found out that the quicker you can get your monsters onto the field to attack, the better. also, treat every opponent the same and always be on ur guard for something out of the ordinary. take DeathBlade/13.666, when i dueled him, he pulled out every trick he could think of and completely wiped me out! grr, i'll get him one day though

DeathBlade/13.666
10-19-2005, 05:59 PM
weenie decks for wimps? LOL!! ha, like i stated in an earlier post, let the lil kids play with the big expensive monsters. at least they wont be able to bring it back into play after being destroyed!!! mwahahahahaha

good strategy. i found out that the quicker you can get your monsters onto the field to attack, the better. also, treat every opponent the same and always be on ur guard for something out of the ordinary. take DeathBlade/13.666, when i dueled him, he pulled out every trick he could think of and completely wiped me out! grr, i'll get him one day thoughmwhahaha i pwned you so much!
though that statement "weenie decks are for wimps" is kinda stupid.... because a lot of these weenie decks are good to teaching and crap...
yes, geny, when we played together we played with novice decks...

Lysander Cyric Korvein
10-20-2005, 03:32 PM
mwhahaha i pwned you so much!
though that statement "weenie decks are for wimps" is kinda stupid.... because a lot of these weenie decks are good to teaching and crap...
yes, geny, when we played together we played with novice decks...
yes bro, i do know that. you still whooped me, though now i think about it, we're due for a another match sometime soon. and when i said i didnt know when the next tourny is, i meant for where both you and i live!!

DeathBlade/13.666
10-25-2005, 07:35 PM
yes bro, i do know that. you still whooped me, though now i think about it, we're due for a another match sometime soon. and when i said i didnt know when the next tourny is, i meant for where both you and i live!!;P it's because you suck! *j/k*
anyways....the next tourny around here is a long ways away, face it bro, we're lost & forgotten in AL

Taveren_Wolf
10-26-2005, 06:48 AM
i can beat a deck of a few indestructable cards from darksteel, i think it was, but it takes all the combos i have i my deck....

Lysander Cyric Korvein
10-26-2005, 03:46 PM
i think that if someone were to fairly rate the decks based on usefullness, the clear winner would probably be the Nuts and Bolts

_Sesshomaru_
10-27-2005, 08:41 PM
i have been playing magic:the gathering for about 6 years, i am pretty good:p

DeathBlade/13.666
10-28-2005, 07:11 AM
i think that if someone were to fairly rate the decks based on usefullness, the clear winner would probably be the Nuts and Boltsnah...i can beat you on that what my latest deck

Lysander Cyric Korvein
10-28-2005, 07:38 PM
nah...i can beat you on that what my latest deck
there aint nothin in ur decks, bro, that i dont know about. did you forget? i've played with/against almost all of ur decks. i know them!! mwahahahaha

evuljenius
10-29-2005, 05:57 PM
I'm a casual player. I've never been in a tournement. I got about 5 friends, also casual players. I have never built a tourny winning deck.

Darrmyth
10-29-2005, 06:49 PM
Woot MAgic The Gathering All The Way. ihave like 50 decks but i only play at home and school. i have never been in a tournement but i would hammer if i did

Lysander Cyric Korvein
10-29-2005, 07:17 PM
getting into a tourny would be such an honor to me and my friends! it would show that we worked alot just to get there! remember, its not the prizes at the end you should worry about, its playing just for the fun of it!! casual players should enter tournys from time to time and play with some different strategies, but hey, if you like playing with the same strategy and you find that it works for ya, have at them then!!!

DeathBlade/13.666
11-04-2005, 07:16 AM
there aint nothin in ur decks, bro, that i dont know about. did you forget? i've played with/against almost all of ur decks. i know them!! mwahahahahanot my 3 latest ones.....plus my burn deck now has creatures, so nyah!

Lysander Cyric Korvein
11-04-2005, 03:58 PM
not my 3 latest ones.....plus my burn deck now has creatures, so nyah!
damn! thats gonna change everything the next time we duel

Blue-dragoon
11-04-2005, 04:46 PM
What is this place

Blue-dragoon
11-04-2005, 04:46 PM
This is sooooo confusing

Lysander Cyric Korvein
11-11-2005, 09:34 PM
Woot MAgic The Gathering All The Way. ihave like 50 decks but i only play at home and school. i have never been in a tournement but i would hammer if i did
what kind of decks do you have?

Life & Death
11-12-2005, 09:38 PM
That game is soooo old
im over it

DeathBlade/13.666
11-13-2005, 04:29 PM
damn! thats gonna change everything the next time we dueland that's not even counting my Black deck, and my Blue and Black deck....;P your screwed next time, boy

Lysander Cyric Korvein
11-13-2005, 08:57 PM
and that's not even counting my Black deck, and my Blue and Black deck....;P your screwed next time, boy
we shall see dear brother. i now have an always-changing-strategy! you never know what i might do or pull

DeathBlade/13.666
11-14-2005, 04:22 PM
we shall see dear brother. i now have an always-changing-strategy! you never know what i might do or pullsuree....you're gonna try to do a complete random strat. impossible unless A) you have a way you want to win (a.k.a. plan) or B) you make it up as you go along, also the strat. of reg. players...

LegendaryAngelWings
11-16-2005, 05:38 PM
I used to play it all the time. I got a bit mad playing it online since people took forever to choose their next mood. I have cable and I guess these people had slower connections or something. Though I won a lot and moderators invited me to games and I beaten quite a few of them.

Lysander Cyric Korvein
11-16-2005, 07:04 PM
thats good AngelWings. and besides, whats the site for playing MTG online? i would like to go there

LegendaryAngelWings
11-16-2005, 08:11 PM
http://www.wizards.com/ Here it is. Also has a lot of other stuff you can play, but you have to download it.

Sarashoumaru
11-16-2005, 08:30 PM
MTG rules. i have been playing a really long time

Sarashoumaru
11-16-2005, 08:39 PM
can someone help me out i just started

Lysander Cyric Korvein
11-20-2005, 04:37 PM
suree....you're gonna try to do a complete random strat. impossible unless A) you have a way you want to win (a.k.a. plan) or B) you make it up as you go along, also the strat. of reg. players...
try plan C) combination of both plan A and B. oh and btw, i've updated my Nuts and Bolts deck with some new cards from a Core Set booster pack! now ur mine!! btw, im also trying to talk my parents into letting me go on the picknik with Amanda right after Thanksgiving. try to join us if you can bro and bring ur best decks with you and only ur best!!

iernt8
11-20-2005, 07:19 PM
magic is a very cool card game i started about 6 months ago and now im winning big tournaments any1 need help just pm me

Lysander Cyric Korvein
12-30-2005, 04:35 PM
heh, now that i have updated all five of my decks, its gonna be real hard for anyone to beat me. especially my Special Forces deck.

DeathBlade/13.666
12-31-2005, 12:12 PM
You're still behind budroe!All of my decks are now tourny reg., except for my Ravnica one. But it'll beat you down easily as well.

Thanatos
01-01-2006, 04:42 PM
I now have 11 decks I switch between constantly.

1. Rat Deck ((Best deck))
2. Snake Deck ((Second best))
3. Zombie Deck
4. Goblin Deck
5. Blue and Artifact Deck
6. Green Deck
7. White Deck

Ravnica Premade Decks

8. Golgari Deathcreep ((Black and Green))
9. Selesnya United ((Green and White))
10. Charge of the Boros ((Red and White))
11. Dimir Intrigues((Blue and Black))

All of these decks include some artifacts in them except the goblin and zombie decks.

Lysander Cyric Korvein
01-02-2006, 11:54 AM
You're still behind budroe!All of my decks are now tourny reg., except for my Ravnica one. But it'll beat you down easily as well.
tourny reg. size maybe. please bro, with some of the cards i put into all five of my decks, especially my Nuts and Bolts and Special Forces decks, even a tourny pro would have difficulty beating it. i've stacked my deck with small but worthy cards. keep on playing with the big monsters bro. the smaller ones will always win!

DeathBlade/13.666
01-02-2006, 12:56 PM
tourny reg. size maybe. please bro, with some of the cards i put into all five of my decks, especially my Nuts and Bolts and Special Forces decks, even a tourny pro would have difficulty beating it. i've stacked my deck with small but worthy cards. keep on playing with the big monsters bro. the smaller ones will always win!You'll still lose to me on a good or mediocure day.

Lysander Cyric Korvein
01-02-2006, 01:05 PM
please! my Whispersilk Cloak could have any of my monsters beat you

DeathBlade/13.666
01-02-2006, 02:00 PM
please! my Whispersilk Cloak could have any of my monsters beat youNo. All I need is a Grid Monitor. Or Bring out a Murderous Spoils.

Lysander Cyric Korvein
01-02-2006, 02:35 PM
i got muderous spoils. but what does Grid Monitor do?

DeathBlade/13.666
01-02-2006, 03:39 PM
i got muderous spoils. but what does Grid Monitor do?Nullifies all effects/abilities with the word "Creature" in them.

Lysander Cyric Korvein
01-02-2006, 09:39 PM
but that doesnt include any creature wearing a Whispersilk Cloak. those two cards alone nullify each other. then our battle would become a draw. there is only one way to beat my Special Forces deck bro and u have that card

Captain_Kinder
01-03-2006, 04:30 PM
people who say magic is for nerds are themselves, they are on a anime site after all ; )
right now im playing a Blue and Black Dimir House Deck from the Ravinaca expansion! fun fun fun

dragoninja
01-08-2006, 08:54 PM
Do you know the best place to buy decks?
There are many places to buy decks online. I wont list them all but you can google "magic the gathering" and get a crap load of sites.

Also, since MTG is world-wide you can find places online that sell cards in your area. If im not mistaken, Wizards of the Coast ships products all over the world.

..... or you can find the old Mirrodin and 8th Edition at Wal-Mart :laugh:

Lysander Cyric Korvein
01-08-2006, 09:12 PM
There are many places to buy decks online. I wont list them all but you can google "magic the gathering" and get a crap load of sites.

Also, since MTG is world-wide you can find places online that sell cards in your area. If im not mistaken, Wizards of the Coast ships products all over the world.

..... or you can find the old Mirrodin and 8th Edition at Wal-Mart :laugh:
i dunno where you live, dragoninja, but you can also purchase other decks besides the old Mirrodin and 8th Edition. you can also purchase the new Ravnica and Core Set

dragoninja
01-09-2006, 12:10 AM
i dunno where you live, dragoninja, but you can also purchase other decks besides the old Mirrodin and 8th Edition. you can also purchase the new Ravnica and Core Set
Yeah ... there are card shops the sell every every deck ever made but the closest one to me is about 6 hours away. I stoped buying real decks about a year ago. If im buying cards its off the net for the online game. (didgital cards)

Lysander Cyric Korvein
01-09-2006, 06:21 AM
never played the online version before. i always get my cards at either GameStop or Wal Mart. anyways, my Special Forces deck has a few cards in it that would really piss any tourny player off real bad! -evil grin- especially Stalking Stones

Captain_Kinder
01-09-2006, 03:22 PM
wow this is about the longest thread i've ever seen. and where's the Ravinaca love? It's, in my opinion, probably the best set in a long time, and only like one other person has mentioned it? its great?

dragoninja
01-09-2006, 08:26 PM
wow this is about the longest thread i've ever seen. and where's the Ravinaca love? It's, in my opinion, probably the best set in a long time, and only like one other person has mentioned it? its great?
Ravinaca is a great expansion but im old school. Im not realy drawn to the new "super powerful kill you with one card" idea. Seems like the game used to be better when you had to sit for hours thinking of how your favorite deck would work.

DeathBlade/13.666
01-09-2006, 08:55 PM
Ravinaca is a great expansion but im old school. Im not realy drawn to the new "super powerful kill you with one card" idea. Seems like the game used to be better when you had to sit for hours thinking of how your favorite deck would work.What's with the "Super powerful card that kills you in one turn" bull crap I keep hearing about???
First of all, Ravnica's pretty much like the old style stuff. There's no uber card. There's some really good ones, that take a while to bring out, but that's it. Plus The old school stuff has just as powerful cards as Ravnica.

dragoninja
01-09-2006, 09:00 PM
True. There are some great older cards out there but whats the point if you have a super creature with the ability that awsome enchantment had back in the day. Nowdays you can draw the right cards and end the game on turn 2! (yes .. i said turn 2) Takes the fun out of the game if you ask me.

Captain_Kinder
01-10-2006, 09:25 AM
turn 2??(righht) each guild has its own powerful cards, but if you can't protect those uber cards, then theyre not usefull at all. And your saying that old school magic doesn't have powerful cards? seems youve never heard of something called the power nine.

dragoninja
01-10-2006, 09:35 AM
turn 2??(righht) each guild has its own powerful cards, but if you can't protect those uber cards, then theyre not usefull at all. And your saying that old school magic doesn't have powerful cards? seems youve never heard of something called the power nine.
Im sure they will have a creature out soon will the ability of those nine cards put together. Look ... all im saying is someone had to think about puting those nine cards together to make it work. Nowdays you tap one creature and it gives you any mana you want.

I know of an elf combo where you tap it for two mana of any color, spend one mana to untap and tap again for two more mana ... it never ends. Draw the right cards and iv seen it kill on turn 2.

nega_knives
01-10-2006, 09:47 AM
I only got three deck a legendary dragon deck, a white deck, and a dark army deck.

Captain_Kinder
01-10-2006, 10:01 AM
the only place you can play the boring, infinite combos is with friends, as most have had major components of the combos banned. and your friends will tire soon if you keep playing that, and wont play you. besides, most creatures have a cost of more than one specific color nowadays. elfs arent as useful as they once were.

-EDIT_
also, just cause you THINK that there will be a card like that doesnt mean there will. Do you work at Wizards of the Coast? besides, people are dishing out tons for power nine cards. Im betting that WoC wouln't do that to the card market, as most a probably collectors themselves

Lysander Cyric Korvein
01-10-2006, 04:00 PM
look people, the only uber that i know of is BFM, which is a 99/99. and the mana cost is unbelieveable! besides, like DeathBlade/13.666 said, Ravnica is just like the old style stuff. i personally like Mirrodin and Darksteel cause i can pull off any kind of combo i can think of or that i have seen others do. and Kinder, who knows what kind of cards WoC will come out with next? and what is with this "power nine cards" you people keep mentioning? tell me please!

DeathBlade/13.666
01-10-2006, 05:00 PM
True. There are some great older cards out there but whats the point if you have a super creature with the ability that awsome enchantment had back in the day. Nowdays you can draw the right cards and end the game on turn 2! (yes .. i said turn 2) Takes the fun out of the game if you ask me. Impossible dude. Not unless you somehow get The Amulet of Glob. And that's an old school card.

Lysander Cyric Korvein
01-10-2006, 05:02 PM
bro, what is the Amulet of Glob? you forget, some of these cards i've never heard of

GFx
01-10-2006, 05:19 PM
I think he's talking about Amulet of Quoz:
Remove Amulet of Quoz from your deck before playing if you're not playing for ante. {T}, Sacrifice Amulet of Quoz: Target opponent may add the top card of his or her library to the ante. If he or she doesn't, you flip a coin. If you win the flip, that player loses the game. If you lose the flip, you lose the game. Play this ability only during your upkeep.


Anyhow there are many ways to end a game 1st turn. With the p9 you can do the channel/fireball combo. I know a lot since I stopped playing and I never played T1 ^^.

Here's a link to the power nine http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/arcana/432


Oh and your best friend not to lose on the 1st turn is Force of Will .

dragoninja
01-13-2006, 06:11 AM
Impossible dude. Not unless you somehow get The Amulet of Glob. And that's an old school card.
Sorry to disapoint you but I saw it with my own eyes because I was the dude he beat.

Yeah, there are many ways to end the game with one stupid card. Phage, Battle of Wits, Door the Nothingness ... just to name a few. But thats exactly what takes the fun away from whats supposed to be a game.

DeathBlade/13.666
01-13-2006, 04:51 PM
Sorry to disapoint you but I saw it with my own eyes because I was the dude he beat.

Yeah, there are many ways to end the game with one stupid card. Phage, Battle of Wits, Door the Nothingness ... just to name a few. But thats exactly what takes the fun away from whats supposed to be a game.Turn 2.... The every first turn you can draw...
Right...

GFx
01-13-2006, 05:32 PM
Sorry to disapoint you but I saw it with my own eyes because I was the dude he beat.

Yeah, there are many ways to end the game with one stupid card. Phage, Battle of Wits, Door the Nothingness ... just to name a few. But thats exactly what takes the fun away from whats supposed to be a game.

The 3 cards you just named are "fun" cards. They were not meant for tourny, though you can still play but you're probably gonna lose.
Why are they fun cards? well you have to find how to come up with a 240 card deck for Battle of Wits, how to make Phage unblockable and Door Well to get 2 mana of each color which is very tough . . . That's called breaking a card. And it makes MTG fun.

dragoninja
01-14-2006, 05:57 PM
Instant kill with one card is not fun for me. I have seen how those kinds of decks work and its not prety. I play online and there are many cards you cant play unless your playing an "open" only format. I had an Ageless deck for "extended" play but now its an "open" only format also.

Just gets to me when you have to classify what cards you can and can not use. Its like saying you cant use the queen in chess or telling Bruce Lee he cant fight in the heavy weight division. Am I the only person who feels this way?

Give me a good counter deck with direct damage. No creatures ... just a blue and red haze. :happy:
I know that some decks are made just for another one but I believe a good deck can withstand the best of them. Its not just the deck either, its how you use it.

Phantom Thief Darkwbt19
01-20-2006, 05:13 PM
yeah i like to play Magic The Gathering also

DeathBlade/13.666
01-21-2006, 03:45 PM
>.>; Well it is possible to die on Turn 2....I did. God Damn Mana Clash! >.<!