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Animedude5555
02-26-2014, 04:13 AM
Each character name text is a link to a picture of that character.

From Bleach there is:
Ulquiorra (http://i.imgur.com/87hOPJ1.jpg)

From Teen Titans there is:
Starfire (http://i.imgur.com/dHG2YcB.jpg)
Raven (http://i.imgur.com/9UoKe1D.jpg)

In this battle, only one will survive. How do you think the battle will go? Who do you think will be survivor? Of the two who get killed off, who do you think will be the first to die, and the second? And for each of those two who get killed off, who do you think is most likely to do the killing?

Kumagawa
02-26-2014, 11:08 AM
starfire cus she is the sexiest

Anime Forum
02-26-2014, 02:55 PM
starfire cus she is the sexiest

I bet there are Ulquiorra fangirls who would disagree..

Zainox
02-27-2014, 01:58 AM
I bet there are Ulquiorra fangirls who would disagree..

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02-27-2014, 07:41 AM
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Lord Xasthur
02-27-2014, 03:26 PM
Ulquiorra all the way, but out of the two Teen Titans, Raven.

Zainox
02-28-2014, 12:40 AM
Same, Ulquiorra.

GameGeeks
02-28-2014, 01:33 AM
Yeah, I'll reiterate. Anyone vs comics automatically equals comics win. The only real exception for this is DBZ. Sorry, but Ulquiorra would be demolished by anyone of any substantial power like Starfire and Raven. I'd cap Bleach's power at what Goku is at at pre Radditz.

Anime Forum
02-28-2014, 02:24 AM
Yeah, I'll reiterate. Anyone vs comics automatically equals comics win. The only real exception for this is DBZ. Sorry, but Ulquiorra would be demolished by anyone of any substantial power like Starfire and Raven. I'd cap Bleach's power at what Goku is at at pre Radditz.

Don't you think that is pushing it just a little? No way could pre Raditz Goku beat some of those Bleach characters. While Goku vs Vegeta timeline Goku could, seeing how weak Goku was back then compared to 30 episodes later is pretty staggering.

I could even offer proof on this.

The rest. Can't disagree.

GameGeeks
02-28-2014, 02:48 AM
Don't you think that is pushing it just a little? No way could pre Raditz Goku beat some of those Bleach characters. While Goku vs Vegeta timeline Goku could, seeing how weak Goku was back then compared to 30 episodes later is pretty staggering.

I could even offer proof on this.

The rest. Can't disagree.
It's iffy but at the same time they certainly couldn't take him after King Kai's training and Raddits is just the natural break point.

Major.Tom
02-28-2014, 05:43 AM
Haven't seen teen titans so wouldn't know about the run of the fight.
Ulquiorra regenerates though, that's gotta be tough to deal with?

GameGeeks
02-28-2014, 10:57 AM
Haven't seen teen titans so wouldn't know about the run of the fight.
Ulquiorra regenerates though, that's gotta be tough to deal with?
You know how common regeneration is in comics?

Anime Forum
02-28-2014, 02:51 PM
It's iffy but at the same time they certainly couldn't take him after King Kai's training and Raddits is just the natural break point.

No doubt. The Goku that defeats Nappa and takes on Vegeta could beat every Bleach character because lets face it, even Nappa and Vegeta can destroy planets at that time (that was proven in an episode).

Raditz's power level is 1200 I believe and that would easily be enough to beat most of the Bleach characters, but I think a select few may be able to stop him depending on the situation. Those very few are:

- Aizen
- Ichigo at full power against Aizen
- Captain Yamamoto
- Captain Zaraki Kenpachi (Fully released and not holding back) <-- (see manga)
- Captain Unohana (see manga)

I'd say the breaking point of them would be Garlic Jr. from Dead Zone who has a power level of 1,450.

Kaitou+
02-28-2014, 04:07 PM
Comics will always stomp anime, and no DBZ isn't even an exception at all.

DBZ isn't even the highest tier in strength either, that would go to Saint Seiya.

Saiya God Cloth is relatively god tier too.

Anime Forum
02-28-2014, 08:10 PM
Comics will always stomp anime, and no DBZ isn't even an exception at all.

DBZ isn't even the highest tier in strength either, that would go to Saint Seiya.

Saiya God Cloth is relatively god tier too.

Are you sure? I remember looking at a tier list of anime series and the top two were:

- Dragon Ball Z
- Fist of the North Star

I problem with even those two are that there are so many hidden anime gems out there with really strong anime characters who have beyond god like powers. I'm not saying they can beat the comics, but they should be considered in the top five at least.

Kaitou+
02-28-2014, 08:50 PM
Are you sure? I remember looking at a tier list of anime series and the top two were:

- Dragon Ball Z
- Fist of the North Star

I problem with even those two are that there are so many hidden anime gems out there with really strong anime characters who have beyond god like powers. I'm not saying they can beat the comics, but they should be considered in the top five at least.

SS God can possibly beat Seiya, but I doubt it.

But yeah, Goku isn't in the top when it comes to tier-list.

GameGeeks
02-28-2014, 09:24 PM
SS God can possibly beat Seiya, but I doubt it.

But yeah, Goku isn't in the top when it comes to tier-list.
No, even then, Saint Saiya seems based on Greek Mythology. Don't see Zues taking on Goku. Especially since the Greek gods don't have the power to blow up planets. So no, I doubt Saiya could take Goku.

Kaitou+
02-28-2014, 09:36 PM
No, even then, Saint Saiya seems based on Greek Mythology. Don't see Zues taking on Goku. Especially since the Greek gods don't have the power to blow up planets. So no, I doubt Saiya could take Goku.

Lolno.

God Cloth Seiya (as well as the characters) is FTL.

Sadly, SS scans are a lot harder to find than DBZ scans so this is the best I got.

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/507/saint150026.jpg
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8941/saint150027.jpg
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/2195/saint150028.jpg

See all the galaxies they are traveling. All of Seiyas (in God Cloth) attacks are OP, and yeah he can blow up planets and create black holes.

Have you watched it or read the series before?

Real life =/= Shonen.

GameGeeks
02-28-2014, 09:55 PM
Lolno.

God Cloth Seiya (as a long of the characters) is FTL.

Sadly, SS scans are a lot harder to find than DBZ scans so this is the best I got.

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/507/saint150026.jpg
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8941/saint150027.jpg
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/2195/saint150028.jpg

See all the galaxies they are traveling. All of Seiyas (in God Cloth) attacks are OP, and yeah he can blow up planets and create black holes.

Have you watched it or read the series before?

Real life =/= Shonen.
That's travel, not power. Doesn't mean anything when it comes to combat. And I've seen bits of the anime when it was on TV. Still the closest I've found is Hades creating a universe. That still doesn't translate to combat. And you have to recognize, makes him powerful, but not all power is translated into combat. Healing an entire world at once is extremely powerful, doesn't mean you'll win in combat. And lets change from planets to galaxies. Goku has the power to destroy a galaxy in one shot. Even if we ignore GT and just focus on the recent movie.

Kaitou+
02-28-2014, 10:04 PM
That's travel, not power. Doesn't mean anything when it comes to combat. And I've seen bits of the anime when it was on TV. Still the closest I've found is Hades creating a universe. That still doesn't translate to combat. And you have to recognize, makes him powerful, but not all power is translated into combat. Healing an entire world at once is extremely powerful, doesn't mean you'll win in combat. And lets change from planets to galaxies. Goku has the power to destroy a galaxy in one shot. Even if we ignore GT and just focus on the recent movie.

Your argument is one sided. You haven't seen enough to prove otherwise, because again, you're just showing your fandom for Goku.

Sadly, there's isn't much Manga scanlations out there to prove so either.

But speed does translate into combat though., even if it's in one exception being USSJ Trunks vs. Perfect Cell.

With their speed, and them being strong enough to do damage, then yeah they can beat him.

Anime Forum
02-28-2014, 10:07 PM
SS God can possibly beat Seiya, but I doubt it.

But yeah, Goku isn't in the top when it comes to tier-list.

I actually agree with this. While I do think Goku is in the top ten for tiers in anime (I'm choosing one per anime series) there are so many hidden gems out there people will often ignore. I once said Goku was the strongest in anime, but I'm regretting that statement now.

GameGeeks
02-28-2014, 10:21 PM
Your argument is one sided. You haven't seen enough to prove otherwise, because again, you're just showing your fandom for Goku.

Sadly, there's isn't much Manga scanlations out there to prove so either.

But speed does translate into combat though., even if it's in one exception being USSJ Trunks vs. Perfect Cell.

With their speed, and them being strong enough to do damage, then yeah they can beat him.
It's a bit one sided but doesn't mean I can't research. And speed isn't a good way to determen since we don't know how fast Goku and company move. And not buying your argument about finding scans. Just did a Google search and found the entire manga translated.

Kaitou+
02-28-2014, 10:25 PM
It's a bit one sided but doesn't mean I can't research. And speed isn't a good way to determen since we don't know how fast Goku and company move. And not buying your argument about finding scans. Just did a Google search and found the entire manga translated.

Can't find the ones I am trying to find.

And if you did research, you would find threads a lot of people saying Seiya >> Goku
https://www.google.com/search?q=God+Cloth+Seiya+vs+goku&oq=God+Cloth+Seiya+Vs+Goku&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i60.6056j0j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

There's a lot (A LOOOOOT) of people saying basically what I am saying that SS attacks are all OP and that they solo Goku.

So yeah, still one sided just like the Vs. Superman argument.

And yes, Seiya has the ability to beat some Supermans as well, but obviously Superman at his best murders Seiya in the end.

GameGeeks
02-28-2014, 10:40 PM
Can't find the ones I am trying to find.

And if you did research, you would find threads a lot of people saying Seiya >> Goku
https://www.google.com/search?q=God+Cloth+Seiya+vs+goku&oq=God+Cloth+Seiya+Vs+Goku&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i60.6056j0j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

There's a lot (A LOOOOOT) of people saying basically what I am saying that SS attacks are all OP and that they solo Goku.

So yeah, still one sided just like the Vs. Superman argument.

And yes, Seiya has the ability to beat some Supermans as well, but obviously Superman at his best murders Seiya in the end.
It's all opinion, and if you really wanted to get down to it. Light would win against them all since they don't hide their names. So in the end it's all moot.

Kaitou+
02-28-2014, 10:45 PM
It's all opinion, and if you really wanted to get down to it. Light would win against them all since they don't hide their names. So in the end it's all moot.

It's all opinions.

Lol, okay.

Death Note only works on humans. So...bad bad bad argument.

(referring to Goku on this one, by the way since this is what people mostly look and are ignorant enough to think the DN can kill him)

GameGeeks
02-28-2014, 10:51 PM
It's all opinions.

Lol, okay.

Death Note only works on humans. So...bad bad bad argument.

(referring to Goku on this one, by the way since this is what people mostly look and are ignorant enough to think the DN can kill him)
No really it is when both series are completely different. There's nothing you really can do but conjecture. So it'd work on Saiya but not Goku then. And I'll admit I forgot that detail but then I rather dislike Death Note so not really going to take the effort to remember every detail.

Kaitou+
02-28-2014, 10:52 PM
No really it is when both series are completely different. There's nothing you really can do but conjecture. So it'd work on Saiya but not Goku then. And I'll admit I forgot that detail but then I rather dislike Death Note so not really going to take the effort to remember every detail.

Lol remind me next time to say Goku >>> God to avoid this argument every time someone puts him down.

And the first line it's the ultimate excuse to invalidate any battle. It's silly. You should see anime threads of dedicated people actually discussing these with educated facts.

GameGeeks
02-28-2014, 11:07 PM
Lol remind me next time to say Goku >>> God to avoid this argument every time someone puts him down.

And the first line it's the ultimate excuse to invalidate any battle. It's silly. You should see anime threads of dedicated people actually discussing these with educated facts.
Doesn't make it any less true. But I'll admit I don't know enough about Saiya. Just that anything I could find on the anime doesn't look that impressive. But you bring up the manga and I have zero clue about it so I'll just step out here. And the vs battles will always be conjecture unless it's characters from the same universe or similar Universes. Like Superman vs Apocalypse.

Kaitou+
02-28-2014, 11:15 PM
Doesn't make it any less true. But I'll admit I don't know enough about Saiya. Just that anything I could find on the anime doesn't look that impressive. But you bring up the manga and I have zero clue about it so I'll just step out here. And the vs battles will always be conjecture unless it's characters from the same universe or similar Universes. Like Superman vs Apocalypse.

They aren't conjectures.

They aren't facts but they are very educated opinions or arguments in a lot of scenarios (like this one) Not saying you are in this particular argument but it's a damage control excuse I hear when someone can't defend their argument. (quick example; when people try to deny Top-tier Digimon can't beat Top-tier Pokemons)

I do think God-tier Pokemon > God-Tier Digimon though, but gotta do more research.

GameGeeks
03-01-2014, 12:15 AM
They aren't conjectures.

They aren't facts but they are very educated opinions or arguments in a lot of scenarios (like this one) Not saying you are in this particular argument but it's a damage control excuse I hear when someone can't defend their argument. (quick example; when people try to deny Top-tier Digimon can't beat Top-tier Pokemons)

I do think God-tier Pokemon > God-Tier Digimon though, but gotta do more research.
Conjecture: inference from defective or presumptive evidence

Nope, conjecture works. Even with educated opinions it's still presumptive evidence.

That said, yeah, I'll admit I shot my foot with this one. But to be fair, you did only focus on speed and we don't have a speed reference in DBZ. Just that they move faster then you can see and it's only natural that increase to who knows what level as the series progressed.

Kaitou+
03-01-2014, 12:18 AM
GameGeeks
This is what I found: an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

I did mention that they got god-like powers but I should of posted scans too, you're right.


Nope, conjecture works. Even with educated opinions it's still presumptive evidence.

You're not wrong but just saying "Woops, different universe" it's damage controlling.

It's always possible to be a discussion.

Albear
03-01-2014, 01:26 AM
Raven might defeat Ulquiorra but if she stays away and attack when he is pinned down. Starfire.... I don't think so.
That espada is very powerful and can stay calm while both Raven and Starfire can lose their s--t in the heat of battle.

Major.Tom
03-01-2014, 01:31 PM
You know how common regeneration is in comics?

True, might not be a gamechanger after all.

Animedude5555
03-01-2014, 08:39 PM
How did this go from talking about the characters I posted in my OP, to talking about EVERYONE ELSE in all of anime?