Anime made westerners realize and believe that they are ugly to Asians [Archive]

Anoleis

02-22-2014, 12:31 PM

This is proven by most westerners who Cosplay are prefer to imitate Asians Anime/Asian characters and not their own cartoon/western characters which can be seen at their western Cosplay websites such as www.cosplay.com (http://www.animeforum.com/www.cosplay.com) . As for Asians almost all of Asians who Cosplay are prefer to imitate Asians own Anime/Asian characters which can be seen at our Asian Cosplay websites such as http://curecos.com (http://curecos.com/)

I'll suspend studying for this travesty of logic.

"Most westerners who cosplayers" are cosplaying charachters whose looks aren't usually limited to a single facial structure. Their origins might be asian, but can you really say this (http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090818235731/gurennlagann/images/5/56/Simon_stepping_out_og_Gurren_Lagann.jpg) looks strictly like an asian person?

This is maybe also why westerners have to scam in order to be "famous" cosplaying Anime/Asian characters http://www.antiwc.net/group/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3041
After clicking the link
http://i57.tinypic.com/2uidwjr.jpg

Ωmega

02-22-2014, 12:38 PM

Ok, so theres a bunch of racist asians who hate westerners. So?

sunnyside

02-22-2014, 02:18 PM

I'll presume you're just trolling here with your first post. But what the heck.

First, one of the interesting things about anime is the blending of Western and Japanese culture as it was influenced early on by western animation. So you wind up with the big eyes small mouth thing and consequently...well lets just say Sailor Moon isn't exactly sporting what one could consider stereotypical asian features.

This is proven by most westerners who Cosplay are prefer to imitate Asians Anime/Asian characters and not their own cartoon/western characters which can be seen at their western Cosplay websites such as www.cosplay.com (http://www.animeforum.com/www.cosplay.com)[SIZE=2] .

You screwed that link up. We're you trying to link to this site?

Anyway while it's nice to see some anime characters (who may or may not look asian to start with), they only make up a modest fractions of cosplayers in the US. Maybe if you're at an anime specific thing it's be different. But you can look up something like comicon to get a feel for a more typical blend.

Kajune

02-22-2014, 03:39 PM

It is very ridiculous whenever there is someone said that Anime have something to do with western stuff because among all Asians Japanese the one most one who believe that westerners are unattractive.

The reason western games not sell well in Japan is the same reason why western cartoon not sell well in Japan because western games and cartoon characters which made by westerners based on themselves are not cute, while Japanese prefer cuteness and also believe westerners are not cute. Another evidences of this are :
- Japanese prefer to Cosplay Anime/Asian characters and not cartoon/western characters.
- Japanese not choosing any westerners to form the sister group for AKB48 and instead choosing other Asians such as Indonesian and Chinese.
- Dolls, action figures and other figurines that are based on westerners are also not sell well in Japan.
- Etc

And di you all know what writen in the Japanese Anime museum in Tokyo about the origin of Anime? What writen on it have nothing to do with westerners, Japanese also believe that Anime characters are based on Japanese.

Anoleis

02-22-2014, 05:39 PM

And di you all know what writen in the Japanese Anime museum in Tokyo about the origin of Anime? What writen on it have nothing to do with westerners, Japanese also believe that Anime characters are based on Japanese.

Right, because Eren Jeager and Lelouche are Japanese. You're having a really hard time dealing with someone dressing up like fictional characters being more please to some than others.

Sympathy

02-22-2014, 05:59 PM

you waited a whole year after signing up to post and this is what you offer?

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man that's anticlimactic

sunnyside

02-22-2014, 09:01 PM

you waited a whole year after signing up to post and this is what you offer?

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man that's anticlimactic

Maybe they forgot their password and that's why it was Kajune2 who made this thread that the forum tagged as similar to this one
http://www.animeforum.com/showthread.php?115659-Scientifically-proven-Anime-characters-are-based-on-Asians

The other thread seems even more off than this one (without wasting much time on that video beyond in into screen), and again doesn't realize that anime is still somewhat obscure over here and probably 90%+ of cosplayers aren't going to be cosplaying an anime character.

Though still somewhat odd behavior for a typical troll. Is this actually a thing for you Kajune? Care to share what your deal is?

Kaleohano

02-23-2014, 06:29 AM

http://i.imgur.com/kPOZx.jpg

nuff said.

BehaZ

02-23-2014, 06:47 AM

Thats because Manga/Anime are drawn/animated differently than American animated cartoons/comics, thats the only reason. In the end cosplay is about how well you portray the character and not about whether you are ugly or not :P

Vintniv

02-23-2014, 07:13 AM

Haha, what a thread OP....

Its worth remembering that anime/manga was first developed in Japan after WW2 because American soldiers brought comic books with them which inspired the Japanese to try their hands at it.

Also: https://www.google.com/#q=asian+eye+rounding+surgery
If Asians think Westerners are so ugly, then why is plastic surgery for the rounding of their eyes to look like Westerners so popular in countries (like Japan)? Is it because OP didnt do research and is just trolling? Neat!

Kajune

02-23-2014, 07:31 AM

Japanese claim that Anime have nothing to do with westerners and that Anime characters based on Japanese while westerners claim Anime are based on them. I choose to believe Japanese rather than westerners who could not even make any Anime and always fail cosplaying Anime characters [ proven by almost all Anime fans especially from Japan not like western cosplayers ].

As for Asians who do eye lid surgery, keep hallucinating that they do it with the reason of want to be/look like western because in reality they never admit it, the Asians who do eye lids surgery said doing it are for better eye sight, blend with the majority of othe Asians, etc that have nothing to do with westerners.

If you want to show concrete evidence then show something like http://curecos.com where almost all Asians who Cosplay prefer to imitate Anime/Asian characters.

Sympathy

02-23-2014, 08:35 AM

As for Asians who do eye lid surgery, keep hallucinating that they do it with the reason of want to be/look like western because in reality they never admit it, the Asians who do eye lids surgery said doing it are for better eye sight, blend with the majority of othe Asians, etc that have nothing to do with westerners.

yeah Serated, this guy has a lot of japanese friends and acquaintances that have had eye surgery, and they all say it's better for their eyesight.

or maybe he's full of shet.

Vintniv

02-23-2014, 09:07 AM

yeah Serated, this guy has a lot of japanese friends and acquaintances that have had eye surgery, and they all say it's better for their eyesight.

or maybe he's full of shet.

I dont have the free time in my daily life to interrogate OP's friends on their life choices; I have things I wanna do today, so I find it more comforting to go with the 'he's full of crap' argument that you have presented.

wolfgirl90

02-23-2014, 11:55 PM

This is proven by most westerners who Cosplay are prefer to imitate Asians Anime/Asian characters and not their own cartoon/western characters which can be seen at their western Cosplay websites such as www.cosplay.com . As for Asians almost all of Asians who Cosplay are prefer to imitate Asians own Anime/Asian characters which can be seen at Asians Cosplay websites such as http://curecos.com

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Okay, what in the Goddess' infinite names are you even talking about? Do you even know? Did you come to this forum and create an account just to spout ignorant nonsense? Ugh, my head hurts thinking about it. Well, since you are new, I'll just let you know that silly, silly people like yourself usually end up getting fed to my wolves. But let me put you in your place first.

What you said doesn't make sense on a fundamental level. On that site, I saw cosplayers dressed as many different characters. From Star Trek to Bones to The Little Mermaid to Frozen. I also saw some people dressed as anime and video game (both western and Japanese) characters. Okay, some westerners like to dress up as anime characters. You point is....what exactly? Anime is prolific here in the West (in terms of popularity). There are millions of nerdy people in the West who like anime, so naturally millions of Westerners like to dress up as anime characters. No freaking duh. And am I supposed to be surprised when you say that Asians like to dress up as Asian cartoon characters? Does this even mean anything? Should my feelings be hurt because an Asian chick would rather cosplay as Hatsune Miku instead of Captain Janeway?

This is maybe also why westerners have to scam in order to be "famous" cosplaying Anime/Asian characters http://www.antiwc.net/group/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3041

So this racist Asian chick believes that a Western cosplayer must have scammed her way to the top because she is more popular than an Asian cosplayer (despite the fact that an Asian cosplayer outranks her). Reading that nonsense made me want to punch a pillow. I never knew that the issue of race was such an issue for some people.

I choose to believe Japanese rather than westerners who could not even make any Anime and always fail cosplaying Anime characters [ proven by almost all Anime fans especially from Japan not like western cosplayers ].

Well, first of all, Westerners can't make anime because anime only comes from Japan per the definition of the word. So that's something else that doesn't make any damn sense.

Second, again, this can be easily explained by the fact that Asians like dressing up as characters from Asian cartoons and Westerners simply liking anime enough to do the same. Of course, plenty of Westerners dress up as Western characters; hell I saw as much on the site that you posted. So again, I don't know what you are talking about.:rolleyes:

Furthermore, not every anime takes place in Japan nor should one make that assumption. So, when one "fails" at playing an anime character, is it just because they don't look Asian? Because there are plenty of anime characters that are clearly Western but Asians cosplay as them anyway. So what the hell is the point of even bring up race when it is often ambiguous?

What is this? Taiwanese and top cosplayer Hyko as Erwin Smith from Attack on Titan (Shingeki no Kyojin)?

http://image.worldcosplay.net/uploads/24595/f5a4fd2ec0688a9ed701438c4db67380257a1251-740.jpg

You mean this Taiwanese guy is cosplaying as a White guy from a Japanese show? He looks nothing like Erwin! ERWIN'S NOT ASIAN!!

I declare this cosplay flawed and failed. FAILED, I TELL YA!:rolleyes::rolleyes: This is your logic at work here.

Get out of here, you ignorant welp.

/thread

Kaleohano

02-24-2014, 12:43 AM

[/COLOR]wolfgirl90
I see you havent changed one bit.
I missed you :)

Kajune

02-24-2014, 08:56 AM

Other than not cute the reason why Anime fans not like western cosplayers is because they said westerners look too old.

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/283/5/3/53b6ba023cafbaf826192ce7af5d9b8d-d5hd9t5.jpg
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/283/0/8/086e18e1604cf908b850b700cabe7881-d5hd8iw.jpg
Is she a 6 years old Asian girl? No think again because she is a 22 years old Asian girl.

Kumagawa

02-24-2014, 11:41 AM

http://i.imgur.com/kPOZx.jpg

nuff said.

time to fap

Token Black Guy

02-24-2014, 11:43 AM

I seen this same guy on Deviant Art (http://search.deviantart.com/?qh=boost%3Apopular&section=forum&q=racist+westerners) making the same stupid arguments. I guess some people never change. SMH.......

wolfgirl90

02-24-2014, 01:56 PM

Other than not cute the reason why Anime fans not like western cosplayers is because they said westerners look too old.

Is she a 6 years old Asian girl? No think again because she is a 22 years old Asian girl.

Well, I guess the "not cute" thing comes from the fact that Japan has a different standard of beauty than we do. We are all about adult faces, boobs, and butts so big that we lose the ability to lie about how much we love them. However, in Japan, it is all about being "kawaii" and looking young. Really young. So there's that.

However, once again, that opinion falls apart when one thinks about how freaking varied anime is. For example, not only is Hyko cosplaying a man outside of his race, but Erwin is at least 30 years old, probably older than that. Portraying him as "young" would be a little silly and even antithetical to his character. However, that is more or less unavoidable considering Hyko's body type. So who cares? Again, using your logic, Hyko's cosplay is flawed on a fundamental level because, despite the amount of detail in his costume, he is young and not White. Does that make any bloody sense to you? Because it doesn't to me.:glare:

Same thing goes for Japanese video game characters (I've seen this argument used for them too). Age and race varies so much that there is no point in trying to make some type of standard for it. For example, Fang (from Final Fantasy XIII) is a 5'9" 21 year old who beats people up. Having the looks of a 6 year old wouldn't work here.

I think American cosplayer Callesto did a pretty good job here (http://www.cosplay.com/costume/314739/):

http://photo.cosplay.com/69512/3089887.jpg

Or did she fail because she isn't Japanese? Does her race really matter when Fang's race is incredibly ambiguous? If she looks "too old" due to the fact that she is American, how young does she need to look when Fang looks like this?

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110830021713/finalfantasy/images/2/21/Ff13-fang.png

[/COLOR]wolfgirl90
I see you havent changed one bit.
I missed you :)

I've been busy with a new full time job and some family stuff.

But it feels good to be back.:laugh:

Miss Moonlight

02-24-2014, 02:05 PM

Whatever happened to "don't feed the troll?"

blueangel06661

02-24-2014, 02:29 PM

sunnyside

02-24-2014, 09:35 PM

Whatever happened to "don't feed the troll?"

Normally good advice, but this is a weird sort of troll and things have been to quite around here...

Other than not cute the reason why Anime fans not like western cosplayers is because they said westerners look too old.

Is she a 6 years old Asian girl? No think again because she is a 22 years old Asian girl.

Well it is true that we don't really have the lolicon/jailbait/pedo thing going on over here so much. It's rather frowned upon really.

Still curious what your "thing" is.

So this racist Asian chick believes that a Western cosplayer must have scammed her way to the top because she is more popular than an Asian cosplayer (despite the fact that an Asian cosplayer outranks her). Reading that nonsense made me want to punch a pillow. I never knew that the issue of race was such an issue for some people.

For the most part anime fans over here tend to not be racist, and much of the anime out there is rather cross cultural. I enjoy it when they start speaking (or singing) in English or referencing western things in a subbed anime.

That said, in some anime and the broader Japanese culture you can find a lot of the old racism and anti-Americanism. There are still places in Japan that wouldn't allow your Gaijin self in.

So there is sort of a fine line there. We're the only fandom I can think of that has perjerative terms for people that take it too far (when they start idolizing all things Japanese.) Though this forum like many others censors them...so the anime fandom came up with another term...and this forum censors that one as well. But you get the idea.

Anyway I suggest trying to look on the positive side of things and focus on the non-racists :) (Though don't completely forget about the rest. Although this troll doesn't count as they are as likely as not just some bored guy in Nebraska trying to get a rise out of us.)

Kajune

02-25-2014, 01:13 AM

Personal favorite western character cosplayed by an asian
http://th07.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/205/5/1/alice_madness_returns__steam_dress_by_rurik0-d6ctsvl.jpg

Personal favorite anime/manga/games originating for japan at least; cosplays done by westerners.
http://th08.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/222/8/f/blood_on_my_hands___elfen_lied_by_miss_alice_monst er-d6hitfr.jpg
http://garnettilalexandros.deviantart.com/art/Final-Fantasy-X-Yuna-307669675?q=favby%3Ablueangel06661%2F52012586&qo=13
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/065/6/e/teresa_is_ready_for_battle_by_vampbeauty-d4rx9q2.jpg
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/271/c/5/white_scars_by_rei_doll-d5g51ji.jpg
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/282/7/4/angel__s_territory_by_the_kirana-d4cb13q.jpg
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/160/2/0/20dd9300920442f9353e0f7b5b5f7991-d3ig7c4.jpg
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/122/e/0/The_Water_Card_by_Federkiel.jpg
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/233/3/9/rei_and_usagi_by_snejinochi-d5bvzla.jpg

You mean to tell me these are too ugly? Suuuuuuure

Are you realizing what you posted only support this topic which I think you don't agree with?

As for the western cosplayers you posted I only see 3 of them [ I turn my image option off ] and I only recognize one of the character which is Ayanami Rei so I can only comment about her, and my comment is she is another failure. She may look good to you but not for almost all other Anime especially Evangelion fans, if you need concrete evidence about this then just ask and I will prove it.

blueangel06661

02-25-2014, 06:37 AM

Are you realizing what you posted only support this topic which I think you don't agree with?

As for the western cosplayers you posted I only see 3 of them [ I turn my image option off ] and I only recognize one of the character which is Ayanami Rei so I can only comment about her, and my comment is she is another failure. She may look good to you but not for almost all other Anime especially Evangelion fans, if you need concrete evidence about this then just ask and I will prove it.

If you don't know any of the others? Why are you even in this community?
As for Rei, you don't know anything you're a moron and I now STRONGLY dislike you.

All of these people look way better than that racist asian cosplayer you posted.

Also; Most anime's, the characters do NOT look asian at all.. They are not animated or drawn to look 'asian' so why does it matter?

Anoleis

02-25-2014, 09:10 AM

Also; Most anime's, the characters do NOT look asian at all.. They are not animated or drawn to look 'asian' so why does it matter?
Because OP is racist, and to him/her only the Jaρanese can properly do this. OP is butt devastated that some person is getting attention for a good cosplay, and the only reason for said anal devastation is that the cosplayer was white (western).

sunnyside

02-25-2014, 10:58 PM

If you don't know any of the others? Why are you even in this community?
As for Rei, you don't know anything you're a moron and I now STRONGLY dislike you.

All of these people look way better than that racist asian cosplayer you posted.

Also; Most anime's, the characters do NOT look asian at all.. They are not animated or drawn to look 'asian' so why does it matter?

Because OP is racist,

OP is like as not just a troll, and not even believe what they're writing. They just like ticking you off. The oddness of the thread and them not knowing many anime series seems to support that.

There is some chance they're some sort of emotionally wounded Japanese or something, which I found interesting

Though the premise seems odd. I mean there are over 3000 McDonalds in Japan (according to wiki and nationmaster). As an American I think that's awesome, as opposed to being offended and telling them that they're making them wrong.

So probably just a boring sort of troll.

Or I guess somebody from Stormfront that wants caucasians to feel racial animosity and stop cosplaying asian stuff.

The interwebz are a weird place that way.

Zainox

02-26-2014, 01:30 AM

She may look good to you but not for almost all other Anime especially Evangelion fans.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRHYjSDYBG7IlDNm60BdxYWjSZlii73p YJ7w764WBdyApqrzQvouw

I didn't realize you spoke for almost all other Anime, especially Evangelion fans.

Anime Forum

02-26-2014, 01:43 AM

Are you realizing what you posted only support this topic which I think you don't agree with?

As for the western cosplayers you posted I only see 3 of them [ I turn my image option off ] and I only recognize one of the character which is Ayanami Rei so I can only comment about her, and my comment is she is another failure. She may look good to you but not for almost all other Anime especially Evangelion fans, if you need concrete evidence about this then just ask and I will prove it.

"Almost all other" was a risky choice of words.

I wanna hear this one. Please prove this.

I want an official poll that supports your claim.

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http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRHYjSDYBG7IlDNm60BdxYWjSZlii73p YJ7w764WBdyApqrzQvouw

I didn't realize you spoke for almost all other Anime, especially Evangelion fans.

Dude like.. This guy may have an official poll of some sort. You may very well regret that facepalm!

Animedude5555

02-26-2014, 01:46 AM

Personal favorite western character cosplayed by an asian
http://th07.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/205/5/1/alice_madness_returns__steam_dress_by_rurik0-d6ctsvl.jpg

Personal favorite anime/manga/games originating for japan at least; cosplays done by westerners.
http://th08.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/222/8/f/blood_on_my_hands___elfen_lied_by_miss_alice_monst er-d6hitfr.jpg
http://garnettilalexandros.deviantart.com/art/Final-Fantasy-X-Yuna-307669675?q=favby%3Ablueangel06661%2F52012586&qo=13
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/065/6/e/teresa_is_ready_for_battle_by_vampbeauty-d4rx9q2.jpg
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/271/c/5/white_scars_by_rei_doll-d5g51ji.jpg
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/282/7/4/angel__s_territory_by_the_kirana-d4cb13q.jpg
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/160/2/0/20dd9300920442f9353e0f7b5b5f7991-d3ig7c4.jpg
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/122/e/0/The_Water_Card_by_Federkiel.jpg
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/233/3/9/rei_and_usagi_by_snejinochi-d5bvzla.jpg

You mean to tell me these are too ugly? Suuuuuuure

Awesome post! By the way, it's hard to tell, which of those cosplayers are Japanese, which are non-Japanese Asians, and which are whites? I can't tell just looking at those pics. Can you tell me? I'm kinda curious.

Kajune

02-26-2014, 08:19 AM

"Almost all other" was a risky choice of words.

I wanna hear this one. Please prove this.

I want an official poll that supports your claim.

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Dude like.. This guy may have an official poll of some sort. You may very well regret that facepalm!

http://antiwesterncosplayers.blogspot.com/2013/02/evidence-of-anime-fans-hate-western.html

Use all of the methods described on the blog so that you yourself can also prove it.

Anyway, I can see many butthurt members in here especially who call me racist and a troll. First of all there no racism in what I said because what I said is what almost all Anime fans especially Japanese feels, and there is also no racism about what they feel because they don't like western cosplayers not simply because western cosplayers are being born as westerner, but because western cospalyers not look like Anime/Asian characters which end up ruining the Anime characters Anime fans especially Japanese love and respect.

This is the kind of Cosplay which Anime fans especially Japanese will approve :
http://s7.postimage.org/4l6s5trx7/Superior_Asian_1.jpg
http://s8.postimage.org/o3iitg07p/Superior_Asian_2.jpg

As for calling me as a troll are only mean they want to run away from the "truth" they can't accept because while calling me as troll they keep replying to my topic. Which mean they themselves the one who don't believe what they said, if they truly believe me as troll then they will not keep replying to my topic because they will know it is useless to reply to a troll, they keep replying because deep inside they know I'm saying the truth and unfortunately for them that truth is something they don't like.

If there is any of you want to prove there are good cosplayers then prove it by using the scientific method shown on this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT-EzudJXmY . Posting random western cosplayers and claim them as good western cosplayers will not work to convince or other Anime fans like me. Me for example have used that scientific method and found out there is no western cosplayer who can outmatch Asian cosplayers in cosplaying Ayanami Rei for example.

Kumagawa

02-26-2014, 11:10 AM

Are you realizing what you posted only support this topic which I think you don't agree with?

As for the western cosplayers you posted I only see 3 of them [ I turn my image option off ] and I only recognize one of the character which is Ayanami Rei so I can only comment about her, and my comment is she is another failure. She may look good to you but not for almost all other Anime especially Evangelion fans, if you need concrete evidence about this then just ask and I will prove it.

If you only recognized rei ayanami out of all those cosplayers (even though all of them dressed as characters from super popular anime) then youre a filthy casual and are not permitted to have any opinion about anime, cosplay or any other similar subject, Im sorry.

Light Buster

02-26-2014, 01:04 PM

OP is like as not just a troll, and not even believe what they're writing. They just like ticking you off. The oddness of the thread and them not knowing many anime series seems to support that.

There is some chance they're some sort of emotionally wounded Japanese or something, which I found interesting

Though the premise seems odd. I mean there are over 3000 McDonalds in Japan (according to wiki and nationmaster). As an American I think that's awesome, as opposed to being offended and telling them that they're making them wrong.

So probably just a boring sort of troll.

Or I guess somebody from Stormfront that wants caucasians to feel racial animosity and stop cosplaying asian stuff.

The interwebz are a weird place that way.

I'm inclined to agree there. There are some people who like ticking off other people. Why is this the case I'll never know. The world as we know it is slowing destroying itself with people like Kajune and Animedude5555.

This argument is really getting out of hand, which was pointless in the first place. I sense that this thread will be shut down really soon.

DeathBlade/13.666

02-26-2014, 01:22 PM

It is slightly out of hand, but it does touch base on an interesting topic of cosplaying by race. Should folks stick within their race when cosplaying? Personally I don't care if one does or doesn't, only that when they cosplay they do it with pride and quality. Otherwise it looks like trash and meme's are born.
https://scontent-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/38956_446359977717_942041_n.jpg?lvh=1

Animedude5555

02-26-2014, 11:16 PM

I get a sense that this guy is just trolling.

Zainox

02-27-2014, 01:44 AM

If there is any of you want to prove there are good cosplayers then prove it by using the scientific method shown on this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT-EzudJXmY . Posting random western cosplayers and claim them as good western cosplayers will not work to convince or other Anime fans like me. Me for example have used that scientific method and found out there is no western cosplayer who can outmatch Asian cosplayers in cosplaying Ayanami Rei for example.

Everyone should be free to have their own opinion, but I feel yours is very closed minded and ignorant. Firstly you claim that most other anime fans won't find western cosplayers appealing at all. Though if you were to go by the percentage from this topics posts alone you are already wrong.

Also I watched the video.. Scientifically proven, eh...? Ahhh, no! All they did was go to Google images and click on professional photographed Asian cosplays and random/home photographed western cosplays. If your going to go by the videos comments, they do seem to agree with you. Though the likes and dislikes showed 20 likes compared to 209 dislikes. Clearly there is a 189 people difference there, and a much higher rate of people who don't agree with what you or the video were saying.

You will find bad western cosplay and bad Asian cosplay. One is not better than the other, it's all how they go about it. Enough effort involved and anyone can look good.

wolfgirl90

02-27-2014, 03:02 AM

First of all there no racism in what I said because what I said is what almost all Anime fans especially Japanese feels, and there is also no racism about what they feel because they don't like western cosplayers not simply because western cosplayers are being born as westerner, but because western cospalyers not look like Anime/Asian characters which end up ruining the Anime characters Anime fans especially Japanese love and respect.

First, you don't speak for a race nor a group of people, so please don't act as if you do. It doesn't help your argument one bit to act as if you know the opinions of all anime fans, even Japanese fans.:glare:

Second, I don't know if you have realized this, but hating a group of people because you believe that they ruin a character based on their race is in fact racist (HA! "Ruin a character"...what a childish and idiotic notion). What did that picture say? "Dumb ugly western girls?" Oh that's not racist? Yeah....right.

Apparently, in the most retarded way possible, western cosplayers can ruin even western anime characters simply because western cosplayers are western and, apparently, ALL anime characters are Asian. That is retarded. This is how retarded people think. If someone is going to blatantly say that a race of people shouldn't dress up as a certain character (hell, an entire freaking genre of characters) because of their race, regardless of the race of the character being portrayed, that is racist.

I feel like dressing up as Garnet MacLaine from Dragonaut just to piss off someone.:cool:

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130219091922/dragonauttheresonance/images/0/07/Garnet_profile.jpg

I wonder if one of those racist Asians would get pissed if my dark-skinned big boobed western self cosplayed as a dark-skinned big boobed dragon/alien....I mean, she IS an anime character, after all.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

As for calling me as a troll are only mean they want to run away from the "truth" they can't accept because while calling me as troll they keep replying to my topic.

Well, I wouldn't really call you a troll...since you are presenting a divisive issue in a profoundly stupid fashion. Many trolls have passed through this forum, so nothing really surprises us now. Your argument (well, the presentation of it) is merely stupid.

None of your arguments make any sense with the way that you have presented them. And the only "proof" that you have are the words of racist Asians in some underground racist cosplay forum, where people hold the childish and pathetic notion that a bloody cartoon character can be "ruined" because someone with the "wrong" race freaking DARED to dress up as an effing cartoon character (again, the notion is laughable). People with mindsets like this usually wear pointed white hoods, avoid "brown" people, and carry more venereal diseases on them than a back alley brothel. They are not worth listening to.

And as long you think that there is no point in replying to a troll, you should know that that there is no point in continuing this racist tirade of yours since you aren't convincing anyone. So we are at an impasse. You won't believe that there are any good western cosplayers and we don't care about your opinion since it is idiotic.

Your call to continue...not that it means anything.

Animedude5555

02-27-2014, 05:42 PM

To the OP of this thread Kajune

http://i.imgur.com/GEg1p3W.jpg

Neptuneon

02-27-2014, 06:41 PM

The only interesting thing about this thread are all the references being made. THANK YOU dummies who insist on racist topics concerning anime. Not really. Ha. Ugh.

Meenah

02-27-2014, 06:49 PM

I don't give sh*ts of whoever cosplay. Cosplaying is for everyone. You can be Asian, white, black, whatever but by all means if you want to cosplay as any character, do it.

http://cosplayidol.otakuhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/537136_514043761976812_1820702031_n.jpg
I present you Dave Strider from the webcomic Homestuck. So, the cosplayer happens to be Asian. Canonically to most fans, Dave is white. However, Hussie did NOT give the kids of Homestuck their actual race. Followed by with the trolls body types, etc. In other words, why the hell would it matter of who will cosplay as who???

Cosplayers are just out there to have fun and be whoever they want to be. Not just to meet your needs.

Kajune

02-28-2014, 12:34 PM

Everyone should be free to have their own opinion, but I feel yours is very closed minded and ignorant. Firstly you claim that most other anime fans won't find western cosplayers appealing at all. Though if you were to go by the percentage from this topics posts alone you are already wrong.

Also I watched the video.. Scientifically proven, eh...? Ahhh, no! All they did was go to Google images and click on professional photographed Asian cosplays and random/home photographed western cosplays. If your going to go by the videos comments, they do seem to agree with you. Though the likes and dislikes showed 20 likes compared to 209 dislikes. Clearly there is a 189 people difference there, and a much higher rate of people who don't agree with what you or the video were saying.

You will find bad western cosplay and bad Asian cosplay. One is not better than the other, it's all how they go about it. Enough effort involved and anyone can look good.

First of all you don't know what scientific means. The method used on the video is using google image search engine which is a good image search engine who show its search results just the way they are without making its own opinion, as for its search results is based on how many x the image have been reposted and not based on how many x the keyword have been used. So the method is scientific and not an opinion based method that could be biased.

So even only using google image search engine will suffice to make it scientific because the result google image search generate are not opinion and the engine is also reliable [ any peoples who use it will get the same conclusion ].

As for the video with many dislikes is highly because the video posted in a western based site, if the video are to be posted in Asian based site then it would get more support.

This (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=800&bih=460&q=Chii+Cosplay&oq=Chii+Cosplay&gs_l=img.3..0l10.364537.366153.0.366377.12.8.0.0.0 .0.445.445.4-1.1.0....0...1ac.1.36.img..11.1.444.C815zhCGR9s) is using the same method used in the video, you claimed that the video only pick the best Asian cosplayers while the bad one for western cosplayers so now prove what you said by showing your so called "best western cosplayers" using the same method in the video.

This is one of the best Asian cosplayers cosplaying Chii I found using the scientific method in the video :
http://www.cosplaycutie.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/image_resizer/caeccd236d7b612e919ffc0b5b251463_full.jpg
Over 80000 peoples have reposted that Asian cosplayer picture (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbs=sbi%3AAMhZZiur09lklafSk9B9D3gOVjE7r6bgnbJ604Eo qBd7vrd3KJHBkFx5mtgw4e85lpNWEC-nxD60VAltWLOzRyGdCYZi9zq2AexD5cfIxUCPcCV2b1agnoKZh b7n1fDe4d34pDUsLlHGXk0zYTbhWlB6XNmb8P9wvr9hb8ff2If qz-ctNMwIYYs474NYChnT6F0T6fQoExCR&ei=TdQQU6rRJY6NrgfmnYG4Dw&ved=0CAoQiBw4Sw)

http://i64.servimg.com/u/f64/14/74/94/27/anb_co69.jpg
Over 100000 peoples have reposted that Asian cosplayer picture (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbs=sbi%3AAMhZZivDCttH-PNNQvDSGArotA8YRiEZ93GKvadotj5dzOSfRjmSyRmVgtJuApS oHC70a-hbdQt-9AD91skRbGlBkoRCDQIwJK6Sy0StPEYrHZ6b_1phzKb47Qt78c Frjo6bJXkkGJ_1MvFlJc2CV1g_1PmUpCUEJJf-ePnqGBelN2XoWaEdj6SRCJkuLLJKlW6VQYw4bXWKxr9&ei=RtMQU9PlOseTrgen4IHQCg&ved=0CAoQiBw44AE)

Anime fans just don't want to see the uncute and look too old version of the Anime characters they love, such as this western cosplayer :
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/046/1/a/Chii_Cosplay_I_by_Serenity_Sama.jpg
Only around 30 peoples who are willing to repost her fail Cosplay picuture and I'm sure they are losers [ the minority lose to the majority ] (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbs=sbi%3AAMhZZiuGvxqS_16uAWuZ3WJjfPOj4yhX8-Us8Gt2-ameN3y9arzPvzFQgCWFYW9lmsCnhHyeG01xSZiRBpqic8NVYtk 0oKaN9fXhhilWZcENBgex5oPDgyv7mPpEfuNYNwsxyosRO88kE lFoSgTkuvJF9k9WnzhlEItd0dTSIJcNJyQ8Ip7KtSZ9Z9vB2oi CaCg8JmWaD_1eMnI151FL1_1e6hKmxAOqt4ANg&ei=ONQQU6nZA8z_rAfMroDwBg&ved=0CAoQiBw4Sw)

DOOM!

02-28-2014, 12:36 PM

Funny thing is: japs cant tell the difference between one westerner and the the other; we look all the same to them. And they're likewise to us.

wolfgirl90

02-28-2014, 02:19 PM

So the method is scientific and not an opinion based method that could be biased.

True, it is not an opinion based method, however, it is not scientific and your opinions cloud your judgement. And since it is in short supply, I suggest you use it wisely.

Using Google search in this manner is FAR from "scientific". Google Images is tracking how many times an image has been reposted, not how many people have reposted the image. The same thing applies for YouTube videos. The fact that an image has several views and reposts is not an indicator of how popular or unpopular that image is, as far as actual opinion. It can point a user to a valid website, but not much more than that. I can repost a picture of Justin Bieber without liking him. Hell, this video of a deer farting in the woods has 2.6 MILLION views; it doesn't mean that deer farting suddenly became popular.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9GU4P-1AWI

Google is a good search engine, but it is far from perfect and things that aren't even relevant are included in an image search. There is A FREAKING DUCK included in that scientific search of yours! Get a clue!:laugh::laugh:

82124

Such results. Very scientific. Much relevant. Wow.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Only around 30 peoples who are willing to repost her fail Cosplay picuture and I'm sure they are losers [ the minority lose to the majority

Again, the amount of reposts is not a good indicator of how popular or unpopular a picture is, or rather, it doesn't indicate why that picture was reposted. It only means that it has been reposted a certain number of times or can be found in that many places. Okay, 30 "people" "reposted" her picture. Google can't tell you why 30 "people" "reposted" her picture, so you are making assumptions here.

Almost 78,000 "people" "reposted" the other picture. Why? Because it is good? Because she is Asian? Because they needed a picture of Chii? Because they wanted ideas for their next costume? Because they needed an avatar for their Facebook page? Because someone needed a picture to fap to? You don't know and Google can't tell you why. When you have to make assumptions to fill in the blanks, you are not using any sort of scientific method. You are guessing, making your own opinion, throwing crap at the walls to see if it sticks. Monkeys at the zoo do that, not rational people.

But ya know what? Let's step for a minute. Let me get philosophical for a moment. Everyone grab your thinking caps.....

Let's say the first image is the better one. Let's say that the fact that she is Asian allows her to play Chii better (you haven't said anything about that "flawed" Erwin Smith cosplay from earlier, but I digress). Let's say that Westerners tend to make anime characters look older.

....So....what? Is dressing up as character that important to anyone that they need to disparage others? Does making Chii look older ruin her character? Does it ruin Chobits? Even better, does it ruin the efforts of cosplayers who can do it better? Who KNOW that they can do better? If this fact is so obvious to others, why prove it with "scientific methods" (*giggle* *snort*)? Just cosplay as the character and get it over with. This racist mentality is similar to snotty high school girls who make fun of nerdy girls because they don't have the latest purse. Why bother when you have you wanted? Any racist thoughts one might have on Westerners won't stop anyone from dressing up as their favorite characters, so it is wasted effort trying to prove anything.

Also, those racist Asians can be proud of their race, they can make fun of Westerners, and have their own little underground forum to laugh. But I bet I can cosplay Urd from Ah! My Goddess better than they can.

http://cache.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/1086828-bigthumbnail.jpg

Why? Because of my FREAKING RACE!!

Oh snap! Holla at your wolf! BOOM!

Zainox

02-28-2014, 02:39 PM

Kajune

I could argue with you all week and it would be pointless, you're stuck on your close minded, racist views. Depending on what you have to say next, I may just end this here.

While I was searching to show you how wrong you truly are I came across this site - http://www.puricute.com/answers/2470
It's a site FULL of cosplays, both Asian and western. I scrolled through quite a bit and I would say a safe 95% of people there think both Asian and western cosplayers can look good. Despite of what you seem to think, your narrow minded thoughts are in the minority.

As for reposts. You're doing exactly what they were doing in the video, pointing out all the good asian cosplays and searching for the bad western ones. There IS good western cosplay out there, you just may have to do more than a simple Google Image search to find it. Unless you were not aware, cosplaying is VERY popular in Asian countries, compared to the slowly rising in popularity western countries. I will agree, there are alot of bad western ones out there though. But I say any effort is a good effort. It seems westerners are more willing to have fun and cosplay who they want in despite any comments they may recieve compared to Asians.

I have an image here of a western cosplaying Chii. Where I don't think she is as good as the one you have posted, (I am able to freely say this because I am not as closed minded as you) I do think she has done a damn good job in cosplaying this character.
Here is the link to here page too ~ http://ryuux3.deviantart.com/art/Chii-White-Shirt-312118466
This one was only reposted 94 times.

http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2012/184/f/3/chii_white_shirt_by_ryuux3-d55ts5e.jpg
Also as a heads up, with big images, chuck them in a spoiler tag like I have. Helps scrolling through the thread easier and it's loading times. [spoiler*] text here [/spoiler*] Without the *

I'm trying to be fair, being open minded and showing both sides of this argument while showing you how wrong you also are, but..

Only around 30 peoples who are willing to repost her fail Cosplay picuture and I'm sure they are losers [ the minority lose to the majority ]

This comment here just proves how much of an bigot you are.

In closing. Again, anyone can cosplay. It does help if you look the part, both by looks and physically. But I think cosplay is also about having fun, you shouldn't have to worry about people on hating on you. There are great cosplays of both, some easier to find than others, but they are out there.

Meenah

02-28-2014, 02:52 PM

Anime fans just don't want to see the uncute and look too old version of the Anime characters they love, such as this western cosplayer :
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/046/1/a/Chii_Cosplay_I_by_Serenity_Sama.jpg
Only around 30 peoples who are willing to repost her fail Cosplay picuture and I'm sure they are losers [ the minority lose to the majority ] (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbs=sbi%3AAMhZZiuGvxqS_16uAWuZ3WJjfPOj4yhX8-Us8Gt2-ameN3y9arzPvzFQgCWFYW9lmsCnhHyeG01xSZiRBpqic8NVYtk 0oKaN9fXhhilWZcENBgex5oPDgyv7mPpEfuNYNwsxyosRO88kE lFoSgTkuvJF9k9WnzhlEItd0dTSIJcNJyQ8Ip7KtSZ9Z9vB2oi CaCg8JmWaD_1eMnI151FL1_1e6hKmxAOqt4ANg&ei=ONQQU6nZA8z_rAfMroDwBg&ved=0CAoQiBw4Sw)

jfc You're a joke. So we all have to be Asian to be cosplaying the characters that are supposed to be cannon? I... I need a moment. I can't even. The complete bull that you're telling me about this "scientific" crap or whatever is merely more of an opinion than "scientifically proven". If you just don't like how one cosplay, it's none of YOUR concern. Why??? Cosplayers, once again are not there to satisfy your one needs but just to have fun. Just who cares?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/181925f17005f34d5fed150c177a1320/tumblr_mtltzns1xv1r79np8o1_500.jpg
Can you tell me the race of Yonejiro (http://yonejiro.tumblr.com/tagged/cosplay)?

http://mspaintadventures.com/storyfiles/hs2/scraps/jake_bigtext1.gif
That beautiful man is a western cosplayer!!

Zainox

02-28-2014, 03:03 PM

Feferi

Ahh, dammit! You said the western word, now you've ruined it for them. :P

Kajune

02-28-2014, 05:30 PM

Many peoples in here seem to think that argument using opinion will win against argument using scientific facts, they should learn how to accept reality.

What posted in puricute is opinions and most of its members are westerners who are into Asian fashions, I can show much more opinion against that but I don't argue using opinion alone but facts which can be proved sceintifically.

You can't prove the video wrong because all you can do is talk. No matter who the Anime characters is almost all Anime fans will only like Asian cosplayers, why else they prefer to post Asian cosplayers? Because they like western cosplayers and don't like Asian cosplayers? Mwahahaha

There is only 2 main reason why something is popular :
1. Because it is better, humans are born with the instinc to choose the best for them.
2. Because it is super bad, that peoples keep using as an example of how bad it is. For example I found a western cosplayer who Cosplay as Ayanami Rei who's picture have been reposted over 100000 peoples, but after reading the comment of the picture are clearly show of how super bad it is.

http://fotozup.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/funny_costumes_023-392x800.jpg
Over 100000 peoples have reposted that fail Cosplay picture (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbs=sbi%3AAMhZZisCfHvPX9PVwJ7ndRbnCQlE-QDuXz4g88JJDvia643xAtG26M-VcnIo3pYnYeAWRJx63yE4DnT69rJA9Ek-dELDfdNDrvkHa0j8n8_10ansQEGrOML_1u7CchKYbviAaVwLZE fkfhhRIs6crT5XCu7vpp3l7DIynaw27WWV5k7jQu9v9aAvqs9Q BS_1FFs54oM7j5U598-&ei=pBwRU_n0H8zhrAeIxIHIBQ&ved=0CAoQiBw4lQI), from all the comments I read on the first page all said how awful it is. Very different if you read the comments from the Asian cosplayers pictures I posted where that picture are put in good Cosplay, awesome Cosplay, real Anime characters, etc topic.

If opinion used on this, then it is western cosplayers the one who supposedly get the reason peoples still repost their Cosplay pictures is because it is super bad, which mean western cosplayers almost have no fans at all to support them on continuing cosplaying Anime/Asian characters so that they should stop cosplaying Anime/Asian characters because their action only hurting almost all Anime fans.

Zainox

02-28-2014, 06:36 PM

Many peoples in here seem to think that argument using opinion will win against argument using scientific facts, they should learn how to accept reality.

I find it funny that you seem to think that your side of this argument isn't opinionated theories. You are trying to argue with reposts and awful cosplays where the comment's clearly speak for themselves. The topic of this thread is based around peoples opinions, but you wont take into account of what opinions have to say because their opinionated and not 'scientific'? We come at you with evidence, but you brush it aside like your trying so hard to avoid the truth. There are good and bad cosplay of westerners out there, if you were able to pull your head out of your buttox you would notice this.

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/tdomf-2/449112/good-vs-bad.jpg

But hey, you seem to be an ignorant, bigot with no swaying opinion, so I'm outtie. I'm better off talking to a wall..
Have fun with the minority. o/

sunnyside

02-28-2014, 09:53 PM

And as long you think that there is no point in replying to a troll, you should know that that there is no point in continuing this racist tirade of yours since you aren't convincing anyone. So we are at an impasse. You won't believe that there are any good western cosplayers and we don't care about your opinion since it is idiotic.

Um. Actually the point of most trolls is just to gain satisfaction by getting people worked up, upset, or ideally getting them to break forum rules and get banned. They may not even believe what they're posting.

Continue if you find it interesting though, just FYI.

if my dark-skinned big boobed western self cosplayed as a dark-skinned big boobed dragon/alien....I mean, she IS an anime character, after all.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Then we all win :)

Kajune

02-28-2014, 10:22 PM

http://s4.postimage.org/8hi5rmw8d/Only_Asians_Can_Cosplay_2.jpg
The Asian cosplayer looks like in her teen while the western looks like in her 30's, not because Asian cosplayers who Cosplay Anime/Asian characters are younger by age but because Asians born with youthful genetics.

This is 2 of the main reasons why almost all Anime fans prefer Asian cosplayers, other than look youthful or much younger than real age Asians are also cute, not simply cute but the same cuteness as Anime characters cuteness because Anime characters are made by Asians based on Asians so the cuteness also reflect Asians cuteness.

Anime Forum

02-28-2014, 10:44 PM

Kajune

02-28-2014, 10:47 PM

I once doing the scientific method shown on the video on Yoruichi from Bleach and again the result turns out Asian cosplayers still preferred by Anime fans to Cosplay, that is logical because only her skin look dark while her appearance still look like other typical Anime characters which are based on Asians appearance.

How about you? Have you done the method on any Anime/Asian characters you believe to be based on westerners?

Anime Forum

02-28-2014, 11:57 PM

Hanamaru Kunikida

03-01-2014, 12:03 AM

Cosplaying is serious business.

/thread

Whatever happened to "don't feed the troll?"

//thread

Then again, I don't think he's trolling.

Stupidity, elitism, racism, perfectionism, ignorance exist in the world anyway.

wolfgirl90

03-01-2014, 01:53 AM

If opinion used on this, then it is western cosplayers the one who supposedly get the reason peoples still repost their Cosplay pictures is because it is super bad, which mean western cosplayers almost have no fans at all to support them on continuing cosplaying Anime/Asian characters so that they should stop cosplaying Anime/Asian characters because their action only hurting almost all Anime fans.

It is a good thing I am not drinking at the moment; I would have spit beer all over my monitor. And please stop using hyperbole.

Wasn't the assumption of opinions something that I just said? That Google can only tell you how many sites have posted a picture, not the reason why? Nice that you have figured this out. And when Google decides that a good Chii cosplayer is visually similar to a duck, there is nothing scientific about it.:rolleyes:

Also, no one cares. Look at this pic:

http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/sailor_moon_man_cosplay.jpg

Do you think he cares about your opinion? About anyone else's opinion? Of course he doesn't. You could make fun of him on a forum, but he will still dress up as Sailor Moon the next day. But I guess he gets brownie points for being Asian, right?:rolleyes:

If you say yes, in ANY way, you are officially a troll and we can close this thread here and now.

How about this Faye Valentine cosplayer?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MQquAuiuf4k/S7ZImYYAMbI/AAAAAAAAAac/3FkMsXb6-zI/s320/bad_cosplay_2.jpg

Do you think he cares? If someone said that he was "ruining" Faye, would he care? Would he stop? Would Cowboy Bebop stop being good because of a few crappy cosplayers? Hell no.

At the end of the day, anime is nothing but Japanese cartoons. They can still be enjoyed even if a bunch of people make crappy cosplay. When people decide that race is a factor in any fashion in what amounts to a public game of dress-up, then they have lost their minds. This type of bullying is usually only done in high schools, but I guess some people haven't grown up when they decide that only a certain group should dress up as bloody cartoon characters.

While racist Asians laugh at Western cosplayers, Western cosplayers will continue to not give a damn. It is wasted energy, really.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j182/swiftian/0_0_010109/031109/unnecessaryracism.jpg

I wish that the only pain I felt in my life (one that was so strong that I would make a website about it) was the pain from looking at Westerners do bad cosplay. However, I am a grown woman, and as such, I bigger issues and problems in my life. I guess those kids are lucky if they only give a crap about cartoon character dress up. Seems important. Seems legit.:unsure:

Kajune

03-01-2014, 07:16 PM

http://www.cosplaycutie.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/image_resizer/caeccd236d7b612e919ffc0b5b251463_full.jpg
Over 80000 peoples have reposted this Asian cosplayer picture (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbs=sbi%3AAMhZZiur09lklafSk9B9D3gOVjE7r6bgnbJ604Eo qBd7vrd3KJHBkFx5mtgw4e85lpNWEC-nxD60VAltWLOzRyGdCYZi9zq2AexD5cfIxUCPcCV2b1agnoKZh b7n1fDe4d34pDUsLlHGXk0zYTbhWlB6XNmb8P9wvr9hb8ff2If qz-ctNMwIYYs474NYChnT6F0T6fQoExCR&ei=TdQQU6rRJY6NrgfmnYG4Dw&ved=0CAoQiBw4Sw) <--- the numbers come from science and not opinion.

As for what google image search engine found, I have said it is reliable so that it can be used to prove something scientifically because all the images found by the search engine is exactly the same, 1 picture of a girl will never be mistaken as a picture of a boy or another girl by the search engine, prove this wrong if you can or keep trying to run away from the truth you don't like of Anime fans especially Japanese not like western cosplayers.

The most dumbest thing about this is if google image search engine really did make mistake then should not the repost numbers for western cosplayers will be as high as Asian cosplayers? Mwahahaha some peoples just never think when they speak especially when they get jealous and angry about something.