Water is Poisonous

[Naughty Dog]

Water distributed within cities and towns contains additives which do not occur naturally in the body, like fluoride. Therefore, it is poisonous.

Discuss.

[blueangel06661]

Toothpaste/mouthwash has floride?

Wanna know something uber cool? HUMANS ARE RADIOACTIVE.. Just thought you should know..

[DeathBlade/13.666]

It does not occur naturally in the body huh? Then explain how fluoride helps build tooth enamel in which calcium can't do.

[.:neuko:.]

It's old news; they've been putting drugs in the water supply to control people for years.

Btw; you think that's air you're breathing?

[marvelangga]

Water distributed within cities and towns contains additives which do not occur naturally in the body, like fluoride. Therefore, it is poisonous.
Not everything that doesn't occur naturally in the body is harmful. Essential amino acids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_amino_acids) don't occur naturally, but you NEED them. Here are other elements essential to a human body (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composition_of_the_human_body#Essential_elements_o n_the_periodic_table). Nevertheless, Fluoride is indeed toxic especially at significant concentrations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_toxicity).


It does not occur naturally in the body huh? Then explain how fluoride helps build tooth enamel in which calcium can't do.
Both Fluoride and Calcium are necessary for the remineralization of teeth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remineralisation_of_teeth). Here's the mechanism (http://www.animeforum.com/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_therapy#Mechanism).


Toothpaste/mouthwash has floride?

Wanna know something uber cool? HUMANS ARE RADIOACTIVE.. Just thought you should know..
Fluoride therapy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_therapy) works topically, i.e. you don't intake Fluoride orally for it to work. And technically, everything is radioactive to some degree (http://www.iem-inc.com/prevery.html).

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By the way, I'm a chemical engineer.

[Naughty Dog]

but it does not occur naturally in the body.

so it is poisonous.

[DeathBlade/13.666]

Both Fluoride and Calcium are necessary for the remineralization of teeth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remineralisation_of_teeth). Here's the mechanism (http://www.animeforum.com/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_therapy#Mechanism).
Mechanism hyperlink no-worky.

Also, if you're a chemical engineer, Can you do something about replacing the chemicals like methyl ethyl ketone or methyl propyl ketone with something just as effective and won't destroy kidneys and livers? :D I'd really enjoy not being killed by chemicals in a dangerous-enough-as-it-is-already kind of job.

[.:neuko:.]

but it does not occur naturally in the body.

so it is poisonous.

Then by your logic, salt would be poisonous too. Why not stop eating that for a few days and see what happens?

[Syaoran]

Bathing in poison, woo!

[nslay]

This reminds me of Squidbillies episode: Young, Dumb and Full of Gums.


In the end, their teeth fell out, oral hygiene products were outlawed, and everyone had to employ Dan Halen's chewing service (like birds do for their young).


And DeathBlade/13.666 suggests this type of show is of a 6 year old's intellect ... :wink:

In all seriousness though, since so much toothpaste already includes fluoride, we probably don't need fluoridated water anymore. But fluoridated water really did us a huge service in the past!

[DeathBlade/13.666]

This reminds me of Squidbillies episode: Young, Dumb and Full of Gums.


In the end, their teeth fell out, oral hygiene products were outlawed, and everyone had to employ Dan Halen's chewing service (like birds do for their young).


And DeathBlade/13.666 suggests this type of show is of a 6 year old's intellect ... :wink:

In all seriousness though, since so much toothpaste already includes fluoride, we probably don't need fluoridated water anymore. But fluoridated water really did us a huge service in the past!
Damn scraight it is. >/ J/K.
Still there are a lot of folks that only brush once or not at all out there.

[Naughty Dog]

I can't believe people thought I was serious.

Learn how to take a joke or distinguish troll posts from actual posts. I did this after I saw a lot of you take "Let's ban anime from AF" seriously, and wanted to see just how many people would fall for another trolling. Get a grip, Miscellaneous Miscellany.

[marvelangga]

Mechanism hyperlink no-worky.

Also, if you're a chemical engineer, Can you do something about replacing the chemicals like methyl ethyl ketone or methyl propyl ketone with something just as effective and won't destroy kidneys and livers? :D I'd really enjoy not being killed by chemicals in a dangerous-enough-as-it-is-already kind of job.
Oh, sorry 'bout that. Here's the fixed one (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_therapy#Mechanism).

Unfortunately, my current job won't allow me to replace a product's ingredients. It usually takes civil awareness and effort to force a company's R&D group to opt to safer alternatives. But according to EWG.org (a highly reliable and trusted source), Methyl ethyl ketone (http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ingredient/703892/METHYL_ETHYL_KETONE/) is currently not found to be that dangerous. I could just recommend that you minimize your exposure as much as you can.

[DeathBlade/13.666]

Oh, sorry 'bout that. Here's the fixed one (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_therapy#Mechanism).

Unfortunately, my current job won't allow me to replace a product's ingredients. It usually takes civil awareness and effort to force a company's R&D group to opt to safer alternatives. But according to EWG.org (a highly reliable and trusted source), Methyl ethyl ketone (http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ingredient/703892/METHYL_ETHYL_KETONE/) is currently not found to be that dangerous. I could just recommend that you minimize your exposure as much as you can.Well I mostly use Methyl propyl ketone, but for my job they are interchangeable as a solvent. Still the MSDS we have says different.

[Kaleohano]

this is freaking stupid. Just because the body doesn't naturally generate it, does not make it poisonous. By the logic you're using, Iron, potassium, and zinc would all be "poisons." And the body doesn't work without them. Therefore, you're dumb.

http://i.qkme.me/3qey3j.jpg

[.:neuko:.]

Learn how to take a joke or distinguish troll posts from actual posts.

Nothing like playing the troll card at the last minute when you're losing an argument...

[International 4-8818]

I feel like you originally did not intend to troll. It's ok to admit you made a bad thread. We all do. We.... alll... have... done.... it......brohttp://i.imgur.com/zFsLvnY.gif

[marvelangga]

Well I mostly use Methyl propyl ketone, but for my job they are interchangeable as a solvent. Still the MSDS we have says different.
The properties of Methyl propyl ketone is not very different from Methyl ethyl ketone (since only the ethyl substituent is replaced with propyl; the latter is just a carbon longer than the former). If your MSDS is well-documented, then you have a reason to believe it.

[nslay]

this is freaking stupid. Just because the body doesn't naturally generate it, does not make it poisonous. By the logic you're using, Iron, potassium, and zinc would all be "poisons." And the body doesn't work without them. Therefore, you're dumb.



Now, if each person consumes one banana, how many people would be needed in, say, one square kilometre to generate enough radiation to kill everyone in the area by way of banana consumption alone?

[Naughty Dog]

It's not a case of pulling the troll card at the last second, it's a case of seeing how many people would respond seriously to something stupid.

I don't like to drink just tap water (it does make me gag) but I know it's not poisonous. If things not naturally generated by the body were poisonous, a lot of people would not make it past infancy. Hell, I'm on my second can of Coke right now - if my claim of artificial chemicals being poison was true, I'd be getting my stomach pumped.

I used the same argument the second time I posted. It's the same argument. I was doing it to hopefully frustrate someone. This whole thread was a trolling attempt, and yet you still take my word seriously. This is what I'm talking about - if someone posts something stupid, either as a joke or to mess with people, some people take it seriously. It's ridiculous.

[Zainox]

http://i.imgur.com/zFsLvnY.gif

WTF is that!? D:
Burn it with fire!!!

[DeathBlade/13.666]

The properties of Methyl propyl ketone is not very different from Methyl ethyl ketone (since only the ethyl substituent is replaced with propyl; the latter is just a carbon longer than the former). If your MSDS is well-documented, then you have a reason to believe it.Right which is why our tech data and processes list the two together (Like so: MEK/MPK). And Boeing assures me our MSDS's are well documented for OSHA regulations, EPA regulations, SHEA regulations, and FAA regulations. On that note. Save my kidneys! ;.; Also having less chemicals that are known carcinogens to work with would be nice too.

[aether]

Toothpaste/mouthwash has floride?

Wanna know something uber cool? HUMANS ARE RADIOACTIVE.. Just thought you should know..

Also if you eat 1000 bananas you risk a higher chance from dying from radiation poisonin, it's a true fact btw

[.:neuko:.]

This is what I'm talking about - if someone posts something stupid, either as a joke or to mess with people, some people take it seriously.

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/fgAImk7PCf0/0.jpg

Ah, so your post was meant as a joke all this time? How silly of me not to notice.

[Meenah]

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Landdwwellers!

[Kaleohano]

Now, if each person consumes one banana, how many people would be needed in, say, one square kilometre to generate enough radiation to kill everyone in the area by way of banana consumption alone?

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[DOOM!]

Keep drinkin it; your jewish dentist says it makes your teeef whiter, and you're no anti-semite, are you?

[KyouFalls]

lolwut?

[aether]

http://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/c4/17/c4178a_279518.jpg

To be honest I think I'd be more worried about one of these creepers poisoning me than water

[GuiltySpark]

You can overdose on water. Its called drowning.

[Deviate]

Water is only dangerous when it is over consumed. When over consumed it causes a condition that is called hyponatremia, in which excess water flushes too much sodium out of the body. Sodium is one of the human body's most important electrolytes and is necessary for proper muscle and nerve function. Severe symptoms of this condition include seizures, coma, and death.

Which is why we have Gatorade, PowerAde, and other sports drinks.

[nslay]

http://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/c4/17/c4178a_279518.jpg

To be honest I think I'd be more worried about one of these creepers poisoning me than water
Camel spiders don't have venom :(

[aether]

Camel spiders don't have venom :(

But an open wound can still become infected if not treated properly therefore a poison to the body

[OminousCloud]

Water distributed within cities and towns contains additives which do not occur naturally in the body, like fluoride. Therefore, it is poisonous.

Discuss.

Kind of an ambiguous statement. Exactly what method of distribution are you referring?

Regardless, pure water has the capacity to act as a poison when consumed in vast excesses. Similarly, anything added to water can have the same effect depending on dosage regardless of whether it is naturally produced in the body or otherwise. Directly correlating that a substance not made in the body would therefore poison it, is false.

Also, getting angry at people for doing what the thread says i.e. discussing the topic, is stupid, even if you are trolling.


Mechanism hyperlink no-worky.

Also, if you're a chemical engineer, Can you do something about replacing the chemicals like methyl ethyl ketone or methyl propyl ketone with something just as effective and won't destroy kidneys and livers? :D I'd really enjoy not being killed by chemicals in a dangerous-enough-as-it-is-already kind of job.

Butanone isn't that bad, but how exactly are you using it? Don't be drinking it, bro!

[DeathBlade/13.666]

Butanone isn't that bad, but how exactly are you using it? Don't be drinking it, bro!Cleaning solvent. I wipe things squeaky clean with it. And I try not to drink it, but apparently I shouldn't let it spill on me either.

[Eris]

Water distributed within cities and towns contains additives which do not occur naturally in the body, like fluoride. Therefore, it is poisonous.

Discuss.

It does not occur in the body, but it does occur (along with other minerals) in water. Tap water has unusually *few* of these things.

[OminousCloud]

Water distributed within cities and towns contains additives which do not occur naturally in the body, like fluoride. Therefore, it is poisonous.

Discuss.


Cleaning solvent. I wipe things squeaky clean with it. And I try not to drink it, but apparently I shouldn't let it spill on me either.

Ah, wear butanone compatible gloves then.

[DeathBlade/13.666]

Ah, wear butanone compatible gloves then. Yea... That's another part of my problem... If the stuff wasn't unsafe enough, the safety gear is a pain in the rear to deal with. @.@ I spend 15-30 minutes just trying to put on the gloves they provide.

[Kaleohano]

Also if you eat 1000 bananas you risk a higher chance from dying from radiation poisonin, it's a true fact btw

may i throw you in the reactor compartment of my Aircraft Carrier during my next tour? I wish to teach you a little something about radiation.

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Yea... That's another part of my problem... If the stuff wasn't unsafe enough, the safety gear is a pain in the rear to deal with. @.@ I spend 15-30 minutes just trying to put on the gloves they provide.

you could do gloves, or just go "F**K it, YOLO Swagg!" and just kinda f**k it yolo swagg. Know whut i'm sayin?

[aether]

may i throw you in the reactor compartment of my Aircraft Carrier during my next tour? I wish to teach you a little something about radiation.

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you could do gloves, or just go "F**K it, YOLO Swagg!" and just kinda f**k it yolo swagg. Know whut i'm sayin?

Much rather you didn't

[Kaleohano]

Much rather you didn't

you'll like it. its warm and fairly humid. Sorta like a jungle. Only without any animals...or anything "living" for that matter.

[DeathBlade/13.666]

may i throw you in the reactor compartment of my Aircraft Carrier during my next tour? I wish to teach you a little something about radiation.

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you could do gloves, or just go "F**K it, YOLO Swagg!" and just kinda f**k it yolo swagg. Know whut i'm sayin?Pshaw, it's just an oversized steam engine! And yea... I still use the gloves. *wink, wink, nudge, nudge* XD Actually I do use them when I have to.

[aether]

you'll like it. its warm and fairly humid. Sorta like a jungle. Only without any animals...or anything "living" for that matter.

No thanks, I'm rather partial to living

[Kaleohano]

No thanks, I'm rather partial to living

you dont die immediately upon walking in. If you're in there for roughly 5-6 minutes, you'll still have a roughly one week left :)
and for that week, you'll be able to tell people what its like to feel your atoms get rearranged and the elements that make up your body change. how cool would that be?

[aether]

you dont die immediately upon walking in. If you're in there for roughly 5-6 minutes, you'll still have a roughly one week left :)
and for that week, you'll be able to tell people what its like to feel your atoms get rearranged and the elements that make up your body change. how cool would that be?

I'd rather live for 100 years than just 1 week

[Kaleohano]

Pshaw, it's just an oversized steam engine!

and as long as the rest of the world sees it that way, i will continue to have a lucrative job. Hot rock make steam boat go. Hotter rock make steam boat go faster!


And yea... I still use the gloves. *wink, wink, nudge, nudge* XD Actually I do use them when I have to.

use them when you have to? Your yolo swagg level just dropped below 9000, sir.

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I'd rather live for 100 years than just 1 week

but that one week would be such a special week, wouldn't you agree? Think about how few F**ks you'd have to give about anything...Think of the powah!!!

[DeathBlade/13.666]

and as long as the rest of the world sees it that way, i will continue to have a lucrative job. Hot rock make steam boat go. Hotter rock make steam boat go faster! Still can't beat my engines with the efficiency of that Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow.




use them when you have to? Your yolo swagg level just dropped below 9000, sir.Either you don't have any quality people to ensure you're doing your job, or you truly have no idea what I mean. Either way, it's a good thing I don't care/bother/look at my yolo swagg levels.

[Kaleohano]

Still can't beat my engines with the efficiency of that Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow.

Efficiency? little less than 100kg of fuel is enough to move a 100,000ton ship at full power for 30 years. I love the suck, squeeze, bang, blow, but efficiency goes to the steam boat, i think. lol


Either you don't have any quality people to ensure you're doing your job, or you truly have no idea what I mean. Either way, it's a good thing I don't care/bother/look at my yolo swagg levels.

you don't???? oh my guuurrrrrd!

[darksky967]

I hate water.

[aether]

and as long as the rest of the world sees it that way, i will continue to have a lucrative job. Hot rock make steam boat go. Hotter rock make steam boat go faster!



use them when you have to? Your yolo swagg level just dropped below 9000, sir.

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but that one week would be such a special week, wouldn't you agree? Think about how few F**ks you'd have to give about anything...Think of the powah!!!

Nope think of the power I would be able to wield if I lived for a 100 years I could discover the secrets to immortality during that time and therefore live forever

[Kaleohano]

Nope think of the power I would be able to wield if I lived for a 100 years I could discover the secrets to immortality during that time and therefore live forever

or you could be stuck in a old people home, wearing a diaper, eating nothing but soup because you have no teeth, and watching TV with other senile old people.

[Sympathy]

you're poisuuuuun

you're poison runnin' though my veins

you're poisuuuuun

[aether]

or you could be stuck in a old people home, wearing a diaper, eating nothing but soup because you have no teeth, and watching TV with other senile old people.

Or I could get myself some false teeth and besides if I'm watching tv I could be watching anime all the time so its not all bad being stuck with other senile folk, perhaps they wouldn't even bother asking dumb questions because they would have forgotten there was another person sitting near them. Wearing a nappy on the other hand (the UK equiv of the diaper) might be a tad inconvenient but then again it would save having to keep getting up to go to the toilet.

[Naughty Dog]

Kind of an ambiguous statement. Exactly what method of distribution are you referring?

Regardless, pure water has the capacity to act as a poison when consumed in vast excesses. Similarly, anything added to water can have the same effect depending on dosage regardless of whether it is naturally produced in the body or otherwise. Directly correlating that a substance not made in the body would therefore poison it, is false.

Also, getting angry at people for doing what the thread says i.e. discussing the topic, is stupid, even if you are trolling.

You're right. I screwed right up. I've been feeling crappy about it since I made the thread.

Glad you're enjoying the thread guys. Sorry for being a douchenozzle.

[Tenrou Nogitsune]

This thread needs to be closed.

[Genghis Beatrix]

You can overdose on water. Its called drowning.
lolnope. It's not drowning sillies. It's dilutional hyponatremia.