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Eris
07-11-2004, 12:21 PM
Every single page i visit on the forums spawns a popup. A large localized popup (text is in swedish, advertises "NKL Jackpot" or some such, covers half my screen)... in a new window every time. :angry:

Now that's REALLY annoying.

Daenerys
07-11-2004, 04:48 PM
Weird, I've been using IE for almost two months now since I lost AOL (Which has popupblocker) and the only pop ups I get are Private Messages.

wizz-o-matic
07-11-2004, 05:18 PM
Hm, no pop-ups for me (Firefox is blocking them).

Jakiao
07-11-2004, 07:48 PM
I've been surfing the forums all day and I haven't had a single popup. If you -do- get a popup, just to be safe, take a screen cap and email it to me or something.

wizz-o-matic
07-12-2004, 01:38 PM
Ok, this is what got (when turning off my pop-up blocker)

Firstly it just appeard as a blank (white) new window, but after several pop-ups I got this.

Edit: Ah, and I got this when right clicking on the image

Link Propreties
Address: http://servedby.advertising.com/click/site...T0/bnum=1103608 (http://servedby.advertising.com/click/site=0000087724/mnum=0000112946/genr=1/tkdt=B0P1R1T0/bnum=1103608)
Will Open in: New window

Image Propreties
Location: http://cdn2.adsdk.com/CDN/45283/int_720x300.jpg
Width: 720px
Height: 300px
Size of File: 14.02 KB (14353 bytes)
Alternate Text: Click to learn more...

Jakiao
07-12-2004, 04:32 PM
So, there are popups, or what spawns them? I have yet to get a popup ... ((which is normally the case for some reason)).

Normally, Ace or Minako get the brunt of it and message me; I've yet to get a complaint from either.

And, in the past, only AdTegrity would spawn popups ... advertising.com has -never- caused issue.

Well ... I'll go yell at some of the staff at ClickHype ...

Edit > Wiz: could you tell me at what time of the day the popup occured?

Washiko
07-12-2004, 05:14 PM
I know that, at one point, I was getting popups, but it had nothing to do with the sites that I was accessing. As a matter of fact, there was a parasite in my server that made a popup appear on nearly all of the websites I accessed. Luckily, I was able to quash it with my anti-viris... you might want to check that out.

wizz-o-matic
07-12-2004, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by EternalJupiterKnight@Jul 12 2004, 11:32 PM
Edit > Wiz: could you tell me at what time of the day the popup occured?
Just some minutes before my last post.

I took the screenshot and immediately posted it here.

Edit: ok, I've just got another pop-up, this time this one (also from advertising.com)
Edit2: the same pop-ups shows also on ag.net

MistressPookyChan
07-12-2004, 08:28 PM
my pop-up blocker blocks the occassional AG pop-ups. What I have gotten is adware from the ads and they have embedded themselves into my comp, creating pop-ups anytime i go on the internet. Adaware fixes it, though... but still gets annoying.

Jakiao
07-12-2004, 08:32 PM
That adware issue last month was actually executed across all major advertisement companies. Someone found a way to sneak in the code to companeis such as ClickHype, DoubleClick, ValueClick, and various others. That is not what is happening now.

Himura Enishi
07-12-2004, 08:39 PM
I dont know about anyone else, but when I'm browsing wp at animewallpaper.com, I get destroyed with popups, and the 'you must click yes to view thie site' thing

Jakiao
07-12-2004, 08:41 PM
AnimeWallPapers.com website has nothing to do with our website codes. They have their own popup codes that they willingly place on the sites.

Regex
07-12-2004, 08:42 PM
I have been using no sort of popup blocker whatsoever, and i haven't gotten any form of popups on these sites in quite some time. Some number of months, i'm certain. I have to say, more than likely, what you are seeing is a result of some sort of spyware installed from some other source. I can't think of any other reason for you to be getting popups, but others do not. Watch what other sites you go to that tend to put things like that on your system. (Specifically you with the Swedish popups. That seems to go along with my theory as well)

Jakiao
07-12-2004, 08:45 PM
I have to agree partly with Aaron. I too have no popup blocking software, and I have always gotten popups when they were actually on the sites.

At any rate, I've contacted ClickHype just to make sure it is them. The URL of the banner Wizzard put up, I know the advertisement company. Advertising.com has NEVER been a problem ever in my memory. However, adsdk.com is a constant problem, but they are not associated with ClickHype as ClickHype cancelled their service over two months ago.

wizz-o-matic
07-13-2004, 03:33 AM
Hm, I don't think that's a spyware problem. I have ad-watch monitoring and blocking my comp and I've also run Ad-Aware (and it didn't find anything).

Oh, and those pop-ups shows only on animeglobe and animegalleries, haven't seen them on other sites.

Eris
07-13-2004, 08:17 AM
Took a few screencaps. Localized popups. One even tried to install spyware onto my box (but since i run Linux it didn't know what to do with the .exe :-)

And it's no adware problem. I get them on my solaris box as well... and the day there are adware for solaris something has gone seriously wrong.

Eris
07-13-2004, 08:19 AM
Ah, here is the spyware-shot: (sry about the dp)

Eris
07-13-2004, 08:28 AM
I get this ad all the time. (sry about the tp)

Princess Minako
07-13-2004, 11:31 AM
Usually I'm the first to report popups and I haven't gotten any, I'm afraid its not from our forums. If anything with the amount that I'm going thru all of the forums, on all of the sites and all of the galleries I'd hit em sometime. I'm afraid thats from somewhere else, sorry. ;_;

The Goddess has Spoken

Jakiao
07-13-2004, 11:57 AM
The whole that that you got a German popup tells me it can't be ClickHype. THe only place German popups exist on ClickHype is for one publisher who does German traffic and nobody else. Besides; since you don't live in Germany, you'd never see anything German. ClickHype geo-targets ads; this means that if you live in America, you see only American ad's, and if you live in Germany then you only see German ads.

Try clearing out your cache. I know that when we ran a test for another company, they thought we were okay with popups and ran then until I asked to have them removed. You may be loading a cached version of the site with their code still on the pages.

Eris
07-13-2004, 12:14 PM
Renamed .mozilla/ to .foobar/ (the definitive .xpi and cache remover) and is till got popups.
And it's Swedish ads, not german.

The latest:

Jakiao
07-13-2004, 12:17 PM
The next time you get a popup, would you right click on it and get its properties? I'd love to know where it is coming from.

Eris
07-13-2004, 12:34 PM
GLB Networks: URL: http://c5.zedo.com/jsc/c5/ff2.html?n=376;c...;s=9;w=468;h=60 (http://c5.zedo.com/jsc/c5/ff2.html?n=376;c=35/1;s=9;w=468;h=60)


CONGRATULATIONS:
URL: http://64.74.193.30/osting/htmlads/starz4life6/index.html
Referrer: http://c5.zedo.com/jsc/c5/ff2.html?n=376;c...;s=9;w=468;h=60 (http://c5.zedo.com/jsc/c5/ff2.html?n=376;c=35/1;s=9;w=468;h=60)

Daenerys
07-14-2004, 02:46 AM
I still haven't gotten any, that's weird.

Eris
07-14-2004, 08:32 AM
I only get them when i use mozilla. Not konqueror. On the other hand konqueror is a worthless heap of junk that probably can't open a popup in any case.

Regex
07-14-2004, 08:40 AM
Your problem clearly is that you need to switch to Windows.

All joking aside, the Swedish ad that you mentioned is what makes me believe it's some sort of spyware. Because that's localized to what the software knows about you (i.e. you are Swedish) It's not from our site.

And honestly, how you can stand browsing using a Linux client is beyond me. Even me with my Linux boxes, i use my Windows machine when doing any sort of web design or graphics or gaming or...

Well, you get the idea. Mozilla suxx0r omg omg omg

Eris
07-14-2004, 08:58 AM
Originally posted by Member Name@Jul 14 2004, 07:40 PM
Your problem clearly is that you need to switch to Windows.

All joking aside, the Swedish ad that you mentioned is what makes me believe it's some sort of spyware. Because that's localized to what the software knows about you (i.e. you are Swedish) It's not from our site.

And honestly, how you can stand browsing using a Linux client is beyond me. Even me with my Linux boxes, i use my Windows machine when doing any sort of web design or graphics or gaming or...

Well, you get the idea. Mozilla suxx0r omg omg omg
The only problem with that idea is that i don&#39;t have any kind of internationalization enabled (since i think that sucks and all interfaces should be in English), so there is no way the spyware would know this box is located in Sweden. Besides, the rigorous security measures i take on my *nix boxes prevents spyware from affecting the entire operating system, yet still i get spyware when i run with uid & gid guest (no home directory, no write access >anywhere<, no place for the spyware to reside, yet still localized advertising).

There are a lot of advertising sites that uses geo-ip to determine which localized advertising to show (try surfing the web through this java-anon proxy (dutchland i think) http://anon.inf.tu-dresden.de/index_en.html) and you will see what i mean), so i don&#39;t believe the language proves anything.

The reason i don&#39;t use Windows is that i don&#39;t like the idea of having to download security patches and use anti virus programs all the time. Feels so insecure. And that Windows is the programmers hell. No man-pages, no C compiler, GUI API from hell, no OS sources, no nothing. :ph34r:

Regex
07-14-2004, 11:49 AM
Cookies are a huge part of it.

I don&#39;t know anything about your configuration, or when such spyware-type applications may have been installed to your machine. It&#39;s very possible it&#39;s some sort of Mozilla exploit that you&#39;re missing. After all, the open source scene has just as many security patches as Windows does. All i can say is that it doesn&#39;t happen for me.. The ad company for the sites is being monitored closely after those really annoying ads we had gotten.

Oh, and sure, programmers love the embedded compilers and open source, but you can&#39;t ignore how easy Microsoft made DirectX. That&#39;s the one thing they did right. The only thing they need is a much, MUCH better documentation on using the API.

And maybe a more stable, more secure OS.
User security isn&#39;t quite as much of an issue, since they sacrificed that for user-friendliness. It&#39;s a trade off that i think was correct.

But i digress, that&#39;s a different topic. My rantings to join the Microsoft side were mostly jokes.

Jakiao
07-14-2004, 12:00 PM
Using a proxy has nothing to do with it. Spyware can be set to bring up popups for a region. If you resolve to Dutchland, then the banners will come for that region, which you are included in.

Nobody from America or anywhere else except for your site of the planet is getting popups.

Now, unless the sites are designed to popup just for your and Wizzy, there are no popups coming from us.

Eris
07-14-2004, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by Member Name@Jul 14 2004, 10:49 PM
Cookies are a huge part of it.

I don&#39;t know anything about your configuration, or when such spyware-type applications may have been installed to your machine. It&#39;s very possible it&#39;s some sort of Mozilla exploit that you&#39;re missing. After all, the open source scene has just as many security patches as Windows does. All i can say is that it doesn&#39;t happen for me.. The ad company for the sites is being monitored closely after those really annoying ads we had gotten.

You obviously wasn&#39;t reading me, i get popups even if i run mozilla out of the box in a sandbox environment (where it is impossible to add or modify mozilla, receive cookies or anything like that).

If i do like this:

kill all processes but the residual kernel processes, sh, init and X
create folder /tmp/sandbox
create folder /tmp/sandbox/mozilla/
extract fresh mozilla from mozilla.org in /tmp/sandbox/mozilla and staticly link it to my current libs
chown -w -R /tmp/sandbox
chroot to /tmp/sandbox, UID & GID 1024 (non-existant user)
clean all env variables except DISPLAY
execute mozilla and go straight to animeglobe

i STILL get popups even though I&#39;m in a completely sterile environment with NO possibility of adware or spyware what so ever. And besides, i don&#39;t get any popups anywhere else, so unless there is a specific adware for AG..?

Regex
07-14-2004, 12:33 PM
I read what you said. I know what you said. But the facts remain. I get no popups, in an environment where anything is allowed to run. You get popus in your environment that you are sure is completely clean. The popups are not spawning for any of us. Just you and one other member. Something is different, and from all the research Ejk has done on this advertising company that he works for, he can see nothing to support the idea that they came from us or ClickHype.

Jakiao
07-14-2004, 01:52 PM
I have researched this problem into the core of ClickHype. There is absolutely NO popup inventory for your region of the world. We have Japense, American/Canadian, and UK popups available. Nothing else is available currently, that includes Sweedish popups.

I am sorry, but this is not coming from us. Case closed.

Eris
07-14-2004, 04:13 PM
Aha&#33; Now i got this popup in konqueror as well, http://www.animeglobe.com/ubb/index.php?sh...indpost&p=66234 (http://www.animeglobe.com/ubb/index.php?showtopic=3901&view=findpost&p=66234)

So, unless there is some new cross browser spyware i&#39;m unaware of it does emit from this site.

wizz-o-matic
07-14-2004, 04:34 PM
Hm, the pop-ups stoped showing on my comp,
Duno how but I don&#39;t see any red "&#33;" in my left lower corner anymore (which means that Firefox stoped a pop-up).

Oh, btw, those pop-ups doesn&#39;t shows up when browsing with IE (I got them only with FireFox)

Regex
07-14-2004, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by PikuNe@Jul 14 2004, 04:13 PM
Aha&#33; Now i got this popup in konqueror as well, http://www.animeglobe.com/ubb/index.php?sh...indpost&p=66234 (http://www.animeglobe.com/ubb/index.php?showtopic=3901&view=findpost&p=66234)

So, unless there is some new cross browser spyware i&#39;m unaware of it does emit from this site.
Do you go through any sort of proxy? I have more than once encountered proxies that add popups in the http traffic.

Princess Minako
07-14-2004, 05:48 PM
No one else seems to be getting them... thats the strange part.

The Goddess has Spoken

Eris
07-14-2004, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Member Name+Jul 15 2004, 03:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Member Name &#064; Jul 15 2004, 03:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-PikuNe@Jul 14 2004, 04:13 PM
Aha&#33; Now i got this popup in konqueror as well, http://www.animeglobe.com/ubb/index.php?sh...indpost&p=66234 (http://www.animeglobe.com/ubb/index.php?showtopic=3901&view=findpost&p=66234)

So, unless there is some new cross browser spyware i&#39;m unaware of it does emit from this site.
Do you go through any sort of proxy? I have more than once encountered proxies that add popups in the http traffic. [/b][/quote]
No proxy, and i don&#39;t get popups on any other site which usually doesent have ones.
In any case the worst seems to be over now. Previously i got a popup with every reload of AG, now i don&#39;t get them as frequently.

Jakiao
07-14-2004, 08:29 PM
Then, Piku, why are you the -only- person getting excessive popups?

Listen, there isn&#39;t anything I could possibly do seeing as you&#39;re the only person complaining about it excessively.

What do you want us to do?

Eris
07-14-2004, 08:53 PM
Well, the wizard got them too.

But now they seem to have vanished, so i guess there is nothing to do.
Heh, even the usual ad banner is gone, replaced by a http://c5.zedo.com/OzoDB/0/0/0/blank.gif (note that it&#39;s on the same server that hosted the popups)

wizz-o-matic
07-15-2004, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by PikuNe@Jul 15 2004, 03:53 AM
Well, the wizard got them too.

But now they seem to have vanished, so i guess there is nothing to do.
Heh, even the usual ad banner is gone, replaced by a http://c5.zedo.com/OzoDB/0/0/0/blank.gif (note that it&#39;s on the same server that hosted the popups)
I&#39;m getting them again

And I think that Pikune got it right&#33; The pop-ups are comming along with that ad banner&#33;

Oh, and I got this while browsing with IE

Edit: getting them also on ag.net

Jakiao
07-15-2004, 08:54 PM
But why just you two?

Oh well, it makes no difference. I am already scopping out new advertisers.

Rem
07-18-2004, 05:19 AM
i get pop ups every now and then no biggie

Jakiao
07-18-2004, 09:14 AM
Seeing as I have listed the resolution to this, topic is now closed.