Private schooling.

[-GAZKUL-]

Do you support this system or do you think everyone should have a state(public) education?

mildly curious as a friend goes to a private school which is actually ranked lower for exam results than the local High School which I'm at.

[animeyay]

I think everyone should have the freedom to choose, so yea, I don't have a problem with private schools.
If they want to pay the extra money for schools that are better or worse, then that's their choice, as long as they don't affect my education in any way or form.
As for me, the cheapest is the best, so public education for me always! =D

[Heinekenrana]

I think it should be up to the parents to choose what sort of education their child gets. If the parents can afford private school and feel it's the best fit economically and socially for their child, then they should be able to send them there; I prefer that my children have a public education, personally.

[Skylar1]

If they reform some of the policies and make the prerequisites for being a teacher better, public education all the way.

[Xeyuzio]

I went to private school for a few years but then I wanted to go to public which I personally think was a bad decision, I mean if you can go to private school you should probably go but that's just my opinion on this matter.

[Lily Rock]

It all comes down to what the kids want or parents want; a public education school filled with often bullies or private school with "look at me, i attend to a school that costs more than normal", either way, it's still the same depending on what education you need(or if it's school for kids).

[Bibi of the Blue Sea]

I feel public education is a great idea, just a little bit poorly executed in some areas.

[Hypatia]

To say that all children have to attend a state school is just taking another choice away from parents. At the end of the day its the parents' money and they should be able to use their money as they please.
Whether they are wasting their money is their issue.
I feel that to say that everyone *SHOULD* have a state education is an idea that supports socialism.

[Eris]

Private schooling really depends on how it's implemented. In Sweden my impression of public schools, which are tax-funded but privately run, is that they invariably turn into operations based entirely on funneling as much tax money into private pockets as imaginable while doing the very bare minimum quality and quantity of education.

And naturally, religious private schools should be banned altogether.

[Skylar1]

To say that all children have to attend a state school is just taking another choice away from parents. At the end of the day its the parents' money and they should be able to use their money as they please.
Whether they are wasting their money is their issue.
not necessarily. It's the kids that will be the future workers and movers of society- which is everyone's issue.


I feel that to say that everyone *SHOULD* have a state education is an idea that supports socialism.
Problem?

[Memento Mori]

Aren't most children who are in private schools for religious reasons anyway? Same for homeschooling, but not always the case?

Honestly, I believe in homeschooling first, public second. But, I also believe parents have the final say in their child's education.

[Megamind's Minion]

private schooling is okay...
i went to one in elementary...

but public or state schooling is better...
in high school, and now in college...
we are the best or the school is the best in the country...
and though also lots of private schools are at par and trying to contest the position as country's number one...
public schools product are still formidable...

[Kyubi-no-kitsune]

i feel that it should be the kids choice depending on if their comfortable in the privite school setting or the public school setting, i went to public school k-12 while my sister went to a fancy boarding school for girls cause she tried the public school setting and it wasnt for her

[Anuket]

Naturally I would say it depends on the child and/or the monthly income of the family, but it still varies on where you are. When I was young and still lived in the Philippines my parents made me go to private schools because somehow it's better educationally and socially. Then when we moved to China I had no choice but to go to a public school, two reasons; one - private schools are extremely expensive in China and two - it's just not as good as a local one when it comes to teachings. Now I am going back again to the Philippines for college because it's economically and educationally better than in China, and I am actually going to a Pontifical university.

In my opinion, it depends on where you are; different places have different ways of teachings.


And naturally, religious private schools should be banned altogether.

Why? Just curious.

[Psyco_Panda]

as does everything... it has its advantages and disadvantages. it can be good because you are able to get the one on one attention you may need to learn. then you also may not receive the social skills you need to communicate with other people. like when you finally graduate, move out, and get into the real world you may have a hard time getting yourself to where you need to be or have the potential to be just because you dont know how to communicate correctly wiyh the people you need to communicate with.

[Aku no Hikari]

Why? Just curious.

Religious schools are the worst "schools" ever. They're not even schools; they're like human production institutes that produce sick, confused, hateful, anti-social, blind, medieval bigots that are more likely to be serial killers, terrorists or just plain douches. (Regardless of their actual religion and how neutral or even good it could otherwise be.) And if not, then it's more than likely that the kid will live their school life depressed in confusion, guilt, shame, deprivation, and/or complete denial of what they're being taught, and feeling immense despise to their school and their life in it. Exceptions exist, yes, but they're the (rare) exceptions.

Religion should never, ever be taught through an institute to children. (Not that I'm being anti-religious here.) Religious schools are too flawed for their purpose... assuming that their purpose is filled with pink, flowery good intentions... which is not the case all the time. (and that might be an understatement). So even if religious schools were to be allowed, there's bound to be arbitrary rules that determine which religions or sects can or cannot have a school. (Because a Baptist school or a Shi'a Muslim school can never be a good idea)

... Not to mention that religious schools are usually worse than normal schools in terms of real education.

Is that enough?

[Anuket]

Is that enough?

OK... So does that mean that me going to a Pontifical university isn't the smartest decision?

[Senjou_Akira]

i think it depends on the parents and children's choice and of the school's environment of course

[Aku no Hikari]

OK... So does that mean that me going to a Pontifical university isn't the smartest decision?

I... honestly wouldn't recommend it.

Though to be fair, it's usually far more severe in children's case than with adults. Religious schools are worse than religious universities, so to speak. And in my previous post, I was mainly talking about religious schools. I don't think adults should be banned from deeply studying their religion if they want to.

I don't really know much about your particular religion/sect, but even if you perceive it to be good-intentioned and tolerating, chances are, you'll find yourself surrounded by bigots in the university... so it's not going to be a very nice trip. If you're serious about it, at least you should research it, go there and take a deep look inside, see the atmosphere, ask some of its students about everything, take a look at what they're studying, maybe ask some graduates, talk to some teachers/professors/(I don't know what they're called in a religious uni)... You should make sure you know everything about it before entering it to see if you really want to.

If you're unsure or can't be sure, it's not worth it. Because... no offense intended at all, but I really prefer studying something real for a university degree. I can't think of many ways a religion university degree can be useful in practical life. If all you want is studying your religion, you still can do it without the university. Instead, I'd enter a university that can get me a real job and a decent wage.

[Anuket]

I... honestly wouldn't recommend it.

Though to be fair, it's usually far more severe in children's case than with adults. Religious schools are worse than religious universities, so to speak. And in my previous post, I was mainly talking about religious schools. I don't think adults should be banned from deeply studying their religion if they want to.

I don't really know much about your particular religion/sect, but even if you perceive it to be good-intentioned and tolerating, chances are, you'll find yourself surrounded by bigots in the university... so it's not going to be a very nice trip. If you're serious about it, at least you should research it, go there and take a deep look inside, see the atmosphere, ask some of its students about everything, take a look at what they're studying, maybe ask some graduates, talk to some teachers/professors/(I don't know what they're called in a religious uni)... You should make sure you know everything about it before entering it to see if you really want to.

If you're unsure or can't be sure, it's not worth it. Because... no offense intended at all, but I really prefer studying something real for a university degree. I can't think of many ways a religion university degree can be useful in practical life. If all you want is studying your religion, you still can do it without the university. Instead, I'd enter a university that can get me a real job and a decent wage.

You got a point but I am very confident with this school I've chosen, it's not really like you think it is. It's quite different actually the students aren't really forced to study theology or any other religious stuff. The university offers a lot of different majors; i.e. medicinal, engineering, law and more. So it's not as bad as you expected it to be but I appreciate your advice and of course your opinion on religious schools/universities.

[Meenah]

I don't know a lot about private schooling, except my mom went to one that is exclusive for girls only and it was real expensive. ;/ I might post it what I know more about it if I ask her.

Anyway, if it serves the same purpose of teaching a kid and the kid learns, I'd stick to public school because I don't want to spend too much money just for private school. Well... there are things I have to consider, but I like public school a lot more anyways.

[リッキー]

I think that private schooling tends to lure quality teachers away from public areas, which could use them to reach people, whom are not wealthy, or as privileged, and in need of high quality learning. At the moment they are torn between lower paying jobs in the public sector or higher paying jobs in the private sector, and that will normally always result in poorer communities receiving less.

So I think the system should be changed so that governments fully accept the role and afford the same funding to all areas, and fix wages, so that it doesn’t become a war of who has the most money, and remains what it should be: educating the public.

[-GAZKUL-]

So I think the system should be changed so that governments fully accept the role and afford the same funding to all areas, and fix wages, so that it doesn’t become a war of who has the most money, and remains what it should be: educating the public.

this^

as a socialist i think private schools should be banned outright as it merely encourages discrimination and means those from poorer backgrounds are frowned upon and increases the class divide.

[under the rain]

I'm pro-public education. I just think it needs some huge reforms. (Namely, more specialized education once you hit High-School)


private schools should be banned outright as it merely encourages discrimination and means those from poorer backgrounds are frowned upon and increases the class divide.

This.