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Old 05-17-2007, 02:32 PM   #1
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Does anyone else besides me think that the Karakura Super Heroes should have their own gaiden series? I mean, Bleach is falling apart as it is, Kubo Tite is losing it, just like he did with Zombie Powder.
Think about it, it would be like Azumanga Daioh meets Bleach meets Power Rangers (before it became crap).
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I don't think that Bleach is falling apart at all. I think it has changed drastically from it's original state, but I don't thing it is even close to falling apart, and certainly no in the footsteps of Zombie Powder.

And I, personally, hate Don Kanonji and the Karakura Super Heros...separately the characters are nice, but the stupid little stories they get...ugh. I understood Kanonji's usefulness the first time he showed up, but all the episodes related to him after that were just a few chapter omakes strung together for some semi-filler.
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:42 PM   #3
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I don't think that Bleach is falling apart at all. I think it has changed drastically from it's original state, but I don't thing it is even close to falling apart,

What he said. And for the actual topic, I really wouldn't care.
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Bleach is always going to be my fave anime even if it ends before naruto. i think that Bleach is da best and it is sooo NOT falling! there are still lots of Bleach supporters
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Why do people keep saying Bleach is falling apart??? The series is STILL great. Just because it isn't brand new anymore doesn't mean that it's no good. What part of Bleach can you really say is bad? And please don't use that stupid "X character is annoying argument".

Oh, and as a side note (main topic is a side note lol) I usually laugh at the Karakura Super Heroes bits. I think it could be better done personally instead of making it ALL comedy.
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Here are my reasons that Bleach is falling apart:
First off the current Manga arc with the Arrancar and the exodus of Aizen and them is far, far too similar to the Soul Society arc. Damzel in distress, invading an enemy dimension, running into strong opponents nearly getting beaten but winning miraculously, etc.

Secondly, the main characters are showing no development. Ichigo hasn't had any real development with his Hollow thing in too long. That whole I will control it like a Vizard and not actually be one thing was... dissapointing. Renji has had nothing since the end of Soul Society arc. Ishida has had no real development since the beginning of the series, sans the introduction of his father. Orihime is useless AND underdeveloped. Chad is being handled well I think, in my opinion, but still Chad seems to be the cool character that always loses no matter what and has had two points of character development in the series.

Thirdly, the Bleach Anime is worse off than the Manga. After the horrific Bounto arc, which was a recut and rehashed Soul Society arc, they decided to intersperse random filler in every episode. If it were not bad enough, it is filler left over from the bounto arc. Yay. Furthermore the anime his horribly paced; they ended the filler too early, they are crapping up the new episodes with their low budget animation they got landed with because the filler was so bad, and they are too fast approaching the manga. Which means a filler arc thrown in at the most ridiculous point, or taking the story off in a direction other than that of the manga. Just because it worked for FMA, doesn't mean it will ever work again.

Lastly, when you compare Bleach to its rival, Naruto, which has a bigger budget, better story (personal preference, but on average this holds true), infinitely better developed and more varied characters, and the complete eradication of filler in the new episodes, one cannot help but see how quickly Bleach is being crushed under its own weight.

I'm not saying Bleach is going to be ever cancelled, it is by no means bad, like Kenshin's anime was, but if it continues along its current path it is not going to be as highly regarded in the end as it could of been. Kubo Tite is still sitting on gold, he just has to take the series back to its roots, while still keeping the storyline intact. As far as the anime is concerned, heh, i wish them luck, they will need it.
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Here are my reasons that Bleach is falling apart:
First off the current Manga arc with the Arrancar and the exodus of Aizen and them is far, far too similar to the Soul Society arc. Damzel in distress, invading an enemy dimension, running into strong opponents nearly getting beaten but winning miraculously, etc.

Secondly, the main characters are showing no development. Ichigo hasn't had any real development with his Hollow thing in too long. That whole I will control it like a Vizard and not actually be one thing was... dissapointing. Renji has had nothing since the end of Soul Society arc. Ishida has had no real development since the beginning of the series, sans the introduction of his father. Orihime is useless AND underdeveloped. Chad is being handled well I think, in my opinion, but still Chad seems to be the cool character that always loses no matter what and has had two points of character development in the series.

Thirdly, the Bleach Anime is worse off than the Manga. After the horrific Bounto arc, which was a recut and rehashed Soul Society arc, they decided to intersperse random filler in every episode. If it were not bad enough, it is filler left over from the bounto arc. Yay. Furthermore the anime his horribly paced; they ended the filler too early, they are crapping up the new episodes with their low budget animation they got landed with because the filler was so bad, and they are too fast approaching the manga. Which means a filler arc thrown in at the most ridiculous point, or taking the story off in a direction other than that of the manga. Just because it worked for FMA, doesn't mean it will ever work again.

Lastly, when you compare Bleach to its rival, Naruto, which has a bigger budget, better story (personal preference, but on average this holds true), infinitely better developed and more varied characters, and the complete eradication of filler in the new episodes, one cannot help but see how quickly Bleach is being crushed under its own weight.

I'm not saying Bleach is going to be ever cancelled, it is by no means bad, like Kenshin's anime was, but if it continues along its current path it is not going to be as highly regarded in the end as it could of been. Kubo Tite is still sitting on gold, he just has to take the series back to its roots, while still keeping the storyline intact. As far as the anime is concerned, heh, i wish them luck, they will need it.

Maybe~

He's really trying to think all of those mind-bending ideas that he wrote and drew, to actually twist and end up in an awesome end.

Or.. it would probably end in a queer crash, which I really hope it won't~

The interesting parts to me are when they actually fight, and how Ichigo would sometimes be hillarious, or just.. blunt. [:

I love the 126th episode, though. It's pretty much maneuvered me to a whole new road.

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I don't think that Bleach is falling apart at all. I think it has changed drastically from it's original state, but I don't thing it is even close to falling apart, and certainly no in the footsteps of Zombie Powder.

And I, personally, hate Don Kanonji and the Karakura Super Heros...separately the characters are nice, but the stupid little stories they get...ugh. I understood Kanonji's usefulness the first time he showed up, but all the episodes related to him after that were just a few chapter omakes strung together for some semi-filler.

Totally agree on that!!

Actually Kanonji USED to be a pretty important character.. but now; he ain't that cool no more.

Maybe Kubo tried to make this series more.. "alive" ?

Ou, even I know nothing of this. =.=;
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Totally agree on that!!

Actually Kanonji USED to be a pretty important character.. but now; he ain't that cool no more.

Maybe Kubo tried to make this series more.. "alive" ?

Ou, even I know nothing of this. =.=;
Kanonji is about as important as Haku and Zabuza were in Naruto...and they were greatly unimportant.

Kanonji has that one episode where he scrapped away with a little shred of importance. After that...well...filler is as filler does.
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I have to disagree with you there. Kanoji is nowhere near as important as Zabuza & Haku were. Zabuza & Haku have had a somewhat lasting effect on the characters from Naruto and even now Zabuzas sword plays a role.
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Does anyone else besides me think that the Karakura Super Heroes should have their own gaiden series? I mean, Bleach is falling apart as it is, Kubo Tite is losing it, just like he did with Zombie Powder.
Think about it, it would be like Azumanga Daioh meets Bleach meets Power Rangers (before it became crap).
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