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Old 03-15-2007, 07:57 PM   #1
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what do you think is the deal with ichigos father? why not tel ichigo about his shinigami past? who was he in soul society?
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Probably because he didn't want to expose his family, who lived normal lives, to such a dangerous world. He wanted to live his life peacefully, rather than continue being in a dangerous position, as well as wanting to live with Misaki (Mrs. Kurosaki).

Also, we know that he was at one point a Captain because of the white garb he was carrying, but other than that, we have yet to ear or see anything else about him. I think that he will play a bigger role after the Hueco Mundo arc, seeing as he didn't do much in the Arrancar arc other than defeat Grand Fisher.
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Old 03-15-2007, 08:37 PM   #3
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not that why not tell ichigo now... and what division was he captain of aso
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Probably because he doesn't want Ichigo to know. That would seriously mess up the father-son relationship he has built...as strange as that relationship it.

As for his division, nothing about his past of as a Shinigami is known yet.
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i know that i asked what u think

yeah i kan under stand that he wants his son too think he is a dumbass:P ehehe
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Besides, he can't tell Ichigo now be cause Ichigo is not there lol. He'll have to wait until he gets back....IF he gets back (villainous laugh). No, I'm pretty sure he'll get back.

Also we don't really know the circumstances as to why he left Soul Society. That may have something to do with why he won't tell Ichigo. Maybe something happened that he didn't want them to know about.
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maybe hes arfaid ichigo will blame him for his mothers death... if seems her death is why he left soul Society
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maybe hes arfaid ichigo will blame him for his mothers death... if seems her death is why he left soul Society
I think the first part is possible. About him being afraid that Ichigo may resent or be upset with him because of the death of his mother. After all his mother was killed by Grand Fisher (a hollow) and his father is a captain level shinigami. Maybe he himself feels guilty about not being able to protect her.

However, I don't agree with the idea of her death being the reason that he left Soul Society. It seems pretty obvious that he probably left well before Ichigo was even born.
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maybe hes arfaid ichigo will blame him for his mothers death... if seems her death is why he left soul Society
He left the soul society 15 to 20 yrs before Ichigo even met Rukia on the first place.....even so his mother only died 4 yrs earlier and by then all of his shingami powers were long gone......so their was nothing he could've done...
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He left the soul society 15 to 20 yrs before Ichigo even met Rukia on the first place.....even so his mother only died 4 yrs earlier and by then all of his shingami powers were long gone......so their was nothing he could've done...
Actually his shinigami powers are not gone. The whole reason that we know he is a shinigami (and captain level at that) is because he used his powers. And from what I can tell it seems that he may even be stronger than Ichigo is.
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maybe I can't belive ichigos father is from the soul soceity I guess you learn a new thing every day
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I think he may have left with Urahara. They seem to be buddies or something of that nature, atleast its quite safe to say they were captain's at the same time. He may have been connected with Urahara's experiments, thus not wanting to tell Ichigo he was apart of them?

He knows about Aizen doesn't he? Maybe he was the former Captain of Aizen's division, just a completely uneducated guess.
Anyway if your dad's a captain, your bound to inherit some power, So I'd agree he's probably or was at one time stronger than his son.
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He knows about Aizen doesn't he? Maybe he was the former Captain of Aizen's division, just a completely uneducated guess.
Anyway if your dad's a captain, your bound to inherit some power, So I'd agree he's probably or was at one time stronger than his son.
.....that last part makes sense.......hmm......
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Maybe because he is afraid of what Ichigo might think of him after hiding it all these years. I really think that Ichigo will fight his father and win, but if Ichigo's dad was a cap, then what division was it??? Sry that this is getting off subjet... just really tired
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Maybe because he is afraid of what Ichigo might think of him after hiding it all these years. I really think that Ichigo will fight his father and win, but if Ichigo's dad was a cap, then what division was it??? Sry that this is getting off subjet... just really tired
np... hehe... i really wanna know about his past
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I just wonder why no one in the Soul Society recognizes the Kurosaki name,or chooses not to say anything. Being a former captain one would think someone would have said, hey I wonder if that Ichigo Kurosaki is related to the former captain?

Which lends to what actually happened in his past. People still remember Urahara's former captain title, why not Mr. Kurosaki's?...well atleast Urahara knows.
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I doubt anyone would have really wondered about Ichigos name when he 1st went to SS. The didn't even know his name when he entered and was trying to save Rukia. They just reffered to him as one of the Ryokamost of the time.

It's also possible that he changed his name after leaving SS to further avoid detection. But one thing is for sure. He is not nearly as dumb and goofy as he acts.
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i think rukias brother remembers... i think it may bee part of why he does not like ichogo that mutch...
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I agree with those points. Just odd when he said his name was Ichigo Kurosaki nothing seemed to click in anyone's mind in SS, which leads to the point maybe Isshin did change his name.

Anyway, as goofy as he portrays himself he's up to date on things. Didn't Urahara say something to the effect like "its happening just like you said".
He was more than likely in on Urahara's experiments and such.
Kind of reminds me of Captain Kyouraku, goofy but can be serious (atleast now) and is obviously powerful.
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Isshin & Kisuke have definitely had dealings with each other in the past.

I just thought of something funny. Did they ever actually mention the name of or show the captain that Zaraki defeated? Maybe it was Isshin & he faked getting beat by Zaraki so that he could leave without anyone noticing. He could have had Aizen in on it. Use his illusion power to create a fake body while Isshin snuck out during the confusion.

And before anyone says "hey, Mugetsu says Isshin & Aizen got together to fake Isshins death", this is just a MADE UP PRETEND THEORY WITH NO SOLID EVIDENCE. It's done for fun. Thou it would be cool if it turned out I was right.
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You know, I was actually wondering if he was the Captain who Zaraki defeated or something like that. The other captains are pretty much set some story wise and seniority wise.
Yamamoto- "the captain"
Utitake- Original, been around from the start
Kyouraku- Original, " "
Mayuri- after Urahara (Hmm was he Urahara's Vice captain?)
Soifon- after Yoruichi
Byakuya- probably to "popular or esteemed" to be a replacement.
Unohana- don't think Isshin was a captain here...though he is a really good doctor.
Ichimaru- Its said he became a captain the same time Byakuya did...though he used to be a vice captain before the 3rd division.
Hitsugaya- young but, I don't think so.
Tosen & Komamura- Not sure about these two

Aizen is the one that I wonder about. I think its stated that Tosen knew Aizen when he was still Lieutenant of the 5th division.
This makes me wonder...It may have been Isshin's wish to leave, knowing what trouble being with Urahara's experiments would cause...perhaps he asked his Vice-Captain Aizen? to help him get out.
Then that would explain how Aizen knew about Urahara's invention, from his "Captain Isshin"...and why Isshin knows a good deal about Aizen and the kind of guy he is, (Isshin's actual keen awarness may have picked up on Aizen's power drive)

Of course to go with Mugetsu's thought, he could have been friends with Aizen or fellow Captains, making Isshin the 11th division Captain that "died."
Eh, those are my rambling thoughts.
(Geez if Aizen was really the bad bad guy, he could have sent the hollow to kill Mrs. Kurosaki...in spite of his former captain or fellow captain?)
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Hmmm... something interesting I came across when I was rewatching ep 41 or 42 (1st attept in saving rukia). When Ichigo came down, it showed Ukitate in shock and asked Byakuya about him. Then Byakuya turned and said to him "No relation, at least to the person that just flashed in you're mind, my senior."

This kind of makes me think that Byakuya "may" have filled Isshin's place, and he was there while Ukitate was captain or so. Of course this is just a opinion, not a fact.

The hole Aizen theory sounds interesting though, would be neat to find it true.
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Hmmm... something interesting I came across when I was rewatching ep 41 or 42 (1st attept in saving rukia). When Ichigo came down, it showed Ukitate in shock and asked Byakuya about him. Then Byakuya turned and said to him "No relation, at least to the person that just flashed in you're mind, my senior."

This kind of makes me think that Byakuya "may" have filled Isshin's place, and he was there while Ukitate was captain or so. Of course this is just a opinion, not a fact.

The hole Aizen theory sounds interesting though, would be neat to find it true.
Are you serious???? He actually said that? I have to remember to look that up. That would be huge and I would hate myself for not picking up on it before lol. I'm usually very perceptive about stuf like that.

But that would mean that they did remember the name. Maybe they just didn't think further about it becuse
1) Ichigo is a regular human an not a citizen of SS
2) They may have thought Isshin died without children (If so they may feel that Ichigo is too young to be Isshins child)
3) Ichigos hair is blazing bright while Isshins is black

But I do hope we find out more about Aizens past. I know Gin was his vice captain but where did he start?
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Hmmm... something interesting I came across when I was rewatching ep 41 or 42 (1st attept in saving rukia). When Ichigo came down, it showed Ukitate in shock and asked Byakuya about him. Then Byakuya turned and said to him "No relation, at least to the person that just flashed in you're mind, my senior."

This kind of makes me think that Byakuya "may" have filled Isshin's place, and he was there while Ukitate was captain or so. Of course this is just a opinion, not a fact.

The hole Aizen theory sounds interesting though, would be neat to find it true.
I am pretty sure he was referring to Ukitake's old vice-captain, the one that looked just like Ichigo. "My senior" would have been just his way of adressing Ukitake.
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I know Aizen was supposedly the former 5th Division Vice-Captain, or so each Bleach info site says, thus sparking my interest in a 5th Division Captain Kurosaki Isshin and Vice Captain Sosuke Aizen. Although its hard to piece the time periods of each person.

Though, are the 20 years associated with Isshin, 20 years since he took shinigami form, or since he was a captain in the SS? Because with things such as Byakuya becoming captain 50 years before the storyline, kind adds to the time mismatching.
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