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    You all could get much more in the answers department by going to http://www.serebii.net
    Personally, I am so disappointed by the general art style and rendering of the new pokemon, I'm just not going to buy the new games.
    Which is saying a lot considering I've been playing pokemon hard-core for past 12 years....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian Judge View Post
    You all could get much more in the answers department by going to http://www.serebii.net
    Personally, I am so disappointed by the general art style and rendering of the new pokemon, I'm just not going to buy the new games.
    Which is saying a lot considering I've been playing pokemon hard-core for past 12 years....
    You're saying that now, but then it comes out you'll probably be in line with the rest of us.

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    Won't get.
    Pokemon has become rather dull for me.
    SSDD pretty much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsis View Post
    You're saying that now, but then it comes out you'll probably be in line with the rest of us.
    Not unless they pay me to take it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobifreed View Post
    Won't get.
    Pokemon has become rather dull for me.
    SSDD pretty much.
    Yeah, I guess that's why you still have a Pokemon avatar and sig. It's totally understandable.

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    Not unless they pay me to take it.
    If you say so, but you still don't sound so sure to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsis View Post
    Yeah,I guess that's why you still have pokemon avatar and sigs.
    Yeah, I noticed that and went "wait a second there."
    Planning on changing quite soon.
    Looking thoguh my Tinypic Sig album/

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    I didn't buy HeartGold or SoulSilver. I will be buying Black and White. I MUST play as that fire pig. That is the cutest pokemon we've had in a while. It's a pig! WITH FIRE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NICOLASCAGEINABEARSUIT View Post
    I didn't buy HeartGold or SoulSilver. I will be buying Black and White. I MUST play as that fire pig. That is the cutest pokemon we've had in a while. It's a pig! WITH FIRE!
    REALLY?!?
    You didn't buy some of the best pokemon games out there, and you're willing to redeem yourself by purchasing a cheap rip off?

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    Wouldn't that be the same as saying HeartGold and SoulSilver are cheap remakes off of Gold and Silver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian Judge View Post
    REALLY?!?
    You didn't buy some of the best pokemon games out there, and you're willing to redeem yourself by purchasing a cheap rip off?
    ...how is Black/White a cheap rip off? Or am I misunderstanding something here?

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    I think he's talking about the pig. It does remind me a bit of the fire Pokemon from Gold and Silver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsis View Post
    ...how is Black/White a cheap rip off? Or am I misunderstanding something here?
    Because the art style is lacking in so many categories that calling it Pokemon is like calling teletubbies neopets.

    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    Wouldn't that be the same as saying HeartGold and SoulSilver are cheap remakes off of Gold and Silver?
    No, because they weren't cheap and they were just as fun as the originals, if not more so~

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    Um, I can point out many flubs in the Pokemon art styles in past games. And they only remade the games for the money. That's pretty cheap to me. Don't get me wrong, I buy remakes but I consider any remakes cheap. It's time and money that could have been spent towards a new game.
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    Pokemon has never and will never be about artstyle. It's little sprites fighting each other. I never played the original Gold or Silver, so my nostalgia is severely lacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian Judge View Post
    Because the art style is lacking in so many categories that calling it Pokemon is like calling teletubbies neopets.
    Oh yeah. I forgot that since they changed the art styles on every Zelda that they're rip offs too...and the Mario games too...and Metroid...and every other sequel as well. So do I really need to keep going? Honestly, to me it sounds like either:
    A. You have a grudge against Pokemon for whatever reason.
    B. You're trying to be that guy who says he hates pokemon so much, and gives rather bad reasons, because his friends do the same.
    /end.

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    I'm not sating that they spent more money on HG or SS, simply that it was a better remake than others. I value the art style of the pokemon just as much the actual gameplay~

    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsis View Post
    Oh yeah. I forgot that since they changed the art styles on every Zelda that they're rip offs too...and the Mario games too...and Metroid...and every other sequel as well. So do I really need to keep going? Honestly, to me it sounds like either:
    A. You have a grudge against Pokemon for whatever reason.
    B. You're trying to be that guy who says he hates pokemon so much, and gives rather bad reasons, because his friends do the same.
    /end.
    I love pokemon, I know so much about it that it's implemented in many of my analogies and comparisons. Oh and just an FYI I haven't played mario, or metroid.
    Besides I like the art styles of Zelda, of course some of the music makes me want to strangle people..
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    The funny thing is, the "art style" hasn't been the same on any pokemon games... Except their counterparts of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsis View Post
    The funny thing is, the "art style" hasn't been the same on any pokemon games... Except their counterparts of course.
    Well there are similarities, but you are correct. I simply find that this "new" one is flamboyantly hideous.

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    Take your pick.

    Platinum was more oriented towards hard-core Pokemon gamers, whereas Gold and Silver was obviously made for the kids. I'm hoping this version will continue on the same track as the Platinum version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Datenshi View Post
    Platinum was more oriented towards hard-core Pokemon gamers, whereas Gold and Silver was obviously made for the kids. I'm hoping this version will continue on the same track as the Platinum version.
    I always thought all pokemon games were made for the casual gamer? And the many many fanboys/fangirls as well.

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    PKMN Black/White would be a rather risky installment..

    Shop employé: How can I help you
    You: *puts PKMN white on the counter*
    Shop employé: .. WHY NOT THE BLACK ONE, HUH!?
    You: *puts PKMN black on the counter*
    Shop employé: .. WHY NOT THE WHITE ONE, HUH!?
    You: .. *puts both on the counter*
    Shop employé: .. That'll be 118,70 Euro, please

    Now that I think of it.. Thats brilliant marketing.

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    That would work outside of Japan. Japan doesn't really care if they seem racist.

    I have a posse of level 50 Bidoof slaves in Pokemon Pearl. They are the awesomest pokemon ever. They break your rocks AND they swim for you. If they gave Bidoof wings, it'd be the perfect pokemon.

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    I always thought all pokemon games were made for the casual gamer? And the many many fanboys/fangirls as well.
    Agreed. While some elements of the game have been kept in place for the sake of the "hardcore" Pokemon gamer, ALL Pokemon games are oriented towards kids, even the director's cut versions such as Platinum. Its Pokemon, for crying out loud.
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    I always thought all pokemon games were made for the casual gamer? And the many many fanboys/fangirls as well.
    Well, you'll notice I said "more oriented", as in relatively more oriented towards gamers as compared to Gold and Silver. A game can be made mainly for the casual gamer and still have more aspects that appeal to hard-core gamers than another title in the series. I wasn't suggesting that Platinum was exculsively made for gamers, as you seem to suggest I somehow said, nor that "all pokemon games" were not made for the casual gamer. I apologize if my wording was misleading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Datenshi View Post
    Well, you'll notice I said "more oriented", as in relatively more oriented towards gamers as compared to Gold and Silver. A game can be made mainly for the casual gamer and still have more aspects that appeal to hard-core gamers than another title in the series. I wasn't suggesting that Platinum was exculsively made for gamers, as you seem to suggest I somehow said, nor that "all pokemon games" were not made for the casual gamer. I apologize if my wording was misleading.
    I still don't really understand how it was more orientated towards hardcore gamers than hg/ss was. I figured that since HG/SS were twice as long as Platinum, that it would attract more hardcore gamers. Then again, I never played Platinum so I have no clue.

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