I don't think GAZ voted at all...he was apparently intoxicated ._.
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I don't think GAZ voted at all...he was apparently intoxicated ._.
oh nvm, saw Kaitou's post
@Kaitou+ but shouldn't you wait a bit longer? he could come back tomorrow and actually vote for someone
Are you guys seriously derping this hard?
Perhaps, but DP1 helps people analyze how others plan to play the rest of the game, and it gives plenty of opportunities to catch contradictory statements. True that there is no actual action in DP1, but it doesn't change the fact that it determines the rest of the game.
...What? You just said that voting was the main method in encouraging activity and discussion. Voting, even if there is no concrete basis for doing so, still encourages others to speak up, which is what the game is about. Voting ONLY when you are 100% confident in your vote is not how you play, and so you can't accuse others of vote hopping when you do the same thing.
For right now I admit that I am not confident enough to place a long-term vote. I would rather wait until I can be active enough to answer any questions from others. Not to mention that I could unknowingly start a bandwagon and have that used against me in the next day phase if that person turned out to be town.
It's not that I'm not suspecting her, but I just don't want to be too rash. For example, like I asked before, why did ZW escape interrogation while Ribbon was treated to a full course?
Also, you know very well we wouldn't lynch you without a good suspicion even if Ribbon should turn out innocent. Why would you ask for your own death? I s'ppose you're gonna say that's how sure you're about Ribbon being a scum?
No, not perhaps, it's fact. Mafia would have killed someone by DP2. Anyone who performed an action on NP1 would have gained more info or an advantage to the game in some way. A lynch would also have occurred by DP2, giving new opportunity for analysis and speculation.
I'm not sure what you're "...What?"-ing about, because it's really not difficult to understand....What? You just said that voting was the main method in encouraging activity and discussion. Voting, even if there is no concrete basis for doing so, still encourages others to speak up, which is what the game is about. Voting ONLY when you are 100% confident in your vote is not how you play, and so you can't accuse others of vote hopping when you do the same thing.
Yes, voting is vital for pressuring and gaining information. If you vote to pressure someone, that is your basis for voting. That is voting I condone. I accused her of votehopping because her initial basis for it was lackluster. Simple.
Votes can be changed at will. Nothing is "long-term," for nothing is set in stone.For right now I admit that I am not confident enough to place a long-term vote. I would rather wait until I can be active enough to answer any questions from others. Not to mention that I could unknowingly start a bandwagon and have that used against me in the next day phase if that person turned out to be town.
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Ribbon was the one acting more scummy. I don't got a scummy vibe on ZW at this point. Plus, he's got his vote on Ribbon.
Yes. That's to show that I'm being serious. Now Mike, please...I'm literally developing a headache from all of this frustrating derping.
Of course I admit my defense is weak. However your basis for your vote are also rather weak. You're over analyzing my behaviour, forgetting to mention TW in any of this, and you push others to vote for me. Like I said. I am for town, however I am not so sure about you anymore.
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@Daken - This is for your question earlier on:
Mikuchuu voted against me. So she is suspicious of me because I am trying to hard to prove my innocence. She says that she is also suspicious of Blueangel06661 and ZombieWolf. She didn't state any reasons for this.
Sigh, I was hoping I'd have time to read through all of the pages to update my suspicions, but I'm being nagged to get off the computer, so I'll just give some quick input from what I've read so far.
For now my suspicions lay with ZombieWolf, Ribbon, blueangel, and Loki.
@ZombieWolf2508 This is a new game. Please stop referring to older games. Basing your suspicion on Ribbon simply because she's acting THE WAY YOU DID in the last game as the Godfather doesn't have much substance, and it doesn't help further the town.
@Ribbon Even if you weren't aware of the Godfather's ability, you still shouldn't encourage the Cop to investigate you. If you are a townie, then why waste the Cop's night action on you when there are other potential scum he could investigate?
@blueangel06661 You come in, post a few cursory comments, then split. Seems like you're avoiding attention.
@Loki You're willing to throw away an entire day phase? We're not even halfway through the phase; there's plenty of opportunities for scum-slips, especially with this many players. Being intent on voting no lynch makes it appear as if you're planning on giving the wolves a head start.
I apologize if I've missed some of your defenses or explanations; I simply don't have time to read through everything right now. I just wanted to post my current concerns. I am keeping my vote on No Lynch for now, but only because I want to ensure I am active enough to answer questions after I vote. I do intend to vote for someone by the end of this phase, but it will be when I'm online to give more input.
I provided at least 7 points on you. What have you got?
It's only "over analyzing" when it's against you. The way I see it, it's completely appropriate and necessary. Also, why would I need to mention ZW at all when I'm of the belief that you are scum?
Of course I'm pushing others on you, because you are scum. If there's a vigilante around, he can settle this quicker, unless you're BP. If not, we'll have to rely on a lynch.
Ah! @MikuChuu is back!!
I'm been waiting, my dear, for you to clarify this statement:
Ribbon I started to get suspicious of ZW because of the way he explained about what role he thinks you had, but to me you seemed to be appear innocent then suspicious. So i'm just not going to take my chances x.x
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and she comes and leaves~ whee!
guess I won't let her off so easily then
Well if your going to say someone is suspicious you can at least state WHY when you say someones name.
@RyuTama - I was merely saying this because I wanted to prove myself for town. Yes I'm aware that it isn't completely right, but at least town would one one person they could trust, right?
@Daken - Listen to yourself. You have 3 points, stop trying to make things look bigger than they actually are. Your three points aren't even that strong.
1. I was pressuring multiple people and stoping. TW did the exact same thing, as observed by animeyay.
2. I put out my theory that you we're perhaps scum because of a MISTAKE I made, thinking it was you who was called innocent, and then I didn't push on any further with Screwby. He wasn't really online, so I couldn't make conversation when I realized my error.
3. I told the cop to check me. You immediately jumped and called "Godfather". Of course, I'm utterly confused and tell you I didn't have any honest idea that the Godfather shows as innocent to cops. You call me a liar.
Yeah. Three weak points, not seven. Calm toi, cheri.
@Sir Machinehead - I see you lurking. Do you mind telling us what you think about the current situation? And could we have a list of your suspicions based on what you read?
Oups. My bad again. It was meant for @Scruffy .
@animeyay Sorry I'm not really focused on wolf atm. Looking at engagement rings and dresses and stuff. (Yes I think THAT time is coming )
But anyway I mean her defense seemed to make her look innocent so I was like hmmm ZW seems suspicious, then she just seemed too defensive. Sorry if that didn't clarify my statement o.o I'm terrible at explaining things. I can try to clarify it more if you want.
I believe this was supposed to be directed towards myself, not Daken. Anyway, does the number of hyphens in this post not look like 8? Obviously they have been condensed by you into 3, but regardless...
Why does it matter if someone else does it? It's not like it makes you any less guilty just because you're not the only one.1. I was pressuring multiple people and stoping. TW did the exact same thing, as observed by animeyay.
You also said my voting was not "plausible." You have also claimed that myself and Butcher are in a Duo Mafia. Neither of these claims have been substantiated.2. I put out my theory that you we're perhaps scum because of a MISTAKE I made, thinking it was you who was called innocent, and then I didn't push on any further with Screwby. He wasn't really online, so I couldn't make conversation when I realized my error.
Yes. No one had even mentioned the possibility of investigation before. The fact that you're so willing to have it done, applied to your scummy behavior, indicates you are confident that you will not be shown as anti-town to a cop who investigates you.3. I told the cop to check me. You immediately jumped and called "Godfather". Of course, I'm utterly confused and tell you I didn't have any honest idea that the Godfather shows as innocent to cops. You call me a liar..
I'm seriously developing a headache from all of this. I have no idea why none of you are voting her...
Guys, we should really look into posts more. I mean, I kind of agree with scruffy. Some people are being kind of derpy here. Make sure if your going to vote for someone you have a good reason. And if you see one right in front of your eyes I don't see why you guys are just ignoring it or brushing it off.
If someone suggest they found some scum, let's get rid of them. I don't see why not.
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