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    So you guys heard the story, right?

    Now with even more reason, I still think that if he was white then he would've been released, it's just sad. smh Casey Anthony got released cause she's white, period. It's also funny because this happened in Georgia, a southern state.

    Really, from I am read there was no evidence presented...O_o;;

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    Well I havn't heard so much about him besides what I read in a short notice in a newspaper yesterday. If I have understood it correctly then almost all witnesses have backed down, but there were still two left where one was also suspected of doing the crime that Troy was charged for in question? That leaves one witness, but one witness is still one witness - right? Why should he be released if it were still one "good" witness? Didn't they have any other proof on him that he was guilty? As I said, I don't know almost anything about this so I would appreciate if you could fill me in in the missing parts.



    edit: I find it hard to belive that they would execute a man without any proof only "because", especially since eyes from the rest of the world started to look at the case in question. They must have had proof on him, something, or else I don't think they would've done this.

    Do you have a link to a page where I can read some more? Perhaps.... in... not to difficult english? *wink wink*
    Now I want to know more!
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    Default Re: Troy Davis

    Well, I am still trying to gather more info, I am just stating my opinion from what I heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef Masta K View Post
    Well, I am still trying to gather more info, I am just stating my opinion from what I heard.
    But surely they can't just execute a man without any proof?

    Maybe you have just heard opinions from the people who doesn't want to see him executed, like the people that want to put an stop to the death penalty in general? Isn't it demanded to be quite solid proofs if anyone is going to be executed in America?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef Masta K View Post
    smh Casey Anthony got released cause she's white, period.
    Ms. Anthony was released because the prosecution did not have a sufficient case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeschylus View Post
    Ms. Anthony was released because the prosecution did not have a sufficient case.
    I know that. But they let her off right off the hook.

    But Troy wasn't 100% guilty and they weren't so forgiving as they were with Casey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef Masta K View Post

    But Troy wasn't 100% guilty

    How can you know that? I thought you didn't knew so much about this yourself (?).


    edit: And how can someone be " a little guilty"? Either you are guilty or you are not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuXrys View Post

    How can you know that? I thought you didn't knew so much about this yourself (?).
    I read more, there's a thread about this in another forum I go to.

    He's really not 100%, if he is then it's all good, but I'd rather avoid the heartbreak of having them announce they found a different suspect after already killing a person. That'll be terrible.

    EDIT: And no. He could of been innocent, that's what I meant.

    EDIT 2: Like, 7 out of 9 witnesses recant, and plenty of new DNA evidence was presented as well? But no, they just had to go and kill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef Masta K View Post
    I read more, there's a thread about this in another forum I go to.

    He's really not 100%, if he is then it's all good, but I'd rather avoid the heartbreak of having them announce they found a different suspect after already killing a person. That'll be terrible.

    EDIT: And no. He could of been innocent, that's what I meant.

    EDIT 2: Like, 7 out of 9 witnesses recant, and plenty of new DNA evidence was presented as well? But no, they just had to go and kill.

    Can you give me a link to that thread? I want to read some more about this matter.
    But still, in that thread do they post evidence or do they just talk about "I have heard...."?

    Still, they are witnesses left. Even if it would be just one left in the end you can not ignore the case any less.
    I still don't get how any one can be "a little guilty". If he was a part of the crime, he is guilty, end of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuXrys View Post
    Can you give me a link to that thread? I want to read some more about this matter.
    But still, in that thread do they post evidence or do they just talk about "I have heard...."?

    Still, they are witnesses left. Even if it would be just one left in the end you can not ignore the case any less.
    I still don't get how any one can be "a little guilty". If he was a part of the crime, he is guilty, end of story.
    So if he was innocent then.."Oops, oh well. We killed an innocent man but it doesn't matter, it's not like people will care?" O__o;;

    The thread is leading me to some articles, like this one:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...3BoK_blog.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef Masta K View Post
    So if he was innocent then.."Oops, oh well?" O__o;;

    No, I didn't say that.
    I just say that if they thought that the new proof was worth looking into I think they would've, specially when you think how this case started to get the attention of other countries aswell. You don't want to sent a innocent man to his death with the rest of the world watching you.

    Could I have that link you mentioned before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuXrys View Post
    No, I didn't say that.
    I just say that if they thought that the new proof was worth looking into I think they would've, specially when you think how this case started to get the attention of other countries aswell. You don't want to sent a innocent man to his death with the rest of the world watching you.

    Could I have that link you mentioned before?
    If he did commit the crime then it's whatever but it's not completely proven that he did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef Masta K View Post
    If he did commit the crime then it's whatever but it's not completely proven that he did it.
    So you don't have any link to share with me? I have find something myself then. But I think I'll do that tomorrow (late here).
    It's still hard to belive that they would let a man be executed without any proof.

    What does the news says about his executing?
    Are people angry? Upset? Do most people (not the ones demonstrating!) think that he was innocent or guilty?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuXrys View Post
    So you don't have any link to share with me? I have find something myself then. But I think I'll do that tomorrow (late here).
    It's still hard to belive that they would let a man be executed without any proof.

    What does the news says about his executing?
    Are people angry? Upset? Do most people (not the ones demonstrating!) think that he was innocent or guilty?
    I gave you a link...O_o;;;

    Here's another one I found.
    http://thestreetjournal.org/2011/09/...unfair-system/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef Masta K View Post
    I gave you a link...O_o;;;

    Here's another one I found.
    http://thestreetjournal.org/2011/09/...unfair-system/

    hahahaa! sorry I must have missed that one *face palm* I promise to read those tomorrow

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    Guess the one that personally ended Troy's life will get a medal and a big fat paycheck to live it up before joining the warden and the invited families to join them in a party afterwards, raising their glasses of champagne to the toast, "It's over." Pity though the chap's name will never be revealed to prevent stalkers from murdering him in revenge. He could've been set for the talk show circuit. (Nice life ender, good boy, here's a gold star for your record.")

    I only hope he and the Supreme Court repent for what they did. Besides, they'll just make up any excuse they like once for havin murdered what could be an not guilty man. All the taxpayers' money wasted. No wonder the nation's going broke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef Masta K View Post
    Casey Anthony got released cause she's white, period.
    No. Casey Anthony got off because the evidence was purely circumstantial - they could say what happened to Caley, and where it happened, but they could not connect her mother to it beyond a reasonable doubt. The only connection the prosecution tried to make was that Caley had a sticker on her, applied post-mortem, that came from a sticker set inside the house. All of the jurors said after the trial that they believed she was guilty, but by rule of law had to vote her not guilty. Remember "not guilty" does not mean "innocent". The vast majority of the public believed her to be guilty both before and after the trial.


    As for Davis, I have no opinion on whether or not he killed the police officer - his case was reviewed several times, the most recent in 2010 with new evidence and changes in witness testimony, and was continuously found guilty. Given that the sentence was death, I feel he should have been given a completely new trial. While I don't support capital punishment, if that's what they wanted for him they should have to be absolutely certain he was guilty.
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    Oh man, this story gave me the friggin willies *shivers*

    A week worth of reporting of the jury decrying their testimony only to end with the guy still being killed.

    This is disgusting and shameful imo, and with the whole world watching no less. Guilty/not guilty is irrelevant here, the US is the only first world nation that hasn't abolished capital punishment, and now we really are going to look like a bunch of insensitive barbarians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gjallarhorn View Post
    No. Casey Anthony got off because the evidence was purely circumstantial - they could say what happened to Caley, and where it happened, but they could not connect her mother to it beyond a reasonable doubt. The only connection the prosecution tried to make was that Caley had a sticker on her, applied post-mortem, that came from a sticker set inside the house. All of the jurors said after the trial that they believed she was guilty, but by rule of law had to vote her not guilty. Remember "not guilty" does not mean "innocent". The vast majority of the public believed her to be guilty both before and after the trial.

    As for Davis, I have no opinion on whether or not he killed the police officer - his case was reviewed several times, the most recent in 2010 with new evidence and changes in witness testimony, and was continuously found guilty. Given that the sentence was death, I feel he should have been given a completely new trial. While I don't support capital punishment, if that's what they wanted for him they should have to be absolutely certain he was guilty.
    I know the case with Casey, that's not what I meant, what I am saying is if Casey was Black or if Davis was White, things would have been slightly different. That's just my opinion.

    The whole "Black people are guilty until proven innocent" sadly it's true and it sickens me.

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    I strongly believe he was innocent.

    The incident occurred in the 1980's when there was MAJOR racial tension. Point fingers at a black guy and he was cuffed and taken. The people who once said it was Troy later said it wasn't Troy. It either was or wasn't. With the amount of people who later said it wasn't my guess is they grew some brains and realized they shouldn't be pointing fingers at him just because he was black. There was not enough SOLID HARD CORE evidence of him committing the crime so I believe death row was no place for him. I support the death row in some cases. This however is not one of them.

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    http://takeaction.amnestyusa.org/sit...049&aid=516533

    Amnesty International ran a petition and got 62,000 signatures. Link for further info on how you can help fight capital punishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueangel06661 View Post
    I strongly believe he was innocent.

    The incident occurred in the 1980's when there was MAJOR racial tension. Point fingers at a black guy and he was cuffed and taken. The people who once said it was Troy later said it wasn't Troy. It either was or wasn't. With the amount of people who later said it wasn't my guess is they grew some brains and realized they shouldn't be pointing fingers at him just because he was black. There was not enough SOLID HARD CORE evidence of him committing the crime so I believe death row was no place for him. I support the death row in some cases. This however is not one of them.
    Do you think that this case will go into the history? I mean that it will never be forgotten but still be talked about even in alot of years.

    Do you also think that he was sent to death because the person who got killed was a police, and if it hadn't been a police he would've been sent free?

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