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    Default Re: WOW! Miley Cyrus is an idiot now

    Quote Originally Posted by Animedude5555 View Post
    Miley was known for living the GOOD way, and she was considered a role model on account of this (unlike other singers like Britney Spears who always did immoral dancing). Because of this stunt she pulled, I think all she did was basically nuke her career.
    I'm sorry...when did Britney do this "immoral" dancing...define that term, because I don't understand how people can actually be offended by seeing the female body. Oh my days...she has a leg, a thigh, a belly! The scandal! My days!

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    Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I dont see anything 'edgy' about her performance. It was horrible.

    Personally I wouldnt care, but this girl is supposed to be a role model for younger girls. That I have an issue with. What if you had a daughter that started mimicking her, rubbing her groin with things, pretending to pleasure herself? I personally would flipout.

    Its fine if youre someone who isnt a role model for younger people....but when you are, especially with such a huge demographic like Disney fans watching you....this performance becomes a BIG issue
    If a parent let their child watch it, that is a different issue. But I am sure it was censored.
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    If a parent let their child watch it, that is a different issue. But I am sure it was censored.
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    Default Re: WOW! Miley Cyrus is an idiot now

    Miley is trying way too hard to break off her Disney image.

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    Default Re: WOW! Miley Cyrus is an idiot now

    Quote Originally Posted by Ωmega View Post
    Jes, dis be true
    But I was a sneaky kid, I watched a lot of things my parents didnt know about.
    Like things involving exposed boobies. Or in your case, guys without underwear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    Like things involving exposed boobies. Or in your case, guys without underwear.
    Nah, nothing like that. My parents hated a lot of the music I listened to and forbid me to listen to it, but I would sneak back the cds they took from me and watch it all online...slowly. Back then it was all dial up @_@

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    Default Re: WOW! Miley Cyrus is an idiot now

    Damn, Miley really looks like she got possessed by a demon.
     



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    Default Re: WOW! Miley Cyrus is an idiot now

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshikage Kira View Post
    Damn, Miley really looks like she got possessed by a demon.
     


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    Default Re: WOW! Miley Cyrus is an idiot now

    I don't know about you guys but I thought it was a spectacular performance. Everything from her avant-garde attire to her erotic yet hypnotic dancing had everyone in the stands enthralled by her performance. I give her performance a 10/10. Billy Ray Cyrus's achy breaky heart was mended with his overflowing proud heart by that stupendous performance. I say we are blessed as a generation to have such a courageous artist trek boldly into a new art form and I am looking foreword to seeing more of her metamorphosis into a true hollywood gem and international star!

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    Default Re: WOW! Miley Cyrus is an idiot now

    She wanted attention. She wanted everyone to talk about her. I think things went exactly as planned.
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    Default Re: WOW! Miley Cyrus is an idiot now

    It's not too late for her to change for the good...

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    Default Re: WOW! Miley Cyrus is an idiot now

    The problem is she isn't sexy and tried to do a very sexual dance.

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    Default Re: WOW! Miley Cyrus is an idiot now

    Well, the entire MTV Video Music Awards is a joke anyway. Hell, MTV in general is a big damn joke. I know a lot of people complain that they don't air music anymore, but the whole show reminds me why I am glad they don't. How the hell does One Direction beat Daft Punk?

    Let's say theoretically, MTV did play music again, they would play that crappy music along with Justin Bieber, Nicki Minaj (a wannabe Ru Paul), Lady Gaga, Lil Wayne, and One Direction and Cyrus (Gozer the Gozerian) as opposed to Kurtis Blow, Nirvana, Heavy D, The Doors, The Who and other great artists. Today, music has become more about style over substance and image over content of music. And it's frickin awful!!! At one point, Shaq used to be the lowest of what music could be outside of country music. Now the musicians of today make Shaq's music look like Beethoven!!!
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    Default Re: WOW! Miley Cyrus is an idiot now

    The problem is she isn't sexy and tried to do a very sexual dance.
    That's why I was disgusted by it. It's okay to be sexy, as long as she knows how to be sexy. The word "sexy", in my OWN definition, does not refer to wearing as less as you can and swinging the hips, but it is sexually ATTRACTIVE to others. It is obvious that most of us aren't attracted by her so-called "sexiness". Rather, most of us are disgusted.

    But still, I respect other people who have different definitions of "sexy". XD That was just mine.

    Let's say theoretically, MTV did play music again, they would play that crappy music along with Justin Bieber, Nicki Minaj (a wannabe Ru Paul), Lady Gaga, Lil Wayne, and One Direction and Cyrus (Gozer the Gozerian) as opposed to Kurtis Blow, Nirvana, Heavy D, The Doors, The Who and other great artists. Today, music has become more about style over substance and image over content of music. And it's frickin awful!!! At one point, Shaq used to be the lowest of what music could be outside of country music. Now the musicians of today make Shaq's music look like Beethoven!!!
    I guess people do have different opinions in music. I would prefer Celine Dion's music over those you listed in your post, and possibly Backstreet Boys over One Direction--maybe because I'm so old now (different genderation makes a difference). However, my sister who considers herself as a musician would prefer Nicki Minaj over Beyonce.

    Alright I'm getting off the topic now. =X


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animedude5555 View Post
    What is wrong with her? Where did all her KID FRIENDLY musical performances go?! I'm no longer a fan of her. I thought she was better than that, but I guess she's just an idiot.
    It's not that I care for MC's new direction in her performing career or anything; but with respect, she doesn't exist solely, nor is she obliged to entertain according to some social ideology as to what a good (girl) performer should be. The notion that a celebrity should be forever shackled to a career based on the socially perceived image of their company (Disney in this case) is little more than objectification to me: the reduction of a person to an object of entertainment as opposed to a free subject.

    Who are you to fix the career choice of a celebrity's life? No-one would give 2 hoots if an ordinary person changed their career several times; but the moment a celebrity decides to exercise that exact same human right, some section of society (which would include you) turns on them. It's as if the moment a celebrity becomes famous they automatically sign an invisible contract that binds them to serve the interests of a certain demographic for the rest of their natural life.

    You say "kid-friendly performances", and I can only guess that you're referring to her character counterpart, Hannah Montana. Well here's the thing: Hannah Montana is a character, an ideal; Miley Cyrus is person, a tangible being, and like any real person she's every bit as legally entitled to sexually flaunt her assets as everyone else. I'm not saying that sort of thing is appropriate for kids; hell, I'm an adult and images like that just make me go eww... but unless MC actively put up a video on the Hanna Montana website and broke the rules of her contract with Disney, it's not her problem. If kids are finding such videos through YouTube and what not, again, not her problem. I have a nephew and niece who are 3 and 6 respectively and if they use the Internet in my house, I will supervise them at all times. Sites such as YouTube are locked through parental controls (they do actually work if you learn to use them properly...). In fact, if I left them to use my computer through the accounts I created for each of them, they would be restricted to a very narrow selection of sites only appropriate for their age group. But, if you choose to project your own personal perception of HM onto MC, then get upset because MC does some sexual performance that psychologically challenges your ideals as to what a sweet innocent girl should be (which is creepy in itself...), then yet again, that's really your problem, not hers.

    I'm not a fan of MC or any of the characters she played, but I don't recall MC ever saying that she would devote her entire life to being a role model for children. And that's what really annoys me: when people try to fix some celebrity's profession because of their personal attachment to the character they played--which comes back to my original point: objectification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ParaParaJMo View Post
    Well, the entire MTV Video Music Awards is a joke anyway. Hell, MTV in general is a big damn joke. I know a lot of people complain that they don't air music anymore, but the whole show reminds me why I am glad they don't. How the hell does One Direction beat Daft Punk?

    Let's say theoretically, MTV did play music again, they would play that crappy music along with Justin Bieber, Nicki Minaj (a wannabe Ru Paul), Lady Gaga, Lil Wayne, and One Direction and Cyrus (Gozer the Gozerian) as opposed to Kurtis Blow, Nirvana, Heavy D, The Doors, The Who and other great artists. Today, music has become more about style over substance and image over content of music. And it's frickin awful!!! At one point, Shaq used to be the lowest of what music could be outside of country music. Now the musicians of today make Shaq's music look like Beethoven!!!
    Oh man, I still remember when 'music videos' were still a new thing and MTV was still in grass-roots. All the good music of that time, and once MTV was actually a legitimately good station. I'm glad there's someone else out there who shares my opinion of how mainstream music has degenerated over the last decade.


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    In an overall atmosphere of immorality that the entertainment industry promotes, I thought SHE of all people (being such a great Disney star) would rise above all the entertainment trash, and set a GOOD standard for FUTURE singers and entertainers, you know, bring back a bit of morality into the entertainment industry.
    Here is where the image of Disney comes into the picture. As a child star of Disney, the image, the good girl, that she was told or rather had to uphold was crucial to the success of her career.
    This was a young girl whom many believed was capable of single-handedly making a positive impact on the moral issues that are associated with the entertainment industry.
    However, as beautiful as it sounds, I personally believe that something like that would have never actually happen. She is in an industry that is forever changing and if she was going to make it, she has to evolve and change with it in order to be successful.
    I do not support her new image but it was inevitable that she was going to grow up. this is just the way she chose to show the world that she is now her own brand and not the brand of Disney anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ωmega View Post
    Personally I wouldnt care, but this girl is supposed to be a role model for younger girls. That I have an issue with. What if you had a daughter that started mimicking her, rubbing her groin with things, pretending to pleasure herself? I personally would flipout.
    The biggest issue I see here is that we are allowing ourselves, as well as, our children to be molded by what they see on TV or in the media. We do this by allowing them to look up to television stars and Pop icons. There is nothing wrong with appreciating their stories and them as people but the problem comes when we model ourselves based on them because we think they are "Good" people. This is in essence why this whole VMA performance, in my opinion, is such an issue.
    It is, at the end of the day, entertainment and should be just entertainment and nothing more. Entertainers should not be a bar by which you model your values because they change with the industry. It is what puts food on the table at the end of the month for them so they will do whatever it takes to be seen and for their work to sell.


    Quote Originally Posted by Animedude5555 View Post
    And I'm guessing many others will also lose interest in her on account if this perverted dance act she did...and she will make LESS money, as people STOP buying her music, on account of this graphically sexual dance move she did. Why would people boycott her, and not other entertainers? Well mainly because unlike other entertainers, who are known to be immoral anyway, Miley was known for living the GOOD way, and she was considered a role model on account of this (unlike other singers like Britney Spears who always did immoral dancing). Because of this stunt she pulled, I think all she did was basically nuke her career.
    Well, Twerking (her sexual dance move on Robin Thicke) seems to be the fashion these days, even though I think it is rather vulgar to see. She has made herself known as the 'white girl who can twerk' and I think she is going to run with that because it opens her up to a whole new audience.
    Therefore, she isn't going to be boycotted. You see, she is just going to make even more money and gain even more fans because she is now the 'good-girl-gone-bad.' That is supposed to be cool and edgy and many people believe so and out of curiosity will seek her music out and decide whether they love it or hate it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ωmega View Post
    I thought the whole thing was just trashy. She wanted her name blasted everywhere, she succeeded. Still, very very trashy.
    Yes, there was no class in that performance. If sexy was what she was aiming for, she did not achieve it. To top it all off her singing was putrid. What makes her as a performer is not her singing talent because you have singers who can performs mounds better than she ever will be able to. I feel that for this reason she needs to stand out in some way.


    Quote Originally Posted by ParaParaJMo View Post
    Let's say theoretically, MTV did play music again, they would play that crappy music along with Justin Bieber, Nicki Minaj (a wannabe Ru Paul), Lady Gaga, Lil Wayne, and One Direction and Cyrus (Gozer the Gozerian) as opposed to Kurtis Blow, Nirvana, Heavy D, The Doors, The Who and other great artists. Today, music has become more about style over substance and image over content of music. And it's frickin awful!!!
    Yes!! Music has become style over substance because in the world that we live in today it is all about BRANDS! BRANDS!! and more BRANDS!!! It's about how much money you can make and how you can wave it in other peoples faces. Yes, there are artists that still make good music but they are not mainstream. We are living in a time where success is measured in how much money you have, how many cars you own and how many women you can gain.

    So, Mtv is playing what is considered music by today's standards because they are going to limit thier audience if they would play what you have called "good" music. It is not about talent it is about money and which cute face will have the teenage girls screaming for more, as this is a huge market as well.

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    idk, i find the turkey booty attractive *throws up in mouth a little*

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathBlade/13.666 View Post
    It's called growing up. Different people do it different ways, but the results are roughly the same. She's a artist that gets by through snatching attention when and where she can get it. There's nothing new here that we haven't seen from other stars, and it won't be the last we've seen from her. She's an attention monger, and getting you to talk about her is what she does for a living. Thus mission accomplished for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathBlade/13.666 View Post
    It's called growing up. Different people do it different ways, but the results are roughly the same.
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    I'm a grown up and i've managed to keep my tongue in my mouth, and all my clothes on. Remarkably.
    But you aren't some child star that lives in the ebb-n-flow of media and stardom, and is all grown up now and trying to stay relevant in pop culture. You can try to tell me that if you're in her shoes you wouldn't do the same thing. But I can guarantee that if you're in her shoes you'll have at least a 25-50% chance of possibility doing the same exact thing or worse. Especially when we get down to brass tacks and talk how many she was paid and could make from what she did.
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    Well, she was a child star, but she had a father who is famous for making one of the most awful songs ever made, or at least one of the most awful songs ever made until the 2010s. At least lack of talent doesn't skip a generation.

    MTV Award shows beyond just one idiotic performance are more than enough proof that MTV is not an authority of what is quality music. Even their non-music shows back in the day like Beavis and Butt-Head would play music videos and they would make fun of them. I have not seen the new Beavis and Butt-Head but according to my friends, they tell me they don't play the music videos like they used to. They show clips from Jersey Shore or their reality shows instead. I'd like to see them rip the awful crappy music of today.

    Still, I don't get why One Direction getting an award over Daft Punk isn't as big a controversy?

    I just hope to God that the Grammy's don't stoop to this level.

    Once again, I will state that I hope MTV goes the direction of G4, that it just ceases to exist altogether because it is no longer functioning on what it is supposed to do.
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    If she still would've had long hair, this might not have happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ParaParaJMo View Post
    Today, music has become more about style over substance and image over content of music.
    I guess this explains why I haven't bought a single pop music CD since the year 2000.

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    I like reading this thread, Funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .:neuko:. View Post
    Not that I'm condoning MC's new direction in performing or anything, but with respect, she doesn't exist solely, nor is she obliged to entertain in a manner that suits your dogmatic ideas as to what a good (girl) performer should be. What you're saying only serves to reduce celebrities to mere objects, as if they exist to be objectified rather than be treated as individuals who are every bit as entitled to change their minds about their careers as anyone else.

    And like other members have already pointed out, what she's doing is basically no different to what other performers have done. Why should any performer whom initially entertained for some "demographic" be obliged to stay in the pigeon hole that you personally chose to put them in?
    The problem is her performance in question DID "objectify" her. It made her into a SEX OBJECT. That is degrading to herself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypatia View Post
    Well, Twerking (her sexual dance move on Robin Thicke) seems to be the fashion these days, even though I think it is rather vulgar to see. She has made herself known as the 'white girl who can twerk' and I think she is going to run with that because it opens her up to a whole new audience.
    Therefore, she isn't going to be boycotted. You see, she is just going to make even more money and gain even more fans because she is now the 'good-girl-gone-bad.' That is supposed to be cool and edgy and many people believe so and out of curiosity will seek her music out and decide whether they love it or hate it.
    Well all I know is all the comments on the news pages that have her story, that also have a comments feature, are comments AGAINST her latest act. If the majority of commenters don't like the act, that's probably a good indicator that the majority of potential customers also didn't like the act. I still stand by my comment that I think she's gonna lose money over this.

    And you say she might get a new audience, people who think that dance is "cool". But at BEST that will just be replacing her old audience (who will dump her over this) with a new audience (who will like her because of this). And at WORST, that new audience will be SMALLER than her old audience, meaning lower profits for her, possibly so much lower that it will push her out of the entertainment industry, and force her into a different career (maybe as a stripper in an "adult entertainment" establishment, where people pay to see everything she did in that dance, AND THEN SOME).
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    There's a thing called the vocal minority. People who don't care or aren't bothered aren't going to comment on it. Don't go around thinking that because there's a vocal group it makes them the majority.

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