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    Totse, just to clear something up:

    People never utter the words "Never Forget" for any reason other than they want to guilt you into something that benefits them.



    On topic: My soul will find its resting place at the side of Evening Glory, provided I'm not eternally bound to sentient undeath with my loved one first. Or maybe trailing happily behind Farlanghn as he continues on his neverending travels.
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    We are all going to Hell!(Don't ask me why!)

    Oh, Hi-deeki, imagine... your kind not eating raw fish! ^_^


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    By the standard I follow, I'll end up somewhere in Michtam.

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    I'll choose heaven. I wanna meet GOD...



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    The correct answer to the question is neither.
    Heaven and hell don't exist as actual places. They are just emotional states that mind interprets as being an actual place. It depends on location and situation.

    For instance, watching Friends is hell. Watching friends on fire is heaven.
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    If I said I was going to heaven, I would be lying to you. I don't want to lie, so the truth is I'll probably get reincarnated. Sure don't want to go to hell, even though I may have drifted down that path for a bit.


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    All humans are doomed to hell.

    Best make the most of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grod View Post
    All humans are doomed to hell.

    Best make the most of it.
    I don't know about that, but if you truly believe that is the case, then hey, more power to you.

    See you there, my friend.


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    Anyway, I almost have to go to hell. I have dinner reservations with a friend of mine.
    Ehhh, I dunno if I'll stick around. We'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden State Warrior View Post
    See you there, my friend.
    Yes.

    However, I will become a god of hell after I kill a thousand demons.

    At least that's how it happened in Disgaea. O.o

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    Most likely I will be going to Hell.

    I don't believe in God,I sort of,well not worship but......lets just say I believe in the Devil though.I'm like kitsune,I hate my father as well,I tld him he was nothing but crap,and should die.So yeah most likely I will be going to hell.But isn't living on this planet like hell already?
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    I'll avoid the theological debate, and simply answer thusly: When I die, I expect my mind, or "soul" if you will, to become nonexistant. I would compare it to a computer that has been powered down forever. (Not the best analogy, but I find it comforting.)
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    ok, let me just say first of all, I am going to Heaven and I have no doubt about that. I know this because I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as my personal Savior. There is a Heaven and a Hell, and believe me my friends, you don't wanna go to Hell. If you think Earth is Hell, then Hell itself will be millions of times worse than this. The Bible says that it will be eternal suffering and that you will be tossed into a lake of fire for all eternity. Heaven, Hell, they are both VERY real.




    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsune~girl View Post
    I think I will be going to hell, actually. Not because Im a bad person but because of those ten commandments or whatever.
    "Respect thy parents" My father is a drunk screw-up and I told him I hate him. I'd call that a violation.
    Theres the main one, but if that weren't in the way I'd probably go to heaven (I hope).
    That doesn't matter. Everyone has broken the ten commandments, God doesn't look at it as one sin or "violation" is bigger than the other, in God's eyes lieing is just as bad as murder. God hates sin, but He doesn't hate the sinners, He is willing to forgive you, even if you don't think you are "worthy" of forgiveness. Trust me, there is not one person in this earth that has NOT broken one of the ten commandments. I break them daily, but that doesn't mean I can't ask forgiveness for being human.

    Quote Originally Posted by Musaki View Post
    Heaven because I believe in God and I worship him
    I am totally with you on that one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    Though given the crowd heaven seems to attract, I'm not sure if I'd want to spend eternity there. I mean, you've got various suicide bombers, moral majority, inquisitors, terrorists, Phelps et. al., Koresh et.al.; the list just keeps rolling.
    I can't tell if you are being serious or sarcastic......those terrorists, suicide bombers, adn everyone else aren't in Heaven, let's just say that. True they believed in A god and A religion, but there id only ONE God and ONE way to Heaven.....and killing yourself is not the way to get there. "The Crowd Heaven attracts" is not your steryotypical "perfect people wo never miss a day of church" either, the crowd Heaven attracts are the people who don't want to suffer for eternity, and tehy are just as normal as you or me.

    Quote Originally Posted by oscar_encinas_pattzy View Post
    I honestly thinks that I would go to purgatory 'cause of many things I've say, and stuff... But I would go to heaven because I'm a good person, yayyyy...
    I'm sorry, but the idea that one can get to Heaven based on works is not true. If it were, God wouldn't have had to send Jesus to die on the cross for us. Nobody is perfect, and NOBODY is getting to Heaven based on good works, the Bible even says that.


    Quote Originally Posted by Beast View Post
    Personally I don't believe much in a set heaven or hell. I believe there to be many heavens and hells. When you die and are NOT reincarnated I believe you would go to your ideal heaven, and if you're bad you would go to A hell created by your worst memories. I always believed that if I wasn't reincarnated I would go to "Hell" and it would be a movie theatre where for eternity I would watch all of my memories
    Again, Heaven adn Hell are real places, and you don't go to one or the other based on works


    Quote Originally Posted by Golden State Warrior View Post
    If I said I was going to heaven, I would be lying to you. I don't want to lie, so the truth is I'll probably get reincarnated. Sure don't want to go to hell, even though I may have drifted down that path for a bit.
    Reincarnation is nonexistent, you only have one life to live, and you don't get to come back, unfortuantely. As I said earlier, it doesn't matter what you do/did, my friend's sister was on Meth for like four years, but then she came back, and God forgave her. All you have to do is ask God to forgive you, and He will.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grod View Post
    All humans are doomed to hell.

    Best make the most of it.
    That isn't true..nobody is doomed to Hell

    Quote Originally Posted by Hieko View Post
    Most likely I will be going to Hell.

    I don't believe in God,I sort of,well not worship but......lets just say I believe in the Devil though.I'm like kitsune,I hate my father as well,I tld him he was nothing but crap,and should die.So yeah most likely I will be going to hell.But isn't living on this planet like hell already?
    But you don't have to go to Hell..........I don't understand how you can believe in the Devil, but not God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaara's True Girlfriend View Post
    ok, let me just say first of all, I am going to Heaven and I have no doubt about that. I know this because I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as my personal Savior. There is a Heaven and a Hell, and believe me my friends, you don't wanna go to Hell. If you think Earth is Hell, then Hell itself will be millions of times worse than this. The Bible says that it will be eternal suffering and that you will be tossed into a lake of fire for all eternity. Heaven, Hell, they are both VERY real.
    I promised myself that I'd stay out of it... oh well. I respect your beliefs, and I respect that you believe them so strongly. But to answer your question about the devil and god, I just have to say this: Many people are used to hearing about the 'Devil', and so they associate him with everything that is unmoral and evil. We do so many unmoral things that people (even athiests) generally use talk about the 'Devil' when they talk about such things. It may not be that they believe in said 'Devil', but they do believe that they have done a lot of what he represents.
    Then again, I probably shouldn't be putting those words in other people's mouths.
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    I personally don't believe in heaven and hell. People would say, "You're going to hell because you don't believe," well, since I don't believe in it anyway, why would it matter? There are other views of the afterlife, such as reincarnation, but I personally believe that a) nothing happens--you just die, b) everyone goes to the same place.
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    I don't believe in either but in terms of the Christian belief I'm most definitely hellbound.



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    I kinda believe in reincarnation... But I don't think there's much people in Hell. I believe that God is merciful and brings some of them to Heaven after a few thousand years of they they repent. -.- this makes no sense, does it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000 View Post
    Anyway, I almost have to go to hell. I have dinner reservations with a friend of mine.
    Wasn't he referring to Hades, as opposed to X-tian Hell? While the latter borrow concepts from the former, they are not the same. For an example, Elysium is part of Hades, whilst Heaven is not part of Hell.
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    This is a stupid topic, because it's obvious.

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    Poison Ivy, you only get 1 chance to go to heaven, that's made clear. If you go to Hell, then you stay in Hell.
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    Gaara's true Girlfriend and K.F, I agree with you. i *had* typed out a whole longer post, but the comp crashed and as bad a my memory is, I can't remember everything i said, so shoot. And it was all really explanatory too...

    But I am going to heaven because I believe that the Lord Jesus died on the cross for my sins and rose from the dead 3 days afterwards. We all deserve hell, but because God is great, He gave us another option. All we have to do is believe.

    Acts 16:25-31 (KJV)
    25. And at midnight Paul and Silas prayed, and sang praises unto God: and the prisoners heard them.
    26. And suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken: and immediately all the doors were opened, and every one's bands were loosed.
    27. And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled.
    28. But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here.
    29. Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,
    30. And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
    31. And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.


    I would have just put verses 30-31, but then it would have been harder to understand what they were talking about. This reply doesn't explain as mush as Gaara's, but it's the best I could do.


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    I was reading that like 2 days ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by erised_lily View Post
    But I am going to heaven because I believe that the Lord Jesus died on the cross for my sins and rose from the dead 3 days afterwards. We all deserve hell, but because God is great, He gave us another option. All we have to do is believe.
    That is dubious reasoning. What of the people who were on the other side of the planet when Jesus was crusified. Do they also deserve hell for merely being the same species as the romans? And let's not forget the people born two thousand years later? How are they even remotely involved?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    That is dubious reasoning. What of the people who were on the other side of the planet when Jesus was crusified. Do they also deserve hell for merely being the same species as the romans? And let's not forget the people born two thousand years later? How are they even remotely involved?
    Don't forget all the people who died before Jesus came around to save them. Moses is rotting in hell because he didn't Accept Jesus Christ As His Personal Savior™.
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