Pearl harbor 69th anniversary

[Kyubi-no-kitsune]

this was a terrible day in the history of america, i think it ranks up there with 9/11 and i just thought i would make this thread to thank the brave men who died in pearl harbor and in todays conflicts, god bless the military

[Wio]

I commend you. There's nothing more refreshing than a Pearl Harbor tribute on an otaku forum.

[Meenah]

I commend you. There's nothing more refreshing than a Pearl Harbor tribute on an otaku forum.

They'll love Japan no matter what, or just deny that it had happened. Meh, idk.

[Eris]

Given that barely anyone is even alive to remember WWII, I say it's time to stop brooding over it and let the past be the past.


That includes stopping the ceaseless production of movies about the people surrounding Hitler. Nobody cares about Hitler's car mechanic, bartender, nanny, or dentist. We barely cared about the people who were actually involved in the politics.

[Anoleis]

Given that barely anyone is even alive to remember WWII, I say it's time to stop brooding over it and let the past be the past.

We are not brooding over it. Pearl Harbor is not celebrated, we don't have parties. We remember those who lost their lives that day, nothing more.

That includes stopping the ceaseless production of movies about the people surrounding Hitler. Nobody cares about Hitler's car mechanic, bartender, nanny, or dentist. We barely cared about the people who were actually involved in the politics.

Hollywood is a whole different can of something noxious.

I commend you. There's nothing more refreshing than a Pearl Harbor tribute on an otaku forum.

I seriously doubt anyone here is going to question whether or not Pearl Harbor happened... I'm hoping no one is that stupid~

[DOOM!]

Sheesh, what suckers! They had it coming, dammit! It was war, whad'you expect? Care to sigh to every ambush and lost field battle that all the fighting countries had? I think not. So what makes Pearl Harbor so special? "We didn't see them comming, boo hoo hoo"? Tough luck, surprise is an element of battle!
Is PH even slightly comparable to, say, Nagasaki? Shut it!

[~*Red*~]

Rest In Peace to all of the lost souls on December 7, 1941, and especially to the crew of the battleship U.S.S. Arizona

[Cobra Commander]

There's a problem with comparing Pearl Harbor to 9/11. Pearl Harbor was a sneak attack on military targets. 9/11 was a cowardly attack on civilians. After Peark Harbor, we fought the Japanese, and they came out and fought with bravery and honor. After 9/11 we attacked Afghanistan and Iraq, and for the most part they've hidden in their Mosques, behind their women and children, and all around fought like cowards.

[Bulf]

I didn't know what it was until I wiki'd it a few minutes ago. Hard to believe I'm American, isn't it?

[Cobra Commander]

Not really, but it's hard to believe you didn't learn about it in school.

[Bulf]

Not really, but it's hard to believe you didn't learn about it in school.

I failed history/social studies every year I've ever taken it, so I probably heard about it but forgot.

[DOOM!]

I failed history/social studies every year I've ever taken it, so I probably heard about it but forgot.

It's really nothing of value that needs to be reminded anyway.

[SigmaSD]

So what makes Pearl Harbor so special?

I think it was the fact that Cuba Gooding Jr got a hold of a turret and started taking down Japanese planes. I mean...how awesome is that.

It was also an omen as to what Ben Affleck had to offer.

[Haoie]

And they made a bad movie about it too.

Hmm, guess it's not all bad if Mr Bay could do worse.

[TheyCallMeFei]

god bless the military

Whose military are we talking about here? Not that it makes a difference.

[Eris]

There's a problem with comparing Pearl Harbor to 9/11. Pearl Harbor was a sneak attack on military targets. 9/11 was a cowardly attack on civilians. After Peark Harbor, we fought the Japanese, and they came out and fought with bravery and honor. After 9/11 we attacked Afghanistan and Iraq, and for the most part they've hidden in their Mosques, behind their women and children, and all around fought like cowards.

The reason they're hiding among civilians is because they are civilians. And since when did Iraq have anything to do with 9/11?

[Wio]

The reason they're hiding among civilians is because they are civilians. And since when did Iraq have anything to do with 9/11?

I think Cobra has a problem with their being militant while remaining citizens, as opposed being militant and forming a distinguished military.

[Skylar1]

If we had to commemorate every major war event.. the calenders would get a lot fuller.

It suffices to learn it at least once from history books, and then move on with our lives.

[under the rain]

I find it funny that Americans throw a fit over Pearl Harbor, an attack with 57 civilian casualties and a Japanese Tactical Victory, which is tragic no doubt. However, they completely ignore the minimum 150,000 civillian casualties of the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Or, you could use a much better example of Japanese cruelty in WWII, the Rape of Nanjing, with civilian casualties well into 200,000.

So yeah, Americans are a bit whiny, now aren't they?

[Anoleis]

I find it funny that Americans throw a fit over Pearl Harbor, an attack with 57 civilian casualties and a Japanese Tactical Victory, which is tragic no doubt. However, they completely ignore the minimum 150,000 civillian casualties of the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Or, you could use a much better example of Japanese cruelty in WWII, the Rape of Nanjing, with civilian casualties well into 200,000.

Alls fair in love and War~

So yeah, Americans are a bit whiny, now aren't they?

Implying Americans make any notice of the Anniversary of Pearl Harbor other than too say that it happened.

[under the rain]

Alls fair in love and War~


Implying Americans make any notice of the Anniversary of Pearl Harbor other than too say that it happened.

They do, actually. Now, perhaps it's because I live in Texas, but Pearl Harbor day was a big deal. Lots of crazy sentiments, lots of whining. It was obnoxious as heck.

[Anoleis]

They do, actually. Now, perhaps it's because I live in Texas, but Pearl Harbor day was a big deal. Lots of crazy sentiments, lots of whining. It was obnoxious as heck.

Whining? Saying that we're sad because more than 2000 people were ambushed and killed is whining?

[under the rain]

Whining? Saying that we're sad because more than 2000 people were ambushed and killed is whining?

Yes. I'm saying that it's whining.

A large tactical victory isn't a reason to complain years later.. I mean, I sincerely doubt that Mexicans have a San Jacinto Day in which they complain that the Texans were able to outmaneuver them in a single battle. I doubt the Russians and Austrians have an Austerlitz day, and by the way, Russian and Austrian casualties at Austerlitz were 7.5 times those of the Americans at Pearl Harbor.

[Anoleis]

A large tactical victory isn't a reason to complain years later..

Japan remembers our victory over them, the anniversary of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Is that whining?

I mean, I sincerely doubt that Mexicans have a San Jacinto Day in which they complain that the Texans were able to outmaneuver them in a single battle.

No, but you can't compare The Battle of San Jacinto to Pearl Harbor; other than people were killed in both. Also Texas does celebrate San Jacinto day; I'm guessing in the same way that the rest of the country celebrates Independence Day.

I doubt the Russians and Austrians have an Austerlitz day, and by the way, Russian and Austrian casualties at Austerlitz were 7.5 times those of the Americans at Pearl Harbor.

Again, this was a battle, Pearl Harbor was an ambush.

Besides, speeches and sentiments given are normal to any tragedy.

[under the rain]

Japan remembers our victory over them, the anniversary of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Is that whining?

No. All of the victims of the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were civillian casualties, not only that, but the casualty rate is at least sixty times the total casualty rate and several thousand times the civilian casualty rate.

No, but you can't compare The Battle of San Jacinto to Pearl Harbor; other than people were killed in both. Also Texas does celebrate San Jacinto day; I'm guessing in the same way that the rest of the country celebrates Independence Day.

Um... yes I can. Both were skillful ambushes with casualties in the thousands. Also, I live in Texas, and I can safely say that we've never celebrated a San Jacinto day.

Again, this was a battle, Pearl Harbor was an ambush.

Irrelevant. Not only that, but invalidates what you said earlier. So if the 2,000 casualties of Pearl Harbor had been expected it wouldn't have mattered?

Besides, speeches and sentiments given are normal to any tragedy.

Well then why not pick a more worthwhile tragedy? For example, the Battle of the bulge. 19,000 American casualties. Iwo Jima? 6,000 American casualties.

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