The problem with "Pride"

[Skylar1]

Because Eric doesn't want to derail his own thread. Branched from this thread.

Well, "pride" implies accomplishment. Ex: "look at this pretty picture I drew! I'm so proud of myself".

Since no one -chooses- their gender, it's interesting how you can be proud of it.

Kind of like being proud of... your zip code, or something.

Well, you don't choose your nationality/ethnicity either, but there is a lot of "Asian Pride", "Italian Pride", "Mexican Pride", groups/mentalities, so how is that any different?

It's not. And I consider those things to be just as fallacious all the same.

Imo, people really need to get over themselves.

Well, that's incredibly lame. Ethnicity and gender are obviously different, but there's no reason you shouldn't be proud of your cultural pride.

Pride is a feeling of self-respect and personal worth; it's not just based on accomplishments. So that's fallacious.

But, what if I wanted "Spanish Pride" or to be proud of being Chinese, or something?

I can't. Because I am white, and one can not change their own ethnicity.

If it can not be changed, nor choose, for what purpose or reason does one have to feel a sense of Hubris?

As for gender, I can see how being "proud" is a bit odd, but I don't know. Cultural pride isn't necessarily a bad thing as long as it doesn't harm anyone else.

Because it divides and separates us. It's basically "I'm glad I'm X ethnicity".. which is another way of saying "I'm glad I'm -not- anything but the ethnicity that I am"; which is a reflection on all other ethnicitys.

Persons should be neutral to what they are, otherwise, "pride" can easily become hate and prejudice, which it often does.