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    Default North Korea Vs South Korea. It's showtime!

    So, As most of you know, N. Korea went and shelled the hell out of S. Korea.
    And now the U.S and S. Korea are doing war games or drills which pisses N. Korea off.
    So I want to hear from you.
    How do you feel the United states and other countries (namely Russia and the UK.) should act on this?
    Do you feel a war is upon us?


    Also:
    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/as...crisis/?hpt=T1




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    Default Re: North Korea Vs South Korea. It's showtime!

    I say the other countries should NOT butt in. However, though, the US is obliged to help SK due to some kind of pact signed who knows when, and China definitely will not do absolutely nothing when NK gets invaded...

    Russia and the UK shouldn't do anything, though. Especially the UK. I mean, what do they have to do with NK?!

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    Default Re: North Korea Vs South Korea. It's showtime!

    I'm slightly disgusted in the "it's showtime" in the title War is never a good thing and should never be taken lightly. Also the U.S. should just keep their butt out of other peoples business. But they fail to listen.


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    Default Re: North Korea Vs South Korea. It's showtime!

    It's obviously of interest for the entire region (including China) for the North Korea situation to settle down. War isn't the ideal solution (I'd prefer to see China strong arming NK into settling down), but it may come war if that doesn't happen.

    But it should also be noted that NK's actions can be partially explained as a reaction to the very provocative fleet posturing from SK and the US (under the banner of a military exercise.) But as Kim is likely surrounded by an entourage of yes-men, one can expect he has quite a distorted world view (especially when it comes to the military capabilities of NK).



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    Default Re: North Korea Vs South Korea. It's showtime!

    With diplomatic negotiations having just begun between China and North Korea, as well as several other countries, one can only hope that they'll be able to resolve these building tensions. However, I can't say I'm thrilled about the U.S. having sent in more of its fleet in an attempt to try and strong-arm NK. These aren't the kind of people that respond well to such tactics; as their latest attack on SK demonstrates. But then when one's dealing with a country that utilizes fear in its rule and intentionally strikes out at areas where civilians could be, and were, killed, you can't exactly play it low-key.

    It really is a mess, to be perfectly honest. I can only hope that these negotiations will turn out in the region's favor and that there won't be any further casualties.

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    Default Re: North Korea Vs South Korea. It's showtime!

    i don't care just as long as we ditch the dumb yanks and side with the Chinese.

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    Default Re: North Korea Vs South Korea. It's showtime!

    Quote Originally Posted by blueangel06661 View Post
    I'm slightly disgusted in the "it's showtime" in the title War is never a good thing and should never be taken lightly.
    I meant stuff is going down.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    (I'd prefer to see China strong arming NK into settling down),
    This^

    Quote Originally Posted by animeyay View Post
    I say the other countries should NOT butt in. However, though, the US is obliged to help SK due to some kind of pact signed who knows when, and China definitely will not do absolutely nothing when NK gets invaded...

    Russia and the UK shouldn't do anything, though. Especially the UK. I mean, what do they have to do with NK?!
    The South Korea and United States agreed military alliance in 1953. They called as "the relationship forged in blood".

    Seems when ever sticks are thrown US and the UK have each others back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    But it should also be noted that NK's actions can be partially explained as a reaction to the very provocative fleet posturing from SK and the US (under the banner of a military exercise.).
    Agreed. As serious as this is, I can't help but compare South Korea's running to the US (after pretty much starting the issue) to a little brother running to his mom because big brother hit him after one too many hours of pestering; now the big brother is in trouble with mom and pissed off as hell because little brother started it.
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    Default Re: North Korea Vs South Korea. It's showtime!

    war is never a good thing my aunt was born and grew up during the korean war she saw horrible things for example in the winter time during the war the ground was frozen so hard that they couldnt bury the deceased and they piled up on the side of the road that my aunt walked to school on, she is 65 and still has nightmares to this day about it, war's should only be used as a final option when peace doesnt work
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    Default Re: North Korea Vs South Korea. It's showtime!

    I think USMC + SK = Victory.

    I also think the Chinese will eventually force a regime change very quietly. I don't care if China takes over, at least they're not insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra Commander View Post
    I think USMC + SK = Victory.
    The concern isn't so much with defeating NK, which while militaristic as hell, they really have a relatively small fighting force, and general poverty and squalor makes Iraq-type scenarios unlikely. The concern is what happens with their supposed nukes in the meantime.
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    War is never a first option. I guess people are forgetting that NK has got hundreds, if not thousands of missles, aimed at Seoul and if SK and NK were to go to war, SK would suffer much more than NK (let's face it, NK has nothing to loose in comparison to SK). I guess it is pretty good strategy to conduct the war games, especially with US's top class aircraft carrier. Not only it would give NK a fair warning of it's consequences but it would also serve as a rude awakening to the Chinese of the fact that if they don't contain their so-called ally, US presence in the region would only increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalAce View Post
    War is never a first option. I guess people are forgetting that NK has got hundreds, if not thousands of missles, aimed at Seoul and if SK and NK were to go to war, SK would suffer much more than NK (let's face it, NK has nothing to loose in comparison to SK). I guess it is pretty good strategy to conduct the war games, especially with US's top class aircraft carrier. Not only it would give NK a fair warning of it's consequences but it would also serve as a rude awakening to the Chinese of the fact that if they don't contain their so-called ally, US presence in the region would only increase.
    Good strategy? Besides actually attacking NK, I couldn't think of a worse move. It adds even more tension to a situation that's already fragile as hell. The US+SK demonstration of might forces NK to do the same (shelling contested territory), as anything else would make them look weak. All of this causes the situation to spiral further out of control.

    In other circumstances, this type of intimidation is reasonable, but as NK is scared of western invasion as it is, all this does is send them into irrational panic-mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    Good strategy? Besides actually attacking NK, I couldn't think of a worse move. It adds even more tension to a situation that's already fragile as hell. The US+SK demonstration of might forces NK to do the same (shelling contested territory), as anything else would make them look weak. All of this causes the situation to spiral further out of control.

    In other circumstances, this type of intimidation is reasonable, but as NK is scared of western invasion as it is, all this does is send them into irrational panic-mode.
    And all the reason why the Chinese need to do something in this fragile situation. I particular don't think the Chinese are that stupid to just keep on being quiet for a longer period of time. Well, I don't think they'll do anything to condemn the NK but the least they could do is use it's soft power over NK and if they are not able to so, then their credibility as a potential and responsible super power would gradually erode.

    So I still think it was a good strategy and let's fact it, yet again, the top military power of NK is no where near that single aircraft carrier stationed over there. The NK knows this, the SK knows this and the Chinese way hell knows this. I think it would be particularly way stupid if anyone were to act rashly now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalAce View Post
    So I still think it was a good strategy and let's fact it, yet again, the top military power of NK is no where near that single aircraft carrier stationed over there. The NK knows this, the SK knows this and the Chinese way hell knows this. I think it would be particularly way stupid if anyone were to act rashly now.
    North Korea doesn't seem like the sort of regime just to surrender. Intimidation is a way of pushing someone towards a desired direction. This point has been sorely neglected, as there is no where for NK to go. They are cornered, making it all the more likely they will indeed do something stupid. Like go down guns blazing, which is an alarming prospect if they do have nukes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ★ Tobifreed ★ View Post
    Seems when ever sticks are thrown US and the UK have each others back.
    this is scary, why can't we just agree with the EU and not do whatever the americans tell us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalAce View Post
    So I still think it was a good strategy and let's fact it, yet again, the top military power of NK is no where near that single aircraft carrier stationed over there. The NK knows this, the SK knows this and the Chinese way hell knows this. I think it would be particularly way stupid if anyone were to act rashly now.
    Indeed it would be stupid, which is all the more reason to calm the situation down rather than increase the tension in an already volatile situation by performing military exercises in their face.

    Yes, NK's military power has almost no comparison when it comes to the combined might of SK and the United States, plus the other countries who are also condemning NK. However, NK is very militaristic (they still have the fifth largest military and largest percentage of military personnel per capita) and are lead by a man with a HUGE ego (his official title, not even joking, is "Supreme Leader"). To think that they would easily surrender is terribly misguided (in case anyone hasn't noticed, military exercises are precisely what caused NK to act in the first place).

    If this ends up in war, it will get bad (REALLY bad) before everything is all said and done.
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    Default Re: North Korea Vs South Korea. It's showtime!

    I'll just leave this here ; )


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    There will be no stage shows, no war, nothing. Pfft. They just can't afford it. If it ever happens, though. They might count in Lady China.


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    I suggest they give them to me, so that I can sell them to Iran. I don't think they'd wipe out their own people down south, so they'd launch at us - I don't know if they have that kind of range - or Japan. We'd have to find their facilities and storage, etc, and blow it to hell prior to the fighting.

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    I hate wars! Anything but them.

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    Leave NK alone. My friend has a theory that they will create some kind of Zerg-like creatures if left unsupervised for long enough. Now, say what you will about the Zerg, but they'd sure as hell make the world an interesting place.


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    Default Re: North Korea Vs South Korea. It's showtime!

    ...Been coming for a long time now.

    Honestly, if the US bothers to get involved, perhaps some country will back up NK...if they're willing to risk the wrath of other countries, of course.
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    Default Re: North Korea Vs South Korea. It's showtime!

    The threat of nuclear weapons coming into play here will probably keep everyone put. It's the same as during the cold war, if you push the button, you can kiss the world goodbye. As for everyone else, we should simply keep our noses out of this, and hope for the best. (The involvement of other countries would only make NK feel more threatened.)
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    Default Re: North Korea Vs South Korea. It's showtime!

    We should stop beating around the bush and just go to war. Frankly, I'm sick and tired of hearing about them. We're going to go to war with them anyway, so why wait. Sorry if this post is off-putting to some, but that's how I feel.

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