Strongest Dragonball Villain?

[TheThunderBringer]

I don't know much about Dragonball (normal, Z or GT), so can anyone tell me who THE strongest villain is? And I guess, while you're at it, the strongest good guy?

Thanks in advance.

[Marius2000]

There isn't really a simple answer to your questions because you have a lot of different factor to think about. There is fusion, absorbtion and other kinds of transformations. Also I have seen DB, DBZ and GT (years ago) but I am not claiming to be an expert so I am sure someone will be able to give a better answer, but I'll give my opinion.

Okay but from what I know the strongest bad guy was Omega Shenron or maybe one of Majin Buu's forms.
Stongest good guy non-fusion SSJ 4 Goku. Stongest with fusion Goku fused with Vegeta to make Gogeta.
Also the strongest good guy changes depending on what point in the series you are looking at because at the end of the Cell saga, Gohan was clearly the strongest good guy... if he was angry enough.
You know I am not sure if this is really helping or not so I am going to just stop now.

[TheThunderBringer]

Oh yeah, forgot about Shenron. Thanks a lot, that helps.

[SigmaSD]

Strongest hero: SS4 Gogeta
Strongest villain: Supped up Omega Shenron

[Kaitou+]

They are non-cannon, thus they don't exist, meaning they aren't the strongest.

Strongest Hero: Super Vegeto.
Strongest Villian: Super Buu (Gohan)

[SigmaSD]

They are non-cannon, thus they don't exist, meaning they aren't the strongest.

Strongest Hero: Super Vegeto.
Strongest Villian: Super Buu (Gohan)

Actually Kid Buu was stronger than Super Buu: Gohan absorbed. Because Super Buu had the original supreme kai inside him, but once they took the original buu out of him then there was nothing holding him back.

Then again, all that was pretty confusing.

[Kaitou+]

Dangerous =/= Strenght.

Kid Buu was the most dangerous villian, but Super Boohan was the strongest. SSJ3 Goku at Full Power could have easily destroy Kid Buu, and Mystic Gohan>Kid Buu, so Mystic Gohan>SSJ3 Goku.

[SigmaSD]

Dangerous =/= Strenght.

Kid Buu was the most dangerous villian, but Super Boohan was the strongest. SSJ3 Goku at Full Power could have easily destroy Kid Buu, and Mystic Gohan>Kid Buu, so Mystic Gohan>SSJ3 Goku.

Well your argument still falls invalid because when you look back in the episodes, when they escape Super buus body as it is changing to kid buu, the remark that instead of lowering down his power like before, it was in fact raising it.

[Kaitou+]

No, it doesn't.

Kibito said it himself...."That's the most dangerous Buu you'll face" Or something among those lines.

Super Buu(In General)>Kid Buu.
You can also see how Super Bootenks was demolishing SSJ3 Goku. And when Goku was fighting Kid Buu, he actually stood a chance.

[SigmaSD]

No, it doesn't.

Kibito said it himself...."That's the most dangerous Buu you'll face" Or something among those lines.

Super Buu(In General)>Kid Buu.
You can also see how Super Bootenks was demolishing SSJ3 Goku. And when Goku was fighting Kid Buu, he actually stood a chance.

Well Super Buutenks or whatever and SSJ3 Goku didn't fight for such a long time, so its hard to determine that. And if Goku actually stood a chance then he would have taken Kid buu out ASAP, but he didn't cause he didn't have enough energy. You also have to take into account that Kid Buu WANTED to fight Goku, which is why he was using instant transmission to look for him. Super Buu WAS smarter than Kid buu, but not stronger.

[Kaitou+]

If you actually read my previous post. I said that SSJ3 Goku at Full Power could of easily beat Kid Buu.

They didn't fight because their priority was to use the potora fusion to make...Gokuhan(Name of the Fusion). If Kid Buu was stronger than Super Buu, Kid Buu would have demolish Goku any day. This is the logic, Sigma.
Mystic Gohan>SSJ3 Goku
Super Bootenks>Mystic Gohan
If Super Bootenks is stronger than Mystic Gohan, which is stronger than SSJ3 Goku and...

SSJ3 Goku>Kid Buu.

How the hell is Kid Buu>Super Boohan?

[SigmaSD]

If you actually read my previous post. I said that SSJ3 Goku at Full Power could of easily beat Kid Buu.

They didn't fight because their priority was to use the potora fusion to make...Gokuhan(Name of the Fusion). If Kid Buu was stronger than Super Buu, Kid Buu would have demolish Goku any day. This is the logic, Sigma.
Mystic Gohan>SSJ3 Goku
Super Bootenks>Mystic Gohan
If Super Bootenks is stronger than Mystic Gohan, which is stronger than SSJ3 Goku and...

SSJ3 Goku>Kid Buu.

How the hell is Kid Buu>Super Boohan?

Hmm... Guess there is only one way to settle this.

Super Buu: Gohan Absorbed power stage 5 vs Kid buu power stage 4. Kid buu wins!!!

[Kaitou+]

That's your best argument, Siggy-chan?

Remember you're arguing against Kaitou-sama.

Learn your stuff, people.

[SigmaSD]

That's your best argument, Siggy-chan?

Remember you're arguing against Kaitou-sama.

Learn your stuff, people.

You just can't come up with a counter argument.

I wins!!! YAY!!!!

[Kaitou+]

Yes, those CCG are the most inaccurate piece or carton I seen.
Siggy-chan loses. =3

[SigmaSD]

Yes, those CCG are the most inaccurate piece or carton I seen.
Siggy-chan loses. =3

How are the CCGs any less accurate than the show?

Hmm!!! *scratches KK's eyes out*

[Kaitou+]

Because they are. They could also be going by your logic, or just because Kid Buu is the latest villian in DBZ, that makes him the strongest.

Wrooooooong. *slaps*

[FlashD]

...
-シグマSD and Kaitou Kid, I don't know how to comment the 47 posts I had to delete, but you both get an infraction for this.

[lVersusl]

Not counting GT, but everyother Dragon ball series episode or movie, THE strongest of ALL villains it's Broly.

Broly's power level was 10,000 as a baby.. and he's power-level increases every minute, if broly hadn't died his power-level would have surpassed anyone's by now including Super perfect cell and Super buu, but as awalys he underestimated Goku leading to his demise.

Also let's say he didn't underestimated Goku, Broly has enough power to destroy galaxies.. and I quote "GALAXIES" do you know how much is that? if Broly fought 100% nobody would ever even touch him.

And if you want to know the strongest non-movie character(not including GT) It's Super Boohan.



Hero? Goku, duh?


EDIT:

Responding to the argument above about Super Boohan being weaker than Kid buu, Yes Super Boohan is stronger but his heart isn't pure evil like Kid buu's in a fight, Kid buu would demolish Super Boohan just because Super Boohan has the weaker heart and weaker bloodlust.

[SigmaSD]

Responding to the argument above about Super Boohan being weaker than Kid buu, Yes Super Boohan is stronger but his heart isn't pure evil like Kid buu's in a fight, Kid buu would demolish Super Boohan just because Super Boohan has the weaker heart and weaker bloodlust.

But but but... Super Boohan has Piccolo absorbed inside him. So wouldn't Piccolo's smarts tell him "hey, this midget guy is going to kill you, go all out."

[lVersusl]

But but but... Super Boohan has Piccolo absorbed inside him. So wouldn't Piccolo's smarts tell him "hey, this midget guy is going to kill you, go all out."

If he listened to that so called "smart side of Piccolo" I don't think Vegito would've given him such a hard time, lol.

[Anime-Prince]

Not counting GT, but everyother Dragon ball series episode or movie, THE strongest of ALL villains it's Broly.

Broly's power level was 10,000 as a baby.. and he's power-level increases every minute, if broly hadn't died his power-level would have surpassed anyone's by now including Super perfect cell and Super buu, but as awalys he underestimated Goku leading to his demise.

Also let's say he didn't underestimated Goku, Broly has enough power to destroy galaxies.. and I quote "GALAXIES" do you know how much is that? if Broly fought 100% nobody would ever even touch him.

And if you want to know the strongest non-movie character(not including GT) It's Super Boohan.



Hero? Goku, duh?


EDIT:

Responding to the argument above about Super Boohan being weaker than Kid buu, Yes Super Boohan is stronger but his heart isn't pure evil like Kid buu's in a fight, Kid buu would demolish Super Boohan just because Super Boohan has the weaker heart and weaker bloodlust.

I understand what your trying to point out.. but surely since the OP asked for the strongest villain throughout the entire DB,DBZ,DBGT, it would be Omega Shenron. Your support of Broly, is somewhat invalid as it doesn't answer the question.

[SigmaSD]

Anime-Prince is right though, we didn't pay attention to the OP. But either way, some of us don't consider GT part of the DBZ universe. lol.

And Versus is being mean, you just teamed up with Kaitou-sama cause you want to make him right. Kaitou-sama always wins Sigma.

[lVersusl]

Anime-Prince is right though, we didn't pay attention to the OP. But either way, some of us don't consider GT part of the DBZ universe. lol.

And Versus is being mean, you just teamed up with Kaitou-sama cause you want to make him right. Kaitou-sama always wins Sigma.

Thank you, and the other thing you said it's not true! lol.

I understand what your trying to point out.. but surely since the OP asked for the strongest villain throughout the entire DB,DBZ,DBGT, it would be Omega Shenron. Your support of Broly, is somewhat invalid as it doesn't answer the question.

Technicaly speaking, It's Omega.




And you can ask anyone but nobody knows Broly's power-level, Broly can destroy galaxies while other villains just destroy planets, Kid buu can eventualy destroy the Galaxy but Broly destroyed a whole Galaxy not planet after planet.

If Broly never got cocky against Goku and won, his power-level would have un-doubtly surpassed anyone in the DBZ franchise, as the legendary super saiyan Broly is the only villain that does not need to train/absorb or artificialy gain power to become stronger, hes power-level slowly grows as he becomes older.



Goku: 60,000,000
Broly: 25,000,000
Broly SS: 60,000,000
Broly LSS: 70,000,000(and growing)

Now that was(by speculation) Broly's "possible" power-level by that time,
Now think when Goku got help from the others Goku probably reached 80,000,000 to finish Broly off, but that speculated power-level of Broly is not at it's max considering "he doesn't have a limit" Perfect cell would probably have over 100,000,000 most likely, if Broly stayed alive until Cell arrived Broly's power-level wouldve exceeded 100,000,000 in no time.



I'm simply pointing out this particular villain for the reader to understand his power.(Alot of people have Broly overrated)


Dragon ball:

Hero: Goku
Villain: Piccolo

Dragon Ball z:

Hero: Vegito
Villain: Super Boohan

Dragon ball GT:

Hero. Gogeta ss4
Villain: Omega Shenron

Movies:

Hero: Gogeta
Villain: Broly(unless we're talking about their actualy power-level not considering that fact that he becomes stronger by time, the strongest would be Hirudegarn)


But Movie villains aren't really considered part of the actual story(other than Janemba) so I'm done with this thread.

[SigmaSD]

And you can ask anyone but nobody knows Broly's power-level, Broly can destroy galaxies while other villains just destroy planets, Kid buu can eventualy destroy the Galaxy but Broly destroyed a whole Galaxy not planet after planet.

To counter this point, Kid Buu didn't destroy galaxies because he was searching for Goku. Otherwise he would have destroyed the whole galaxy if he wanted to.

And even though Kid buu is not in my top 5 DBZ characters, I still like him. But then they had to go and make him reborn as Ubb. *grumbles*