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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikahcho View Post
    Why not step out of your comfort zone? Try entering something that interests you less. When you say a theme doesn't interest you, it makes it sound as though you're indirectly indicating that you'd find it difficult to work around such a theme. That's not the sign of a good GFXer, IMO. If you were a decent sig maker, you'd be able to use a lot of themes effectively. But that's my opinion. And I do understand where you're coming from with the freestyle argument, to counter this, I suggest that the winner of every SOTW chooses the next theme. Wouldn't that be a little more interesting?
    Um, he made several points that it's just a hobby

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Um, he made several points that it's just a hobby
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Gaga View Post
    Honestly, I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to the moderator, if you are a moderator, please log into your name, and provide me with the answers I am seeking. Oh, you aren't? Then how is it possible you know what goes on behind the scenes here?
    Usually when you post on a public forum, you are addressing the public.


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    So, can we at least make it to SOTW 90? I'll start a petition if I have to.
     
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    I'd sign. In big comic sans font too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    I'd sign. In big comic sans font too.
    That wouldn't win you any votes, would it? Since we all agree that comic sans sucks...

    I just want the results for SOTW #89.

    @Lavos: I totally agree. o_O


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    ^Count the votes? O_o
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikahcho View Post
    ^Count the votes? O_o
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    Im not speaking on behalf of Serated, but I figured Id give you all a little update on what him and I discussed.

    I suggested a new form of SOTW which he -seemed- to like the idea of [not sure if he'll actually go with it though], so yes, SOTW will continue.

    Right now its on hold till the forum update [at least, that was his decision from when we last spoke].

    Just be a little patient =3

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    Don't suppose you could possible clue us in on what the new form of SOTW will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    Don't suppose you could possible clue us in on what the new form of SOTW will be.

    Nope

    *Image related*


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    Alright, I have been thinking it over, and here is the general set up I am looking at.

    The SOTW will be divided into 2 Tiers, Rookie and Regular (or until I think up better names). The system will be set up in a way that both tiers will be generally separated from one another in the week, like the Rookie SOTW will be every Friday, and the Regular on Sunday so there's a little leeway.

    That said, I am not sure how this would be organized. Whether or not people would rather just cluster the two on the same day and you send me entries and I judge whether they belong in the higher or lower tier, or if people would rather decide that for yourselves.


    I am still not sure on the voting, but I think it would be best to leave that up to you guys, and there are 1 of 3 options I think will work.

    1; Voting remains the same, but votes will be more strictly monitored for copies of other votes, or miscellaneous crap. You will also be required to write out a longer reason for your choice instead of one single sentence on the basis of liking a signature because of text.


    2; a panel of judges made up of myself, some Modmins and Members that will determine the winner based on quality. The panel will circulate so occasionally if a Judge wishes to, they may enter a SOTW. The panel will be around 9 people, and every week, 3 people will make the judgment at the end of the week.


    3; A merger of both the above. However this makes things a little more complicated, because there would be more than one winner, a 'Voters Choice' and a 'Judges Choice.' The Member votes would count in the same manner as they were before.




    Now, this is all still theory. I havent written out the new template or set up any sort a rewards system to whoever win because I would much rather you guys decide. If you do like any of the above options, you're free to tell me so.

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    I kinda like number three. As long as the judges don't purposely pick something different from the voters choice. And you set up a rule that people have to say what they like and/or didn't like about the sigs. That way the people who enter can improve for the next one. Be ideal if this was mandatory for the rookie competition since they're still learning not only sig making but the ins and outs of either photoshop or gimp. The judges should also have to say what they liked and didn't like about the entries and should consist of people who have solid experience with sig making. You may not get a full nine like you intended but the judges should at least know what they're talking about. People like .bee or Hyphen would be a good pick. And the rewards idea should be canned. SOTW is supposed to be fun and a way to improve. Not for some shinny trophy. Though you could do Sig of the Month (SOTM) where the four best sigs from the competition compete. If someone wins twice in a month then they have a 50/50 chance of winning. That's just another suggestion instead of an award since it still keeps in the spirit of what SOTW should be.

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    Like I discussed with you, I think *you* should be the deciding factor in whose entry goes into what category.

    Or maybe allow people to say which section theyd like to be in, and if you strongly disagree, move the entry to where you feel it fits best

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    Forgot to cover that in my post. But that's what I feel about deciding what sig goes where.

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    ((I know I haven't actually posted, yet, but I've been lurking.))

    Personally, I think that the Rookie and Regular will be good with you deciding who is in each section.

    And I'd go with option 3. I have no reasons to back it up, sorry.


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    I think 3 would work best out of those, but more people would probably prefer 1.I don't really like the idea of 2, because some mods.admins probably don't give a crap about sotw, so they'd just vote for whichever, regardless of "quality". I do like Gamegeek's idea about Sig of the Month though, that may cause problems if someone wins 3 times in one month. Something else to add is that we should have a SOTW theme suggestion thread or something. But either way, I'm happy to see this still going D:

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    Yeah, but if someone wins three times in a month chances are there's something fishy probably going on like what Serated was originally concerned about.

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    I'm personally opposed to having to write out long explanations for SoTW votes. I don't feel like I should have to give detailed CnC to explain why I choose the tag I do.


    From a more objective standpoint, I'm not sure what purpose longer explanations would serve. Those making more detailed Cnc demonstrate their knowledge of tagging/design and justify why they shouldn't necessarily have to post it in the first place. All this really shows you is who does not have strong Cnc capabilities; and since voting is open to everyone, not just regulars, (at least in model 1 for instance) you can't hold that against them.

    Best of luck working this out Serated

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    My idea wasn't for long ones in the regular SOTW but the rookie one for reasons I stated above. For the regular one I think people can at least afford two to three sentences for the one they picked that way you don't get things like, number 1 with no explanation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    My idea wasn't for long ones in the regular SOTW but the rookie one for reasons I stated above. For the regular one I think people can at least afford two to three sentences for the one they picked that way you don't get things like, number 1 with no explanation.
    I was actually referring directly to Serated's purposed models
    Model 1 specifically.

    I'm not opposed to making a brief comment about the tag I'm voting for like - "Composition is very well done" - but I don't want to feel obligated to post up a full Cnc.
    That's just me though.
    Since voting can include such a wide range of "Graphics Skill Levels" maybe detailed explanations could prove helpful. However, those who post opinions from the lower end of that range have a vote that's just as valid. What are you going to do, look at their reasoning and say "No. Your preference is wrong."?
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    #3 sounds awright, and imo you dont need a flashy reward thingiemabob, at tops, just a miniature icon of some-sort displaying which sotw's you've won is enough ^.^{sort of like what serated has underneath his signature =)}

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    I personally like all the options, but they are more or less of my own selection because I work with each of them.

    The first option is extremely easy for me, because I can write out an entire page worth of critique information if necessary in about 5 minutes. Something simple like 'the composition is good' doesnt make much sense, because if your voting for a signature then CLEARLY the composition is good to you. I mean, why would you vote for a signature if the composition wasnt good for you? I really never liked those single sentence reasons that people chose which to vote for it, because they all looked the same to me. Some votes were only like 6 words long, so I had to scrutinize them a bit more than a more well rounded vote.


    I like the 2nd options because it not only allows me to enter at my own leisure, it also allows me to participate a bit more. I typically never vote in the SOTW because I think it would bias my judgment because I knew who entered. But if I shared that information around with judges (trustworthy ones) then it probably wouldnt be that hard to come to a consensus on which tag is clearly dominant over the rest.

    The 3rd option, the hybrid one, I like because it retains the same basic mantra of the SOTW, while adding a new spin on things. Where even if a person does win out of pure luck of the draw with a poorly made tag, then they will have to go through the annoyance of seeing what tag is actually considered of better quality by an audience of people who have been doing graphics for quite some time. So even if the same problem does continue in the sense that a poorly made tag wins over a stronger one, then the judges will be there to show which tag has done a better job with the given parameters.

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    Funny to say this, but I've noticed it once or twice. When I vote and I see the one who won, I'm like: "What? No way. That's not even possible."

    I hope you find a way to solve this. I'd like to join again, one day.
    Not everything is black and white like that.

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