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    do you believe that revenge is good thing?in any situation....or do you believe it's not?

    honestly i think revenge brings you down a cycle witch leads to nothing but heartache because revenge just leads to more revenge, if you get revenge against someone one of there people gets revenge against you than one of your people gets revenge against them.


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    ... leaves the whole world blind.

    Revenge is pointless and irrational.

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    Revenge is a hostile reaction built off of the initial form of aggression. Once a person becomes victimized from that aggression, sometimes, they may harbor the urge for what they feel can be considered "justice". Hate will eventually lead to more hate and so forth and the snowball effect will take place. Then, when you least expect it, someone gets killed because of the harbored hate and malice. This is only what I see from the topic. I don't know about anyone else's view.

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    I don't worry about it too much. In a parallel universe, the one(s) who wronged me got theirs, so I need not have to do anything.

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    Some things can not go unpunished

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    Not everything we do is rational, nor are all rational ideas free of emotion.

    While love may not be rational, it's an essential part of everyday life and an emotional state we pursue.

    Revenge and hate aren't much different, but still part of us and who we are, and wanting to reason such impulses away to serve some invisible moral dogma of science/reason isn't in itself a lot more reasonable than revenge.

    Of course, revenge for every little thing or imagined wrongdoing would be pretty much nothing but anger management issues, though the other extreme isn't in itself a goal either. There's got to be a line drawn and once you cross it, you get kerpawnt in the FACE. If not, who cares about said line?
    Human relations and sanctions 101, really.

    So go for the golden middle folks. Forgive the foolish and the ignorant, but rain retribution on the heads of the heretic and their heresy.


    The rewards of tolerance are treachery and betrayal.

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    ^^^^dam


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    Sometimes revenge is justice, and sometimes it is not. Sometimes it's merely the only acceptable form of justice to the person taking the revenge.

    For example, think of the father of a girl who'd been raped and murdered. Morally, I'd say he is right to seek revenge, to destroy the person who destroyed his daughter. The justice system does not always work.

    However, what people who talk about getting revenge don't realize is that while their acts may be justifiable, they are also committing a crime and therefore must be punished. In addition, even though they may have hated their victim with every fiber of their being, most people are not capable of remorseless killing. There's always a price to be paid.

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    No.

    I think like i've said in a similar thread (in my personal belief) that living well is the best revenge.

    Also, depending on your way of viewing the world and it's events, taking revenge against someone who has wronged you in someway - even if your feelings are understandable at the time - will usually, always have a way of coming back to bite you. (This can also be considered "Karma" if you want to see it that way, I guess.)

    Either way, revenge is a waste of energy, and not usually worth it.
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    Revenge is a pointless act that most often only serves to portray one's incompetence in dealing with their own pain and suffering. No one can ever carry out an act of revenge is that truly in the best interests of someone else rather than satisfying their own desires.
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    I agree, revenge is pointless and will only bring more bloodshed. Revenge was never my "thing"...to messy.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra Commander View Post
    Sometimes revenge is justice, and sometimes it is not. Sometimes it's merely the only acceptable form of justice to the person taking the revenge.

    For example, think of the father of a girl who'd been raped and murdered. Morally, I'd say he is right to seek revenge, to destroy the person who destroyed his daughter. The justice system does not always work.

    However, what people who talk about getting revenge don't realize is that while their acts may be justifiable, they are also committing a crime and therefore must be punished. In addition, even though they may have hated their victim with every fiber of their being, most people are not capable of remorseless killing. There's always a price to be paid.
    Wow, that kinda reminds me of The Lovely Bones. But hey...
     
    the dude gets whats coming to him in the end.

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    I haven't seen that, I was just using the stereotype thing that all fathers say when they read about someone else's child in the news. "Man, if that was my kid he did that to, I'd..." and so on. I considered reading the book...eventually.

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    It depends for me.
    For something so silly, I wont take revenge.
    For something so drastic, I'd prefer justice in a professional way.
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    I sell justice, $20,000 a head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra Commander View Post
    I sell justice, $20,000 a head.
    If you can execute this within 48 hours very clean as possible then yes, yes it can happen.
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    Regevnge is something that makes life more interesting, at times. But yes, it is utterly pointless and I don't approve it.
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    Revenge is like trying to fight hatred with hatred. Doesn't make sense to me but I think it is a bad thing.

    Now in MW2 terms, it is a good thing, if you know what I'm talking about.

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    ^^^yes i do, and revenge must always be carried out in MW,if someone kills me thats the first person i'm looking to kill when i respawn.


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    Once you get Vengeance,there is really no reason for you to live anymore(If it's on your mind all the time).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra Commander View Post
    For example, think of the father of a girl who'd been raped and murdered. Morally, I'd say he is right to seek revenge, to destroy the person who destroyed his daughter. The justice system does not always work.
    To what end? This won't bring the girl back, and will only serve to make the father every bit as reprehensible as the murderer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    To what end? This won't bring the girl back, and will only serve to make the father every bit as reprehensible as the murderer.
    That's assuming it's done to bring back said girl, and I seriously doubt that revenge was ever based on the assumption that carrying out an act of vengeance would somehow reverse time and matter to a state prior to whatever act it was that caused this feeling in the first place.

    Most of the time it's just to sate anger and the feeling of revenge, not to fit reason or logic into it, when reason and logic already failed in whomever it was that wronged them in the first place.

    "If he can hurt me despite the lack of reasoning to do so, so can I hurt him."
    (And I wouldn't consider the father to be reprehensible for carrying out his revenge, I doubt most would that sympathize with him. Which should be everyone, imho. The only issue is the technicality of Law prohibiting him from carrying out murder, not whether or not people would hold it against him.)

    Expecting a "reasonable" high ground isn't logical in itself in any other way than following the dictations of whatever moral basis it is that holds such highest. And morals, last time I checked, were often based upon whatever one -felt- was right just as much as one was able to "logically" -deduce- was right.

    While I'd love for us all to be Vulcans, we're not.

    And once we've all gotten to the place that we no longer carry out such atrocious acts that cause people to retaliate in acts of revenge, then we can put it onto the purely logical basis, I'd say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gero50 View Post
    It is truly a bad thing because all you're trying t do in it is get back at someone. It means you sink to their level and become no better then them. Plus it can be down right mean.
    So you're saying that a father whacking the murder-rapist of his daughter is equal to a murder-rapist?


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    So for both CC & Eris' point, IMO if some guy rapes a girl...should we raped the attacker back? @_@

    Ugh, I don't think I'd be ready for that just yet.
    So I guess the justice system don't always work for this.
    The proper justice (varies from country to country) is jailing that
    person and/or sentencing to death. This is without possibility
    of a parole.
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    Revenge is a good thing. Well you could disagree with me, but I'm staying with my point of view.
    Let's just say someone does something awful to you and you say:"I forgive you" and then you wait until next time it happens? If you don't teach that person a lesson that the thing he did was not tolerated and you do not do something to him in return(it doesn't have to be the same thing), that person would just keep doing bad things and they'll pile up inside you. You must let your anger out in the form of revenge. It's not like you're going to kill him/her or anything...
    It is stupid to be afraid to die, but the most stupid thing is to be afraid to live.

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