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    Default Anime or not?

    can someone tell me if the last airbender is considered an anime or cartoon?
    i was reading somewhere on the internett that someone said it was a cartoon, but IMO it seems like a anime, and what is it that makes it cartoon and not a anime?

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    I heard American made Anime,though I'm not completely sure.

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    Anime = Cartoon.

    "Anime" is the word used by the Japanese do describe all things that are animated. Therefore anything that is animated is anime.

    Here in the West we've altered the use of "anime" to specifically refer to Japanese cartoons.


    So it depends on whether you want to use the original Japanese definition of anime, or the altered Western definition.


    As far as I'm concerned, it's an anime.

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    If you mean 'anime' as in Bleach or Naruto(hate), then no, I don't consider it an anime at all.

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    "Anime" outside of Japan is just Japanese cartoons. In Japan all cartoons are called anime. Avatar is not an anime. Just because it has inspired by anime themes does not make it anime. People who say it is an anime are usually the same people who think that they too can create an anime one day. They can't.

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    i think Gjallarhorn is right so i'l just call it an anime

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    It's not an anime and should not be called one unless you ARE Japanese. Japanese call all cartoons "anime". An American calling a cartoon not made in Japan "anime" is like calling chicken noodle soup "ramen" or calling American soda "ramune". It's just.........yeah, that's not what it is.

    So I have to disagree with Gjallarhorn. Look dude, if someone is asking if Avatar is anime, what they MEAN to ask is "Was Avatar made in Japan?"
    The correct answer is "no".
    Don't confuse people!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 小美ドクロchan View Post
    It's not an anime and should not be called one unless you ARE Japanese. Japanese call all cartoons "anime". An American calling a cartoon not made in Japan "anime" is like calling chicken noodle soup "ramen" or calling American soda "ramune". It's just.........yeah, that's not what it is.

    So I have to disagree with Gjallarhorn. Look dude, if someone is asking if Avatar is anime, what they MEAN to ask is "Was Avatar made in Japan?"
    The correct answer is "no".
    Don't confuse people!

    "Anime" has nothing to do with whether or not it's made in Japan. That's simply what the Japanese call all animation, no matter where it is from. They call Dragonball "anime", and they also call The Lion King "anime".

    Therein, saying anime is synonymous with saying cartoon. Same thing, different word.

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    It carries some major themes and mottifs of Japanese animation. This is enough. This someone CAN do. Regardless of where they are from. In fact the number of people who have is growing. Teen Titans was another American production with themes inspired by the styles and mottifs commonly associated with Japanese Animation. I actually say Japanese Animation more frequently than I say anime. Thats what I do. Not telling anyone else to. Its not even a soap box, it just comes naturally for me to say that because I discuss animation from a lot of different countries. (Most recently in fact I've been viewing work from the Estonian Animation Festival in Tallinn. They had a pretty funny one about two American FBI agents who didn't know where Estonia was.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gjallarhorn View Post
    "Anime" has nothing to do with whether or not it's made in Japan. That's simply what the Japanese call all animation, no matter where it is from. They call Dragonball "anime", and they also call The Lion King "anime".

    Therein, saying anime is synonymous with saying cartoon. Same thing, different word.
    And likewise, we in America use "pissed" to describe someone who is angry and "series finale" to mean the final episode of a TV series, therefore the UK must use those words exactly like that. Oh wait no, those words mean something different there and it's not our business to tell them otherwise.

    Come on man, 99.99999% of people in America use "anime" to describe Japanese cartoons. You can get on your hill and scream "ignorance!" to the masses (which would include the Avatar creators themselves, BTW, since they've flat out called Avatar anime-inspiried using the western "definition") but nobody cares. As far as we're concerned, Avatar is not an anime, and it's not anyone's right to demand we use a word in a certain way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doom85 View Post
    And likewise, we in America use "pissed" to describe someone who is angry and "series finale" to mean the final episode of a TV series, therefore the UK must use those words exactly like that. Oh wait no, those words mean something different there and it's not our business to tell them otherwise.

    Come on man, 99.99999% of people in America use "anime" to describe Japanese cartoons. You can get on your hill and scream "ignorance!" to the masses (which would include the Avatar creators themselves, BTW, since they've flat out called Avatar anime-inspiried using the western "definition") but nobody cares. As far as we're concerned, Avatar is not an anime, and it's not anyone's right to demand we use a word in a certain way.
    For real!! This is what I tried to point out! When a person is asking if a show is anime or not, they want to know if the Japanese made it!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gjallarhorn View Post
    "Anime" has nothing to do with whether or not it's made in Japan. That's simply what the Japanese call all animation, no matter where it is from. They call Dragonball "anime", and they also call The Lion King "anime".

    Therein, saying anime is synonymous with saying cartoon. Same thing, different word.
    Really, that is interesting though it makes perfect sense. So a lot of us have been using the term anime incorrectly. So I guss it dose not mater what you call this then.
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    Actually all of us have. Its a word of foreign origin used differently here than in its home country. It isn't the first example. See Kindergarten, sushi, and a bunch of other words. I don't get upset with people calling it anime if its not made in Japan. I don't get upset when they use anime to refer to all cartoons. I do get upset when people make such a big deal over such a really insignificant issue.

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    If you want to call it Anime then go for it
    American-Anime or Anime-based/inspired are other terms I have heard to describe it

    Personally I think it is an anime
    Anime is a distict style and this one fits

    Who really cares if it is from Japan or not really
    Just call it how you see it

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    Personally I think it is an anime
    Anime is a distict style and this one fits
    There is no such thing as an anime style. Robot Carnival is an anime and it doesn't look like what you would associate with anime.

    Doom85 has probably made the most reasonable post so far on this subject.

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    Come on man, 99.99999% of people in America use "anime" to describe Japanese cartoons. You can get on your hill and scream "ignorance!" to the masses (which would include the Avatar creators themselves, BTW, since they've flat out called Avatar anime-inspiried using the western "definition") but nobody cares. As far as we're concerned, Avatar is not an anime, and it's not anyone's right to demand we use a word in a certain way.
    Good lord, he's just telling you the implications and what fits the requirments of being dubbed 'anime', he's right even if the majority of people don't know they're wrong.

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    I hardly think that a difference in jargon created by a subculture (which it has, because as we've discussed we aren't using the word the same as it is used in its mother tongue) is the equivalent to playing with venomous snakes. I fail to see how calling any piece of animation by any specific categorization tool lowers your ability to appreciate the work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MangaFanGuy View Post

    Who really cares if it is from Japan or not really
    Because that totally negates the definition?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Father View Post
    There is no such thing as an anime style. Robot Carnival is an anime and it doesn't look like what you would associate with anime.
    Looks aren't everything
    Anime has a style as different from the most western style cartoons

    Avatar fits more with what we would call Anime
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    Because that totally negates the definition?
    Dictionary definitions of "Anime"
    –noun
    a Japanese style of motion-picture animation, characterized by highly stylized, colorful art, futuristic settings, violence, and sexuality.

    -anime

    Japanese for "animation," a term that seems to have arisen in the 1970s, apparently based on Fr. l'anim, from the same root as animate. Manga (q.v.) is Japanese for "comic book, graphic novel," but anime largely are based on manga and until 1970s, anime were known in Japan as manga eiga or "TV manga." The two terms are somewhat confused in Eng


    n. A style of animation developed in Japan, characterized by stylized colorful art and often adult themes.


    They call it a style developed in Japan but nothing more
    nowhere do they say that anime are ONLY from japan

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    They call it a style developed in Japan but nothing more
    nowhere do they say that anime are ONLY from japan
    Okay, let's clear that up then.

    Going by the DEFINITION and not TRANSLATION, only anime are from Japan. When you are in a country that is NOT Japan, you call animation from America and other countries "cartoons" and animation from Japan "anime". It seriously depends on where you live for what the correct term would be.

    The Japanese themselves do not really distinguish between their anime and animation from other countries. It's all the same to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 小美ドクロchan View Post
    The Japanese themselves do not really distinguish between their anime and animation from other countries. It's all the same to them.

    Uh...was that not my point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Father View Post
    "Anime" outside of Japan is just Japanese cartoons. In Japan all cartoons are called anime. Avatar is not an anime. Just because it has inspired by anime themes does not make it anime. People who say it is an anime are usually the same people who think that they too can create an anime one day. They can't.
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    The others = cartoon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 小美ドクロchan View Post
    Okay, let's clear that up then.

    Going by the DEFINITION and not TRANSLATION, only anime are from Japan. When you are in a country that is NOT Japan, you call animation from America and other countries "cartoons" and animation from Japan "anime". It seriously depends on where you live for what the correct term would be.

    The Japanese themselves do not really distinguish between their anime and animation from other countries. It's all the same to them.
    By Definition anime is not simply Japanese (As the dictionary defines)
    Again that simply revolves back to the original point of being able to call it what you want
    If you want to call it anime you are not wrong
    if you don't then well ....simply don't but don't try to say that anyones contrary position is correct/wrong

    What other people call or consider anime it is irrelevant to what you call it in this regard as the definition of anime clearly allows you to define Avatar as an anime if you so choose

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    It's funny, 'cause there are some anime shows/movies that an anime fan would never have guessed were animated by Chinese or Koreans.
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    Anime is just a colloquial term for cartoons which usually refers to Japanese cartoons.

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